The Real Authors Of The Bible - The Naked Archaeologist 124 - Who Wrote the Bible?
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- Featuring amateur archaeologist, enthusiast and multi-award winning investigative filmmaker, Simcha Jacobovici, The Naked Archaeologist is an irreverent, entertaining and eye-opening journey into the fascinating archaeology of the ancient world. Along the way, new discoveries are made, lost treasures revealed, and ancient mysteries uncovered.
The Bible is made up of dozens of books, but tradition has it that the first five books were dictated to Moses, by God. But could Moses have really written down the words that God spoke, including the Ten Commandments? The Bible says that millions of people witnessed this event - but what does archaeology say? - Zábava
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Illiterate? Moses grew up in the house of the Pharoah for a reason- to get educated. Even hieroglyphs of the ancient pyramids show us signs of literacy. Only Moses and/or a specially appointed assistant needed to be able to write in my opinion
A specially appointed by who? How did Moses write his own death and burial?
@@awumdah seriously? No-one ever said Moses was the only author of the Bible. David and others wrote Psalms, King Solomon wrote song of songs, the prophets surely wrote their own parts, any annointed person couldhave completed such a section
@@awumdah Nupuqi Om-Re Khonectics chamber degrees will guide you
Hell half world are illiterate in 2022. There are numerous authors of Bible it wasn't just one or 2.
It is as if Moses even existed
Excellent work! Thanks for the documentary..
Wonderful series. For a very in depth understanding of the question at hand, you need to make an appointment at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel with Doctor Nehemiah Gordon. He has an electron microscope for detecting folical holes from dots on parchments. For the pass 20 years he has been gathering scrolls to determine why some actually have the actual authentic name of g-d or the relacement Lord. His work is very interesting & He is extremely knowledgeable in my humble opinion. He has published several books on the topic u r covering in this video.
It is my understanding that the first set of tablets were carved by G-d & given to Moses with an oral explanation that he would put them into practice & then write what he learned from G-d down. When he broke that first set, G-d had him make the tablets & also carve the words & that is why he was gone so long from his people.
Please keep unpacking this archeology. Perhaps watchers & learners of ur series need to know there is the Torah, Kabbalah, commentary & traditions. All have their place in & outside of this discussion.
I never get tired of watching....
Have to take notes 📝 on this Thanks 😊
Love this! PLEASE Keep it UP!
I was 13 when I first read the books of Genesis and Exodus and was puzzled why many of its earliest stories were told not once but twice! I am now 70 and a born-again atheist after 25+ years of being a born-again Christian, Sunday School teacher and lay preacher - and guess what, I eagerly await videos featuring Simcha Jacobovoci because he does not blindly accept articles of faith but question each commonly and long-held, accepted truth. Truths should be addressed, not dressed! Thank you, Simcha!
@BMore Thank you for enlightening me, my brother and fellow sinner!!! 😉😉😉
Sad , Nupuqi Om-Re Khonectics chamber degrees will guide you
Your interview with Dr Barkay is the best...poor little Nathan!
That is a wonderful story told regards the discovery of the pottery. Reminds me of a story here in Derbyshire (UK). The local historical society were digging a Roman barn near the village of Ockbrook and had a young teenage boy with them. To keep him out of trouble they gave him a trowel and him to dig at a particular spot. Within an hour; perhaps even less, he presented the team leader with a gold ring. The ring turned out to be one of the most significant Roman stoned rings ever found in Derbyshire.
Fellow derbion✌️
Similar to annoying boy last cave story
The phony Juice control everything. Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Juice, and are not, but are the sin agag of Satan.
Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the sin agog of Satan, which say they are Juice, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. I am not sure who this describes, but I only know one group of people who call themselves J's and go to sin agag... The Dead Sea Scrolls were called fraudulent after they were discovered. The story goes that a Bed Uin Shep herd tossed a stone in a cave and heard a strange noise. Go look up pictures. He "tossed" a stone in that cave. Must of been really tall and had a great arm... Not being mean or hateful, just exposing the lies...
@@kathleenmcgill4607, I don't know that one. I was told the story by the dig leader when he presented a lecture to our local historical society.
@@dewnotbdeceived80 The Dead Sea Scrolls are consistent with the rest of the bible. Total nonsense
I love the way your mind thinks. You do such a great job at research. I appreciate your movies and documentaries a lot.. Your documentaries bring the Bible alive to a modern audience. Thank you .
Interesting archeological finds & food for thought for those of us who are not historical or Biblical scholars, & aren't seeking to make any conclusions. There are numerous videos of archeological findings in that geographical area, & the interpretations & theories made about them. Many are quite educational, especially seeing the actual geography where the stories of the Bible are set. It's always well done to take in the larger context of all the information & thinking that's out there on any subject.
I just absolutely love the way you go about inquiring, and employing the scientific method.
what? he literally said "I'm on a mission to prove there's one author, not more." Hardly an impartial inquiry that employs the scientific method...
@@akosh33 what he hears when he reads you will get joy from smashing the babies on rocks. Makes me wonder why I like him.
Great work. The only evidence we need that all the prophecy in the Bible is becoming reality
They did a good job keeping the torah the same for 3000 years, but that doesn't mean there wasn't multiple authors, until they can find evidence of it before 1000 BC, the process they described is most likely how it became standardized.
See Kitchen's Ancient Orient and the Old Testament.
What I still don´t understand is since Moses lived around the 13th century BC, and the Standard hebrew saw its beginings in the 8th century BC, how did he managed to write the Torah in Hebrew. Unless you pull the Yehovah card. Moses was nursed by his mother and probably learnt to speak Canaanite or even a Paleo-hebrew, but did her mother knew how to write. His elder brother Aaron was jew and was fluent in egyptian and paleo-hebrew, Moses spoke egyptian and some paleo-hebrew, so it makes sense that Aaron was hired as Moses interpreter when speaking to the jews. In any case if the original Torah writen by Moses was in paleo-hebrew then somebody later had to transcribe the whole thing into biblical hebrew and that was a very good opportunity to change things involuntarily and voluntary. But it is an amazing feat to have some scholars that could read paleo-hebrew 500 years later after returning from captivity in Babylon. They probably had amazing universities those Babyloneans.
@@enriquegonzalezortegariver4181: "how did he managed to write the Torah in Hebrew" -- When we say that Moses wrote the Torah, we don't say that he wrote it in Hebrew.
@@davidconklin9552 So at some time, someone had to translate the original writing to hebrew with the caveats of translating from one language (an old out of current use language) to another language (a more modern language developed in a different cultural environment).
Since the process of the Documentary theory has the Bible allegedly written about 500 BC, a version of the Bible before eight hundred would disprove it. In fact if we have, as I think they say in this video, two verses from six hundred BC that would probably be before the Documentary writers began their creation of the Torah. Biblical passages themselves contest the theory, such as the passage about Josiah having the Temple cleaned and scrolls found and read. That would mean the scrolls were there before Judah went into captivity. The documentary theory has the documentary authors doing their creative writing after the Jews were carried off to Babylon.
As for the Pentateuch, I understand that although Moses was the main author, in fact with the use of scribes, he compiled most of Genesis from his Hebrew brethren and their written and oral traditions.
I loved this. Thanks you so much.
Two points occur to me:
1. Moses was raised as an Egyptian. If he was literate, it would have been in hieroglyphs.
2. What is called Hebrew script nowadays is in fact derived from Aramaic script. Earlier, and maybe up to the time of the captivity in Babylon, there was another Hebrew script, which fell out of use in Babylon and afterwards.
"Shh", says Simcha. "You're messing up my hypothesis."
Try building a pyramid 😂
Actually ancient Hebrew is more similar to ancient Canaanite text and the belief is that the two split off at some point
there were many types of hieroglyphs. Those in the walls were the fancy one, but in the daily life people used a more "cursive" writing. And we must remember here, that the hieroglyphs were also phonetics and inspired the Phoenicians to create the first version of the fully phonetic alphabet. Moses maybe wrote only the 10 commandments and holds the Yahwist tradition. On the other hands, new cannanites converted to Yahwist tried to merge their El tradition into a unique view.
@@eleandrocustodio like we where there and like we really can understand them
So Cool! Love how you prove God!
None of this proves that it was written by a single author.. it just proves that parts of the Torah were well preserved.
Solid point. Radziner Rebbe Yitzchok Englard told the story in the Hillazon episode about archaeologists not discovering any telephone lines in their digs, so that must "prove" they had cell phones two thousand years ago. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
@@jamesk.bishop105 That last bit is a huge stretch. When there's zero evidence of something after extensive searching, you gotta be crazy to assume it's true. Keep looking, but assume it's not true until you find it
@@jamesk.bishop105 of course not. They used string and clay cups😄😄
i disagree to what one expert says that moses dont know how to read and write because he being educated by the egytians before it was revealed to him who he really is...
Yes Moses was educated by the Egyptians of the time but they had to teach him differ languages of the time as they was training him to be a leader as he was rise by the daughter of pharaoh. Israel which speaks and writes in Hebrew Moses had to learn it as the Israel's was slaves to them at the time. And I bet Moses know some other languages also. Can not prove this but that my thoughts anyway. Simcha Jacobovici might be able to prove it. Wish he would.
Love your show!!!!!
And Moses wrote about his own death and burial.
Thru a vision or did someone finish his work for him? Makes the curious mind wander don't it?
@@pb5640 Hi A knkw where is the Ark Box can you help me tell
@@abdolahmoghadam2340 what in the world are you talking about?
@@pb5640 He wants to know the current location of The Ark of Covenant. Good luck to anyone informing him where it is! My favorite location - somewhere in a warehouse in Area 51! Well, this guess is as good as the next one anyone could come up with!
The
conclusion - that the Exodus did not happen
at the time and in the manner described in the Bible - seem irrefutable
when we examine the evidence at specific sites where the children of Israel
were said to have camped for extended
periods during their wandering in the
desert. (Numbers 33) and where some archaeological indication - if present -
would almost certainly be found. According to the biblical narrative the
children of Israel camped at Kadesh-barnea for thirty eight of the forty years
of the wanderings. The general location of this place is clear from the
description of the southern border of the land of Israel in Numbers 34. It has
been identified by archaeologists with a
large and well watered oasis of Ein el-Qudeirar in eastern Sinai on the border
between modern Israel and Egypt. The same Kadesh was probably preserved over
the centuries in the name of a nearly smaller spring called Ein Qadis. A small
mound with the remains of a Late Iron Age fort stands at one of these oasis.
Yet repeated excavations and surveys throughout the entire area have not
provided even the slightest evidence for activity in the Late Bronze Age not
even a sigle sherd left by a ting fleeing band of frightened refugees” Israel Finkelstein Neil Silberman The Bible
Unearthed p. 63. Finkelstein is Director of the Sonia and Marco Institute of
Archaeology at Tel Avid University. A
Touchstone Book Published by Simon and Schuster New York 2002
Never mind the lack of archaeological evidence,
the frequent contradictions alone reduce the narrative to nonsense.
I tried three times over a 40 year period to make sense of it.
@John Carboni What are your qualifications as an archaeologist compared to Finkelstein?
All you prove is that you hired shitty archaeologists.
I watch these at night before I go to sleep but quite often start to nod off. I can never remember which ones I've seen
Very Good info..
Haha!!! ALWAYS WATCHED THIS GUY!!
Charlton Heston wrote the Bible and it was well recorded, There were several interviews to confirm all that!
Yes, Heston protesteth a bit to much... if you know what I mean.
LOL..
Ha, ha, love it!
A Great Man
LOL..
Professor: "The Torah in its present form was compiled in the 6th century BCE."
Simcha: "But the Dead Sea Scrolls from the 1st century CE are the same as the Bible of today."
Brilliant piece of logic there, Simcha.
The are several examples of rewriting or harmonising in the Dead Sea Scrolls, e.g., Plate 5 4Q252, aligning the number of days the arc was a afloat to the 340 day Jewish year.
Ah yes, because the flood days changed, that means that there were multiple editors and that moses never wrote anything, of course.
The problem with this subject is asking Europeans that had nothing to do with the ancient scripture
Langston Johnson you think it’s a problem having someone research something objectively?
Langston Johnson I appreciate your comment but I dont think it has anything to do with Europeans. It has more to do with the person doing the documentary. Although he sounds like a learned man, he didn't go back nearly far enough in history. He seemed to take us far enough back for the Jewish input. Which is deserves credit too. But he totally left out the Sumerians and all the books that were replicated from their religions that mirror today's bible that pre-dates the Jewish bible by hundreds if not thousands of years. The stories are almost identical.
what you are saying make no sense-nobody on earth today have anything to do with the ancient scripture, whether European or not
Langston Johnson
What Europeans? The people in this video were all Jews in Canada & in Israel.
i think what u meant should be Khazarian Jew..
I found this so interesting. Thank You for all the information.
very cool!
Thank you for your show you are amazing
The wall inscriptions at 17:18 looks kind of fresh.
Why is mount Sinai sin Egypt. They looking for proof in the wrong places. Sinai is in Saudi Arabia
@@Jmelpegues
Mt Sinai is a place. Whether it’s attributed to Egypt or Saudi Arabia doesn’t change where it is.
Desert youth
Weak and no Scholarship.. Proved nothing other than you still don't know who wrote it.
the only certain barrier to truth is the belief that you already have it
I have the truth,
I am god.
There you have it.
@@JamesRichardWiley know before you stand
What is truth?
true is within
Truth is it's impossible mathematically even...that the possibility of you as a sperm reaching the womb is impossible... Shows something...
How can Moses be an illiterate while he grew up as a royal prince in the hands of the king of Egypt, are you telling us that Egyptians then are also illiterate ? Who writes for them?
Would God choose a prophet that is illiterate?
It amazes me beyond words that such erudite, intelligent scholars can seriously articulate the notion that Moses transcribed the words of God "letter-perfect". One would think that some trace of critical thinking would have made them reject such a preposterous notion.
And I don't mean to be disrespectful towards religious men. I respect religion. But theologians should know better than that. "Inspired by God", "guided by inner contemplation", "drugs", etc. but... transcribing God's words to the letter? I find it actually demeaning to the very notion of God. God doesn't speak in specific words, I would think. Ideas, emotions, and other mental/neural processes, but "words"? Come on! Next thing you'd know, they'll say that God spoke Hebrew, and no other language.
But wait? I'm not Jewish, but isn't it part of what the chosen people believe? And yes, it's a genuine question.
I agree. I love the study of biblical times, how much we can learn about how people lived but I've never really liked the concept of trying to use modern scientific methods to prove things that are really based on faith. As a Christian it used to really bother me that the religious people that would be rolled out to debate the existence of God or historical accuracy in the bible with people like Christopher Hitchens ( who I liked ) and Richard Dawkins ( not so much ) always seemed to be fundamentalists and young earth creationists and it was always such a wasted opportunity because so much time would spent on subjects like the existence of dinosaurs, earth being being a few thousand years old or evidence for Noah's ark and the flood. I always found it pointless trying to use science to prove somethings that are clearly unscientific. Instead religion should debate the human condition, philosophy, morality, the benefits of religion. The reason someone like myself, who is fairly scientific in my thinking can take the gospels and believe it in my heart is through a leap of faith that seems counterintuitive but that's why its faith.👍🏻
Hey Simcha, love your videos and I like your style. Question what languages did Moses speak? Canaanite, Phenitiaan, Arab, Farsi, Biblical Hebrew, Standard Hebrew?
If I recall in the YT channel “Religion for Breakfast” they go deep into the earlier forms of what the scribes wrote. I believe it’s an early version of Hebrew/Aramaic.
@@carlosrios3215 good to know thank you!
Very Good!..
Just because a fragment was found to be faithfully copied doesn’t mean that there was no redactor/editor/compiler.
Just as if you have a sample of a dress that is from one piece of cloth, doesn’t allow one to conclude that the whole dress was made with only one piece of cloth.
I think it is absolutely amazing that archaeologists continue to find the same writings of the Bible we have today that go back 2500+ years. God said his word will be preserved.
Agree 👍 damn those skeptics n none believers. Do you
Sorry, there is not a single original draft of the Bible. Not anywhere. It doesn’t matter to believers, but no less true.
How Beautiful the Torah sounds and how wonderful it hasn't changed
2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching
CORonaViRuS bewaring looking forward spreading it around as it is written CORonaViRuS spreading the word
I like these older videos that he did where he tries to prove instead of disprove the Bible. Good job on this video.
No one has ever proven anything in the Bible wrong
No one has prove it all true.
Dinosaurs would of existed before Adam and Eve.
@@bluesky6985 That is nonsense.
@@muttinchops3708 Yes they have
Thoroughly enjoying the series!!
3:15 Father whats-his-name's second 'no' was real funny!
Unfortunately the majority of us cannot read the old testament in its original language, nor the new testament in its original languages so we must rely on qualified others to justly and truthfully analyse and judge for us. Much has been lost, and we will never know the full story.
Thank you all, Simcha and team for making and posting these video. Love, light, joy and blessings always to everyone.
I love biblical stories even when I don't follow religion the discoveries just keep on coming
follow Jesus,
Most discoveries disprove the Bible narrative
In God's grace you will find them 😇..In time all shall be revealed..😇🙏
I also love the song..He's a tall tall man..from a tall tall land..😊
I've never heard of that song I'm going to look it up right now.
Nonsense
This is incredible.
Moses is an Egyptian name meaning born of water leading to the conclusion that Moses was an Egyptian and likely had some connection to the cult of Akhenaten grandson of Thutmoses. Akhenaten invented monotheism and cast the money hangers out of the temple. All aspects of Hebrewism and Christianity trace back to and were copies of Egyptian spirituality. I respect the opinions of the archeologist with all things but blind faith.
The Torah has been distorted by ancient rabbis, they put their understanding into the Torah .
I would not say distorted by edited. They seems to think of themselfs as scribes of God so they could change / updated it.
@@eleandrocustodio If the Torah had come from God, no rabbi would dare change it, that would be unwise, which means that if they indeed changed it, it was because they were certain it did not come from God, it was written by men.
@@_John_P A Rabi wouldn't change it. But, a prophet would. Jeremiah, Ezequiel and many others saw themselves as someone that speaks in god's name. My personal theory is, someone had the mission of joining both versions (north and south) and at that time, these versions were already considered holy so they did the least change possible. Another point of view, jews are used to book with many point of views/voices (talmuld/zohar etc) but not us with greek, so for them these two versions are right or wrong for the editor.
As an archaeologist of the Ancient Near East I believe the Exodus is a tribal memory that goes back to the Late Bronze Age
See also my book; Tribal memories and the Confusing Numbers in the Old Testament
17:36 … „symbols that stand for sounds, rather then pictograms“ - Hebrew was and is a consonant notation. It „sounds“ only when the non written, missing proper vocals are „added“ by the reader, in the moment of verbalising.
Even one letter mistake invalidates the whole text. Yes? They found a whole scroll in Qumran ALMOST
letter exact. Mmmm
Jesus was a Mmmmushroom!
🖐👀🖑
The "Mmmm" at the end makes me very uncomfortable.
by the way i like your videos.. SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST HERE FROM PHILIPPINES....
Me too,from Sydney
Although is a clip very old...still whats the purpose of the "noise" ?
We love Simcha 😌
A good scholar reviews the evidence and forms an opinion. This guy does the exact opposite.
Like Ehrman, when he started doing his research, turned his back to his past,became an atheist and a famous scolar.
Ehrman has personal reasons for being Agnostic in which my opinion aren’t strong enough. However, Erhman is a “show me the proof” type of guy. Simcha is more of a sensationalist rather than a researcher and tries to push his theories albeit entertaining.
@@carlosrios3215
Doesn't everyone has his personal reasons.
The Royal library of Egypt contained written records from time before Noah's Flood.
Well that could have been at any time as Noah's flood never happened. The Noah story was stolen by the Hebrews from a more ancient Mesopotamian myth.
The is no geological evidence of a worldwide flood at the one time.
There is evidence of floods all around the world, but all at different times.
@@kenlyneham4105 That is not entirely accurate. Yes it is an old story that had been told by before the hebrews time as was Noah himself and yes it has been told by many others from all across the globe and again yes some of those stories maybe about separate flood events But there is evidence of one major flood event that inspired many recounts including from the Mesopotamians which I believe where the ancestral roots of Abraham and Sarai. Also there is no reason to believe that the story was in anyway a "myth" . Read Graham Hancock's Fingerprint of the gods and he makes the case for this very real flood event to have happened around 12000 BCE which lines up perfectly with many megalithic sites like Gobekli Tepe and could fit the timeline of the Old testament if the old testament had a timeline. .
@@jayf8308 "But there is evidence of one major flood event that inspired many recounts including from the Mesopotamians which I believe where the ancestral roots of Abraham and Sarai." Sic.
What major flood event? There are accounts of a major flood event and all of them are of different ages.
The protagonists were:
Noah from the Hebrew story 6th century BCE
Utanapishti in the mesopotamian story 7th century BCE.
Ziusudra from in the 17th century BC Sumerian Flood Story.
And Atrahasis in the 18th century BC Atrahasis Epic.
No stretch of the imagination that the Hebrews concocted their Noah story from one or all of the others.
The Hebrews wrote of an event that they say happened around 4,500 years ago, NOT 14,000 years ago.
I am wondering, why would you present the thoughts of Graham Hancock as 'evidence for anything, when he is known for his pseudoscientific theories involving ancient civilisations, Earth changes, stone monuments or megaliths, altered states of consciousness, ancient myths, and astronomical or astrological data from the past?
The only relationship is he, like the bible, is full of crap.
@@kenlyneham4105 I disagree. lol
@@jayf8308 Well, surprise surprise!
Of course you disagree.
Im not a christian and im not into religion or anything but im interested in these kind of documentary lol
April,21 ,2021 I still watching
This is why there is so many confused people in this world, being atheist you live a much less complicated life just saying religions bring arguments and sometimes war tell me otherwise
I stopped being "confused" when I was 19. It's been much better for me in life to only believe things that can be proven scientifically, so now I don't waste my time looking up at the sky and talking to a cloud.
@Joe Deadfinger It's harder not to believe scientific facts than it is to believe in something that can't be proven real? Sure. Makes a lot of sense.
Simcha Jacobovici thank you very much for this documentary because i discovered that the book in my possession is the same of the Original Bible you exposed.
Interesting
Simcha: What is this green mold on the wall?
Barkay: Green mold.
lol
When you read ANY book you get the perception of one voice. Yet, that author has read many other authors, gathers literary devices and "field study" on the subject, then passes it to one or more editors, etc.
So yeah, you guessed it, that "one voice" you hear when reading a book is your own voice interpreting it.
I love watching all the people complaining that he only believes what he wants to, when there is literal evidence at the end of the video.
@@davidburton6573 there is evidence that moses wrote the bible? really? there is concrete evidence of one-man-authorship even? nope. just re-watched the ending. there's not. c ya!
@@fernandorendon8618 It's general sense to assume one author unless proven otherwise. Until you can provide a single shred of evidence to the contrary of the assumed solo authorship that is claimed by the writings themselves, then it will remain as established fact that Moses wrote the books.
@@davidburton6573 ir never says in the books that moses is the author, and we know genesis 1 and 2 are different sources. We Also have translations, copies.... how can you asume 1 author for such a vast colection of books? Be a believer, its your right.
@@fernandorendon8618 Exodus 34:27
"Then the LORD said to Moses, 'Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.'"
It never says it ay? I guess you need to pick up your Bible again.
I sure miss this show..?!!
Me too!!! I love this guy!!!
i believe Mark written by Josephus, Matthew by Pliny the Elder, Mark by Paul himself, John by one of Pontius Pilatus's daughter... Cos only them seem to be highly educated and know Aramaic and Greek quite well back then...
Every 10 years we have another new writer of the Holy of books and God 's use of Noah's ship paper to cleanse the poop deck of animal droppings. When the question is, "Who made the paper that God used to wipe his black hole on ??? " ANOTHER question is, when exactly did he create his son as his exact image ???
Bible is composed of many books by different prophets even after moses. So there are many author. You can include the apostles of the Lord too. So there are many authors.
Not that bible, the other one.
Moses wasn't born util Exodus chapter 2
@@_John_P Which one?
I always wondered about the accuracy of the Old Testament until someone explained to me how the Jewish scribes do their checking. I doubted no longer! Yes, the pentateuch was clearly written by Moses. Many other authors wrote the rest of the Old Testament. Then the New Testament came along. Now that I understand how we know that is accurate too, I do not doubt it. (I'm not Jewish.)
No mate, the problem still remains unsolved. They are precise on copying the original source, no doubt, but the question is: who wrote the original source.
You fall for anything. Moses is Osmosis simply put.
@@Slerro Moses wrote the original source.
@@canadiankewldude prove it?
@@westpole You can take the word of academics or you can research the topic for yourself. I researched from myself. Even the academics do not all agree with each other.
Bravo Simca
Please interview Finkelstein.
Sumerian text is older it speaks of Noah and the creation story. Get a clue.
The Sumerians do NOT talk of Noah, they talk about a man called Ziusudra who built a boat and saved his family and a few animals.
Noah is restricted to the Hebrew story.
@@kenlyneham4105 yes I agree I just ment same as Noah in the Bible like the Bible borrowed that info.
Old testament is actually comes from many messengers so its not possible to come from one writer
Yes
Simcha's amazing 🤩
This should be informative!
It isn't
The open-minded priest here, assuming the Torah was the handwork of ONE scribe, what creates the belief that the scribe in question was Moses? Is there somewhere where Moses claims authorship as inspired by God?
Belief and tradition muddled by the biblical text. Deuteronomy 31:22. Then you have other ..."human" perceived fallacies. Moses, himself, is written in 3rd person. Numbers 12:3. Logically if you include yourself in a story, it would make sense, but that passage seems off for something Moses wrote, while alive, about himself. So, the for or against is on you
THEN you have more evidence for multiple writers in Genesis 12:6. The statement came to pass after Moses was dead, not during his life. Canaanites took the land over after Moses died.
I am not trying to be a dick, but perhaps you're not ordained? Because I am average Joe, not a theist, and not a historian, and I know of these passages. Should you not know them more familiar than myself? I mean, you can't ask a question of a mathematician, who doesn't know existing formula ;) A priest is labeled such after years of study, training, testing, and I would think, as a Catholic, the core of what would be knowing scripture from A to Z.
OH, and an afterthought. Who wrote the book of Jubilees, Leptogenesis, why was it removed from most bibles printed after 1811, why was it never included in the Torah, but taken AS gospel by a multtiude of rabinical based splinter groups outside of Israel such as the Gz,ez , and what is it's the glaringly painful message it gives WHEN you fixate on the base narration?
Who wrote what is hardly relevant since it will never be proven. WHY X exists, why X does not. Why X is included, why X is not included....THESE are important on historical levels DUE to the massive political implications that would adjust perspectives as it relates to specific areas of biblical texts.
An example. Jubilees tells you Eve is the child-bearer for Cain and Abels Children. The bible/Torah, creates people out of thin air after the slaying of Able, with no mention of God's action. Take not from, nor ad too. SO, God did not make them. BUT it also has no begat relations, so Eve did not have them...or Adam. One text that is not considered canon, by any group, declares 33 sons and 23 daughters by Adam. Flavius makes no mention of where this information comes from....along with a lot of his "Jewish historical" claims (No slight on Jewish people, every sect has it's liars, just read Mattew/Mark/Luke/John side by side sometime :)) It seems more likely his goal was to REMOVE any inference of incest as his "historical" writings were SPECIFICALLY for a Roman audience, not a Jewish one.
THAT "WHY" is more important that who wrote what book of the bible :) And that is a SMALL "why" when taking the sheer mass of the bibles stories and passages into consideration.
The above is 100% political in nature, not biblical, but there it is in the bible. THOSE are the questions that COULD be answered with a lot of real-world studying on gnostic texts, census records, pottery, tax records...MUNDANE writings that could explain a political narrative, or bias for why a thing is and is not written, accepted and not accepted :) Once you find the root, you can then say OK! This is not there, but it belongs there, and here is the REAL WORLD examples to support X view.
That is how you resolve issues with biblical inconsistencies, not arguing over who wrote what . If you can resolve a view through knowledge of existing metrics, tangible not philosophical, then you can add credit to a view. Enough credit alters the perception which can then domino into other areas. Why slaves and then no slaves? Why no haircuts of specific types? Why no witches since a witch is a philosophical view, not a spell-slinging, dungeons and dragons, type entity? God never said go kill all of the Acadians....go kill every Pharases, go kill every sodomite ....But suffer not a witch. Why would that particular religion draw such ire? That is why those mundane things I mentioned above are as important as any other historical item in resolving confusion, and increasing understanding.
Well, that when tangent fast
IGood luck with your studies. Remember, a mouthpiece is not a servant. If you cannot question the existence of God, then you are undeserving of the Faith. All questions are eventually answered and those answers serve to reaffirm most, not shake them free from the tree as most Christians would feel must happen :)
@@LigitandMeyers I tip my hat to you sir. I haven't seen many able to organize and clearly express himself as you do, with such based/grounded knowledge and so specific.
Jesus, Jesus quotes Moses... as Moses. Luke 24:27 shows Jesus stating that Moses wrote part of the Scriptures, and Mark 7:9-10 have Jesus quoting Deutoronomy as the words of Moses. So yes, it states that Moses wrote the Torah.
Ozicell
And there is Exodus 24:4
@@LigitandMeyers Thank you for your considered response but I am a little confused - must be my aging brain, LOL! Are you saying that these passeges prove that Moses wrote the whole of Torah or not? I will certainly admit that parts of it are his authership but I can't see that he wrote the whole of the Torah.
Just because a scroll hasn't changed in 3500 years, doesn't mean that it was written by one author.
It's not even true. The Silver Scrolls, which are 2,600 years old, are written in the Palaeo-Hebrew alphabet, which is nothing like the Hebrew used in modern scripture. Only two brief passages have survived from the pre-exile period. That's hardly a basis to say anything about how content has evolved.
Actually there is another version of torah. Samaritan Torah. Samaritan torah is older than Jewish torah
None of the surviving Samaritan scrolls are terribly old. The Avishaʿ Scroll was written in the 14th century. Of course, texts from Biblical times can survive only in the form of a copy of a copy of a copy.
If the other authors were from the time of Moses, then nobody would give a shit who wrote it, they would know it's accurate no matter what.
This quote at 21:21 is already different to this one: Numbers 6:24-26 New International Version (NIV)
24
“‘“The Lord bless you
and keep you;
25
the Lord make his face shine on you
and be gracious to you;
26
the Lord turn his face toward you
and give you peace.”’
different from that one:
Numbers 6:24-26 New King James Version (NKJV)
24
“The Lord bless you and keep you;
25
The Lord make His face shine upon you,
And be gracious to you;
26
The Lord [a]lift up His countenance upon you,
And give you peace.” ’
I think it's much older than given credit for, at least most of it is, and did originally come from separate sources but was compiled and finished in the time of moses or just after just like the NT was in the third century. I don't think that takes away from it in any way though others would disagree. If God exists then what we have is what we were meant to have, if not then it is an important cultural tradition defining our morality. The former will matter in heaven but the latter is the most important from a practical sense as we are seeing what kind of societal implosion lack of principal leads too!
What’s with the jazzy music? Hard to take seriously
Docia Ayers you beat me to it.
Great work! Let's have more like this.
Haha! The counter shouted out “they left out the letter R”.
All I want is for this man to look at the camera and say, "How do you do, fellow kids!!"
I'd love to see you do one about the real mt sinai in Saudi Arabia
Within the span of 30 seconds this dude goes from talking about being scientific to declaring he is going to force his preconceived notion to be true.
Simcha's method is to try & prove his own preconceived ideas. his docs are entertaining, but I wouldn't bet the farm on his conclusions.
Hahaha typical atheist
Anyone who thinks that doesn't go for anybody on any subject is naive.
"Hyuk hyuk I am just following the evidence where it must lead."
-says the idiot unaware of his bias.
Because science is about truth. Until you ask if it is true then it is about falsification.
(Science is good, not being sarcastic)
Science, it is SO........sciency
@alvinpetrovitch13 You are supposed to try to prove if a hypothesis is correct, not force it to be correct.
But this all completely contradicts itself, Moshe can't write about his own death.
If you guys don’t know by now that Eve wrote the Bible then I don’t know what to think about you ppl. She wrote the book 7 days after giving birth to the whole world.
She even wrote the lyrics to: He’s Got The Whole World In His Hands. Of course it was sung Arc-apella.
Good for you... 🌹🪔🦉✨
All known versions at that time were burnt at the end off the nicæan councill, and they were given the New to take with them home
The Nicean council did no such thing. Their only goal was to come to an agreement on the nature of Christ.
It is always a good idea to thoroughly research an idea before you make a public comment.
That's not even remotely close to reality. What the hell kind of acid were you on, because that's some next level stupid.
The Romans rewrote Judaism,
Judaism is a religion not a book
I never knew they were time travellers?
Both Modern christianity and Judaism are Roman inventions!
And God said, To know me you will know all the creatures of the world.
Its wonderful and amazing in God grace and wisdom of his made dust servant long and old times ago. Sorry im not in english