Whenever people compare the stats of a weapon system the relative ease of manufacture (and maintenance) often gets overlooked. Videos from this and the Tank Museum channels help me appreciate these factors more.
@@Hebdomad7you’re right, but the American military now has gone in the opposite direction. They’re building the highest technology weapons they can design. Judging from Ukraine this is working well.
@@morstyrannis1951 sadly it does and does good. Why sadly? Well, the context: The switch to heavier and more complex and expensive equipment was justified by logic of Korean War ie instead of waiting for equipment and forces to travel over Pacific/Atlantic, the best possible equipment should be already in place and be designed to always counter superior in quantity foe. Sad part is not in perfomance, but in pathetic amounts of help Ukraine had received. Decades of Peace dividend aka Appeasement 2.0 had emptied NATO stockpiles with that 3% GDP military budget that is so prevalent among member states. So while seeing equipment perform is great, there is less then a hundred examples in each category, that were donated. Zelensky is a fool, who tried to trade with Russia instead of preparing his country for defense.
Perhaps in a later video you could fire up the mount and demonstrate it's ability to move around? It is a rarely documented thing and with a vintage item that appears in a good enough condition to do that.
The Quad Polsten was a Canadian designed and built LAA gun using the standard Polsten guns. The Polsten guns were built in the UK, Canada, Oz and the USA. These examples are Canadian made.
The Canadian firm that made these was an appliance manufacturer generally making stoves and washing machines. So many companies stepped up and used their manufacturing knowledge and equipment on weapons during the war. Inglis is now just a brand name owned by Whirlpool and they no longer make anything in Canada ( no surprise there).
The first guns delivered by Inglis were not successful. Being an appliance manufacturer they shot out jets of water instead of cannon shells when the gunner depressed the trigger.
@@tomhenry897 sadly, the same in Australia. A lot of our grandparents have fridges, freezers etc. that were built here in Australia decades ago. They still work perfectly. You can buy a brand new Chinese made appliance and you’ll be lucky to get a few years out of it.
I've seen a lot of variation in tankers' helmets across different armies. The Russians seem to stick to their ribbed, cushioned types. Patton wanted to modify a football helmet for his tankers. Modern helmets seem to be woven Kevlar for lightness. American tankers of WWII had throat microphones, I believe, while others used open type. I find that stuff fascinating.
Dear Guys, Thanks a lot for explaining the history of the Polsten Quad Anti-Aircraft Gun. The more you show me of your amazing collection, the more I regret that I’m not able to visit your museum. I look forward to your next vlog and send you love from the Netherlands
I am a bit of a tank nerd, so I'm thinking "tanks"! I really like learning about how Australians further upgraded weapon systems. The history of this weapon type, despite it not being a tank, is very interesting. And I like that we have these videos as I'm sure in the whole of them it is more than I could process if I ever get to visit Oz and my partner will not be cool with spending a week at your museum.
The Swords and Ploughshares Museum near Ottawa in Canada has one of these as well. The gun could not be operated on the trailer as it cannot traverse without fouling the fenders (wings). There were 2000 built.
These sort of weapons provide a fantastic display especially with blanks I haven't seen one that operates here in the UK does yours work it would be great for your open day and I'd bet your staff would have a great time too
For a one-man operated AA gun, it's got a quite simple targeting setup, which looks like it would be rather something working as a deterrent against strafing aircraft rather than targeting some planes up above, because estimate aircraft lead position for shooting seems like a multi-crew operation, and there are some good British training videos for that on youtube.
I was thinking this as well. But then I was thinking about my own training and I was like, "oh, so you have to memorize the speeds of these various aircraft and then adjust to the situation", which is the point of tracers.
Imagine this quad gun on a sherman hull..... Aka, the Canadian Skink! Tested out in 1945, it was described as devastating, against ground targets of all kinds. However, the Luftwaffe was no longer considered a threat, so the Skink became "extindt"
Like to see both Sentinel tanks the AC 1 and AC 4 in a video plus The Australian Armour & Artillery Museum needs to get the Australian experimental light tank for it's collection
I read the memoires of a Canadian sergeant who served in Normandy. He recalled that the divisional AA Polstons were used in a ground support role at Falaise. Unfortunately, the result was a lot of friendly casualties.
@@majmikecalnan "Because We Are Canadians: A Battlefield Memoir" by Charles Kipp, 2005 published by Douglas and McIntyre. It is an interesting book but one suspects the author of appropriating to himself other's experiences and otherwise telling a fish tale or two. Nevertheless, he tells a harrowing story, with his company shrinking down to the size of a platoon by winter of '44-45 due to the lack of replacements.
Jason you can do a video on anything you have in the museum, I don't care as they with all be very good I've no doubt. I owned an early Inglis made 9mm Browning Hi-Power. I now can't remember the exact serial number but it was within the first 500 guns that they produced. The story is that as the Germans were coming in the front door of FN's factory in Liege, the Hi-Power plans were being smuggled out of the back door to be sent to England somehow. Presumably it was around the time of Dunkirk in May 1940. I think Inglis started producing the Hi-Power later on in 1940/41 I'm not sure about that though.
Hey Ausamas, really awesome that you have so many pieces of military history so maticulously preserved. It looks as if you had enough armor and equipment to equip several armor brigades. Are you guys getting ready for something? Just kidding 😂
I’m really enjoying all of these exhibit show and tell videos whatever they are. They all have an interesting story to share. Thanks guys for all that you do👍
More of the non tank or armoured car aspects of the museum would be appreciated, Jason. Enjoy your dives into the tanks ( Leopard episode was grouse), but mixing it up with the more esoteric aspects of the collection would be great as well.
Like to see a review on the Saracen vehicle at some point. I remember that a military museum near Oakey, Queensland had one in driving condition in the late seventies. We had a Cadet camp at this military museum in 1977 ( Toowoomba State High School Cadet unit ), that was near Brookvale Park. They also had a DUKW amongst many other vehicles.
I've been to the Oakey museum, I've never heard of the Saracen, and I haven't been in quite a while, but the museum is a good aviation museum with a few other things as well. They also have open days every year with displays from the military, and adjoining army aviation training base, we often use to go because land owners got free admission as a thank you present for putting up with the helicopter training flights
@@cameronnewton7053 It wasn't at Oakey Air Museum, but near Brookvale Park near Jondaryan some 17km westwards from Oakey. The privately owned museum closed in the mid eighties.
initially conceived by the Polish, a distant predecessor to the mighty ZSU-23-4 by any chance? Have you guys got one of the american quad 50 cal mounts? That would be cool to have a short video on. Also, any hopes of maybe finding an M50 Ontos for the collection?
You may have already done this but it would be good to see some of the APC variants you have in the museum. All time periods, all countries/theatres.... 👍
Jason, another Good Friday Vlog, great way to end the week. An off topic question, with Army starting to replace various pieces of armour in the coming years, have you guys put your hands up to try and obtain an example of each of the M113AS4 and ASLAV and M1A1? Is that possible? Cheers,
well done Jason , you film it , and l'll watch it ( ps. l got your book on the Sentinel tank recently , it's a very good read , well done on that too )
Whenever people compare the stats of a weapon system the relative ease of manufacture (and maintenance) often gets overlooked. Videos from this and the Tank Museum channels help me appreciate these factors more.
One of many reasons why the Sherman was a war winning tank. And the Tiger was a war losing tank.
Keep it simple stupid as the saying goes… strong simple to maintain is a winning strategy
@@Hebdomad7you’re right, but the American military now has gone in the opposite direction. They’re building the highest technology weapons they can design. Judging from Ukraine this is working well.
Shake n bake training
@@morstyrannis1951 sadly it does and does good.
Why sadly? Well, the context: The switch to heavier and more complex and expensive equipment was justified by logic of Korean War ie instead of waiting for equipment and forces to travel over Pacific/Atlantic, the best possible equipment should be already in place and be designed to always counter superior in quantity foe.
Sad part is not in perfomance, but in pathetic amounts of help Ukraine had received. Decades of Peace dividend aka Appeasement 2.0 had emptied NATO stockpiles with that 3% GDP military budget that is so prevalent among member states. So while seeing equipment perform is great, there is less then a hundred examples in each category, that were donated.
Zelensky is a fool, who tried to trade with Russia instead of preparing his country for defense.
Perhaps in a later video you could fire up the mount and demonstrate it's ability to move around? It is a rarely documented thing and with a vintage item that appears in a good enough condition to do that.
Given that a fairly fresh battery is installed, I think it likely the unit is in operable condition.
That’s an awesome machine. Amazing to think it began as a Polish machine, perfected by the Brits, built here by Aussies. What a pedigree.
The Quad Polsten was a Canadian designed and built LAA gun using the standard Polsten guns. The Polsten guns were built in the UK, Canada, Oz and the USA. These examples are Canadian made.
You forgot the CANUCKS! 😎
@@majmikecalnanIT was Polish design gun.
@@majmikecalnan ahh! My mistake. Thanks for clarifying.
A great evolution and progression of that quad mount weapon platform, indeed.
Nice to get these bonus clips through the week. Cheers Team.
The Canadian firm that made these was an appliance manufacturer generally making stoves and washing machines. So many companies stepped up and used their manufacturing knowledge and equipment on weapons during the war. Inglis is now just a brand name owned by Whirlpool and they no longer make anything in Canada ( no surprise there).
I have Inglis. Appliances in my home 😊 🇨🇦
The first guns delivered by Inglis were not successful. Being an appliance manufacturer they shot out jets of water instead of cannon shells when the gunner depressed the trigger.
Same in America
All made in China
@@tomhenry897 sadly, the same in Australia. A lot of our grandparents have fridges, freezers etc. that were built here in Australia decades ago. They still work perfectly. You can buy a brand new Chinese made appliance and you’ll be lucky to get a few years out of it.
@@bebo4807lol
Very nice bit of kit. I wasn't aware of a Commonwealth quad mount. Keep up the great work!
Canadian Quad mount.
More of the artillery side if you have any. Just as interesting as the ships airplanes and tanks
There is another channel here on CZcams that has been showing the shells that are on display at this museum.
Thank Jason for every awesome presentation !. 🙏
I've seen a lot of variation in tankers' helmets across different armies. The Russians seem to stick to their ribbed, cushioned types. Patton wanted to modify a football helmet for his tankers. Modern helmets seem to be woven Kevlar for lightness. American tankers of WWII had throat microphones, I believe, while others used open type. I find that stuff fascinating.
A lot of these old AA guns would be perfect and cutting edge these days for hunting drones. Put a small fire control radar on them and they're set.
There are more modern versions of such weapons available now.
Dear Guys,
Thanks a lot for explaining the history of the Polsten Quad Anti-Aircraft Gun. The more you show me of your amazing collection, the more I regret that I’m not able to visit your museum.
I look forward to your next vlog and send you love from the Netherlands
Thanks Jason!
It's fun to see these exhibits as well!
I am a bit of a tank nerd, so I'm thinking "tanks"! I really like learning about how Australians further upgraded weapon systems. The history of this weapon type, despite it not being a tank, is very interesting. And I like that we have these videos as I'm sure in the whole of them it is more than I could process if I ever get to visit Oz and my partner will not be cool with spending a week at your museum.
The Swords and Ploughshares Museum near Ottawa in Canada has one of these as well. The gun could not be operated on the trailer as it cannot traverse without fouling the fenders (wings). There were 2000 built.
yes more of this type of video would be great, enjoying these bonus videos
A 10 sec clip of the gun in action would of been a nice addition to the vid
It might be deactivated, in which case ... they can't put it in.
@@aserta Sorry, Historically speaking
@@asertait will certainly be deactivated if it's in Australia. Especially a 20 mm quad cannon set up lol
Or just in elevation and rotation
Star Wars AT-ST without legs, it must have been the inspiration.
Looks like it is a running unit. Would love to hear it fire up & see it pivot around. Thanks for the neat video.
Thanks Jason, excellent tutorial, I would love of those as the rabbits are getting bad, Cheers
That... looks so well maintained it seems you could re-add in the firing pins, reload, fill up the gas tank and be ready to rumble
Would love to see a video about the AC4 Sentinel tank.
Nice piece of kit for the time. Thank you.
These sort of weapons provide a fantastic display especially with blanks I haven't seen one that operates here in the UK does yours work it would be great for your open day and I'd bet your staff would have a great time too
A nice, quick, informative video. Many thanks and much respect.
Great presentation, I learnt lots,thank you
I've never seen or heard of this quad-mount AA unit before, so this was very interesting - especially the lineage.
For a one-man operated AA gun, it's got a quite simple targeting setup, which looks like it would be rather something working as a deterrent against strafing aircraft rather than targeting some planes up above, because estimate aircraft lead position for shooting seems like a multi-crew operation, and there are some good British training videos for that on youtube.
I was thinking this as well. But then I was thinking about my own training and I was like, "oh, so you have to memorize the speeds of these various aircraft and then adjust to the situation", which is the point of tracers.
Video says its effective range was 1000 metres, therefore it was mainly used against low flying enemy planes and V1 buzz bombs.
I was today years old when I learned Sten was an acronym!
Mad me look up Bren as well…Brno and Enfield. Brno being Czech.
Great video. I remember the old Inglis sign and factory in Toronto. But by the time I saw it, they were only making washing machines and such.
Imagine this quad gun on a sherman hull..... Aka, the Canadian Skink!
Tested out in 1945, it was described as devastating, against ground targets of all kinds. However, the Luftwaffe was no longer considered a threat, so the Skink became "extindt"
That was a great report, on a system i knew nothing about!
Wow. Great information. I have never heard of this AA gun.
Give that man a medal he's like a walking encyclopaedia!! excellent info Jason keep it up Boss you a credit to the museum!
Like to see both Sentinel tanks the AC 1 and AC 4 in a video plus The Australian Armour & Artillery Museum needs to get the Australian experimental light tank for it's collection
More of the stug series I would love to see including the stug iv and the stuh 42
I read the memoires of a Canadian sergeant who served in Normandy. He recalled that the divisional AA Polstons were used in a ground support role at Falaise. Unfortunately, the result was a lot of friendly casualties.
Please provide the source as I cannot find any such references. I own a Quad Polsten in Ottawa, Canada.
@@majmikecalnan "Because We Are Canadians: A Battlefield Memoir" by Charles Kipp, 2005 published by Douglas and McIntyre.
It is an interesting book but one suspects the author of appropriating to himself other's experiences and otherwise telling a fish tale or two. Nevertheless, he tells a harrowing story, with his company shrinking down to the size of a platoon by winter of '44-45 due to the lack of replacements.
Jason you can do a video on anything you have in the museum, I don't care as they with all be very good I've no doubt.
I owned an early Inglis made 9mm Browning Hi-Power. I now can't remember the exact serial number but it was within the first 500 guns that they produced. The story is that as the Germans were coming in the front door of FN's factory in Liege, the Hi-Power plans were being smuggled out of the back door to be sent to England somehow. Presumably it was around the time of Dunkirk in May 1940. I think Inglis started producing the Hi-Power later on in 1940/41 I'm not sure about that though.
yeah, thats pretty cool. ill watch any presentation on any exhibit you guys have in the museum.
Hey Ausamas, really awesome that you have so many pieces of military history so maticulously preserved.
It looks as if you had enough armor and equipment to equip several armor brigades.
Are you guys getting ready for something? Just kidding 😂
Sherman Rocket tank ..... wish you all had the add on .. Enjoyed the video very much .. Ty for sharing !~
You are military museum master,love your knowledge and your documentary.
Nice to see some artillery getting its place in the sun. With good presentation like this can be every bit as interesting as a tank.
How interesting... this guy is a real asset to the museum
Never heard of it. Thanks for posting. From the old Aussie.
The way the gunner is in there, I half expected the thing to have legs. It looked like an early model Aussie Mech SPAA.
Great presentation. What a cool setup.
You should do a video on the Churchill flail or the m26
Be interesting to do a comparison with the US quad 50 cal system.
We wanna see ALL!!!
You guys got quite a shoutout on Mr. Hewes channel just uploaded.
Basically the most badass lawnmower engine run piece of equipment...
Very interesting Jason. Thank you
Great military equipment detail video
An amazing rare exhibit. Thank you.
I’m really enjoying all of these exhibit show and tell videos whatever they are. They all have an interesting story to share. Thanks guys for all that you do👍
More of the non tank or armoured car aspects of the museum would be appreciated, Jason. Enjoy your dives into the tanks ( Leopard episode was grouse), but mixing it up with the more esoteric aspects of the collection would be great as well.
Absolutely fascinating! Never seen one before ,or heard of it; please make more movies about your guns.
It looks like something you’d find while playing Halo. Particularly that armoured hatch to protect the gunner.
Like to see a review on the Saracen vehicle at some point. I remember that a military museum near Oakey, Queensland had one in driving condition in the late seventies. We had a Cadet camp at this military museum in 1977 ( Toowoomba State High School Cadet unit ), that was near Brookvale Park. They also had a DUKW amongst many other vehicles.
I've been to the Oakey museum, I've never heard of the Saracen, and I haven't been in quite a while, but the museum is a good aviation museum with a few other things as well. They also have open days every year with displays from the military, and adjoining army aviation training base, we often use to go because land owners got free admission as a thank you present for putting up with the helicopter training flights
@@cameronnewton7053 It wasn't at Oakey Air Museum, but near Brookvale Park near Jondaryan some 17km westwards from Oakey. The privately owned museum closed in the mid eighties.
@@mickypd1 ahh, okay, never heard of that one, probably doesn't help that it closed before I was born, but hey, that's neither here nor there...
That's a really cool piece of kit to learn about.
that is a super well done presentation for a pretty rare weapon, thank you
Wow a modern looking bit of kit for 1939.
Great video
Cheers
Brilliant mate thank you and Australian Armour for this presentation
Excelente el vídeo muy entretenido 👌👌👌👌
Good presentation, as a thought could you add a little cut in footage of the system in action?
Most unusual gun. Thanks for the explanation 👍
Very interesting & informative! Cool that the guns were made in Aus! Thanks Shane! 😃👍🇦🇺🦘!
A video about the sight and how they calculate speeds and distances to aim and shoot must be interesting.
Great video.
Would like to see Jason in the AC1 Sentinel as a counterpoint to the Chieftain.
THX for the short educative conclusion on this piece of the exebithion, more short stories on the other guns more then welcome
The emergence of drones seems to mean rustling around a museum to dust of the blueprints for these sort things could be quite handy.
Excellent presentation, thank you.
I get the feeling this kind of gun would be very useful for anti drone use today.
Excellent report 👌
Almost iconic image of “portable” high volume antiaircraft guns.
Interesting to know that the Holden Woodville plant in Adelaide made Polstens for Australia during the war.
initially conceived by the Polish, a distant predecessor to the mighty ZSU-23-4 by any chance? Have you guys got one of the american quad 50 cal mounts? That would be cool to have a short video on. Also, any hopes of maybe finding an M50 Ontos for the collection?
Those controls look very much like a gaming system :p But that is a nice bit of hardware, great video.
The same control stick as the tail Gunner in a B29.
would love to see the panzer IV J full tour
My father served in the artillery in WWII with the 2/16 so would love to see a run thru of the 25 pounder and it's limber etc
You may have already done this but it would be good to see some of the APC variants you have in the museum. All time periods, all countries/theatres.... 👍
I always wonder if those crews did wear earplugs (or any soldier in general)
That's a Beast of a Gun Platform, I wonder if it was ever considered to be mounted on a M3 Halftrack like the Quad 50?
Interesting construction. Perhaps they could have added a scene showing the cannons in action.
I'd love to see a video on that Alvis Saracen in the background
Jason, another Good Friday Vlog, great way to end the week.
An off topic question, with Army starting to replace various pieces of armour in the coming years, have you guys put your hands up to try and obtain an example of each of the M113AS4 and ASLAV and M1A1?
Is that possible?
Cheers,
Pretty cool mount
great video - love these walk rounds
well done Jason , you film it , and l'll watch it ( ps. l got your book on the Sentinel tank recently , it's a very good read , well done on that too )
Has to be time to show off the M113A1 fleet and what you guys are doing with them
Amazing quad pack anti aircraft gun platform those guns look so similar to a single barrel Oerlikon 20mm AA gun mount.
The sheet metal armor on that is quite interesting … almost looks like someone had an artistic flare
Thanks :)
Nice bit of kit 👍🇦🇺 great video.
I would LOVE to see that on the back of a heavy duty pick-up...
TECHNICAL style 😎
This type of multi barrel cannon was devastating against ground targets, infantry blood and guts everywhere.
I’ve been in Austria extensively. Never seen one of these.
I would be interested in knowing more about the effectiveness of the weapon during actual engagements with enemy aircraft and or ground targets.