Can You Tell the Difference between AI and Human Composers?

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  • @mehmetefeozsahin4959
    @mehmetefeozsahin4959 Před 3 lety +5688

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  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY. Před 3 lety +4235

    TwoSetViolin in 20 years:
    *"Can we tell human composers from our superior AI composers?"*

    • @boopydoopy2695
      @boopydoopy2695 Před 3 lety +107

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    • @neeladward772
      @neeladward772 Před 3 lety +195

      Two set in twenty years:
      "This is very impressive if it's composed by a human"

    • @dabinx226
      @dabinx226 Před 3 lety +10

      Welcome back!

    • @monsieurvoid5587
      @monsieurvoid5587 Před 3 lety +10

      please don't forget to do a break before you're forced to by the internet mass :)

    • @CubsYT
      @CubsYT Před 3 lety +4

      Isn't that what this video is?

  • @thinkingfubuki
    @thinkingfubuki Před 3 lety +3159

    "Keep practicing, because that's what being human is all about." - Brett Yang, 2020

    • @subnatural5341
      @subnatural5341 Před 3 lety +79

      Meanwhile, AI practicing 40 hours a day.

    • @kayp1879
      @kayp1879 Před 3 lety +10

      He would like that on his tombstone after ai composes its 10th symphony and he dies

    • @CoenBijpost
      @CoenBijpost Před 3 lety +6

      D13g0 8ocan3gra so, more than 40 hours a day?

    • @G.T828
      @G.T828 Před 3 lety +8

      @@CoenBijpost A.I music is like expressing a Beethoven Symphony as variation of wave pressure . It's meaningless

    • @LauraRodriguez-fv1il
      @LauraRodriguez-fv1il Před 2 lety +3

      I read this at the same time brett was saying it lol

  • @KelnelK
    @KelnelK Před 3 lety +1882

    The weirder one is usually going to be the human. The AI learns what's normal and makes normal music. The human learns what's normal and tries to make music that sounds new and interesting.

    • @joostc4750
      @joostc4750 Před 3 lety +119

      You're quite optimistic about humans :-)

    • @tripodologia
      @tripodologia Před 2 lety +72

      Agree. Also, what seems interesting is that AIs don't seem to be that good at build ups; this was the clearest in the dark cinematic compositions in which tension and build up play a big role.

    • @johannsebastienbach
      @johannsebastienbach Před 2 lety +10

      Ai can only compose short phrases won't be able to develop without human assistance

    • @johannsebastienbach
      @johannsebastienbach Před 2 lety +6

      For me it's too easy to pick ai composers they r just not as good. Plus all the compositions here by ai we're just 'ai' assisted so it's basically fraudulent video

    • @Wynneception
      @Wynneception Před 2 lety +25

      That was how I was able to tell them apart. The human compositions were too weird and eccentric for a computer to have come up with them, no AI would make those choices, and like you could imagine all the human compositions conveying a specific actual mood/emotion/story in a dynamic plot beat rather than just existing for the sake of sounding how you expect something to sound. The only category that threw me off a bit was the last one where the human compositions were pretty conventional sounding (but good) film music and the AI did things that arguably didn't fit the category they had been put into.

  • @janua5093
    @janua5093 Před 3 lety +1574

    Child prodigy: Destroy musician's self esteem.
    AI: Destroy composer's self esteem.

    • @sora5127
      @sora5127 Před 3 lety +42

      @gJb 1 The name is literaly "artificial inteligence"

    • @8LyJu8
      @8LyJu8 Před 3 lety +3

      @@sora5127 but it still only develops compositions by been feed with sheet music. It can create out of nothing. At least yet (and possibly never, for security reasons).

    • @mapron1
      @mapron1 Před 3 lety +1

      ​@@sora5127 So what? That's historical artifact in the name :) Do you say "AI of coopas" in Mario games are intelligent being? So yes, there is no intelligence in Neural Networks.

    • @XerosOfficial
      @XerosOfficial Před 3 lety +9

      @@mapron1 That's false, the Koopas in the Mario Brothers franchise have pre-programmed behavior, Artificial intelligence, or more precisely a neural network comes to make its own decisions similar to the machinations of a human brain. At its core, human intelligence consists merely of a massive amount of neurons in the brain similar to booleans, which hold a positive/negative or true/false state. It is with enough of these neurons that humans can learn. While Neural networks have nowhere near the same amount of "neurons" as the human brain does, it doesn't need as many since neural networks are made only to specialize in a single topic, and at their core, operate and learn based on experience and the effects of previous decisions, psychologically the same way a human being does. If humans have intelligence, then a neural network should as well.

    • @XerosOfficial
      @XerosOfficial Před 3 lety +8

      @@8LyJu8 Isn't that the same for people. A person cannot create things out of nothing, if a human was born in an empty blank white world with nothing, it wouldn't be able to compose music either. If you gave that human sheet music, only then would it be possible for it to learn to compose.

  • @MaidenIronProwler
    @MaidenIronProwler Před 3 lety +2690

    It’s impressive that they got Batman feels just by listening to Hans Zimmer’s score, shows how well he composed The Dark Knight

    • @69mviewsnt
      @69mviewsnt Před 3 lety +56

      Zimmer's work.. you can really hear how he stay truth to the tempo. like REAAALLY hear it. or Feel it i guess. plus the Shepard tone that he loves to use

    • @Girthecraziest
      @Girthecraziest Před 3 lety +39

      I literally ran around my house because i was correct with the composer, film, and piece 😂😂😂😂

    • @pjbriggs5052
      @pjbriggs5052 Před 3 lety +2

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    • @user-uu5xf5xc2b
      @user-uu5xf5xc2b Před 3 lety +3

      I think because he listened to it earlier, you can hear unwanted music from everywhere in modern life

    • @gabrielazabache8822
      @gabrielazabache8822 Před 3 lety +30

      I recognized Zimmer too, from Dark Knight. What a composer...

  • @sergiosaucedo5834
    @sergiosaucedo5834 Před 3 lety +902

    I like how Hans Zimmer stands out so much that without question you can decide it was composed by a person.

    • @jenkinsfamily2229
      @jenkinsfamily2229 Před 3 lety +49

      That’s Zimmer for you! He’s (along with Williams) the Ling Ling of film scores

    • @dinospumoni5611
      @dinospumoni5611 Před 3 lety +35

      @@jenkinsfamily2229 Ennio Morricone bro

    • @lordpersius0322
      @lordpersius0322 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dinospumoni5611 dead

    • @snatch1838
      @snatch1838 Před 3 lety +19

      @@lordpersius0322 so? he was still one of the absolute best film composers of all time

    • @Auoric
      @Auoric Před 3 lety +4

      Ikr I felt the human hints in the cinematic parts because of listening to Zimmer

  • @samdabeast3186
    @samdabeast3186 Před 3 lety +86

    “This sounds like what you’d hear in a movie!”
    Yes that’s why it’s *cinematic* eddy

  • @tobyward2960
    @tobyward2960 Před 3 lety +1826

    Eddy: "it sounds like Batman"
    Me: Hans Zimmer did his job well then.
    Also, who else recognised it straight away...

    • @danayang7712
      @danayang7712 Před 3 lety +21

      I did! I was on a concert with him in november, and this took me right back.

    • @danayang7712
      @danayang7712 Před 3 lety +27

      I love Zimmers music! I did long before I knew who he is. I watched all the pirates of carribean-films over and over just because of the music 🤩🤩🤩

    • @wiqoyilislama
      @wiqoyilislama Před 3 lety +3

      I did too

    • @BoszoliChan
      @BoszoliChan Před 3 lety +2

      I did

    • @Cybornut
      @Cybornut Před 3 lety +21

      Two set doesn’t listen to soundtracks 😢😭

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    @twosetter Před 3 lety +963

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  • @CoenBijpost
    @CoenBijpost Před 3 lety +483

    The more it sounds familiar, the more likely it is to be AI. As it learns from us and has no creativity, it can only interpret its results based on already existing works.

    • @gwaynebrouwn844
      @gwaynebrouwn844 Před 3 lety +28

      Thats definetly True for now, but just seeing how fast ai is improving already, its only a matter of time until they will be able to create original masterpieces. Who knows, perhaps in 100 years, AI will be so good, Beethoven sounds boring. We dont know where technology brings us

    • @ZahnGamingx
      @ZahnGamingx Před 2 lety +26

      To be honest isn't that how modern composers make music? They take inspiration from other pieces of music and make their own version?

    • @EntelSidious_gamzeylmz
      @EntelSidious_gamzeylmz Před 2 lety +1

      That was literally soo apparent through all I really dont get how they didn't guess right.

    • @Shark-pj8in
      @Shark-pj8in Před rokem +1

      Not yet it doesn't.

    • @5566693
      @5566693 Před rokem +1

      oh that sounds exactly how human makes music

  • @rai2437
    @rai2437 Před 3 lety +714

    Don't worry Eddy. Human made AI, so basically that was composed by a human.

  • @colin6098
    @colin6098 Před 3 lety +780

    Sometimes they’re like 8 year old kids, but sometimes they’re just so talented

    • @taeyongspinkdrink6648
      @taeyongspinkdrink6648 Před 3 lety +3

      True

    • @miamochii321
      @miamochii321 Před 3 lety +52

      8 year old kids + talent = prodigy

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      @ProxGamerPlays Před 3 lety +1

      Prodigies

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      @Lavachai Před 3 lety +1

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  • @decouvrir-la-musique
    @decouvrir-la-musique Před 3 lety +820

    AI worker here: "AI Compositions" are actually super guided, and generally only provide the motif
    Moreover, the Ai will probably generate 20 of them, and a human will pick the nicest
    Musicians still have a couple of decades of employment ^^

    • @vdma20
      @vdma20 Před 3 lety +32

      Do you know any good resources on this? I would be really interested in learning more about what about an "AI composition" is actually done by the AI. The whole melody of the first AI composition, for example, was basically the same as an actual Christian hymn from 1641. That makes me wonder what the AI actually did.

    • @user-jh4gr1pq1w
      @user-jh4gr1pq1w Před 3 lety +27

      I'm obligated to explain that ia will take composers jobs, but musicians still have an advantage place because ia still play musical instruments like shit

    • @D3Z_animations
      @D3Z_animations Před 3 lety +5

      Theophilus check out The Video from Nvidia about Aiva, they explain

    • @TheMrCarnification
      @TheMrCarnification Před 3 lety +93

      I'd like to add to that, common techniques make AI by immitating humans, meaning the result will lean towards a more normal sounding music, maintaining a musical idea and smoothly developing on it without major changes.
      6:43 "It doesn't know where it's going", exactly, an AI would know where it was going, because it would go pretty much nowhere (this is made more clear with longer pieces). The weird transitions at 6:20 - 6:40 are made by a human experimenting with wild transitions and not by AI trying to replicate what most humans would usually do, because "weird" isn't usually done.
      Take the piece at 6:00 that confused Eddy, it is really good and it sounds like "love", but the thing is.. love is a *very* common theme so an AI would be able to replicate somewhat accurately, also the piece mantains the same musical idea all the way through, which is very consistent with an AI that doesn't take risks. Btw, about the weirdly bright part of the AI piece at 9:10, an AI doesn't know why we do stuff, so it may misplace musical ideas it's seen before but doesn't quite understand, nice catch on twoset's side.
      PS: I know there are methods to develop AI that attempt to be creative and to intentionally do things humans usually don't and a dataset with wild experimental pieces would result in an unconventional AI, but in this case it was obvious that they tried to make the AI imitate and not innovate.

    • @yenchong9218
      @yenchong9218 Před 3 lety +5

      I feel some sense of relief then. whew... I guess.

  • @rohanupadhyay1810
    @rohanupadhyay1810 Před 3 lety +84

    10:30 I’m so relieved they recognized Hans Zimmer’s skills

  • @camila-uc4ce
    @camila-uc4ce Před 3 lety +82

    "if this is ai i will..."
    famous last words

    • @baguette3975
      @baguette3975 Před 3 lety

      Can i have that cinematic 3 piece name?

    • @baguette3975
      @baguette3975 Před 3 lety

      Can i have that cinematic 3 piece name?

  • @dabinx226
    @dabinx226 Před 3 lety +639

    Last video they got self esteem -10000000, now they're back at it again.

    • @user-mo7ww1gq6n
      @user-mo7ww1gq6n Před 3 lety

      Yes?

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    • @nunyabusiness8498
      @nunyabusiness8498 Před 3 lety

      Nah they said they learned.

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  • @agirres
    @agirres Před 3 lety +1228

    *Baroque 1:* AI
    *Baroque 2:* BWV 721 · J.S. Bach
    *Romantic 1:* AI
    *Romantic 2:* Blanik (Má Vlast) · Boston Symphony Orchestra · Rafael Kubelik
    *Cinematic 1:* Pursuit (From "Epic" OST) · Danny Elfman · Pete Anthony
    *Cinematic 2:* AI
    *Cinematic 3:* AI (A common humanity · AIVA Technologies)
    *Cinematic 4:* Alarms (From "Epic" OST) · Danny Elfman · Pete Anthony
    *Dark Cinematic 1:* Night Mission in Venice (From Assassin's Creed II OST) · Jesper Kyd
    *Dark Cinematic 2:* AI (A call to arms · AIVA Technologies)
    *Dark Cinematic 3:* A Dark Knight · Hans Zimmer & James Newton Howard
    *Dark Cinematic 4:* AI (Midnight Sun · Aiva · Aiva Sinfonietta Orchestra · Brad Frey)
    Help complete the list :) (Thanks to sebasgverde, Tigershortfoot and Deepanshi Matai)

    • @deepanshimatai2926
      @deepanshimatai2926 Před 3 lety +43

      Dark Cinematic 1 is Night Mission in Venice by Jesper Kyd from Assassin's Creed II OST

    • @angels5449
      @angels5449 Před 3 lety +12

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    • @schizo5189
      @schizo5189 Před 3 lety +7

      Cinematic 3 is AI

    • @tigershortfoot6196
      @tigershortfoot6196 Před 3 lety +24

      Baroque is BWV 721. Great piece.

    • @angels5449
      @angels5449 Před 3 lety +6

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  • @julianrubinstein8499
    @julianrubinstein8499 Před 2 lety +47

    Imagine being a human, writing a film score, then having that score described as "convincing"

  • @moriahruiz2490
    @moriahruiz2490 Před 3 lety +46

    I replayed Eddy's, "Nah nah nah" at least 8 different times.

  • @musicblossom5512
    @musicblossom5512 Před 3 lety +495

    Eddy: if this is not human, I will...
    Me: prac-
    Eddy: I will become batman
    Me: ...well that’s new.

    • @JW-ws4op
      @JW-ws4op Před 3 lety +6

      It's because that piece of music was literally from the Batman soundtrack.

    • @leihaanaak6192
      @leihaanaak6192 Před 3 lety +13

      @@JW-ws4op i think u missed the joke...

  • @user-uu5xf5xc2b
    @user-uu5xf5xc2b Před 3 lety +842

    "There is 1 imposter among us"
    Eddy : first piece
    "The first piece is not The Imposter"

    • @geethaprem580
      @geethaprem580 Před 3 lety +10

      Among us gang.

    • @G.T828
      @G.T828 Před 3 lety +4

      A.I music is like expressing a Beethoven Symphony as variation of wave pressure . It's meaningless

    • @men_del12
      @men_del12 Před 3 lety +2

      1 impasta?
      *laughing uglyly*
      You fool.
      THERE MORE IMPASTAS AMONG US!!!!!!!!!!
      *terminator genysis theme starts playing*
      *O Fortuna lyrics start vibing*

    • @gifzwerk
      @gifzwerk Před 3 lety +1

      AMOGUS

  • @sadiemcc9363
    @sadiemcc9363 Před 3 lety +187

    I found it very easy to differentiate, particularly for the cinematic. The AI ones didn't have the same range of emotions, and the third one sounded too much like John Williams, making me think the AI was given Williams' scores to study.

    • @mercy5056
      @mercy5056 Před 3 lety +7

      agreed 👌🏼

    • @nurainiarsad7395
      @nurainiarsad7395 Před 2 lety +7

      The cinematic ones were easier for me, got them all right. For me it was easy because the human compositions feel like a story, something is happening and you can sense it. The ones I thought were AI are really good at reproducing the music of cinema but there isn’t a story flow I can sense; they’re either stagnant or the flow doesn’t fit.
      That said, I also got the non cinematic ones right too even though I can’t say why.

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland Před rokem

      You mean, was the AI given Korngold's scores to study

  • @joshuahung5940
    @joshuahung5940 Před 3 lety +48

    Alternative title: Among Us: Classical Music Edition

  • @simpbelius
    @simpbelius Před 3 lety +450

    when the fear of prodigies aren't still over, but the AI composers are already coming

    • @charmaine7781
      @charmaine7781 Před 3 lety +12

      Okay.......I'VE HAD IT WITH THOSE ROBOTS!

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    • @justicewasserved17
      @justicewasserved17 Před 3 lety +4

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    • @charmaine7781
      @charmaine7781 Před 3 lety +2

      @@justicewasserved17 Yes I've noticed that too

    • @magdielburdiles.2000
      @magdielburdiles.2000 Před 3 lety +8

      Just wait for the AI prodigies.

  • @izzy1221
    @izzy1221 Před 3 lety +445

    I think the ‘Is it composed by AI?’ Could be the Twoset community’s version of the ‘Is it cake?’ Meme.

  • @vlaire3376
    @vlaire3376 Před 3 lety +35

    I think something that gave away that the cinematic one (the one eddy called love) is that it sounds like it took Harry Potter bits and it feels like it has been fed Harry Potter and Lord Of the Rings scores to produce this piece idk why

  • @perfectbidoof7541
    @perfectbidoof7541 Před 3 lety +23

    That was straight up Hans Zimmer's Batman score for Dark Cinematic #3

  • @zoec989
    @zoec989 Před 3 lety +172

    Long ago the musicians lived together in harmony, then everything changed when the AI attacked. Only ling ling, master of all instruments could stop them, but when the world needed them most, they were practicing 40 hours.

    • @tanvik8421
      @tanvik8421 Před 3 lety +15

      My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, a time of peace when Ling Ling maintained balance between the musicians and the AI. But that all changed when the AI attacked.

    • @korumogl
      @korumogl Před 3 lety +8

      A 100 years past and my brother and I discovered the new Ling ling, a violinist named Ling ling althout his violin skills are great he has a lot to practice before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe he can save the world!

    • @PurpleAuri
      @PurpleAuri Před 3 lety +1

      Wow, that's would be a very insteresting backstory for a video game

    • @Karma-oz2gm
      @Karma-oz2gm Před 3 lety +1

      Read this in the dark cinematic part

    • @tanvik8421
      @tanvik8421 Před 3 lety +1

      @@PurpleAuri its the Avatar the Last Airbender opening

  • @fen17072010
    @fen17072010 Před 3 lety +143

    At this point im jus enjoying the music. I gave up differentiating between ai and human😂

  • @WeebusDweebus
    @WeebusDweebus Před 3 lety +184

    The thing about music is that it's based on emotion, soul, feelings, senses, nature, beauty, and so many other things an AI will never replicate perfectly. Robots can beat us in math, in sports, in stamina, in endurance, in accuracy, but they will never (At least not anytime soon) take over the musical spirit which makes us human.
    Edit: I watched the video, now I wanna die

    • @johnuferbach9166
      @johnuferbach9166 Před 3 lety +16

      I mean replicating the general style of whats already there in a genre really isn't that hard i'd guess... lots of training data to be had^^

    • @planetary-rendez-vous
      @planetary-rendez-vous Před 3 lety +7

      I welcome our new AI overlords

    • @Estadistica-Matematica-Labs
      @Estadistica-Matematica-Labs Před 3 lety +17

      Mmm that statement is more something you would like to belive than something factually true.

    • @thezombiesatemyhomework7412
      @thezombiesatemyhomework7412 Před rokem

      God I feel this as an artist as well. The only thing that makes me feel even remotely better is the simple face that *we* made it. The composition of an AI is a form of art in and of itself. When an AI creates with all the combined knowledge and skill that's been poured into our art and music it is little more than humanity writing a love letter to its history through a new medium.
      Hard copium... I know lol.

    • @lianrobintribunal484
      @lianrobintribunal484 Před 5 měsíci

      are AI robots real or fake

  • @wafers2682
    @wafers2682 Před 3 lety +161

    Twoset: This sounds like batman
    Me: Thats because it is batman

  • @apophis588
    @apophis588 Před 3 lety +254

    Gonna be honest, they should’ve put bretts lofi for the last dark cinematic

  • @daliamae3430
    @daliamae3430 Před 3 lety +249

    Ok guys, it's official. Eddy doesn't believe in love anymore

  • @jpark8323
    @jpark8323 Před 3 lety +53

    Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but if u guys ever do a show reaction again, could you do “Do you like Brahms?” It’s a very recent kdrama written by a writer who went to music university so I heard that they put in a lot of factors they’ve went through in school so I think it would be interesting to see your thoughts on it. :)

    • @kuroroedamame
      @kuroroedamame Před 3 lety +2

      Omg yes yes yes i want to watch that kdrama bc of trailer (they put rach 2 😭🥺 ) but romance-genre drama is not a cup of my tea sooooo idk 😶

    • @jpark8323
      @jpark8323 Před 3 lety

      illumillu killuallu Oh yes it does have romance but what I like about it is that it’s not like in your face romance but more of relatable romance? So it doesn’t stick out too much? (If that makes sense 😂) And there’s many other stories too about the competitions, professors, and orchestras so it’s definitely interesting.

    • @kuroroedamame
      @kuroroedamame Před 3 lety

      @@jpark8323 wow thats interesting story, thanks for your review ❤ i think i'm gonna watch it 👀👀

    • @jpark8323
      @jpark8323 Před 3 lety +1

      @@kuroroedamame ommmgggggg

  • @hapredy
    @hapredy Před 3 lety +18

    somewhere in an alternate universe where the billboard charts has songs like "AI Marry - 203" and "AI Tom - 596"

  • @baswagemakers5699
    @baswagemakers5699 Před 3 lety +344

    You know whats funny?
    At 9:34 they say it's sounded like batman but in fact it really is the batman theme from the dark knight from Hans Zimmer

    • @paulinatlaka9932
      @paulinatlaka9932 Před 3 lety +26

      What was more funny? After 5-6 sec. my first thought was "Hey! It's Hans Zimmer Batman or The last samurai" - And I was immeditely checking comments for answers :D damn, i'm so good at this (joke) :D

    • @nurhanna4705
      @nurhanna4705 Před 3 lety

      That's what I was thinking

    • @vishnuhalikere2151
      @vishnuhalikere2151 Před 3 lety +7

      Exactly! Not hating at all but I was so shocked when they couldn't tell this was from Dark Knight and written by Hans Zimmer

    • @emilyesnyman
      @emilyesnyman Před 3 lety +2

      @Satu Lehto Hans Zimmer is a legend, both are great scores

    • @cycosmic483
      @cycosmic483 Před 3 lety +5

      yea, i recognized it instantly and got so mad on the inside that they didnt xD the piece is so fking good!

  • @violingling7256
    @violingling7256 Před 3 lety +108

    "If an AI can make love...."-Eddy Chen 2020

  • @prashantrao5110
    @prashantrao5110 Před 3 lety +18

    10:30 - TwoSetViolin also approves Hans Zimmer... This made my day!!

  • @EG-cm5th
    @EG-cm5th Před 3 lety +17

    Editor-san: "Let's see how many mood-setting special effects we can fit into a single video"

  • @eyekosaeder5387
    @eyekosaeder5387 Před 3 lety +288

    Eddy: *mentions Lord of the Rings*
    Me: “[…] there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo… and it’s worth fighting for.”

  • @angelicatea5728
    @angelicatea5728 Před 3 lety +376

    the last time I was this early lamentable wasn't even a thing yet

    • @gaminglegend
      @gaminglegend Před 3 lety +8

      the last time I was this early ling ling wasn't even a thing yet

    • @b0ba_bob
      @b0ba_bob Před 3 lety +1

      ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ

    • @ManiacMemes
      @ManiacMemes Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/fvNV_2D1Az4/video.html
      honestly, the best commercial ever

    • @ManiacMemes
      @ManiacMemes Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/fvNV_2D1Az4/video.html
      so underrated

    • @troy5094
      @troy5094 Před 3 lety +1

      i read that as “last time i was this early i wasn’t lamentable yet” at first sight

  • @DHawkBeats
    @DHawkBeats Před 3 lety +77

    I feel like a good judge for this is how “quirky” the piece is. An AI will follow its programming and therefore won’t deviate too far from the normal, whereas a human has real creativity and will go outside of the box to make a creative piece

    • @nadadada3938
      @nadadada3938 Před 2 lety +1

      Necrocommenting, but it's not following a programming, depending on the algorithm is creating variation and recognizing patterns (much like we do), it won't have the intent to create something (don't have an objective outside creating the music) but it some algorithm you can recognize the pieces and composition patterns that arises, leaving to the user the intent that was mean per section/whole piece.
      It will follow references, and the more data (and the approach of teaching you use) the better or worse will be (Like us)

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland Před rokem +1

      Case in point being Brett's take on Mozart's Requiem's Lacrimosa

  • @gabipm95
    @gabipm95 Před 3 lety +19

    Hey guys! I'm from Brazil and I'm turning 25 next week.. just bought a violin and started practicing! Found out about your channel by searching for ways to learn... You guys are awesome! I can already tell it's really really hard to play, but you make it look worth it! Thanks for your videos, I have so much fun watching them! 😘

    • @sebastiano728
      @sebastiano728 Před 2 lety +2

      How's your violin-playing now, a year later?

    • @bumi5504
      @bumi5504 Před rokem

      @@sebastiano728 how about now?

  • @user-zx2xg5jz8d
    @user-zx2xg5jz8d Před 3 lety +85

    Roasts today: Damn bro your intonation is off
    Roasts in the future: Bro you sound like a human

  • @perfectoperations3008
    @perfectoperations3008 Před 3 lety +259

    Eddy: "4 is Human. AI cannot compose something so beautiful."
    AI: Let's see about that.

  • @MrVvulf
    @MrVvulf Před 3 lety +23

    I remember when computers couldn't beat humans in chess. Those days are around 30 years behind us. In another 30 years, computers will be capable of so much... So exciting in many ways, but also a bit worrisome.

  • @bigmac51290
    @bigmac51290 Před 3 lety +19

    The second cinematic was definitely made from John Williams compositions.

    • @9812Kati
      @9812Kati Před 3 lety +1

      "Either its John Williams Star Wars and I just dont know the star wars soundtrack well enough, or it sound like star wars because an AI learned from star wars."

  • @rbkhru
    @rbkhru Před 3 lety +82

    "I feel confident but I'm doubting myself." - Eddy
    Never felt so conflicted as Eddy is.

    • @ManiacMemes
      @ManiacMemes Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/fvNV_2D1Az4/video.html
      honestly, the best commercial ever

  • @waterdrinker_
    @waterdrinker_ Před 3 lety +125

    "I'm not a musician anymore"
    Midroll
    "I'm a Verizon wireless engineer"

  • @daliasnoll
    @daliasnoll Před 3 lety

    It's the first time I partake so much in your youtube videos. I felt as if I was searching with you guys. And I must admit, your effects helped.

  • @michaelhillhouse3751
    @michaelhillhouse3751 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video! More of these!!

  • @Namite0001
    @Namite0001 Před 3 lety +32

    "I wanna believe in love" -Eddy Chen, 2020, moments before destruction

  • @chia-iho
    @chia-iho Před 3 lety +115

    brett and eddy: diss cinematic music
    also brett and eddy to all of the pieces: wow this is really good

  • @maciejgrinholc8749
    @maciejgrinholc8749 Před 3 lety +11

    1:38
    Twoset: First is human, second is computer
    Organ gang:🤦

    • @asherrove
      @asherrove Před 3 lety

      Whats the name of the piece

    • @maciejgrinholc8749
      @maciejgrinholc8749 Před 3 lety +3

      Asher Rove J. S. Bach ,,Erbarme dich mein, O Herre Gott” BWV 721 :D

  • @LeHeartly
    @LeHeartly Před 3 lety

    Funny you mention supporting you guys with twosetapparel because today is my birthday and this morning I treated myself to your selection lol. I was bummed that the pink hoodie was out of stock but I'll be sure to come back when it its in stock again. Really love the clothing line so much!

  • @imnotafreakinvampire
    @imnotafreakinvampire Před 3 lety +166

    Dear Brett.
    Please don’t make me question my existence while I’m in the middle of my exam week.
    Thanks.
    Sincerely,
    One girl who is studying for the solfege exam she has in some minutes.

  • @kendalm550
    @kendalm550 Před 3 lety +495

    Twoset: "Accent the like button and legato the subscribe button."
    Me, a rebellious teenager who needs to practice: *sforzandos the like button and slurrs the subscribe button*

  • @tonypapas9854
    @tonypapas9854 Před 3 lety

    This is one of my favorite TwoSetViolin videos.. So funny and interesting at the same time.

  • @mariapandolfo8635
    @mariapandolfo8635 Před 3 lety +6

    "The second one sounds so weird and not baroque"... That's Bach for you! 🖤

    • @lindacowles756
      @lindacowles756 Před 3 lety +4

      I don't think it sounds weird at all. Just incredibly and spiritual.

    • @mariapandolfo8635
      @mariapandolfo8635 Před 3 lety +2

      True that! I just meant weird but in a good way :)

  • @archelynwolf
    @archelynwolf Před 3 lety +153

    "Our jobs are being taken away," -- Eddy, a CZcams Music Comedian

    • @suchethemmanuel4902
      @suchethemmanuel4902 Před 3 lety +1

      Well.......
      I Guess 😂😂

    • @ManiacMemes
      @ManiacMemes Před 3 lety

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      honestly, the best commercial ever

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      @HhHh-ev2zz Před 3 lety

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      honestly, the best commercial ever

    • @hirandompeopled4968
      @hirandompeopled4968 Před 3 lety +2

      Maniac Memes is this a bot

    • @susanbryant6516
      @susanbryant6516 Před 3 lety +2

      Yes, I’m reporting it continuously!

  • @douglastan4758
    @douglastan4758 Před 3 lety +279

    We don’t know what’s real anymore. 2020 is officially cancelled.

    • @vanadium8865
      @vanadium8865 Před 3 lety +1

      Honestly, 2020 being cancelled would be a good thing

    • @graziacavasino8884
      @graziacavasino8884 Před 3 lety

      @@vanadium8865 yeah but we don't know what 2021 will be like; it may be even worse, so maybe we'd stick to 2020 till it lasts.

    • @christianebbertz7057
      @christianebbertz7057 Před 3 lety

      Let the AI try to make more then 35 seconds of interesting music - nothing than BS comes out.

  • @Hello-ds4jv
    @Hello-ds4jv Před 3 lety

    I found this channel from my chorus class, AND I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!

  • @Roozyj
    @Roozyj Před 3 lety +6

    I knew Brett would get the dark cinematic one right. He has a weird talent for horror film music xD

  • @amitlanis3104
    @amitlanis3104 Před 3 lety +569

    As an composer and an ai learner, this was pretty clear which is human and which is computer (expect cinematic 4 that had a few unpredictable note, i think it a little bit of randomised algorithm when the ai didn't knew who to continue)
    The ai had a number simple motivs and he transposed them to fit the chosen continues chord, he had basically shafled the motives together, and it was easy enough to separate them into a melody mixed together.
    The humans has less melodys and they managed to make out of each one of them a lot more.
    Also the ai had a few Voice leading rules that made it clear that it is an ai, he could not made a single doubling of the third in the chord or parallel fifth melodic line, something that the humans was not afraid to do.

    • @johannah4770
      @johannah4770 Před 3 lety +65

      I understood practically nothing of your analysis, but if you really could tell the human and the ai compositions apart, that's impressive.

    • @yumpatMEOW
      @yumpatMEOW Před 3 lety +56

      ​@@johannah4770 Basically AI mash together different patterns that go well together while humans tend to use less patterns and build upon them. I was able to guess all right with a cheat: Try to ignore the melody altogether and listen for the "left hand", the bassline, the supprting and accompanying part of the music. You will notice all AI tracks lack a feeling of intention, depth, or forward motion, like there's always something more to be desired. Perhaps with more time given AI will eventually learn to compose the bassline too.

    • @johannah4770
      @johannah4770 Před 3 lety +19

      @@yumpatMEOW I don't think that's cheating. That's just using your knowledge of typical AI's.

    • @KelnelK
      @KelnelK Před 3 lety +43

      I'm a programmer who works with AI and is interested in music and I also got them all right except for the last one. Basically the music that sounds the most predictable, standard, and formulaic is the AI and the music with more risks and surprises is human. Eddy kept trying to pick the one that he found more beautiful but that's not really a good strategy because obviously the only compositions that will be played by the orchestra are the beautiful ones, whether they're composed by humans or AI.

    • @jozefbania
      @jozefbania Před 3 lety +4

      You need to create AEI ( artificial emotional intelligence it will feel pain when loss and ecstasy when win and all other bits and nibbles ) but this will happen in 2034.

  • @thathatboy.
    @thathatboy. Před 3 lety +67

    Brett hasn't slept well again ! He needs to sleep .
    *Petition for Brett to sleep 8 hours a day .*
    Look at his hair and eyes too 👀

  • @BenTajer89
    @BenTajer89 Před 3 lety

    The editing is amazing!

  • @lisakatame2369
    @lisakatame2369 Před 3 lety +7

    2:32 eddy chan 2020 : is consciousness just 1's and 0's ?

  • @vanilla5576
    @vanilla5576 Před 3 lety +299

    Friend: I'm calling, I have some tea to spill.
    Me: Give me about 12 minutes, something important I have to do.
    Friend: Okay take your time. Call me when ur done.
    *30 mins later*
    Friend: 12 minutes huh?
    Me: Sorry I didn't know I was gonna take such a tricky exam

  • @eliskaneugebauer5338
    @eliskaneugebauer5338 Před 3 lety +158

    Hans Zimmer.. even tho he is "just" a cinematic composer he is sooo good and recognisable. Love his scores 🖤
    Btw the "romantic - human" one was Blaník by Bedřich Smetana

    • @davidbrussard-composer7372
      @davidbrussard-composer7372 Před 3 lety +33

      The fact that they got Batman feels from just hearing the music shows just how well Hans Zimmer scored for The Dark Knight Trilogy. Love his work.

    • @emilyesnyman
      @emilyesnyman Před 3 lety +1

      @@davidbrussard-composer7372 indeed it's absolutely amazing!

    • @momotozaki
      @momotozaki Před 3 lety +2

      Hans Zimmer is definitely one of my favourite "cinematic" composers. Oof. I love every single ost of his.

    • @mara_mori
      @mara_mori Před 3 lety +2

      Wait..his last name is "sour cream"?... I mean the music is wonderful but his last name made me laugh

    • @maritinooben9270
      @maritinooben9270 Před 3 lety

      @@mara_mori In which language? Btw it just means room in German.

  • @marikapatsa7641
    @marikapatsa7641 Před 3 lety

    I love the editing on this video xD

  • @MitchBoucherComposer
    @MitchBoucherComposer Před 3 lety

    I love videos like these.

  • @jakeenders7
    @jakeenders7 Před 3 lety +348

    “I’m not gay. I just like Brett, there’s a difference.”

  • @jellymotionorigami7991
    @jellymotionorigami7991 Před 3 lety +146

    Anything you can do, a computer can.
    Composers in 2010: pfff
    Composers now: * sweats*

    • @HhHh-ev2zz
      @HhHh-ev2zz Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/fvNV_2D1Az4/video.html
      honestly, the best commercial ever

    • @jellymotionorigami7991
      @jellymotionorigami7991 Před 3 lety

      @@HhHh-ev2zz It is funny for some reason I don't know why.

  • @Zsledge
    @Zsledge Před 3 lety +4

    I just wanted to compliment the editor for the smoky shadow effect that was cast onto the walls during the 3rd Dark Cinematic. Kudos to you. It made me smile haha. 9:34 for those of you looking for it.

  • @siewkiongwong5482
    @siewkiongwong5482 Před 2 lety

    I really like this video! I want to see more of it!

  • @hoangthuytienly6586
    @hoangthuytienly6586 Před 3 lety +80

    Alternative title: Two classical musicians watch their jobs getting taken in 12 minutes and 42 seconds

  • @ivanalau8878
    @ivanalau8878 Před 3 lety +171

    "I'm batman and I'm gonna join the dark side. "
    star war fans: ................excuse ME??

    • @ssbhide123
      @ssbhide123 Před 3 lety +2

      Chill. He meant Darkseid ;-)

  • @lauterunvollkommenheit4344

    Yes. The writing's on the wall. And I'm looking forward to being able to listen to new Bach cantatas, Haydn symphonies, Schubert string quartets, and a lot of new music!

  • @saitama9962
    @saitama9962 Před 3 lety

    Yay another motivation to practice

  • @theowoo
    @theowoo Před 3 lety +174

    The baroque human piece is BWV721. It sounded "weird" to them because that note right before they stopped the clip the first time is a semitone higher than it should be, I believe (at least based on the recording I am familiar with, as well as another one I just found on CZcams.)

    • @AlejandroGonzalez-rw9kt
      @AlejandroGonzalez-rw9kt Před 3 lety +12

      theowoo they actually preferred an AI piece over a Bach piece, humanity is losing ground

    • @theowoo
      @theowoo Před 3 lety +33

      @@AlejandroGonzalez-rw9kt they did. But what I'm saying is I believe that Bach piece wasn't represented in the best light. Maybe that threw them off. :)

    • @AlejandroGonzalez-rw9kt
      @AlejandroGonzalez-rw9kt Před 3 lety +1

      @@theowoo true. and anyway, that is not one of the greatest Bach pieces

    • @user-74652
      @user-74652 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AlejandroGonzalez-rw9kt I personally like that piece. I guess one aspect of it is that the chorale tune it is based on seems to be in Phrygian mode.

    • @orb3796
      @orb3796 Před 3 lety +4

      @@AlejandroGonzalez-rw9kt They didn't prefer the AI piece, they were guessing which piece sounded more baroque

  • @amrutatadinada4255
    @amrutatadinada4255 Před 3 lety +48

    Musicians: Work for years and years to get good at playing their instrument and more
    AI technology: Time to take the musicians job...

  • @isabelapinheiro5798
    @isabelapinheiro5798 Před 3 lety +5

    Hey!! I just want to say that I started cello lessons when I was 20 years old and part of the decision of learning a classical instrument was because of you guys (by the way I'm 23 now)
    Cello gang #practice

  • @JSerrato289
    @JSerrato289 Před 3 lety +6

    lmao the one they said sounded like batman was actually from Batman Begins by Hans Zimmer

  • @israelcaneca
    @israelcaneca Před 3 lety +65

    "and remember to keep practicing because that's what being human is all about"
    I really wanna see their faces when they discover that AI's actually practice way more than 40 hours a day

  • @FerolanLP
    @FerolanLP Před 3 lety +896

    So, I just want to be a calm voice of reason, but AI is not able to create such music with out standing on the shoulders of giants. The thing is, to tell a neural net how to compose things like that, we give him as much data as possible, so the neural network is able to learn, recognize and (re)create certain pattern. All a neural network does is follow the given rules it learned about the Training data.
    An AI is not able to create new rules or be the next step in the evolution of music, because it can´t think about music in the same way we do, it doesn´t have emotions, or an understanding what it does and why it does it. for a neural network, all it knows is, "for that given input, I return that value". So yeah a computer can write amazing classical and romantic symphonies but it is not able to create the next epoch of music.
    Well, not alone. That is, what we need composers for.

    • @anne-pr1mp
      @anne-pr1mp Před 3 lety +54

      I was kinda thinking the same thing! Especially for the cinematic categories, the AI ones seemed a little predictable, and a lot like compositions I’ve already heard. The human ones had a little something more that gave them more depth. And especially the third dark cinematic one had more emotion and suspense than the AI ones were able to convey.

    • @pandadncr4825
      @pandadncr4825 Před 3 lety +1

      Very well said!

    • @lekebabfrancais9018
      @lekebabfrancais9018 Před 3 lety +2

      @@anne-pr1mp I was so confused though, because it sounded so much like Hans Zimmer, then I checked and I'm pretty sure it is :D

    • @TechnoMinarchist
      @TechnoMinarchist Před 3 lety +35

      Humans aren't able to create the amazing music that we've made over the last few centuries either without standing on the shoulders of giants.

    • @MonzennCarloMallari
      @MonzennCarloMallari Před 3 lety +29

      What AI does nowadays is to discover rules or patterns that humans have not yet discovered. It's less about AI inventing rules, but it's more like life has so many rules or patterns that humanity will not be able to comprehend all of them.
      And it's weird to call them rules or patterns because most of it is going to be connections that humans will not understand. So long as it fits an end result, AI will follow it.
      So I'll modify your statement a bit: AI is not bound by rules: it's bound by outcomes.

  • @uncreativenessatitsfinest4968

    I love cinematic 4 and I love anything dark cinematic so yeah I freaking LOVE all of the dark ones. Nice vid

  • @jaredstearns6013
    @jaredstearns6013 Před 2 lety

    You guys are hilarious I love your channel!

  • @hydrangea510
    @hydrangea510 Před 3 lety +30

    Imagine ppl mistaking your piece for some AI-made arrangement 🔥🔥🔥

    • @mellowknee
      @mellowknee Před 3 lety +6

      That's what Ling Ling Insurance is for

  • @mr.alberteinsteine-_-mc2735

    The 3rd cinematic one sounds like the Harry Potter theme if you change the notes little. Im sure that the AI took it from there

    • @jaredreynolds813
      @jaredreynolds813 Před 3 lety +7

      I agree. Sounds like they fed the AI a lot of John Williams for that one.

    • @ShikumiCV
      @ShikumiCV Před 3 lety +2

      That’s what I made me think it was AI, it sounded like Harry Potter cut short.

    • @aidaacrs
      @aidaacrs Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly my thought. I was like, it sounds Harry Potter but it is WRONG.

  • @chex1819
    @chex1819 Před 3 lety

    hi brett and eddy today is my birthdayyy! you guys have inspired me so much and i love you 🥺💞💞

  • @emma_ametist
    @emma_ametist Před 3 lety

    The cinematic no 3 made me cry, since it was sooo beautiful, and therefore I felt exactly as Eddie when the answer was reveiled. I will no longer believe someone is actually the composer anymore without seeing at least a video of the composing being done BY HAND and instrument.

  • @calgordusrexus3955
    @calgordusrexus3955 Před 3 lety +48

    Me: aight time for some Bach.
    *Terminator theme starts playing*

    • @Kekoapono
      @Kekoapono Před 3 lety +1

      The Terminator Theme is fantastic! I would totally put that theme in a playlist alongside Bach.

  • @vivianw.4291
    @vivianw.4291 Před 3 lety +75

    Plot twist: Their "friend" was an AI

    • @nuppup
      @nuppup Před 3 lety

      Plot twist: That very first one was composed by Bach
      czcams.com/video/sFw6IDdmm9s/video.html
      czcams.com/video/DTpVFx2hsmo/video.html

  • @gay-ymcgayface9636
    @gay-ymcgayface9636 Před 3 lety +27

    props to editor-san for making a video of two guys sitting in chairs and hardly doing anything look iNtEeReStiNg

  • @philip2205
    @philip2205 Před 9 měsíci

    Here on the 3 year anniversary of the video! It was great!

  • @aero-sumit2056
    @aero-sumit2056 Před 3 lety +249

    wait.... they didn't noticed Hans Zimmer's music. that's sacrilegious.

    • @CARBONATED_SO-DA
      @CARBONATED_SO-DA Před 3 lety +17

      Lamentable.

    • @user-uu5xf5xc2b
      @user-uu5xf5xc2b Před 3 lety +15

      No, it's not.

    • @KFishproductionII
      @KFishproductionII Před 3 lety +9

      Hans Zimmer bribes his students to make the music for him, so its understandable

    • @mrsb50
      @mrsb50 Před 3 lety +21

      Koifish production I’m not sure that’s how bribery works 😂

    • @Killerbee4712
      @Killerbee4712 Před 3 lety +2

      @@KFishproductionII teaching isnt bribing

  • @pratyushbzr
    @pratyushbzr Před 3 lety +25

    Last time I was this early, Guiness still counted the Fastest Violinist Record to be viable

  • @okavango5937
    @okavango5937 Před 3 lety

    Guys this episode of yours I liked most. After work & work &work, I could chill out and have a really good laugh! Sincerely yours, AI

  • @jacktseng8129
    @jacktseng8129 Před 2 lety

    I like these series!!!
    Purely feel, sense the emotion of music and tell which one is created by Human or AI
    Challenging, and also Interesting and enjoying ~~
    keep going 😄