Bruce Riedel An Impossible Partnership?: Pakistan, America and the Future of South Asia
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- Bruce Riedel is senior fellow and director of the Brookings Intelligence Project, part of Brookings' new Center for 21st Century Security and Intelligence. Riedel also serves as a senior fellow in the Saban Center for Middle East Policy.
Riedel joined Brookings following a 30-year career at the Central Intelligence Agency, a tenure which included multiple overseas postings. He served as a senior advisor to the last four U.S. presidents on South Asia and the Middle East, working as a senior member of the National Security Council. In the 1990s, Riedel also served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for the Near East and South Asia at the Pentagon and a senior advisor at the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in Brussels. A member of President Bill Clinton's Middle East negotiating team, Riedel took part in the Camp David peace negotiations, as well as other Arab-Israeli summits. An adviser to President Clinton on South Asia, Riedel organized the president's trip to India in 2000.
In January 2009, at the request of President Barack Obama, Riedel chaired a review of American policy towards Afghanistan and Pakistan. President Obama announced the results of that review in a speech to the nation in March 2009. In 2011, Riedel served as an expert advisor to the prosecution of al Qaeda terrorist Omar Farooq Abdulmutallab in Detroit. Later that same year, Prime Minister David Cameron requested that Riedel deliver a briefing on Pakistan to Britain's National Security Council.
The US new all along about their nuclear programmer but opted to ignore it.The US's main objective at that time was to undermine india's development by arming pakistan to the hilt. Least one has forgotten the US 7th fleet sailing towards Dacca while the British aircraft carrier was sailing towards Bombay in support of Pakistan against India's liberation of Bangladesh.
You are hinting at how the US deep state acts and how it intentionally keeps Americans uninformed (same for UK, Australia, and all other responsible democracies).
At that time, hight of the cold war, India falling into the Russian orbit world have been a geopolitical disaster for USA.
Bunch of conspiracy fools. They were funding the Afghan militias (stupidly), not the military dictatorship of Pakistan to fight India.
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Two points to note:
1) Benazir said she didn't know about Pakistan Nuclear program while it was her Dad who committed to build a nuclear bomb for Pakistan even if Pakistanis had to eat grass. So either BB made the fool out of America or this gentleman was to naive to understand her sarcasm.
2) That distinguished gentleman failed to mention the US administration before Bush senior. They were the one who fed milk to this snake and walk away when their objectives were met. Historically USA has always been supportive of Army govs but whenever democracy returns to Pakistan instead of helping her it imposes economic sanctions.
Knowledgeable Ignorant you are right on your first point. As for your second point, it’s not so much that we sanction Pakistan intentionally when a civilian government comes around, it’s just that the circumstances changed very drastically.
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I’m a teenage Pakistani, I appreciate so much USA effort of keeping this country in proxy war , and keeping it as back yard snake , as Hilary say ..
These we Pakistani we don’t need to education, life we are modern slave of state within state OF USA to just profit itself by destroying us
Hahaha he's just racist white supremacist in love with RSS.
Man doesn't know what he's talking about. No wonder why washington can't carry out their policies in Islamabad. Or kabul, for that matter.
"We are responsibly confident in the durability of the Afghan Army." Man you really nailed that assessment. Your license to practice foreign affairs should be revoked.
Epitome of naivete
Hahahahaha
The Afghan army was poorly trained and by the end of US involvement in Afghanistan, they weren't being paid. Additionally, he made this claim in 2014, when the Afghan army was successfully carrying out operations however they did so with air, recon, tech & comms support from the US Army.
When the US army had to leave they took these facilities with them. Afghan army was simply unwiling (and unable) to fight.
Its not exactly a poor assesment considering he said this some 8 years prior to the end of US involvement.
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This discussion took place in 2014, and Riedel's reply is in reference to 2015.
Way too many factors have changed from 2014 to 2021 when the US literally abandoned everything in a matter of days.
The way the US decided to withdraw played a crucial role in what followed - how the Taliban as well as the Afghan State assessed the situation, and acted.
In same manner one can compare UK Army of 1940s to 2020s and snicker at the military comparison...
Systematic rape was one of the chief weapons of the atrocity campaign. Any-where from 200,000 to 400,000 women were raped. Susan Brownmiller (1975), who published one of the earliest analyses of the event in her pioneering work on the politics of sexual violence, reported the following: “Rape in Bangladesh had hardly been restricted to beauty. Girls of eight and grandmothers of seventy-fi ve had been sexually assaulted during the nine-month repression. Pakistani soldiers had not only violated Bengali women on the spot; they abducted tens of hundreds and held them by force in their military barracks for nightly use. The women were kept naked to prevent their escape” (p. 82)." (Plight and Fate of Women During and Following, Routledge, Page 49)
7 year since this speech, how many predictions from Mr Experts of experts on South Asia came right ? Big 0
By providing financial and military assistance America has put both India and Afghanistan in trouble.
Good discussion
Thank you, very elaborate.
he is speaking true. usa supported pakistan nd china. nd now they r in their own trap.
they knew that pakistan developing nuclear weapons but they didnt say anything they always supported them.
soon china will understand this btw he is helping them for their own economy otherwise china economy could be collapse
Aap ko kia takleef hai Pakistan kay Nuclear say.?
India nay keo build kia Nuclear.?
India karay tu sahi.
Pakistan karnay tu dunya ki maa chudh jati hai...1971 mai tum loog chutia bannay East Pakistan mai interfering kari pher Pakistan nay Nuclear banna dia lakin dunya ko nahi bataya.
Pher India nay Dobara Galti ki 1998 mai Nuclear test raha tu Pakistan ko be moqqa mil gaya.. aap Pakistan par sanction lagtay tu india par be lagtay essi leay Pakistan pher Bach gaya....O Bhai agr tum indian ko peace chahea tu Kashmir ka mamla hal karo otherwise Pakistan India ko lay kay dubay ga.
@@kamlipaul8498 sanction india par bhi lage the be . 5 lacross satellite lagaye the pokhran par nazar rakhne india usa ka dushman tha us wakt kyonki india Soviet union ka dost tha aur socialism par chalta tha
@@kamlipaul8498 because Pakistan is undemocratic terrorists supporting lsIamic country.
India is free, democratic, principle based & secular country.
There is credibility of lsIamic nations, all lsIamic nations are pathological liers & terrorists supporter.
Who r u to coment on china though u don't have toilets also
Rajender Your information lacks depth and its one sided. Pakistan was developing nuclear weapon and US sort of knew about it but they couldn't do anything about it bcoz Pakistan won a war for the US in Afghanistan by beating the red Army nuclear program and that war went side by side; Bruce Riedel said in one of his speeches that if any war had the most bang for the buck USA spent was Zia Ul Haq's war in Afghanistan against the Soviet union and the events that followed led to the collapse of USSR.
Pakistan is the one who brought China and USA together, you may want to read about Henry Kissinger's secret visit to china to meet Mou arranged and facilitated by Pakistan.
what ever this great expert elaborated so vehemently has turned out to be absolutely false and misleading. if it were not for experts like him, the war in afghanistan might have left some room for face saving for usa. americans really need to rehash the criterion for selection of their experts.
The military and government seldom listen to progressive experts. They're busy playing cowboys like Raegan
Wonder if Mr. Riedel would be saying the same things about Pakistan if the USA had achieved its aims in Afghanistan.
Did he admit it was a mistake to attack Afghanistan? Most Afghans didn't even know where the World Trade Center was. Then after clearing Afghanistan of Al-Qaida within one year, what was the point of continuing the war for another 20? Eventually the whole country was handed back to the Taliban, and now all they do is to criticize the Taliban.
It is remarkable to listen to the gentleman introducing the guest and listing all of his failures from the Camp David debacle to the cluster schtupp that is American policy regarding Pakistan and Afghanistan, while somehow portraying them as praiseworthy. Upside down world.
*"The gang that can't shoot straight"*
-John Mearshheimer re the *Blob.*
At 49:00, the question is asked about what went wrong in Pakistan. It is absurd to exclude the Soviet-Afghan War and the modern Afghanistan War from this list. These events, led by the United States, have had irreparable damage on the country. They displaced peoples, spurred further radicalization, and inflated the military's stronghold, to mention just a few. While most of what is presented here is well-informed, Reidel's omission of these basic truths reveals much about his biases.
He is bragging about the $25B aid to Pakistan, but does he not know that the US war in Afghanistan and the resulting Pakistan's war in the tribal area cost Pakistan over a 100 billion dollars and a continued instability in the area which was very stable till 2001.
Thanks for putting up this talk by Mr. Riedel. While admitting that India never had any desire to invade and annex Pakistan, Mr. Riedel neglected to make it clear to his audience that it is actually Pakistan that has always dreamed of conquering India and completing the "unfinished business" of the Islamization of the Indian subcontinent. During the Cold War, the US connived in Pakistan's nuclear pilferage (before they got to the stage of proliferation). Perhaps the US drank the Pakistani koolaid about a "threat from India", and felt that their own balance-of-power strategy to pin India down in the subcontinent would be better served if Pakistan was nuclear armed. Now the US says they just want out of the area, as if to claim no responsibility for shielding Pakistan from the consequences of its own grandiose and genocidal misadventures. I think there is great potential for cooperation between the US and India, but this cannot materialize so long as the US does not discard the cold warrior and distorted British colonial lens on how to deal with the Indian subcontinent.
Agnimitra BRF He makes all that clear in his book
India's enemy's are within and they are in cahoots with pakistan to break india up.The indian politicians are living in a bubble with their idiotic ethics. Their politicians should be forced to study islam if they want to be in parliament.Otherwise india won't exist for long for the hindus and violence are poles apart.Their history speaks.
What is wrong with you paranoid hindutva types? Conservative US politics habe always played cowboyin the world, but supporting secular democracy is entirely different
Comprehensive and insightful
Awesome talk on Pakistani history and truth.
Hats off to you sir
You actually expose terror sponsor Pakistan badly.
Everything you said is absolute truth
usa needs to develop better ties with India
totally agree with you slowly americans are realizing
I’m a teenage Pakistani, I appreciate so much USA effort of keeping this country in proxy war , and keeping it as back yard snake , as Hilary say ..
These we Pakistani we don’t need to education, life we are modern slave of state within state OF USA to just profit itself by destroying us
Today in 2020 you still want better ties with America.? 😝🤣😝🤣 Ladakh mai jutay pard wa deay India ko China say..
Owr America India ko Rescue kar be nahi aya.
@@kamlipaul8498 maybe you don’t know but more Chinese soldiers were killed than Indians! And we fight our own war, we don’t need others.
@@kamlipaul8498Americau akbar and chill. Sunni allah america will save mecca medina from shia
Watching this in 2023 is really more terrifying... Pak has proved what he indicated 9-10 years ago
Who is watching after taliban us agreement??? Hit like
Dickey center very honest name.
This clown and his friends just cut a deal with Taliban and ran from Afghanistan
Dickey,what do you mean?
The Taliban, as a school of thought, were created before (mid 1970s) the US-Russia proxy war (early 1980s) in a halfwitted attempt to create 'strategic depth' vis a vis India... but the Pakistani textbooks and media will say whatever is preferable to legitimize the all pervasive role of its army in de facto running state affairs since the country's inception in 1974. The Taliban and other Deobandi Jihadi groups were born in what was then called the North West Frontier Province and were utilized against India since the first war over Kashmir. Since independence Pakistan's Army/Government (same thing) has been playing this dangerous game of using unconventional warfare which did not cease even when the country achieved military superiority over its neighbor as a consequence of US support in the 80s (which was subsequently squandered by excessive military spending of incompetent military dictators) and attained nuclear weapons. A country with a chip on its shoulder due to 'unfair' separation which serves as a deeply ingrained victim-narrative that is poisoning the minds of the vast majority of even the civil population, because it serves as a raison d'etre for the Army's leadership role, causing many to call it an 'army with a state' rather than a 'state with an army'
Much of what the authority by virtue of having written a few books on Pakistan prophesied has been proven wrong. Our nukes are safe and "young pakistanis" love our army.
And the country is going to religious autocratic hell.
Yasss sirrr I M PROUDDDD TO BE PAKISTAAAAAANIIIII!!!!!! GRAPE COUNTRY!!!! BEEERRRYYY GREAT!!!!!
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At 28:38 what you said is absolute fact that Pakistanis never took Manmohan singh seriously.during Mumbai attack when Indian government ask Pakistan to arrest lashkar e taiyaba Pakistan straight away refused
Is Christine Fair a better analyst in this area?
Best one!
This gentle man forgetting that he was the one who asked Pakistan to create these groups .... Very funny lies lol
It's a joint venture, now he is blaming everything on pakistan. Never trust US. They asked pak to create, fund and train these Taliban to counter Soviet, after Soviet fall. It's all, US and pak who still continued.
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The Taliban, as a school of thought, were created before (mid 1970s) the US-Russia proxy war (early 1980s) in a halfwitted attempt to create 'strategic depth' vis a vis India... but the Pakistani textbooks and media will say whatever is preferable to legitimize the all pervasive role of its army in de facto running state affairs since the country's inception in 1974. The Taliban and other Deobandi Jihadi groups were born in what was then called the North West Frontier Province and were utilized against India since the first war over Kashmir. Since independence Pakistan's Army/Government (same thing) has been playing this dangerous game of using unconventional warfare which did not cease even when the country achieved military superiority over its neighbor as a consequence of US support in the 80s (which was subsequently squandered by excessive military spending of incompetent military dictators) and attained nuclear weapons. A country with a chip on its shoulder due to 'unfair' separation which serves as a deeply ingrained victim-narrative that is poisoning the minds of the vast majority of even the civil population, because it serves as a raison d'etre for the Army's leadership role, causing many to call it an 'army with a state' rather than a 'state with an army'
@@satyaprasad9774 The US outsourced everything to Zia-ul-Haq. Saudi was asked to provide the funds and Pakistan made all decisions on the ground. Haq chose the 2 most militant and extremist groups out of the 7 present among the Afghan refugees in FATA (because the other 5 wanted to reinstate the Afghan Shah, who had attempted to do-away with the durand line), to serve a dual purpose. Firstly, he had experience with the Anti-India Lashkars already (Pakistan used since inception in 1947), and secondly he wanted to turn these militias around to target India in Kashmir (which happened as of the late 80s).Moreover, Pakistan was looking to avoid border clashes at the durand line and had a nascent insurgency problem in the 'Pashtunistan' movemen, which both could be solved by sending and paying these same people to fight in Afghanistan. The US wanted a proxy war with deniability, Gen. Haq wanted a Jihad. So, actually US equipment was provided for Pakistans Jihad, not the other way around.
20:26 what an Extreme Lie. My Goodness this guy is so Shameless. Pakistani Taliban never ever had any control over anything in Karachi and this Gringo is saying that 40% of Karachi port is in the hands of Pakistani Taliban. WTH!!!!
I feel bad for all those guys who were innocent enough to believe what this guy just said considering him as some kind of expert. Intellectual Dishonesty. Shame on Liars
@Eric mahaan i feel your pain bro. after what Pak Army did to you guys haha
@@saadmalik8076 porkistan started all 4 wars lot all 4 so shut the f***up kid goo learn ur own history
@Eric mahaan Their hatred of india has clouded their thinking.First they sold their soul and country to uncle sam for a few F-16 and tanks.Now it's China's turn to be santa claws ??? Sad state for the people of pakistan. China has the population to displace them ???Look at what is happening in Tibet.
If not Taliban,then some other name of another terrorist religion organization...What difference it makes ?? Still same....
He is absolutely right, who is teleban,
He is a knowledgable man, but extremely one sided and biased. People like him have been formulating US foreign policy, and why the US foreign policy is such a mess. I think the Americans should be grateful that the current US government does not follow his one-sided, biased analysis when formulating foreign policy. I can refute each and every argument of his.
So true. Unbelievable how much rubbish he's talking. "Pakistani Taliban control 40% of Karachi and the largest port". What rubbish. He's brain-washing those poor kids with Anti-Pakistani sentiment because Pakistan is becoming more of an economic threat to the US due to it's massive contracts with China and less dependence on the US.
If you look at this from an economic perspective, you see that whenever the US had strong ties with Pakistan, it was because Pakistan was dancing to it's tunes. Now that it isn't, and China is protecting Pakistan, the US wants to consider them as enemies. Such Bastards.
And he keeps boasting on the amount of aid given, he doesn't mention that most of that aid was actually the cost that Pakistan itself spent, and this was just compensation
Trump--the lobby group cease to exist and so is their gravy train.That is why all of them want Trump out out.Foreign govts buy/influnce american foreign policy.More aid to country x means more money recycled into their (lobby group's) pocket ? Clinton Foundation.
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13.19 The Time Scale of Harm
SOULSEARCHING FOR PAKISTAN
There are a couple of inaccuracies in his speech
15:55 pakistan according to best estimates has 100-150 nukes, while england and france each have 200+
not to mention mullah Umar was dead for quite some time
this just goes to show that a lot of times these public speakers are not as familiar with the situation as they claim
+Ad Ch Pakistan is increasing its nuclear arsenal at maximum rate and when thisa lecture was arranged at that time it was not declared that mullah omar is dead
+Prashant Patel It is now known that mullah omar died in April 2013
while the publishing date for this video is june 2014.
I can't tell when it was recorded
if the publishing date matched the recording date proves that he was bs-ing
just like the bs of pakistan having more nukes than england and france
infact pakistan still doesn't have more nukes than england or france
and these are declared nuclear states
while who knows how many nukes are in possession of israel
their nuclear has remained unchecked since 1960s
I know mullah Omar died in 2013 but in 2015 it was declared that he died 2 years ago in Karachi hospital, I know for the fact when it was declared it was modi government in india
Prashant Patel well then that proves that bruce didn't know about mullah either
and was bsing as usual
that is the problem with these retired
"experts"
May be
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Very calm interview and debate, and every debate must be like this.
@1:00:00 please phrase your resume in the form of a question.
The people who created Pakistan still run the place from miles away & with a lot of cash, there not ignorant to what’s going on there, it’s there creation.
The same people created Ind*a too, as both countries came into existence in August 1947, there was no country called Ind*a prior to that time, what there was was the British Ind*an Empire or a landmass called South Asia which was in the form of many states and kingdoms when the British first arrived in the region in Bengal in the early 1700’s, there was no one country, therefore the claim that somebody created Pakistan is nonsensical because it supposes that the British who found the region as many different independent kingdoms, amalgamated or cobbled together the vastly differing and disparate regions of South Asia into the artificially crafted political construct and entity called the British Ind*an Empire should have left South Asia as one “country” or entity constitutionally speaking when they wound up their empire, but the question is why should they have done when there was no country as Ind*a in the past, except may be the odd short lived empire thousands of years ago and also when those same Brits didn’t find the place as ONE.
If the accusation is that tge British created Pakistan then the british practically created half the countries in the world including Ind*a when they decolonised their former colonies and the other half of countries were created by the other European colonial powers when they decolonised, almost everybody that wasn’t a colonial or imperial power was a colony of these powers and hence were created, may be except fir Nepal out of the hundreds of countries, lol, anyway nice try, snd yes it was our right to have our own country as native peoples of these lands that make up Pakistan regardless of what the British it the present day ind*ans wanted, after all the jabs belongs to its people, this land called Pakistan sure as hell never belonged to any Gujju, bhaiya, bihari, Bengali, Maratha, Dakhan or Tamil but belonged to and always rightly will to the people of these lands who are the a Sindhis, Baluch, Pakhtuns and Punjabis etc, you nor any Bharat matta type have no claim, it is a matter of self determination and the right of every people to collectively organise themselves as a state, unless of course you are against independence, freedom and sovereignty!
Pakistan Zindabaad
@@madeehasaeed786 Pakistan Jindabad??? Looking at it right now looks like the slogan should be "Pakistan se Jinda bhag"
I’d say Malaysia Zindabad and UK Zindabad too because all countries have the right to exist and continue as independent countries. Nobody needs to concern themselves with Pakistan as every country at some point goes through difficult times, we will come through this. The remarkable thing here is that all you could do was focus on the slogan at the end which is basically generic for all countries, you are neither able to show the validity of the initial comment in which it’s mentioned people or whatever who allegedly created Pakistan when the reality is that this country and its land belongs and belonged to the people of these lands, not to any Indian, there is no reason why South Asia should have been left as one entity at the end of the colonial period, it never was one and especially was never a country, if we go by the logic of that original comment then those people or forces who allegedly created Pakistan also created India in August 1947 as it too didn’t exist prior to that as it was also part of the British Indian Empire, not to forget a hundred other countries that came into existence when the European colonial powers including the British all wound down their respective empires after WW2 but for some unfathomable reason the only objection seems to be towards Pakistan coming into existence, then it’s some sort of conspiracy, lol, there is something called self determination you know, nor are you able to prove wrong or refute anything I said in my first comment, so no, won’t be running anywhere. Next time show the concepts of self determination and the fact that these lands belong to us to be wrong, prove that this land belongs to some bhaiya or Bihari or Dakhan and not to the people of Pakistan rather than the tired old propaganda of Pakistan being created by some nefarious forces or being a conspiracy of the British to divide Bharat matta, what a silly argument.
Again
Pakistan Zindabaad
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Once you have listened to old tomato head, it’s clear to see the American view of Pakistan, once a hired gun and a front line state - now that it wants to stand on its own feet and define its own path, Pakistan is a pariah ..
A military state with no progressive civil society means standing on its own feet?
@@lazypops3117 now that Pakistan has a leader that is chosen by the people and not a puppet …progression will come and this is evident from all performance indicators .!
Pakistan is a terrorist state
Even the Saudis are getting tired with Pakistans promise to stand on its two own feet and not doing so.
I didnt say trying to stand up because after what 17 or 18 times Pakistan promising the same with the IMF, it didnt.
Hence we can say even the top most Arab Prince himself is getting tired.
Wow video is so much true in prediction. After 2 years sadly his words are been realised by world.
Pin Points : 36:52
Guy missed on strategy.
1.monitor nuclear developments
2. Remove military assistance
3. Sanction unless terrorist religious schools shut down
Stupid to fight old terrorists as new ones are being generated in the pipeline.
( important to understand the philosophy that drives their actions).
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after 6years..almost all of his predictions have been proven wrong..
Just wait, Balochistan will be next Bangladesh.
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We are know all mind of america for Pakistan
What did you try to say?
i see a Jealous Old Bald guy spilling out his internal heat
Setting aside the lame attempt to insult his lack of hair or his age, what has he said that you disagree with?
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Please also tell the truth about Nawaz Sharif’s Mayfair flats. How were they purchased?
Amazing. I truly like his analysis, we should apply our selves to Peace. He is true expert. He points to the nemesis of our society
You are on of very Few who understand what Pakistan is .India and Indian aren't interested in any kind confrontation , but highly concern about Nuclear so should world.
Seems the video is before the result of indian election declaration but the analysis of modi's policy and pakistani policy with india is absolutely correct.We can see india pakistan relation now how bad its turning day by day.
The US Pakistan encomium is part of a larger network. China and India are peer competitors, and have gone to war already. As long as US money and arms flow to Pakistan, it fills a bucket that could be filled by China. China's interests converge with Pakistan's more than the US's interests do.
The largest issue is nuclear. A nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India would be the greatest human disaster since WWII. Given ecological ramifications, it could be far worse. Terrorism is a blip in comparison, except for one thing. Pakistan's vast, unorganized arsenal is a terrorist gold mine.
India has its non-alignment roots. Perhaps there's more. By not aligning with the US, India permits the US to maintain a fiction of not aligning with them. In turn, the US and Pakistan have a bizarre relationship, but a relationship all the same.
The most important element of this US - Pakistan relationship is US knowledge of Pakistani nukes. The US gov't, defense, CIA, etc, have no reason to publicize their knowledge. But Riedel's story of Gates informing Bhutto that her country had nukes suggests the US knows some. Whether the US can tell if a Pakistani nuke has been hijacked is another story. But without the US relationship with the Pakistani military, it's hard to see any other way of knowing.
To maintain this knowledge the US needs to stay in the dysfunctional relationship. India needs it the most, since the Chinese would replace the US on their doorstep. Just to put a fine point on it, the US turned a blind eye to Pakistan's terror in Bangladesh because they were Nixon's only conduit to China.
If Pakistan rolls its nukes into position, all bets are off. The US and India may hesitate, but if they can destroy the nukes with cruise or other missiles, they probably will. For good reason.
+Moe Kazi are you kidding? Bruce was & is still one of the biggest supporters of the Pakistani pople,. He highlights problems that are genuine & for the betterment of the Pakistani people. Its a fact the military of Pakistan & large part the political parties (upper elite) have made the country where it is today.
Being a smaller country , with more natural resources than india per hectare of land, it should have been the richer with higher standard of living & eduction than india too.
It had Lahore, the then knowledge capital of the old world. More tolerant (though being predominantly Muslim) of all races & faith; with the most learned people in the world in the city, with culture that was far more vibrant than any other Asian country.
BUT look where its reached, mostly due to the military dictatorship, particularly during the time of Zia-ul haq, his encouragement & bringing of the Saudi sponsored wahabi Muslim thoughts & sects just shattered the cultural fabric of Pakistan.
The original Sufi Islam which was the root of faith in Pakistan was much more vibrant & more beautiful islamic faith. which was the reason a Muslim dynasty like the mughuls ruled the sub-continent with such peace & ease. for ages.
There are other factors too, (cant type it all here) but Pakistan should go back to its roots , & it will be a marque democratic county, envy of the Asian region.
So stop saying he is against Pakistan just because u don't want to hear criticism, When the people of Pakistan can accept there drawbacks in their country, nothing will be able to stop them, from rising & making this country to its former glory.
I agree with most rather almost all of what you said.
Problem is no Wahhabism. Wahhabism is to believe in the oneness of Allah and to avoid polytheism in the least of its form.
Problem is with the interpretation of " Jihad ", and I would like to stress not "Jihad" but the INTERPRETATION of "Jihad" and the subsidiary actions that follow it.
Psylock X. hahaha he is nothing but another zionist
From the last 12 years, Pakistan has learned a lot from its past mistakes, is undoing its mistakes, and on the path of prosperity and development. It does not mean everything is rosy, yes there are challenges, but the direction is right now. The hope and aspiration for a better future are instilled, in everyone. And we have a success story to share with World about our victory against terrorism.
Now, one thing which can be fruitful for all in South Asia is good relations between two nuclear states of South Asia. From the last 24 months our new prime minister, who has a track record of serving humanity, has offered many times to its Indian counterpart that let's start dialogs and solve our outstanding issues. As a goodwill gesture, he released the captured Indian pilot, opened the border for religious pilgrims to Sikhs, which even the UN secretary-general has appraised. Unfortunately, the Indian counterpart is not responding positively to these efforts because he has a track record of massacring minorities and has taken the great nation of India to the path of Fascism, following the ideology of RSS which is the killer of Gandhi.
I hope our sane Indian friends will make their leadership realize that Pakistan is a reality on their eastern border and it is not going to go anywhere, so it's better to accept it as a reality and start good relationships with it.
You have managed to lower the number of minorities from 8 % to where it is now
Many contradictions, including its friendship with China; yet this democracy possesses nuclear weapon.
this man knows a lot about Pakistan....everything he is saying is 100%
well this talk was in 2014..and in 2021 all of his predictions are wrong..
Not true he’s not 100% on everything he’s attached some lies to som facts & hope those who don’t know anything will believe everything without double checking,
It’s like blind faith.
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Pakistan remains a terrorist pariah state
When pak break ?
When qiyamat occurs but India will be breaked by Pakistan in near future
USA gave 25B$ military assistance but the people of Pakistan didn't need that they were in Hunger, they needed economic prosperity and in return 80 thousand people were killed due to USA war with afghanistan
😂😂 Must have learnt from India don’t go around and poke other people
Even a common Pakistani can counter his arguments. Only showing one sided black part.. That's how they keep Americans in dark and black..
Speaker just avoided the first question " What about indian(RAW) presence in afganistan,surrounding Pakistan from every sides.
RAW is fine.....they don't have terrorist mentality...
@@jekdndn2420 They have selected modi to lead india who has killed more than 3000 not only muslim but also hindu.And you are saying RAW isn't involve in terrorist work.Shame on your sick mentality.
@@mohammadshaown892 3000?! Where did you get that number from?!
@@puneet7768 By taking body flesh sample CID officially recognized 1,044 body and according to missing complaint 1500+ were still missing. Have a look czcams.com/video/OaMDIUkoXrg/video.html
You forgot Jews, Israel and Mosad
What about America? How many wars have it won?
They won biggest war in human history
@@heathledger330 can you please elaborate? Afghanistan? Vietnam? Forget about world wars! There are many other factors!
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How many wars did the US start? Zero.
Pakistan? Four times.
The point is about Pakistan’s judgement.
Please say about Balochistan which is Pakistan most weak point. Balochistan had been invaded by Pakistan on 28 March 1948 and forced Khan of Qallat the ruler (was capital of Balochistan) to sign an accession. Since Baloch suffering from cruelty of Pakistan army and injustice. Baloch have a different culture, language and rich by their national resources which Pakistan with China looting.
Who Says You Looting Most of The Resources Even Not Have been Explored Only Because of Unrest in Balochistan and Imran is Solving Matters With Time It Will be Solved and All Other Balochistan States acceded With Pakistan Except Khan of Kalat But Their One Brother Was agreed and That's Why Military Takes Action
What about Sindh? Gilgit?
@@ASGdgill Every is a Part of Federal Government of Pakistan It's Not Your Deal
What Bruce has failed to mention is why Pakistan wants to have a say in Afghanistan? It is bcx since 1947 Afghanistan has tried to take part of Pakistani land with the help of India, through direct military confrontations and proxies using the Pakhtun movement, so Pakistan has decided to defend its sovereignty against those elements since 1947/
are you f**ing kidding me??? With Indias help???? Afghani people believe that Pakistan is holding their Pastoon land and they want to get it back by their own. From where did India come here!! Its the Pustoon people that want their land back stop blaming everything on India.
Bruce Riedel's and CIA's problem is that ISI and present Army Chief have drawn a State Security Line which they do not allow CIA and Americans to cross with the help of their ruling facilitators in Pakistan. After failing in their attempts now they are using Modi to violate Pakistan's borders provoking Pakistan to engage in traditional war. Pak Army has cautiously responded to that challenge by behaving responsibly and exposing India.
There are other factors also which can not be discussed here which Bruce has intentionally and dishonestly not mentioned in his speech.
Is not istares no sorey
this man seems out of breath
Hilarious, considering that Karzai was an entirely created and owned product of the same folkz who used to sign Riedel's paycheck. Anyway, time has moved on.
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I left the video when he said pakistan means Punjab afghania....this indicate how they don't know shit and act like scholars .... Pakistan means the land of pure ....
Yeah pure . Not single terrorist
Pakistani control and management by punjab people, the punjabi army is powerful in its country against their own people and very rich. unfortunately this one group destroyed Pakistan.
Yes we are like Pakistani army we are not like us a agent nvr support Pakistani army what do you want via Pakistani passport V army is not your army we are not like USA agent Mr zardari no assertive and something more people and you are must need to understand we are love Pakistani Army
For a guy the Snowdenistas love to complain about, Riedel is bang-on about Pakistan. Needs more time on the ground though. Abbottabad is two hours from the capital.
Talk starts at 5:45.
ya 2 hours; but in a bullock cart
His views on ISI and Punjab's role in Pakistan are misleading because Zardari Government in Islamabad was not represented by Punjab. He as Baluch President representing Sindh sacrificed his Punjabi Minister from Punjab Yusuf Reza Gillani just to cover up his corruption by disallowing him to write to Swiss courts for opening the case of corruption against AAZ indulging in contempt of court and consequently disqualifying to remain Prime Minister.
The federal government does not exercise any authority on provinces and the only unifying factor is a federally centralized highly disciplined armed forces of Pakistan strictly controlling both foreign affairs and nuclear button because the both the ruling families of PML-N and PPP-ZG are morally vulnerable state security risk due to globally reported cases of corruption in and outside Pakistan. He is so ignorant that he doesn't know that Benazir, a Sindhi and daughter of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, was twice elected Prime Minister of Pakistan. Junejo also hand-picked by military dictatorship as Prime Minister was also a Sindhi. Z A Bhutto was also not Punjabi. He was Sindhi.
Ilov ilov swedan mi im ok luc is ko somali
These people acted like they know. Main reasons they failed in Afghanistan. All miss information.
Pakistan is made on islam and that glue is the most powerful
Modi is ....... Blah blah blah 🤣.
We have worked with other PMs (forced other PMs to bend), but this is different. (Now we can only ask politely, no force would bend this fella or he will take our "A double S") therefore PM Modi is cruel ... Muli... Hating .... Blah blah blah 🤣
Isn't it absurd to call a Business arrangement, a Partnership ?
Aid should help people !!!
What I do not understand about the US is:
1) You have the highest number of think tanks in the world
2) You have some of the most advanced tech in the world
3) You know all this that you said in this video
Then why the actual fuck would you support this regime and be so short sighted?? I mean the shortsightedness of the US military often leads me to belief that the defense-industrial complex of US knowingly lets US into a terrible path so that it can continue wars and prolong them.
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Pakistan failed state.. the more you give, the more problem you buy, Even Saudi Arabia should be declared terrorist state
But India ko gaad marega. Good luck from Nepal.
That's far from the truth, they have a problem due to the taliban coming from afghanistan due to the US invasion. If you you can build a fence on the border with afghanistan that would help. Love India :)
Just propaganda
PAK means "pure" in urdu, It means Land of the Pure, why are you spreading propaganda,
You are wrong
@Laloo are you introducing yourself?
@@sudarshan3965 i have translated it in simple words. Now whatever is wrong, it is with you.
@Laloo no. We all know you were introducing yourself, and your family background. Where your family comes from? Shit.
For all viewers information. This gentleman does know exactly the definition of Pakistan. Baluchstan. ...has it contents in Pakistan more than any other state. STAN...Is part of Pakistan.
2.. How, Who and Why the Talban were formed.
3... Pakistan is the most suffered nation on planet earth by terrorism.
This is what happens when people sitting in America who don’t know much give their theories
No gov institution has its power cut ever as they have back up power - who is this joker
NOW THAT IS TODAY , THAT IS IN 2019, I REQUEST MR. BRUCE RIEDEL, TO GO BACK TO THE HISTORY, AND READ ABOUT THE THE TWO NATION THEORY OF MY LEADER AND MY QUAID, MUHAMMED ALI JINNAH, AND GET SOME KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HIS STATEMENTS WHAT HE HAS SAID AT LEAST 90 YEARS BACK. I THINK YOU HAVE SPOKEN THE TRUTH BY YOURSELF ABOUT ' THE UNEXPECTED'. AT THE END OF YOUR DICUSSION.
Check the true history uncle.. but not Pakistani's writien history 😂😂😂
Well listening now much water flown away.. But all this is bullshit. The things you dont understand logically, even being a common man, i can tell you what are the real games..
Bruce Riedel's plan is to connect Indus, Ganges and Brahmaputra (Greater India), hurray !!!
Please bro, Mr. Reidel is a well read and connected man. His opinions must be respected
He never said anything about greater india
He has high respect for Vajpayee and Manmohan Singh. Gen Musharraf has the same opinion about these two Indian PM
Mr.Riedel gave a honest opinion on Modi that he is skeptical
Seems like I'm listening to an Indian patriotic security expert :) so much lack of credible information despite so much experience
lol 😂 yeah anyways you guys live in your own bubble , now look at your condition dude , US left Afghanistan now and you guys were celebrating like as if khilafat was achieved, now taliban is playing double game with you only using TTP , killing your troops
You can talk as much as you want. Pakistan has to look after its own interests
AMERICA, WE'VE DONE ENOUGH ... NOW IT'S YOUR TURN TO DO MORE ... FOR OUR 'INDEPENDENCE' FROM INDIAN MILITARY OCCUPATION !
Pakistan is a Cancer for the Whole World
and India's ass is infected by it
Buahhahaha he don’t know even what he is talking about specially name of Pakistan meanings.
One sided completely unbalanced analysis he did not mention cia raw nds and their proxies role in destabilising Pakistan and social and economic destruction in Pakistan due to these proxies
Pak means pure, and stan means place. PAK for Punjab, etc is a concocted story to justify claim on Kashmir. Now our experts not getting this simple fact is shocking. Pakistan is a nice name and it is not nice to make fun of it. BTW I am not a Pakistani but I do have deep respect for Jinha. In 1920 he was very secular and would been Prime Minister of undivided India if British were to give India independence as they had promised at the beginning if world War I.
His travel from secularism to religious zealot is mysterious.
Nah, Gandhi and Nehru were always top of the inc. Jinnah had a complex of superiority, and played religion for political gain
The guy is ignorant. Bangladesh stopped growing jute in 1975. Pakistan liberated a third of Kashmir in 1948 49 war. The 1965 war was a stalemate.
Bruce Reidel may be your ideal or indian ideal but he's not ours, and WE dont care for him
peter tuann No we didnt almost nuke india in 1998. Your information and views are inaccurate. And we dont care whether America trusts Pakistan or not. For better or for worse, they still need eachother.
Pithukuli Seeman Pakistan was born out of Islamic Nationalism and the fact that hindu lobby was marginalizing Muslims and other groups. Even today we can see how india treats not just minorities but even low caste hindus. Pakistans record on minority treatment is questionable too - but nowhere near as bad as india where thousands have been killed in just hours in communal riots. Radicial hindus like RSS and Shiv Sena dream about "akhand bharat" and other ridiculous wet dreams - but Pakistan is and always will be the single largest bulwark against this extremist ideology. There may be arrogance by Pakistanis but there is no "anger" -- we got what we wanted in 1947. We are a proud nation.
You don't care about nobody not even those that shower you with billions so that pakistanis can survive on a day-to-day basis
Pithukuli Seeman What happened to Muslims in indian Gujrat? Christians in Orissa? untouchable dalits in assam or even new delhi where they are forced to clean up human waste because of india's lack of toilets
as for the Sikh in Peshawar - he was killed by a fellow Sikh and it was due to a business dispute. Had NOTHING to do with sectarian or communal violence. I'm a resident of Peshawar by the way and we have a reasonably large and peaceful Sikh minority that still thrives here. They are adopted to local culture and they are very much one of us.
We dont require lectures from third-rate yindoostani anal-ysts like you
Diesel_Nut84 What are those things on your profile image ..scissors? Are you a barber? Oh wait ….you are a barbarian!!
Is not gay mi wallahi riyale men