Wow we are so lucky to have a channel like Ed's that puts so much effort into the content and getting to the bottom of the stories people are circulating instead of repeating what everybody else is saying. Great and informative video!
Love that you managed to speak to the owner of those buildings and what a nice genuine sounding person he is, clearly has the interests of the community on his mind, great video 👍
Well done Eddie for getting some insight about redeveloping the East Stand. I'm glad this subject is a passion of yours. We get to know stuff we otherwise wouldn't hear about.
I’m a Liverpool fan of 54 years so not a glory supporter I’m from the north east also , however I’ve always taken a very big interest in Newcastle and I’m so so glad they are on the up it’s amazing, but my main reason for commenting is your Channel is great I will subscribe as your a very honest and straight talking man and that appeals to a lot of people including me so good luck for your future as you’ve said your doing this full time so good luck on your page and for your team , take care
@@Thaitanium73 true, but he was willing to do it to support the club if it would outweigh the benifets for the whole city, it's not just about profit, he's a supporter
On the subject of light for Leazes Terrace, I can’t see that being much of an issue as the north half of the terrace is already overlooked by the Leazes End, and also at 9.40 on the video the trees are nearly up to the windows anyway.
Great interview. Very interesting. No idea what they will have planned but exciting to see what the architects come up with. The club surprised people by selecting the East Stand over the Gallowgate for expansion first. In some ways it seems more difficult as you pointed out the issues in your video. Wonder if their vision of the East Stand redevelopment will tie in with a redevelopment of the Gallowgate. Looking forward to your future videos of this.
Great video and even better with a way forward for ground expansion in the future. Exciting times being a toon fan, now to win something to go with it all. Onwards and upwards and HWTL.
I have a grade 2 listed house in the city and have recently had the pleasure of trying to gain heritage and council approval to install a bathroom. There is more chance of platting soot than those houses being pulled down. The lefties will see to that alongside the commercial prevention team of Newcastle Council!!! Great interview Eddy.
Hi Andrew, I can appreciate your frustrations lol. Just to clarify some misunderstandings. I’m not professing that I want to see them pulled down but a grade II listed buildings can be pulled down if it serves some wider economic benefit. This decision is made by a committee involving building owner, in conjunction with England Heritage and the local council. Each situation would be taken on its own merits of course 👍🏻
Great video Eddie, always give alot of great information and put in alot if wirk to videos, good to hear from owner of buildings. Hope they can extend, really dont want a new stadium, st james partk such a unique special stadium
What a way to enjoy my breakfast with Eddie Hope and Tyneside Life, what a truly great vid on a subject we are all totally invested in. Pretty sure you nailed it once again and in 4 or 5 years we can look back and say, well Tyneside Life said exactly this years ago. Will take some time and we'd all like to see it happen today but what a future!!! Our owners will find a way.
Fascinating interview,got right to the heart of things club and city,as far as proposed expansion is concerned! I personally love the Leazes Terrace buildings,I'd hate to see anything happen to them! Kash seems a realist,Toon fan and developer rolled into one,let's hope everyone ends up happy with the plans that'll be put forward!!
Great video, and thanks Kath for your considered thoughts. There is one problem with moving the stadium back. It’s to do with sight line and what is known as the C Value. The C Value is the vertical distance between your line of sight and the eyes of the person in front. This means that the angle of seating has to allow everyone in the stands to be able to see the closest touch line (in football). If the angle is too shallow, as was the problem when West Ham got a taxpayer funded stadium for virtually nothing, you have to rebuild. The idea is to prevent fans from standing up to see the touch line. Thus us from a safety point of view. There are a number of factors used in the calculation: the vertical height between the eye and the point of focus, the horizontal distance between the eye and the point of focus, the seating step height and the seating step width. Moving the stadium backwards MIGHT alter the C Value for both sides of the pitch, depending how it’s done. The best way is to lower the pitch, since it’s easier to increase the seat height to increase the rake. Lowering the pitch is what I’d recommend, though it’s something that will affect the whole stadium’s ability to stage matches, and may need metro re-routing.
Ya alreet. Brilliant interview this getting to speak to the owner of the buildings back of leazers it just gives us abit of a craic as far as what's ganna happen with the extension. Cheers Eddy 🤝
Great video Ed love the channel, NUFC is a great club fantastic fans always enjoyed visiting St James. I’m an evertonian even though we are soon getting a big new stadium on the docks i’m gonna miss Goodison Park even with its faults 😂.
He's correct in that natural daylight has always been the problem. To be more specific, it is shadow casting by the stand that is the problem. The height of the East Stand is determined by the shadow cast in worst case scenario ie winter.
Got to say I'm very impressed by your journalistic skills here. Interesting topic to begin with, interesting interviewee, all the right questions asked and you patiently waited for him to speak finished. This was really interesting and very informative.
@@TynesideLife yeah shame though eddy.. but there is definitely enough space to move back if you half the road 🤔 aslong as they move the other building..
I’ve never said that. All my videos are on public record. In addition, I’ve talked about East Stand rebuilds several times in my videos and discuss it on my guided tours. If you’re on here just to be a fanny, I can block you or you can engage in an intelligent conversation. Your call 👍🏻
Some good points raised Ed, this man clearly has a nice healthy bank balance already and obviously way back had a vision himself that one day this would happen and behind his own facade I bet he’s clapping his hands “sold to the highest bidder” with a nice old rub of the hands. As much as I’m all for expansion let’s not forget about the H word that keeps popping up with regards to our roots and “H”eritage of the city. Architects have clever engineering capabilities these days but it always comes at a price and not always monetarily. It will be interesting to see future videos and updates about the feasibility studies and options available. It’s a tough call to make and easy to get lost off with the excitement of future development but on the flip side not to let go of what we could loose in the surrounding area if plans were to come to full fruition.
Hi Eddy, I'm a massive fan of preserving historical buildings, but, these days primarily, if you asked anybody not from the North East, one word to associate with Newcastle it would be United, or Toon, or Football. Maybe Brown Ale would come close, but unfortunately the industries that built the area are a thing of the past. So, pros and cons, I kind of agree with your guest, even though the opportunity cost is losing such wonderful buildings.
I imagine in the near future possibly 10 years time a decision will be made that could effect most of the city centre business perminantly or effect a few grade listed buildings and residents. Finding a new site for a super stadium away from the city centre would be easy but what wont be easy is fans accepting it but with revenue being needed to compete where fans want us to compete a tipping point will come. It will be either stay and hold back investment in the club or move and compete for the biggest and best. Arsenal had to make that choice, west ham, Everton man city, liverpool apparently are. As things stand now it's no big deal staying put but in time the waiting list will grow and grow and grow and the potential revenue made by moving will force the councils hand, preserve the buildings or loose incomprehensible amounts of trade for the city centre with a relocation.
One important thing you’re overlooking. It’s not up to the owners anymore whether they can decide to relocate or not. It’s now FA Law to consult with fans and if the majority of fans want to stay, that’s what’s happening. It’s all to do with the protection of Club Heritage Assets and fans having the deciding vote on things like relocation, shirt colours and club names 👍🏻
SJP has the potential to expand way beyond the Emirates, Bramley-Moore Dock, Spurs etc. They've all underestimated the growth of football. In the timescale you're talking SJP may well already be a 70k stadium. Won't be cheap and maybe short of what we need but coming with the absolute best location on the planet for football fans within our culture. Bigger than everywhere in the Prem but Old Trafford, on par with Dortmond and Bayern and atleast as big as the Italians and 10k less than The Bernabeu. There's no right or wrong but this is my take.
@@TynesideLife yes but when put to a vote where the owners give the fans a choice move and compete at the pinnacle of football or stay and be held back by revenue not being generated so they can invest what's needed in compliance with ever stricter ffp rules and regs. It wont belong before bigger restrictions are put on spending. Fans can't have it both ways a choice will need to be made and with a waiting list of 20,000+ or more people waiting to get tickets that vote is unlikely to go the way people with season tickets want it to go. Darren Eels is tasked with growing the clubs profile to increase revenues, that comes from sponsorships and fans, what fans are ok never been able to see their club? None. Darren Eels has 1 hand tied behind his back and everyone knows it. We all know what's coming eventually, fans of other clubs that have moved felt the same. The council will be forced eventually to cripple city centre business's or allow the go ahead of a meaningful expansion regardless of listed buildings or not. I'm sure the city centre match day revenue is far more important to thousands of businesses than a building. It wont happen yet but in the future its certain.
@@v4vendetta237 I’m fully convinced that fans will want to stay. Staying has no correlation with being held back. Chelsea only has 42K. The owners have pledged to stay and they’re currently investing in real estate to fulfill that pledge. There’s also the small matter of no land that would be available in several years time. I know you’re desperate to believe that we’ll move but it’s the most unlikely of scenario us bud
@@TynesideLife Chelsea's fan base is tiny compared to Newcastle and their revenue has grown in accordance with the league Newcastleunder Ashley stagnated it's not a fair comparison. I'm not at all desperate for Newcastle to move I'm desperate for them to stay but my eyes are wide open and I see a scenario on the horizon that can't be escaped. You are clever man that has done in depth vids on a lot of subjects including football finance if I'm not mistaken. The premier league and uefa are tightening spending in accordance to a percentage of revenues generated, it will hit all big spending clubs hard over the next few seasons. How does a fan balance wanting the club to invest with wanting to remain in a stadium that wont generate enough revenue to compete at the pinnacle of football? Fans can't have it all. Either the council will allow the development of st James's park at the cost of a building to preserve the city's income generated on matchdays which will become more frequent due to us competing in European competitions or they will deny the request which will set in motion events which disgruntled fans who have never been able to watch their team live will vote to move. 52k used to be big but football is growing exponentially and in 10 years time we wont be able to compete. The council will be forced into allowing the full extension to the stadium, its unavoidable in the future, because the alternative would destroy so many businesses in the city.
St James Park should be demolished and rebuilt into a brand new one on the same site like the Tottenham Stadium. This piecemeal expansion won't do any good. There needs to be a grand plan with huge capacity and state-of-the-art facilities. Just play at Sunderland for a year or two to get a New-castle!
It’s that last sentence that brings that whole idea crashing down I’m afraid. It’s like expecting Rangers fans to play at Celtic Park for two years, or vice versa. I don’t even know where to begin on dismantling that. There’s just be nowhere for the club to play and that’s why the club will do what it takes to expand modestly where they can. I’ve wrote an in-depth article on the subject if you’re interested 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife for a year, maybe two at most why not? Looks like Chelsea will rebuild Stanford Bridge from the ground up, increase capacity to 60,000 with modern, state-of-the-art facilities for the fans. Be a grown-up Newcastle fans be ambitious set your sights on Real Madrid Barcelona not woeful Sunderland
There is hope yay :) On another topic... Yesterday I bought a travel to Newcastle and a ticket to the game against Brentford, so finally I'm going to experience a home game. Many years ago went to an away game against Chelsea (we lost 1-2). But I have a question... Am I allowed to bring a fullframe camera with an wide-to-mid range zoom lense (24-120mm lense)? What are the rules? When I was at the game at Standford Bridge a guard told me to pack it away. I had a 70-200mm lense back then.
Hi Tony. Well done on getting a ticket. There are rules on the club website and technically, you’re not allowed to film inside the stadium. Whether you choose to ignore that will be a personal decision 👍🏻
I remember the first time I ever saw the stadium with my own eyes it was how I imagine seeing God would feel so I look forward to seeing what the owners do. Can't believe it's not far off 2 years since they took over its gone so fast.
@TynesideLife St James' Terrace or Leazes Terrace. I have heard the club have purchased the old barker and stonehouse furniture store showroom. Do you know anything about that?
I think they will build from the inside out, i.e., building materials and parts of the stand on the pitch and have a crane on the pitch so it doesn't disrupt the listed buildings
I have not been able to get a season ticket for years, if this guy sells his properties and I get a season ticket from the new stadium, then this man deserves a statue next to Shearer! Thanks Ed for doing this video, you content is excellent.
Good morning Eddie,....another fabulous, insightful video,....thankyou. Getting to meet the lovely owner of those protected buildings on Leazes terrace. But your conversation inspired an idea, to take away some of the challenges presented by development of the East stand. First,....I believe development of the ground is unlikely to progress unless a solution to the East stand can be found, its pivotal to the design of the Gallowgate stad and Strawberry place. Focus on the East stand is unlikely to be an indication of no future development of the Gallowgate stand. My idea,......turn this problem into a opportunity using the precedent already set with Strawberry place. NUFC should buy the estate adjacent to the East stand and turn it into a hotel, thereby protecting the beautiful architecture and leveraging it to the benefit of the club and the city. That idea may give greater freedom to the architects to develop the East stand. What do you think? PennyXxx
Hi Penny, great ideas and points and I like the hotel idea! The only thing I’d caution it with is that it’s not up to the owners what can happen to the building or it’s relationship with the East Stand, it’s down to the Secretary of State for Culture, in partnership with Heritage England and the council. This decision will be based on what’s best for the historical preservation of England and Newcastle. If they can get around that, I think it’s great!
Would something like a network of tubular skylights from the top of the east stand down to in front of the houses help with the 'natural light' requirement, or would that be regarded as artificial lighting?
From a construction background, unless the buildings behind are purchased and demolished, which seems highly unlikely due to listed building status, then it seem any development costs are going to huge in relation to the limited amount of seats being added in any construction taking place on that particular stand. The end behind the goal (you guys will know the name better than me) looks the better option with the land behind being free of existing buildings. Isn't there an underground line near there though? As a stadium geek i love the shots of the back of the existing stand though, proper old school concrete columns i'm guessing from the 70s or 80s? Hope there is some positive news from the study, St James like other iconic grounds has something the new grounds just can't buy and that's history. Impossible to recreate the inner city working class background of stadiums like Highbury, Upton Park and the like, you just end up with identikit soulless bowls.
The beauty is that infrastructure investment doesn’t contribute towards FFP, yet increased revenue from seat sales would help to improve the club revenue.
@@TynesideLife Yeah I've watched them all mate, been fascinating watching the club rise from the curse of Ashley to where it is now. The stadium is a tough one, the amount needed to redevelop existing compared to a full new rebuild usually sees a team move elsewhere due to cost v reward. But with St James having significant historical value and a lot of existing structure still being comparatively young it makes the choice between developing and moving. A bit similar to old Trafford, when you walk into these stadiums you can smell the history, the emotional ties only truly understood by proper fans
@@bspark119 I agree but a big factor is outlay and investment return. No point spending £80/100 million if you can only add a few thousand seats. Doesn't make business sense
Of course the owner has his own agenda. But he´s right that history is important. If they can make a mix of old and new together. That would be fantastic. Keep on going with your great videos.
Love the idea of a fanzone, but how do we think it would work? Surely they're not allowed to show the game live due to TV rights restrictions? Would they just broadcast the commentary?
Id recommend you watch my video on it as I know it’s very accurate. You need to think much, much bigger Mark and this Fanzone isn’t about screening the match
@@TynesideLife I'll go have a look now. Love your content and saw you filming near Bobby's statue on the Monday of the Leicester game. Wanted to say hello but didn't want to interrupt 😂
I would have thought that since they are building a new arena next to the sage, the site the metro arena is on would be a good site for a new football stadium if they can't expand St James'
Yes Eddie, it's a double edged sword really, Cash seems up for the "cash", fair play, the fella put his money down to purchase that building, it's a classy building, but if its got to go then so be it, the students will get very good re housing options for sure. And of course concerning Leases Terrace, that's a phenomenal piece of architecture, that must remain for me, and as the fella said where there's a will there's a way, the very best architects will be brought in to sort it. Imo, we WILL see that expansion to the east stand.
Amazingly just seen another vlog ,were they can increase capacity by 13,000 ,i think you mentioned a while ago that it would be hard ,to increase capacity by 6,000 so these new numbers are amazing bringing ,capacity to 65,000 with like you say new ways engineers with new stronger materials ,will be able to bring this to life .
Hi Mick. I’ve never said that. In videos and on my guided tours I’ve expressed the opinion that 60-62K is the realistic optimised capacity increase. Around 8-10K more than it is now. An additional tier on the Gallowgate with one corner extended would increase capacity to around 59/60k. I believe a rebuild of the East Stand can bring a small increase but to find an additional 6K or so by expansion of the East stand needs some serious explanation. There is currently a feasibility study in progress that will take around a year to complete, so anyone asserting a 13K increase is pure imagination at this stage. It sounds like some click bait Mick without any serious research 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife yeah fair enough mate I'm just old school footy lad ,hoping for the best for our ,most historic and world famous clubs were the game started ,but not as loved by our leaders and the establishment,hope they manage to do this great upgrade .
@@mickharrison9004 I’m clearly not an expert but I regularly consult with experts in their field so I can piece together a fairly realistic picture of the likely outcome. But of course, nobody really knows, not even the owners at this stage. What I don’t do is jump on a Chronicle article, or a throw away comment and create a video about it. It’s important to point out as well that there’s a huge difference between maximising capacity and optimising capacity. I know the club are looking to optimising the capacity by striking the balance between getting enough fans inside but also exploiting the commercial opportunities through hospitality etc. All of this will take several years to unfold but if you’re asking, I wouldn’t expect more than 62K when it’s all finished 👍🏻
the only opportunities to build are the gallowgate end and gallowgate corners east and west . and the east stand and east stand corner . there would be no sense in building any higher on anywhere else . as long as is it for fans and not corporate boxes .
Fantastic video Eddy, can't get much better than interviewing the man who owns the building and its very encouraging that he is all for working with Newcastle United to find a solution that suits everyone. Exciting times, I'm sure the council will be just as keen to benefit the city these days. Money talks and this will have enormous benefits to the economy. 👍🖤🤍
Wow we are so lucky to have a channel like Ed's that puts so much effort into the content and getting to the bottom of the stories people are circulating instead of repeating what everybody else is saying. Great and informative video!
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It’s wonderful and promising that this guy owns the buildings. He seems very onboard with a possible stadium expansion. Fantastic video!
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season ticket for life for this fella if he sells up haha
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Love that you managed to speak to the owner of those buildings and what a nice genuine sounding person he is, clearly has the interests of the community on his mind, great video 👍
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Well done Eddie for getting some insight about redeveloping the East Stand. I'm glad this subject is a passion of yours. We get to know stuff we otherwise wouldn't hear about.
Thank you. I take a lot of pride in putting in the work to learn about this 👍🏻
Happy for Newcastle utd fans. You guys deserve this !
I’m a Liverpool fan of 54 years so not a glory supporter I’m from the north east also , however I’ve always taken a very big interest in Newcastle and I’m so so glad they are on the up it’s amazing, but my main reason for commenting is your Channel is great I will subscribe as your a very honest and straight talking man and that appeals to a lot of people including me so good luck for your future as you’ve said your doing this full time so good luck on your page and for your team , take care
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I honestly thought he was going to say he wouldn't sell his building! .....My favourite toon channel, thanks for the videos Eddie
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He bought the building to make money, of course he'd sell them for the right amount of profit.
@@Thaitanium73 true, but he was willing to do it to support the club if it would outweigh the benifets for the whole city, it's not just about profit, he's a supporter
@@MealsBeast But let's be real. If it was going to cost him a penny, then he wouldn't.
Fantastic video Ed, very informative. Like the way you go beyond just the normal podcasts . Great stuff
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Fascinating video Eddy, well done for updating us all with this, cheers
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On the subject of light for Leazes Terrace, I can’t see that being much of an issue as the north half of the terrace is already overlooked by the Leazes End, and also at 9.40 on the video the trees are nearly up to the windows anyway.
Appreciate how you take the time to talk to those involved Ed. Great content mate
Not even watched it yet and when I saw the news that we were considering expanding the East stand I knew that you would have a good take on the plans.
Thank you. Plus I get a great interview!
Great interview. Very interesting. No idea what they will have planned but exciting to see what the architects come up with.
The club surprised people by selecting the East Stand over the Gallowgate for expansion first. In some ways it seems more difficult as you pointed out the issues in your video. Wonder if their vision of the East Stand redevelopment will tie in with a redevelopment of the Gallowgate.
Looking forward to your future videos of this.
@@r0sco_1 I’ve got an inkling that a Gallowgate expansion may be the furthest thing from their mind…
Groundbreaking video. Thanks for all you do 🙏
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Can’t wait for the expansion of set James park it will make it look so much better
Going above and beyond again 🙌 never just repeats what's in the news, always informative
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Nice one Eddy , great info as always.
Another great video with expert insight
😊😊it was great seeing you this morning ☺️
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Great video Eddie, really interesting insight
Great stuff as always eddie mate cant wait for this and the fanzone 👍
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Great video. Thank you!
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What a fantastic man 👍 he deserves a season tickets he will be rolling in cash soon 😂 👍👍👍👍👍cheers eddy great video again 👍👍👍👍👍
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Cracking video Eddie, interesting to get an insight into the listed building situation 👍
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Fantastic video pal. Thanks for the insights of what may happen 👍
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Great video and even better with a way forward for ground expansion in the future. Exciting times being a toon fan, now to win something to go with it all. Onwards and upwards and HWTL.
I have a grade 2 listed house in the city and have recently had the pleasure of trying to gain heritage and council approval to install a bathroom. There is more chance of platting soot than those houses being pulled down. The lefties will see to that alongside the commercial prevention team of Newcastle Council!!! Great interview Eddy.
Hi Andrew, I can appreciate your frustrations lol.
Just to clarify some misunderstandings. I’m not professing that I want to see them pulled down but a grade II listed buildings can be pulled down if it serves some wider economic benefit.
This decision is made by a committee involving building owner, in conjunction with England Heritage and the local council.
Each situation would be taken on its own merits of course 👍🏻
Ya face at 5:05 when the taxi starts up 😂
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Another belter Eduardo.
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Great video Eddie, always give alot of great information and put in alot if wirk to videos, good to hear from owner of buildings. Hope they can extend, really dont want a new stadium, st james partk such a unique special stadium
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Very interesting Eddie, cheers
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Great video as ususal. Funny to see that glimse of irritation on your face at 5:00, directed towards that idling car. :)
Greatings from Norway!
😂 it was a delivery vehicle parked a few feet from me and didn’t bother to switch his engine off 😡
Great video Eddie so informative 👍
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What a way to enjoy my breakfast with Eddie Hope and Tyneside Life, what a truly great vid on a subject we are all totally invested in. Pretty sure you nailed it once again and in 4 or 5 years we can look back and say, well Tyneside Life said exactly this years ago. Will take some time and we'd all like to see it happen today but what a future!!! Our owners will find a way.
I’m commissioning you to write my book Jim 😅
Great video Eddie keep up the great work 👍
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Love the way Eddie looked up to the guy thinking a what clinic?? 😂
Very interesting discussion and talking points Eddy. Lets see what comes about in 12 month's time.👍
Whatever happens, it’s going to take a long time Graham
@@TynesideLife 5 years Eddy me thinks?
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Fascinating interview,got right to the heart of things club and city,as far as proposed expansion is concerned! I personally love the Leazes Terrace buildings,I'd hate to see anything happen to them! Kash seems a realist,Toon fan and developer rolled into one,let's hope everyone ends up happy with the plans that'll be put forward!!
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Great video, and thanks Kath for your considered thoughts. There is one problem with moving the stadium back. It’s to do with sight line and what is known as the C Value. The C Value is the vertical distance between your line of sight and the eyes of the person in front. This means that the angle of seating has to allow everyone in the stands to be able to see the closest touch line (in football). If the angle is too shallow, as was the problem when West Ham got a taxpayer funded stadium for virtually nothing, you have to rebuild. The idea is to prevent fans from standing up to see the touch line. Thus us from a safety point of view.
There are a number of factors used in the calculation: the vertical height between the eye and the point of focus, the horizontal distance between the eye and the point of focus, the seating step height and the seating step width. Moving the stadium backwards MIGHT alter the C Value for both sides of the pitch, depending how it’s done. The best way is to lower the pitch, since it’s easier to increase the seat height to increase the rake. Lowering the pitch is what I’d recommend, though it’s something that will affect the whole stadium’s ability to stage matches, and may need metro re-routing.
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Good video keep up the hard work mate
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Fantastic interesting interview Eddie! The future looks great 😀
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Eddie you are a natural another great video with a great interview.
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Perfect interview and knowledgeable vlog and interview.... top content.
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What a great insight into this whole question? Well done Eddie
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Ya alreet.
Brilliant interview this getting to speak to the owner of the buildings back of leazers it just gives us abit of a craic as far as what's ganna happen with the extension.
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Great video Ed love the channel, NUFC is a great club fantastic fans always enjoyed visiting St James. I’m an evertonian even though we are soon getting a big new stadium on the docks i’m gonna miss Goodison Park even with its faults 😂.
Cheers Neil. Good luck for the coming season 👍🏻
Great vid eddy
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He's correct in that natural daylight has always been the problem. To be more specific, it is shadow casting by the stand that is the problem. The height of the East Stand is determined by the shadow cast in worst case scenario ie winter.
Kash/ cash is coming into some serious cash soon!!
Nobody else doing vids like this, keep it up thanks .
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Got to say I'm very impressed by your journalistic skills here. Interesting topic to begin with, interesting interviewee, all the right questions asked and you patiently waited for him to speak finished. This was really interesting and very informative.
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A sensible and genuine discussion 👍👍
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Spot on video eddy. Again 👍👍. that's terrible laughing at my idea on others to move the terrace to beamish 😉😁
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@@TynesideLife yeah shame though eddy.. but there is definitely enough space to move back if you half the road 🤔 aslong as they move the other building..
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Great, insightful video, Eddy. Have you stopped saying "It's comin' up"? 😆
I was overwhelmed with excitement to get this video out and I forgot to say it 😂
And this from the bloke who screamed there was '"NO WAY IN HELL " there would be ANY expansion on the East stand.
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I’ve never said that. All my videos are on public record.
In addition, I’ve talked about East Stand rebuilds several times in my videos and discuss it on my guided tours.
If you’re on here just to be a fanny, I can block you or you can engage in an intelligent conversation. Your call 👍🏻
Mint informative video again Eddy
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It's getting older and older, you can't just leave it forever as it is, so have to try, doubt the Council will make it easy for us though.
It’s not just about the council Shaun. That’s the easy part
Some good points raised Ed, this man clearly has a nice healthy bank balance already and obviously way back had a vision himself that one day this would happen and behind his own facade I bet he’s clapping his hands “sold to the highest bidder” with a nice old rub of the hands. As much as I’m all for expansion let’s not forget about the H word that keeps popping up with regards to our roots and “H”eritage of the city. Architects have clever engineering capabilities these days but it always comes at a price and not always monetarily. It will be interesting to see future videos and updates about the feasibility studies and options available. It’s a tough call to make and easy to get lost off with the excitement of future development but on the flip side not to let go of what we could loose in the surrounding area if plans were to come to full fruition.
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This is what makes u the best eddie! Quality watch
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Keeo up the good work
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Love the channel Eddie your flying mate 👍 Get some shirts printed .
Are you referring to the one I was wearing?
I bet you could get some cracking designs done l would buy one .
Hi Eddy,
I'm a massive fan of preserving historical buildings, but, these days primarily, if you asked anybody not from the North East, one word to associate with Newcastle it would be United, or Toon, or Football.
Maybe Brown Ale would come close, but unfortunately the industries that built the area are a thing of the past.
So, pros and cons, I kind of agree with your guest, even though the opportunity cost is losing such wonderful buildings.
Aye it’s a tricky balance Jimmy although I’m certain that Leazes Tce won’t be touched 👍🏻
I imagine in the near future possibly 10 years time a decision will be made that could effect most of the city centre business perminantly or effect a few grade listed buildings and residents. Finding a new site for a super stadium away from the city centre would be easy but what wont be easy is fans accepting it but with revenue being needed to compete where fans want us to compete a tipping point will come. It will be either stay and hold back investment in the club or move and compete for the biggest and best. Arsenal had to make that choice, west ham, Everton man city, liverpool apparently are. As things stand now it's no big deal staying put but in time the waiting list will grow and grow and grow and the potential revenue made by moving will force the councils hand, preserve the buildings or loose incomprehensible amounts of trade for the city centre with a relocation.
One important thing you’re overlooking. It’s not up to the owners anymore whether they can decide to relocate or not. It’s now FA Law to consult with fans and if the majority of fans want to stay, that’s what’s happening.
It’s all to do with the protection of Club Heritage Assets and fans having the deciding vote on things like relocation, shirt colours and club names 👍🏻
SJP has the potential to expand way beyond the Emirates, Bramley-Moore Dock, Spurs etc. They've all underestimated the growth of football. In the timescale you're talking SJP may well already be a 70k stadium. Won't be cheap and maybe short of what we need but coming with the absolute best location on the planet for football fans within our culture. Bigger than everywhere in the Prem but Old Trafford, on par with Dortmond and Bayern and atleast as big as the Italians and 10k less than The Bernabeu. There's no right or wrong but this is my take.
@@TynesideLife yes but when put to a vote where the owners give the fans a choice move and compete at the pinnacle of football or stay and be held back by revenue not being generated so they can invest what's needed in compliance with ever stricter ffp rules and regs. It wont belong before bigger restrictions are put on spending. Fans can't have it both ways a choice will need to be made and with a waiting list of 20,000+ or more people waiting to get tickets that vote is unlikely to go the way people with season tickets want it to go. Darren Eels is tasked with growing the clubs profile to increase revenues, that comes from sponsorships and fans, what fans are ok never been able to see their club? None. Darren Eels has 1 hand tied behind his back and everyone knows it. We all know what's coming eventually, fans of other clubs that have moved felt the same. The council will be forced eventually to cripple city centre business's or allow the go ahead of a meaningful expansion regardless of listed buildings or not. I'm sure the city centre match day revenue is far more important to thousands of businesses than a building. It wont happen yet but in the future its certain.
@@v4vendetta237 I’m fully convinced that fans will want to stay. Staying has no correlation with being held back. Chelsea only has 42K.
The owners have pledged to stay and they’re currently investing in real estate to fulfill that pledge. There’s also the small matter of no land that would be available in several years time.
I know you’re desperate to believe that we’ll move but it’s the most unlikely of scenario us bud
@@TynesideLife Chelsea's fan base is tiny compared to Newcastle and their revenue has grown in accordance with the league Newcastleunder Ashley stagnated it's not a fair comparison. I'm not at all desperate for Newcastle to move I'm desperate for them to stay but my eyes are wide open and I see a scenario on the horizon that can't be escaped. You are clever man that has done in depth vids on a lot of subjects including football finance if I'm not mistaken. The premier league and uefa are tightening spending in accordance to a percentage of revenues generated, it will hit all big spending clubs hard over the next few seasons. How does a fan balance wanting the club to invest with wanting to remain in a stadium that wont generate enough revenue to compete at the pinnacle of football? Fans can't have it all. Either the council will allow the development of st James's park at the cost of a building to preserve the city's income generated on matchdays which will become more frequent due to us competing in European competitions or they will deny the request which will set in motion events which disgruntled fans who have never been able to watch their team live will vote to move. 52k used to be big but football is growing exponentially and in 10 years time we wont be able to compete. The council will be forced into allowing the full extension to the stadium, its unavoidable in the future, because the alternative would destroy so many businesses in the city.
Of course he won’t say no come the time 💷🤑 it will happen 💯 % it’s just when 👏👏👏 Good video Eddie 👍
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Very balanced view from the owner plus if he does sell up will likely make a few quid as well !
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St James Park should be demolished and rebuilt into a brand new one on the same site like the Tottenham Stadium. This piecemeal expansion won't do any good. There needs to be a grand plan with huge capacity and state-of-the-art facilities. Just play at Sunderland for a year or two to get a New-castle!
It’s that last sentence that brings that whole idea crashing down I’m afraid. It’s like expecting Rangers fans to play at Celtic Park for two years, or vice versa. I don’t even know where to begin on dismantling that.
There’s just be nowhere for the club to play and that’s why the club will do what it takes to expand modestly where they can. I’ve wrote an in-depth article on the subject if you’re interested 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife for a year, maybe two at most why not? Looks like Chelsea will rebuild Stanford Bridge from the ground up, increase capacity to 60,000 with modern, state-of-the-art facilities for the fans. Be a grown-up Newcastle fans be ambitious set your sights on Real Madrid Barcelona not woeful Sunderland
There is hope yay :) On another topic... Yesterday I bought a travel to Newcastle and a ticket to the game against Brentford, so finally I'm going to experience a home game. Many years ago went to an away game against Chelsea (we lost 1-2).
But I have a question... Am I allowed to bring a fullframe camera with an wide-to-mid range zoom lense (24-120mm lense)? What are the rules?
When I was at the game at Standford Bridge a guard told me to pack it away. I had a 70-200mm lense back then.
Hi Tony. Well done on getting a ticket. There are rules on the club website and technically, you’re not allowed to film inside the stadium.
Whether you choose to ignore that will be a personal decision 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife Thank you, I will check it out :)
Love the two young lads in the background weighing up their next burgalry while the owner’s getting interviewed
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Just been in the park eddy, the bulidings student and homes are listed. So it has to go high up rather than depth coming to that.
I know, it’s discussed in the video 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife Aye mate. Just some fans think it can be knocked down lol. I know you have covered it months before aswell.
@@rossblack9559 I’m pretty certain Leazes Tce won’t, for a few significant reasons that you rightly point out that I’ve covered before 👍🏻
I remember the first time I ever saw the stadium with my own eyes it was how I imagine seeing God would feel so I look forward to seeing what the owners do. Can't believe it's not far off 2 years since they took over its gone so fast.
Liverpool supporter here...Good luck next season and hope you expand your stadium, great working class supporters.
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No way these buildings should be demolished.
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@TynesideLife St James' Terrace or Leazes Terrace.
I have heard the club have purchased the old barker and stonehouse furniture store showroom. Do you know anything about that?
Where can i get that tshirt?
On my website mate. www.tynesidelife.com 👍🏻
aren't they listed building?
Yes. It’s discussed in the video and I cover them extensively in my other videos 👍🏻
I think they will build from the inside out, i.e., building materials and parts of the stand on the pitch and have a crane on the pitch so it doesn't disrupt the listed buildings
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@TynesideLife thank you for the reply. love your content
U think u can expanded nxt year throught it was list bulildings ?
That’s not claimed in the video Andrew
I have not been able to get a season ticket for years, if this guy sells his properties and I get a season ticket from the new stadium, then this man deserves a statue next to Shearer! Thanks Ed for doing this video, you content is excellent.
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Build over the top and use them as an indoor Mall office space, not many know the 3 Bulls still has its original pitched roof on
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Good morning Eddie,....another fabulous, insightful video,....thankyou. Getting to meet the lovely owner of those protected buildings on Leazes terrace. But your conversation inspired an idea, to take away some of the challenges presented by development of the East stand.
First,....I believe development of the ground is unlikely to progress unless a solution to the East stand can be found, its pivotal to the design of the Gallowgate stad and Strawberry place. Focus on the East stand is unlikely to be an indication of no future development of the Gallowgate stand.
My idea,......turn this problem into a opportunity using the precedent already set with Strawberry place. NUFC should buy the estate adjacent to the East stand and turn it into a hotel, thereby protecting the beautiful architecture and leveraging it to the benefit of the club and the city. That idea may give greater freedom to the architects to develop the East stand.
What do you think?
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Hi Penny, great ideas and points and I like the hotel idea!
The only thing I’d caution it with is that it’s not up to the owners what can happen to the building or it’s relationship with the East Stand, it’s down to the Secretary of State for Culture, in partnership with Heritage England and the council. This decision will be based on what’s best for the historical preservation of England and Newcastle.
If they can get around that, I think it’s great!
Would something like a network of tubular skylights from the top of the east stand down to in front of the houses help with the 'natural light' requirement, or would that be regarded as artificial lighting?
Not sure but sounds good 👌
I wonder how much he paid to buy them?
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What a lovely bloke true geordie
From a construction background, unless the buildings behind are purchased and demolished, which seems highly unlikely due to listed building status, then it seem any development costs are going to huge in relation to the limited amount of seats being added in any construction taking place on that particular stand. The end behind the goal (you guys will know the name better than me) looks the better option with the land behind being free of existing buildings. Isn't there an underground line near there though? As a stadium geek i love the shots of the back of the existing stand though, proper old school concrete columns i'm guessing from the 70s or 80s?
Hope there is some positive news from the study, St James like other iconic grounds has something the new grounds just can't buy and that's history. Impossible to recreate the inner city working class background of stadiums like Highbury, Upton Park and the like, you just end up with identikit soulless bowls.
Hi mate. It’s complex…
I’ve covered the land behind the Gallowgate a lot if you check the videos out on my playlist 👍🏻
The beauty is that infrastructure investment doesn’t contribute towards FFP, yet increased revenue from seat sales would help to improve the club revenue.
@@TynesideLife Yeah I've watched them all mate, been fascinating watching the club rise from the curse of Ashley to where it is now. The stadium is a tough one, the amount needed to redevelop existing compared to a full new rebuild usually sees a team move elsewhere due to cost v reward. But with St James having significant historical value and a lot of existing structure still being comparatively young it makes the choice between developing and moving. A bit similar to old Trafford, when you walk into these stadiums you can smell the history, the emotional ties only truly understood by proper fans
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@@bspark119 I agree but a big factor is outlay and investment return. No point spending £80/100 million if you can only add a few thousand seats. Doesn't make business sense
Of course the owner has his own agenda. But he´s right that history is important. If they can make a mix of old and new together. That would be fantastic. Keep on going with your great videos.
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Never mind expansion love the T shirt my Eddy👌
I might get you one for your birthday 😝
Nice bloke, everything has price
I was thinking throughout the video , I’d ask for season tickets if I sold.. then he added it in there 😂
😂 or a box!
Love the idea of a fanzone, but how do we think it would work? Surely they're not allowed to show the game live due to TV rights restrictions? Would they just broadcast the commentary?
Id recommend you watch my video on it as I know it’s very accurate. You need to think much, much bigger Mark and this Fanzone isn’t about screening the match
@@TynesideLife I'll go have a look now. Love your content and saw you filming near Bobby's statue on the Monday of the Leicester game. Wanted to say hello but didn't want to interrupt 😂
@@markdixon9902 say hi anytime Mark 👍🏻
I would have thought that since they are building a new arena next to the sage, the site the metro arena is on would be a good site for a new football stadium if they can't expand St James'
Relocation ain’t happening Ashley
@TynesideLife I get that, but brown field sites near the city centre are hard to come by
@@ashleylightfoot85 they’re not relocating Ashley
They need to knock that small side down and big a bigger side. Simply put more seats in it and hey presto you have more fans.
Yes Eddie, it's a double edged sword really, Cash seems up for the "cash", fair play, the fella put his money down to purchase that building, it's a classy building, but if its got to go then so be it, the students will get very good re housing options for sure.
And of course concerning Leases Terrace, that's a phenomenal piece of architecture, that must remain for me, and as the fella said where there's a will there's a way, the very best architects will be brought in to sort it.
Imo, we WILL see that expansion to the east stand.
Me too Davey 👍🏻
Amazingly just seen another vlog ,were they can increase capacity by 13,000 ,i think you mentioned a while ago that it would be hard ,to increase capacity by 6,000 so these new numbers are amazing bringing ,capacity to 65,000 with like you say new ways engineers with new stronger materials ,will be able to bring this to life .
Hi Mick. I’ve never said that.
In videos and on my guided tours I’ve expressed the opinion that 60-62K is the realistic optimised capacity increase. Around 8-10K more than it is now.
An additional tier on the Gallowgate with one corner extended would increase capacity to around 59/60k.
I believe a rebuild of the East Stand can bring a small increase but to find an additional 6K or so by expansion of the East stand needs some serious explanation.
There is currently a feasibility study in progress that will take around a year to complete, so anyone asserting a 13K increase is pure imagination at this stage. It sounds like some click bait Mick without any serious research 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife yeah fair enough mate I'm just old school footy lad ,hoping for the best for our ,most historic and world famous clubs were the game started ,but not as loved by our leaders and the establishment,hope they manage to do this great upgrade .
@@mickharrison9004 I’m clearly not an expert but I regularly consult with experts in their field so I can piece together a fairly realistic picture of the likely outcome. But of course, nobody really knows, not even the owners at this stage.
What I don’t do is jump on a Chronicle article, or a throw away comment and create a video about it.
It’s important to point out as well that there’s a huge difference between maximising capacity and optimising capacity. I know the club are looking to optimising the capacity by striking the balance between getting enough fans inside but also exploiting the commercial opportunities through hospitality etc.
All of this will take several years to unfold but if you’re asking, I wouldn’t expect more than 62K when it’s all finished 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife yeah thanks for informative reply mate ,a very good one have a great weekend 🤝
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Am I the only person that’s bothered about all those horrible scattered black and grey seats.
No mate, there’s quite a few of us so I’ve set up a support group and we can meet regularly. You in? 😃
@@TynesideLife yes definitely
Very informative, this developer is very posative. You can't just knock this architecture down though. For football lol
Leazes Tce won’t be knocked down 👍🏻
the only opportunities to build are the gallowgate end and gallowgate corners east and west . and the east stand and east stand corner . there would be no sense in building any higher on anywhere else . as long as is it for fans and not corporate boxes .
We’ll await the conclusion of the extensive feasibility study 👍🏻
The East stand is a major flaw
Fantastic video Eddy, can't get much better than interviewing the man who owns the building and its very encouraging that he is all for working with Newcastle United to find a solution that suits everyone. Exciting times, I'm sure the council will be just as keen to benefit the city these days. Money talks and this will have enormous benefits to the economy. 👍🖤🤍
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