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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
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the AIs are taking over because they can practice 68 hours a day, what a sad reality we live in
The only reason they have that much time is because of us. WE ARE THE GOD OF AI's
They can multitask.
😂（me?
The closer estimate would be 40 days an hour, and the subpar results shown is the video indicate only that the model isn't actually specialized in classical music, like catching differences between various composers' styles
Davie still wins 😎
I don't want AI art and music. I want AI to automate the mundane aspects of life so I have more time to pursue art and music.
This is why if not non-musicians, artists should stay away from AI. Time will tell if AI will eventually rob us from creativity, turning us into morons or somehow we will survive this horror.
I want AI to do my laundry not my day job
As an artist, I use AI so I can do better than what it does. Easy solution.
@Zareh_Abrahamian it will not rob us of the experience of creativity. Art is an experience, not a product
The AI feels the same way.
"its basically jojo siwa without the... seahorse evolution"
i LOST it 😭😭
OMGMGG
Editor-San is having way too much fun on this episode
Letting Brett and Eddy loose in a studio without violins and classical music tends to go crazy. Fun video, but poor editor-san who had to see the uncut version. 😅
Editor San has a lot of fun nowadays lol
Editor-san just upgraded from the basement to the celling
Editor San left the building
maybe they let editor-san to see some light
Editor san is in my basement
Editor is an annoying millenial
@@pv5871 its somewhat true….
"All pop music is now ai generated" is now my head canon.
Not like it would make a big difference lol
Reminds me of that one anime…. (Carole & Tuesday, anyone?)
@@billabobytnah, even pop music writers have a purpose for writing it. With AI it's still dramatically cheapened
W e e d E a t e r
@@hooman9554 money. the purpose is money. nothing else, so it's already soulless
pls I beg, if u can, make these videos longer, they're hilarious
Fr!!!
They can’t. They have to practice.
Do a part two using Udio - its training is clearly much deeper than Suno and it's scary. The same prompts offered much more convincing classical music (although sometimes odd like you ask for a solo violin and it gives you an entire string section lol). It also told me that they cannot use Mozart's likeness without his permission which I don't think will be happening any time soon 🤣
Udio genuinely left me speechless after I asked it to compose a finale to a symphony in the style of Rachmaninoff. It made music that I could only dream of being able to compose.
Perhaps naively, I thought classical music would be a harder code for AI to crack, but here we are.
Am an aspiring composer already with years of training. Yeah for me too, Udio was deeply impressive and extremely saddening - it composed things in seconds that I personally would have been very happy with if I had composed them myself. Like many others in the composition and the other creative fields, you realize that the craft that you have spent decades of your life working on has been made at least partially redundant and unnecessary. Ah well, can only keep moving forward.
Just commented this before I saw this XD
3:31 I will legit pay to see this mv, not gonna lie-
Imagine all the song in the album are generated by artificial intelligence and the only thing real about it is thr voice of Bret and Eddy.
@@sonkim6876 Imagine Brett and Eddy being AI generated😨
These lyrics were better than human-written pop because they actually sung about something interesting
TwoSet, please make Strings of Sorrow please make Strings of Sorrow please make Strings of Sorrow
Personally disagree
pls never comment again
@@E_FoxSnowspirit ^.^ Oh yeah, lol, to clarify, I'm just making a joke. Pop music is a blast.
have a great day and go practice!
@@zarakoda oh cool cool thx
Do you hear how cringey the cheap ai generated music sounds?
This is how cringey your homework reads to the professor when you use ai instead of trying your best yourself.
Yeah I see so many YT comments and even Twitter posts that are so clearly written by AI. They have the weird chatGPT cadence to it. If a professor can't tell he's a dum-dum tbh.
GPT is terrible at content. It can write in an academic voice, but voice and structure was only *half* of what I was graded on in school. The essay had to actually be about something, not fluff.
GPT is very good at pretending it's right. It falls apart quickly.
Am teacher. Can confirm 😂
@@0ia
you just don't know how to use it lol
it's a language model, you can make it write however you want
@@MaksKCS I can already write however I want in the required academic voice and structure, and I know what content to write about. In this way, GPT is useless.
6:46 Eddy: How do I stop it! Make it stop! That's the point of AI Eddy, it's unstoppable. And I strongly suspect that Brett is actually taken over by AI already... Please come back Brett, no AI can ever learn your style of composition! This world needs you!!
Waiting for the drop of the Strings of Sorrow music video 😂
Guys.. remember the time they drank like 20+ bubble teas and ranked them?
4:39 the caffeine rush is clearly still pulsing through their veins..
4:40 2 grown and sucsessful men having the best time of their lives 😂😂😂
AI does not know theory, it only knows what other songs sound like. That's why it's good at boring pop. (Also anyone with headphones can immediately tell it's fake because it sounds like the vocals were recorded with a fishtank bubbling in the background.)
AI has access to the whole internet on any music theory articles, books, videos, etc. , updated with billions of parameters so that it picks out the essential information. So it does know theory and the mechanics behind music. It's not just a robot like people who have no knowledge of AI claim. It just displays a different kind of creativity. Something that can be admired or used for one's own advantage.
@@rahulradhakrishnan5591It doesn't know in a sense that a reasoning sapient being knows. It's big curve fitting, statistical approximations, etc. Only partial replication of brain's capabilities.
It doesn't mean it's not useful or impressive, but it absolutely can't understand and build abstractions in a way a human can.
Don't anthropomorphise it and don't read AI spaces tweets too much without taking it with a bucket of salt.
@@rahulradhakrishnan5591it's a really good copy-paste algorithm. It cannot think or create. It has no soul or passion. Don't be fooled by the hype created by ai tech bros who have money invested into it.
@@rahulradhakrishnan5591i dont think suno was trained on music theory and how it relates to music, i think it was just trained on a bunch of pop music
@@vanjazed7021 You're exactly right on all this. i don't know why ppl still believe the stuff they're seeing and hearing is on PAR with a human...it's all shaved FROM humans...it didn't "come up" with ANYTHING it jumbled a bunch of the data together to get an output.
Strings of hope turned to strings of sorrow 😂
3:40 why does this feels so much like a kdrama moment lmaoooo 😂😂
More like Indian drama moment.
💯 slow-mo gazing moment
😂
It worked with this prompt :
A classical music, orchestra with instrument. It must be like the classical compositer Paganini. I really want the violon to be the main instrument. Very varied musically without looping or repetition (doesn’t sound like paganini but at least it’s classical music)
Eddy's dancing is killing me
Is it just me or did anyone noticed the editing style in the latest videos of twoset are slightly different now from the previous ones?
It feels like the editors are experimenting and trying to personalize each video’s editing style to its theme or vibe.
Yes, I noticed that too and for me the new editor uses way too many effects! I really miss the more pure Two Set videos
Some sort of modifying, keeping up with the rest of CZcams? I think they have a new Editor-san. Maybe the og escaped from the basement...
Editor San left the building, her replacement is not as creative but tries to be cute
@@mountaingal24 is that true?
It's very funny. I discovered you guys by looking up "orchestra in gym cloths".
6:46 Eddy: how do I stop it??!
Brett: 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
And don’t foget the “EAEAEAHHH” right after 6:49
😂😂😂
"two exceedingly handsome six foot three talented musicians that practice 68 hours a day" 💀
Thank you for showing us how Disney wrote the music for Wish.
💀
4:49 Look's like Eddy's been practicing his dorothy the dinosaur moves for 40 hours 😂
Would love to see you guys play with Udio. Have tried generating classical music with it and so far it has been the one that nailed it most in my opinion.
throwback to brett 2022: "pop music: the epitome of art and culture"
meanwhile in 2024: jams to ai pop song
please do a full length strings of sorrow
Check out udio for classical music. Suno AI is mostly for pop music.
I want a part 2 of this. I need a part 2 of this.
Make another video trying udio, a lot better, can make those piano + violin pieces, virtuosic violin stuff as well!!
Use Udio instead, it's so much better in terms of composition, audio quality, clarity of vocals, etc.
And most importantly, the classical pieces it's able to write is insane, you need to make a part 2 using Udio instead of Suno please!
how about we just... don't? 🥳
@@user-rizzyshirokayano-009Why not? What's wrong with having fun with these intelligence?
@@sonkim6876 well there's actual composers that have that job for a reason and that AI shouldn't be taking that over with its shitty non-emotional creations :)
@@sonkim6876There is no intelligence there. Just stolen content pushed through the copyright laundry machine.
@@user-rizzyshirokayano-009 If the AI creates shitty non-emotional songs, how would it take over the job of actual composers?
My biggest nightmare unlocked 🎉
The AI music is like me whenever I try to "compose" something without any music theory base.
AI has access to all the knowledge in the world about music theory when it composes. I mean the whole internet, updated with billions of parameters.
@@rahulradhakrishnan5591 and yet it can't compose something in the style of Mozart?
@@oxoelfoxo Probably bc there are less incentives to develop an AI that specializes in classical music compared to pop. If for some reason someone does try to develop an AI like that, I feel like it could definitely compose something that sounds at least somewhat classical to an untrained audience.
@@rahulradhakrishnan5591 Well some help that "knowledge" is, because apparently it doesn't use any of it in the slightest 😂 It's okay for making pop music, but how come when asked to create anything that requires actual use of voice leading and complex harmonies, it just shits itself and resorts to making crappy solo piano pop music? If it's anything like AI art, they just steal work from artists and feed it to the AI to teach it to mimick those art styles.
Why are you defending AI anyway? Do you want all artists and musicians to lose their jobs? I'm not sure about all jobs, but at least a large number of jobs will be dedicated to AI if we keep going in this direction.
@@sophiewang1025 Key word: "untrained audience." Composing music isn't just about learning music theory and following those rules to a T. It's about learning the rules and then breaking them in creative ways. I refuse to believe an AI could ever do that, because it can only mimick what has already been done. It can't create something new that has never been done before.
Automatism is a creative technique for producing artworks without thought, will or intervention from the conscious mind. The term is originally taken from physiology, where it refers to unconscious bodily motions such as breathing or dreaming. ;)
You MUST make a video about Udio AI, for orchestral pieces it's literally mindblowing.
POOKIES HAVE POSTEDDDDD
LMAO😂😂
pookies?
Haha 😆 I’m dead 💀
yes 😻😻
something about the "Melancholy Melodies" made me thought of the bach influence with the first few secands sounding like the well tempered clavier prelude no.1 in c major, turns out I was wrong
the absolute effort and dedication for this teaser poster 3:31 😭 respect Editor-san
If you have more detailed prompts it gets creepily better, especially on Udio (Suno's competitor) with baroque styles. I seriously wonder if eventually we will even be able to tell the difference.
Editor-san deserves an extra boba tea for this.
when they started to advertise the insurance I lost it 😂😂
Can’t stop laughing!
I’m also putting in a vote for Strings of Sorrow release. 😂😂😂
If AI can compose slowly,it can compose quickly.
Very quickly! It is unfortunately true, unlike the case of the poor sod who coined the quote.
These two were so hilarious in this one 🤣 ngl I was smiling so much when they started dancing
Am I the only one who wants to listen to those songs? I went on Suno and found their account, but it says "they haven't made any songs public yet" and that bummed me out. TwoSet, please make these songs public. I wanna hear these bops in full version!
6:39 never heard anything more beautiful 😪
You used the wrong prompt for suno
It doesn’t register names in prompts for copyright reasons. You have to describe the genre and other keywords
For example: virtuoso classical violin concerto in the style of a 20th century Russian composer
oooh, so that's why. couldn't understand why it was so bad
@@oxoelfoxo yeah, it's definitely better with pop music. you can't really be specific with instrumentation or anything yet. unless it's just piano. but can get MUCH better classical music with better prompts than in the video
it gave them pop music because they used the word "duet". and it would have basically ignored the word Mozart
i like how lifeless corporate-sounding the "busy and frantic" mood is 😂
You can't put in specific artists, you have to describe the music
And maybe be more specific. I'm so excited to hear Mahler 10
STRINGS OF SORROW MUSIC VIDEO ON MY TABLE TOMORROW. Please 🤩
I think the reason the classical music was so bad is because Suno is not designed to make songs based on other artists or composers. They only let you describe how the song sounds. So when you put Mozart or brahms, it completely ignored that and just saw piano, so you get the samey sound song each time since the prompt has such little information in it.
Twoset Pop album dropping soon? HAHA
4:39 they ate
And left no crumbs✨️
For Suno, turn on custom mode, enable instrumental, write this in the style:
Classical period, Viennese-classical, 18th-century, Enlightenment-era, Baroque-influenced, Rococo, pre-Romantic, Galant
... and you'll get some nice classical music.
Well it'll be very dull music, nothing nice about it.
@@markodern789 tried it? Don't be so sure...
@@emrahgunduz tried it. It's trash and can never be anything more than trash, and I'm sorry you don't see that.
6:45 Couldn't help but hear in my head, "I'm sorry, I can't do that, Dave."
2:04 你是我的最爱 我的初恋 我的小提琴比你的还小
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈太搞笑了哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
你太可愛 lol
oh i thought he said wo de xiao jiji bi ni de hai xiao
@@user-nj9ru4ef2w 🤣🤣🤣🤣
i nearly fell of my chair during the dancing part my mum literlly asked if i was mentally and physicially ok lol hahahahahhahahaha
I need the full version of 4:22 😹 IT SOUNDS AMAZING
Is no one gonna mention how the bird grew another claw to play the guitar 1:57
Register that sorrow heartbreak pop song right now! This is so good!
Hilarious video, but you should check out Udio. Much better at classical stuff. I mean, it still sounds artificial but at least it's closer to the general orchestral vibes.
You guys should try udio!!
We want music video❤
An important aspect about AI that's often overlooked is that it requires lots and lots of energy. Especially videos. One estimate I found was that one minute of AI video takes as much as fully charging 1800 mobile phones. This energy needs to come from somewhere. Power plants etc. So this is turning into a matter of both climate change, in addition to taking away the human factor in art. Still impressed by the pop songs, though!
bro the dance moves go crazyyyy 🥶🥶
Looking forward to the mv
SenpAIs, notice me!
I would genuinely listen to the second pop song. They should make their own version of it.
Petition for Eddy to make the music video for the AI generated pop song - I need to see this 😂
4:44 "you will only witness this once"
right, i cant watch it more than once
Suno actually produces great classical music when prompted without a composer's name and describing the music. Like:
Baroque Cello/Violin basso-continuo Varied melodies Rhythmic Adventure rich Stern Reflective Staccato Sharp
Holy fawk, that party song is really fire :DD
Did you just do the sprinkler and the roo? Raygun paid you guys a homage
The Asian children's piano books 😅
TwoSet dance party is lit~~! 🔥🔥
I tried the Suno AI and I absolutely fell in love with the song it created. A dance/electonic trance pop party song about Classical Music. Brings me back to my nightcore phase LOL
This video made my day. You're the best! :)
Can u pls make ur videos longer
LMAO this is my fav video from now on!!!!!! Absolutely masterpiece of editor-san and Brett and Eddy funny af. The dancing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
YIPPEEEEE THEY POSTEDD!
Classical music is still undefeated 😤
"AI just smoke pop industry" ... YES, with the ability to understand natural language of AIs nowadays, lyrics is so easy for them to write. If pop melody is not complicated enough, even AI can write a great song that could express emotion and you couldn't tell it is artificial.
Wrong. Ai doesn’t understand lyrics or language, it just gives you some text output that is an approximation of what it has in its database. Also, music doesn’t “express” emotion, it contains it. And if you have close to 0 taste then you might indeed like the ersatz shit AI produces, but it can never be truly great, because it lacks the subtle emotional layers only humans can create. Most of music is generic, but great music is extraordinary, and AI can't do extraordinary at all, it's built to give you average, because there is just too little extraordinary art to train it, and more than that we cant load human memories, emotion and experience into AI, and that's exactly what makes artists and their art great.
@@markodern789 As a musician all my life who hates AI generated "art" (I am no technophobe), I _desperately_ hope you are right...
@@Zareh_Abrahamian the problem is not AI, but people like tohrumi who think that AI-generated art can be "great", even thought I'm not even sure that you can call it "art" to begin with.
@@markodern789 I am desperately looking for reassuring reasons that we can beat this human-created monster. While I don't have much hope, your comment gave me confirmation bias, but what you are not taking into account is the speed with which AI is perfecting itself. Terms like _emotion, feeling, greatness_ are all subjective. There will come a time where AI will have figured out all of that: I am witnessing the evolution in every iteration of the abomination. The day when AI generates original art and new styles is when we are done for real.
@@Zareh_Abrahamian You don't quite understand the topic, AI cannot understand emotion because it can't feel it, and feeling is exactly the source of true music. AI can't feel, therefore can't create real art but only a condensed, homogenised copy of information it has int's database that some person with underdeveloped taste would be fooled by. Considering the fact that AI requires Immense amounts of information, otherwise it's not producing anything meaningful, and scarcity of truly great art, AI is trained on mediocrity - because there is plenty of it, and what it can produce is only an imitation of that mediocrity, no matter how "professional" it might sound.
Also, it's not that optimistic on the technological front: most researchers are predicting a plateau, each iteration is requiring more and more time, money and computation exponentially. Don't underestimate the complexity of human brain, it's much more complex than any electronics we have, and it's going to stay that way for a long time.
bow in hand....but I still messed up 🤣
the Eddy Chou killed me 🤣🤣
2:58 the moment the AI vocals sang "bow in hand" as /bOW/ - like take a bow - i facepalmed SO HARD 🤦♀
*1 year later*
We are touring with classical music composed by AI
This episode was really fun.
Pretty sure that the two main reasons for AI being bad at classical music are A) the data and B) the training. All AI training works towards a goal. Typically some sort of ranking/evaluation process involved tries to detect whether the AI is doing a good job or not. Both the data AND the evaluation can be very opinionated, meaning that either the AI you tested here has not been trained on classical music very much or even if classical music has been part of the data set, the training favored results that where more pop-music focused. Sometimes this evaluation is actually done by humans, sometimes by other computers, but there is a good chance the evaluation wasn't focused on classical music, or just not informed enough on it (people who don't know much about classical music might evaluate the results way differently then you, who are experts). Famously ChatGPT has been trained to confidently state stuff, even if it's wrong, because the reviewers mostly favored a confident answer over a less confident one.
All in all, it's likely that this will keep improving but I guess there is less monetary interest in automating classical music and so it hasn't been focused on as much. That's actually the case with many smaller artforms that trail behind the main AI stuff, just because the interest (from big buisness) isn't as high.
Interestingly It's also funny that you considered the pop music really well done, while I'm sure professional producers would cringe at these songs. It's hard to fool experts with AI stuff for now. Let's hope that will stay true for some longer!
In fairness, if the main training set for this model is pop or pop-like music (much to pick from as you may imagine), then it is unlikely to do well in other genres. They should've tested other things that, while pop in structure, still have distinct unique elements like rap, or church chorals etc
I don't use AI to compose for the same reason that I don't use it to tell someone I love them. It's a finely tuned personal expression and I want it to be understood as such, so I want to be the one thinking. I don't want to fake it.
As someone who is also a lyricist, I like using it to get an idea of how I want a melody to sound around my words if I have nothing strong preemptively, however I agree it's pretty hollow to just call it on whatever it gives you and move on.
If I hear something from it that I can write around myself though, and take my own inspiration from it based on how the melodies make me feel, then all that's left is to build around that when composing myself. It's not a traditional way of writing a song, and not at all absolutely necessary, but I find that process fun personally.
Pop music seems to be dominating the world (mostly 2000s kids). Thanks TwoSetViolin for mocking the pop music lol
does anyone else want ai to stop advancing lol? i feel like we are just making ourselves irrelevant
1:29 omg i remmeber seeing this kid play that song like 10 years ago, i completely forgot abt him!
This had me 💀😂😂🤣
4:40 the dancing its so good pro dancer😂😂❤
This just go to show how wide the complexity gap between classical music and pop is. Even if Mozart looks simple, he REALLY is not
Tried making a double bass concerto in the style of Koussevitzky and it didn’t know what it was doing. Although there are harmonics 🧐
First they came for the pop musicians, and I did not speak out-because I was not a pop musician. Then they came for the broadway musicians, and I did not speak out-because I was not a broadway musician. Then they came for the classical musicians-and there was no one left to speak for me.