Can Awareness Arise While on Psychiatric Medication?
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- Eckhart Tolle addresses the critical question of whether a person on psychiatric medication can still experience spiritual awakening. He explores the impact of these medications on the awakening process, acknowledging that while medication might obscure awareness in some cases, it is not necessarily true for all. Eckhart Tolle shares personal experiences and observations, highlighting that awareness can still arise even while on medication, depending on various factors such as the type of medication, duration, and the specific psychiatric condition.
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Eckhart Tolle is widely recognized as one of the most inspiring and visionary spiritual teachers in the world today. With his international bestsellers, The Power of Now and A New Earth-translated into more than 50 languages-he has introduced millions to the joy and freedom of living life in the present moment. The New York Times has described him as “the most popular spiritual author in the United States,” and in 2011, Watkins Review (now Watkins Mind Body Spirit) named him “the most spiritually influential person in the world.”
Eckhart’s profound yet simple teachings have helped countless people around the globe experience a state of vibrantly alive inner peace in their daily lives. His teachings focus on the significance and power of Presence, the awakened state of consciousness, which transcends ego and discursive thinking. Eckhart sees this awakening as the essential next step in human evolution.
What a beautiful Soul! To have the courage to stand up and offer himself as representation for millions of people! 🙏🙏🙏
Wow... " Nothing can stand against the power of awareness..." Thank you Eckhart.
Very TRUE 🙏
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Please don't thank a spiritual vampire who is amassing enormous wealth from your trusting nature, only to delude you completely. He describes reality fairly well, but listening to descriptions of reality has no value at all, and when you think it does, the descriptions become harmful, because you take them as fact without ever having perceived and understood the actual, which is the only thing that liberates. See how he has woven complacency and illusion into your mind and conditioned your brain to believe everything he says as fact and to think you have to practice. No - you have to see and understand what is, and that is not a practice. You do it naturally if or when you realize the importance of doing so. Tolle doesn't teach the importance of UNDERSTANDING at all. He teaches only to 'practice', i.e. to 'meditate', which brings in the meditator who makes real meditation impossible. Real meditation happens when we are observing what is because we seek to understand, to be aware, of what take place, because we see the importance of it. It will never happen any other way because that 'other way' is ego driven, energy profitable illusion. It profits the ego energetically but hijacts the movement from the free action of awareness and meditation and therefore destroys its healing action. Awareness is totally non-violent and won't correct you violently. So you can only discover the trap you are in and get yourself out of it. You have decided that Tolle's work is good, but I'm afraid, you are wrong. It is harming everyone who believes what he says, and that numbers into hundreds of millions of people. He has over $80 million of your money in the bank, by the way. It may be way more then that by now. Is that love, or is it obscene in a country where kids end up living in a car because their mum got cancer and couldn't afford the healthcare? Would love ever mimic all the worldly greed and comfort of the rest of the social and political and economic vampires destroying the Earth out of their blind greed? Please do ask yourself rationally. You can only trust awareness, what you can see. It shows only what is, as it is. It is never biased and you are always awareness and what is. So it's always there. How could a teacher help us find it? Only WE have to find it. And it is us. Thought is a mere happening in awareness - everything is a mere happening in awareness, even these words, even this world.
You took the time to write all that. Good luck in your healing.
beautiful
What a beautiful man asking the question. He was asking that for a lot of us. Thank you.
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I am a psychiatrist and have also taken psychiatric medication myself. I can share with confidence and certainty that it is completely possible to awaken while taking medication. Sometimes it helps rather than hinders.
Thank you 🙏
I suggest the perception of wakening is a false one, due to the psyc drugs. If you ever get off the dope and awaken, the difference will be startling. Good luck in getting free of the adult pacifier. You can do this!
Eckhart is amazing. He has his mind SO in that place that he can re-awaken you in 5 minutes just by talking. Im always amazed by feeling this sensation
So true
He’s so peaceful to listen to
NO MIND. Just being present
@@lalainamimi good point. he *IS* SO in that place, that (...)
"Moo" says the cow. The butcher, Tolle, licks his lips.
If you find peace of mind by medication, then medication helps. Thanks to medication I found it and awaken.
Thank you for this 🙏🏾
So that awakening would be called medication awakening. 😂
When one is high on meds, drugs, alcohol, any feeling is possible, for example awakening
@@naturecure280 your not high on psychiatric meds. Maybe some of strong ones, but not all of it.
im crying while he reads his question
I am taking psychiatric medication and I awakened. So yes it is possible. But I have to say the challenge of this kind of mind is wild.
Agree
People have no problem with taking medication for physical health conditions so why are mental health conditions any different? Of course it would be better if absolutely everyone could maintain their physical health and mental without medication but it's not currently possible for everyone everywhere to do so, no right, no wrong 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I am on Psychiatric medication, I struggled with the side effects…..let me tell you that I don’t struggle or have any side effects anymore and the meds work well for me now……since The Power of Now….
We must not ever put doubt in a person mind that does not good at all……..
Thank you Eckhart for your great teachings and your great responsibility…..
Thank you for all of who are Awakening 🙏
I'm on antidepressants. And I believe I am awakening. How did you know you have awakened. I feel like I'm still waiting for the big eureka moment
If you are on medications, drugs or alcohol, don't even think of enlightenment. You think you are awakened, coz you are just high on your dope. Try to feel that when you are sober, when you are absolutely sane, clean.
Good question! the western world is messed up, i never fit in, therefor was heavily medicated for years, i felt like i was losing my soul till i got off all of it. We need people like eckhart speaking on this
On a similar journey here. I got off all that junk awhile back too.
Without a doubt, this terrible society is driving people nuts.
@@waltergoring8428 it is man. Some days I see nothing positive about it. We are doing okay in terms of small comfort and convenience, but no one is happy and half the population is throwing down meds just to make it through a day. We are a truly sick society.
Prevention is better than cure, we need to teach the children of today the difference between themselves and their minds and the thoughts, feelings, fears and beliefs it produces 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Weldone on saving your soul!
West world is a so dumb
I was taking psychiatric medication for decades, and had never done ant spiritual work. I trained as an athlete and lived a very peaceful life to help maintain a balanced mind. One morning I experienced a huge awakening and experienced an instant ego death and could not swallow the medication that I had been taking daily. I was on over 20 tablets a day and suddenly I was choking when trying to swallow them. I had to stop taking them and experienced no withdrawal from this. I experienced a shift in consciousness overnight that connected me to the Zero point or the still point of now and this has a huge biological impact on your matter body that creates homeostasis and releases the perfect blend of hormones amongst many other wonderful healing benefits. I would not suggest anyone taking medication to suddenly stop as I did. I genuinely experienced an instant shift and a biological reset that enabled me to be free of medication. It was like having thousands of years of psychodynamic therapy overnight
Beautiful humble questioner, and beautiful answer. The questioner probably saved lives by starting this divine dialogue. Thank you.
What a powerful introspection on this topic... I hope this discussion reaches the most vulnerable
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Many shamans who are in trance states would therefore receive a serious diagnosis here in the West such as psychosis or catatonic schizophrenia.
There is a difference. People who are psychotic or catatonically depressed are in mental and emotional agony. They suffer and are often suicidal. Shamans aren’t. This is way more nuanced than you are making it seem to be.
I wasn't in agony, still got put in the mental ward my last go around.
Diagnosed schizoaffective disorder
@@PhoenixFeathers Look at the shamanic cultures such as in Siberia. The Shaman suffers a great illness (one that would most certainly put your average westerner in a psyche ward) and comes out the other end with gifts. The difference between them and us is that they have an experienced shaman who has already been through the process to guide them through their own process. They are viewed as useful and necessary to their peoples. It is even believed in these cultures that the longer the shaman suffers the stronger the gifts he comes out the other side with are.
@@PhoenixFeathers Modern society has no respect (and feels it has no need) for the prophets and healers of today. What was once of value, rare and cherished is now drowned out with a science that has no room for God.
Awakening means becoming more conscious. Psychiatric problems arise because of unconscious impulses and behaviors that arise from the subconscious. Allowing uncomfortable feelings to arise without labeling them or judging them is an important aspect of awakening. It is often referred to as The Dark Night of the Soul. It doesn't mean you're sick. It means you're human.
I awaken first and then have enough clarity to stop benzo addiction of 7 years
Same for me, I awakend and was able to stop benzo's
Weldone! Awakening is the real solution!👍
@@martijnkeulen5937Weldone bruh!👍
Still tappering ❤❤❤❤
There are many paths to the top of the mountain, as long as everyone ultimately reaches the summit what does it matter which path they take to get there 🙏. It's only the ego that deems one path superior and another inferior. Well done you, huge respect to you 🙏🙏🙏
Maybe it can for some as our paths are so unique. For me they did the opposite. I became numb and severely ill on them. Unfortunately I have since learned that there are growing numbers of people suffering in silence from the effects of these drugs.
On the other hand, psych med injury and coming off of them has been a near death experience that lead to deepening the awakening that had started before this unfortunate detour. It wouldn’t have been my choice to awaken this way because I wouldn’t wish torturous conditions like akathisia to anyone, but I guess ultimately all paths lead to the same place - the true nature of our being.
Grateful to see Eckhart address this topic and sharing such great wisdom around it 💜🙏 I feel that we are in dire need of loving communities and awakened guidance. It breaks my heart that even little children are being medicated nowadays.
Tappering off 20years of 4ml lorazapam (now at1 and a half, definitely a heros journey), the odd thing is that I was also on adderal and I was able to meditate completely silent in the heart. This brought about living in flow state. However my journey has always been seeking the nature of reality way before these circumstances, became the "STORY ".❤ ALL THE LOVE ALWAYS IN ALWAYS ❤❤❤❤
Same, I was forced to take drugs, they gave 10 times the dose for my body weight.
Long story, but it destroyed my credibility. I was going through a situational challenge that coincided with high level of family commitments. 45 and never had problems in active, responsible, high functioning life.
I had to spend years proving myself, lost relationships. Took myself off the anti depressants without doctors help.
Still never regained the relationship with oldest daughter, but dud redeem my worth to almost everyone else who mattered.
Sadly, a new wave of docs peddling anti depressants as if they are remedies, when it's very damaging.
@@coolwater55 agreed-allopathic drugs nearly ruined my life before I woke up just enough to see where I was headed. After 15 years I decided to get off their toxic drugs and make changes. I had no idea what I was in for, but it led me on a spiritual journey and has completely transformed my life. My ONLY credit to psychiatry or big pharma drugs is that they pushed me nearly to the point of death (at 42)-since then my mind and body have continually become stronger and healthier than when I was in my early twenties.
I was able to awaken on diazepam, but it was hard for me to get back into true self on medication. Now it's way easier for me.
Thank you for being that open, stranger 🙏it helps many people. Me at least 👍
What an absolutely amazing, empathic answer; so encouraging and supportive. Also wonderful that he discusses alternatives to medications and the rarely discussed misdiagnosis of spiritual emergence as mental illness. ❤
I agree beautiful said❤
I love Eckhart. Such a wonderful, kind, wise, compassionate, thoughtful, gentle human being with a wonderful sense of humor.
Thank you for bringing this awareness to the many, many people who I am quite sure are wondering about the topic. Very wise, thoughtful insight as usual from Eckhart. 🙏
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How can you not like Eckhart Tolle
i once forwarded his video to a friend. She complained, "He is so SLLLOOOWWWW!!!!!!" lol. Some people have no patience for Eckhart Tolle.
i'm a schizophrenic on antipsychotic medication, i always wanted to ask eckhart if awakening was possible with schizophrenia.. i guess it is... thanks eckhart!
I think it's a possible, many times is a better from being normal
I was able to awaken while taking Vyvanse and Venlafaxine (they help me having a less complicated life).
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I just stumbled upon this tonight...Eckharts explanation of the great sage Ramana Maharshi's story is one of the best things ive heard on the net..in the West he would of been put away in those early years in his teens yet he " became" one of the great spiritual teachers of all time ..wow❤.
I got teary-eyed from what Elkhart Tolle is doing as Being...
Finally this question is asked and addressed ❤
Horses for courses, there are currently 8 billion beautiful individual human beings on this beautiful blue planet and no 2 of us have all the same thoughts, feelings, struggles and gifts. Some people are not currently able to appreciate the beauty of absolutely everyone else because they suffer from the terrible affliction called judgement , there are many ways in which humans struggle and there are many different paths to freedom from suffering , including that of judgement of others 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Another good idiom John! You must know loads of them?😊love your comment too mate! I wrote one earlier about big pharma business but it was deleted? Mmmm, I wonder why?😂🙏
Very true, very well said. I've often heard in Eckhart's talks, he uses words like, "I will not advise you what decision to take, that's upto you.... ". What Eckhart does is provide a general broad framework of guidance and wisdom!
Grateful for your comment❤!
@@stephenflood3463 Hi Stephen mate, thank you. I'm a huge fan of sharing and supporting each other through life's journey and sometimes we are all stronger than at other times in our life. Together we are all stronger than any of us are on our own, sometimes we are the givers and sometimes the receivers of support and this in my opinion is part of life's wonderful beauty 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@zaringonda6068 I agree, part of what makes Eckhart so good and so helpful to listen to is he doesn't tell anyone anything, he merely shares his own opinions, beliefs and experiences with us all. Eckhart has a wonderful understanding of the human mind and how we suffer because of our relationship with it and his explanations help millions of people find a path to a much happier and more peaceful relationship with their minds 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@zaringonda6068 I agree, Eckharts advice on this topic is outstanding.🙏
I think a lot of persons working for psychiatric institutions are very far from real compassion and empathy.
A lot of diagnosis is about putting people into boxes instead of getting into their essence or understanding where they are coming from
and how to help them.
There is no normal - how everyone should be. Because everyone is different. Everyone has their one set of unique features and how they view the world.
Find out your strength and help the world by showing that light to others. Dont hide your uniqueness because other people are scared of your light.
Decolonizing the mind
it takes persistence. Key is not paying attention to the thoughts, then they subside of there own accord. The challenge is that a thought is a thought. Awareness that works in this case is like a spark, a flash, not another internal dialog
Yes, It is a necessary question in my case and a beautiful and full of hope and light answer. Thanks both for make the question and Eckhart for Answer.
Is the conscience Itself speaking. Thanks a lot.❤
All Awakening needs is an opening, and the process of Awakening is then irreversible. Joyous joyous tidings ❤❤
I was also struggling with this question, it's so relevant for me. Thank you, Awareness (or Universe, or God, or mySelf, etc), for guiding and providing with everything that is needed! Grace is working!
I am a conscious human, but at the same time, I struggle deeply with an imbalance and depression and anxiety. I’ve contemplated going on medication and I’m not a fan, but it’s different when you feel you absolutely need it. yes you can go and heal with ayahuasca and psychedelics and other alternative methods but that’s not guaranteed either. It’s a tough thing when you’re not in a great place mentally conscious or not.
You must to be a bit of an adult but it doesn't
Ok thanks Krishna mantra I don't have to be in my house and it
Sorry to bother seeing your email to me please see where we do to get it done for a week after I love cats so much
Sorry to be able and universe and it will make sense
Oh no that's so good of him and the intellectual one with you and you can understand why it doesn't look different and you are that you can do anything with me in your house for the love for the spiritual mind is the best for the rest to do the job to the most interesting person who lives at home to help you are not
I've been pondering this for a while too. Eckhart's first response there was so perfect.
Medication helped me to awaken. Trust me it’s possible ✨
It happened to me once while drinking
My experience is that neither Psychiatric Medication, Coffee or Alkohol is disturbing the awaking.
I can add chemo to that list. ...who knew. 🤷❤️
Amazing! We can safely add cannabis to the list as well 💚
Got awakened after 8 months of being of Dextroamphetamine (got diagnosed with ADHD). Met my twin flame, got awakened. Still on meds, all going fine ))
Awareness is always rising whether you’re aware of it or not… but it’s quicker without any disturbance ….hence meditation ✨
I was able to experience presence and awakening on medication! I was taking Escitalopram (and still do).
But when the effect of that medication is gone, the feelings you are struggling with will inevitably come back STRONGER. In the end, you will have to face it completely without any help from anything or anybody. Don't worry. No matter what happens, Awareness will always be there for you.
@@Perujay-dl2bs that was actually 14 years ago :) for me taking medication helps me tremendously and is a necessary part of my well being and mental health. It doesn’t make me happy though; it is a tool I use to increase my sense of well being and stability so that I can do the necessary work on myself to experience healing and presence. That is great if you don’t need medication; some of us do and that’s okay too. The quality of life I experience with it is immeasurable. :)
@@Perujay-dl2bs That was actually 14 years ago. :) For me taking medication helps me tremendously and is a necessary part of my well being and mental health. It doesn’t make me happy though; it is a tool I use to increase my sense of well being and stability so that I can do the necessary work on myself to experience healing and presence. That is great if you don’t need medication; some of us do and that’s okay too. The quality of life I experience with it is immeasurable. :)
@@Perujay-dl2bsStart Jogging, No need for medication
If you Out there have anything, you can Shift it through recognising it, through awareness 😊❤
Eckhart always NUMBER ONE ❤️
A greatly nuanced answer by Eckhart
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Nothing can stand between yourself and the power of awareness!!I'm Loving it!!!
Love and light everyone. You are the Awareness that is our true higher self. What you are aware of is not you, and anything in your head will be subsided.
Hello eckhart. I take medication. I have an infernal ego which is noisy and death or anti life and chaos. As for the medication, I take abilify. I try to use consciousness and awareness but I see my ego pulls all the egoic energy of the world and overpowers me. It's bad because self awareness and my righteous consciousness fight the egoic mind and lots lots of negativity. I often say that science sleeps with ignorance and negativity. Take care all.
I Take seroquel. Don't fight your Ego. Don't try to geht somewhere else. You are already there. Just be and try to know this. The Story of Ramana ist a key for me. Just being. Just sitting there. Doing nothing. Already arrived. Good luck for You. I started Eckharts Way fifteen years ago. First ist was hard. But IT gets easier every day.
Yes it can.
You using??
Thank you for that question. It gives me great hope, I am aware, but at the same time taking medication. I have tried ti get off it 4 times, but the withdrawal is so difficult to deal with. I will consider what has been said and see if I can progress forward.
🙏✨Very intelligent question and enlightened answer. ❤
I dream of a medical class with this profound AWARENESS.
Someone is there because the light of the rays of universal CONSCIOUSNESS are infinitely bright ✨and the more darkness there is the more you can see them.❤
So grateful 💓🙏✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨🌺
Phill Stutz , Barry Michels are top .
@@portasegura-rn9fi Thanks for sharing them❤️🙏
@@portasegura-rn9fi PS I found the text by Dr. Ryke Geerd Hamer entitled "Testament of the New Germanic Medicine" really interesting. They made his life impossible but his studies are very interesting
What a beautiful and compassionate answer. Thank you Eckhart.
Thank you Eckhart… this is so powerful to so many people who feel stigmatised by the Western views on mental illness. ❤ much love. This has made me tear up for the people who have been defined by the harsh labels of Western Countries
Jag hoppas och tror att jag trots livslång medicinering med psykofarmaka. Kan vara medveten och befinna mig i nuet.❤
Eckhart is a cool man 💐
Beautiful question. Beautiful answer and dialogue.
Loved it!
And I totally understood this becoz I am actually the patient of psyzophenia!!
Many thanks. Peace ✌️
Great, thank you, Eckhart, I agree with you and what you say is helpful.❤🙏
Amen. Love and needed this. 😢
Thanks for sharing this important information for those who are suffering with mental afflictions 😊💜🙏
I needed to listen to this so bad! ❤ Thank you.
Me too...🙏
Thank you Eckart❤️. Thank you to all his followers too😘
Echart tolle is the combination of beauty and pure intelligence❤
Good question
Awareness is healing. What a wisdom❤
That was powerful!
that made me crying ....
Thank you for all you do, you are much appreciated 🌘
Very courages to ask that question. I also have been diagnosed with a mental condition, and I used to take medication. For me through meditation, crisis my consciousness awakened very quick and I somehow got paranoid and psychotic. At that time I wasn’t really aware of the essence of awakening and rather went on an ego trip. So yeah I can relate, what I experienced when I stopped taking the medication, was that my my awareness and sensitivity heightened very quickly again and even though I felt and still feel better I think doing it with a physician who is aware would have be the better idea. Hope this can help anyone.
Absolutely! Thank you so much for asking this question and to Eckhart for such a kind, compassionate, and direct response. He really surprised me with the simple practicality of that answer. This has helped to stem my own fear and shame and is similarly applicable for those of us struggling with how to handle the reality of our pain medications, as well. 🙏🏼
so sweet,teary eyes
Yes, really respect him
That was just beautiful to witness.
Thank you. A much needed reminder. So grateful
Well said❤
Thank you 💜🙏💜
Microdosing psyocibin was so much better for me that horrible SSRIs, it also had zero side effects.
Thank you . ❤
Thanks
We psychiatrist are diverse. I often suggest talk therapy, mindfulness, whole foods, sobriety and exercise as the first step for healing and then recommend medication if it might help. It's always up to the patient to decide if they want medicine but in extreme cases I sometimes encourage it.
If someone is severely mentally ill and doesn't want medicine I accept it fully but do feel sad as their lives can be tragic.
An important discussion. Thank you, Eckhart ❤️
One of the wisest people on the planet
Thankyou … ❤❤❤
Regards from Brazil ❤
Best question ever
Thank you so much to the questioner and to ET of course!
Great question and awesome answer!
Very beautiful answer🥰
The game changes when it dawns on you that you are not human.. Building on top of that is unnecessary
Gracias.
I started today again on meds I'm tired of repetive thoughts I came to watch to be present
Greetings from Venezuela, South America. 🇻🇪🖐️
fantastic
Thank you
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you 🙏❤️🪽🕊️💖🙏
Please dear Eckhart 🙏 talk hours and hours about this question and even write a book. It's 10 years been now I'm on anti depressant and i feel it robed me of my life and I can't leave it because of its withdrawal effects
Dr joe dispenza is life changing ❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you so very much. I've been wanting to stop my meds, I do not believe myself to be ill, just different than some. I appreciate the insight and incredible knowledge.
A drug is a drug is a drug. They are a hindrance. I have some friends who take meds and some friends who do not on this journey and those who do not take drugs have a higher connection and more success to the awakening process. It can be done either way but completely clean is best.
Hi, from Mauritius
I've been on zoloft for 13 years and colonzopan for 10 years. It's has not stopped me from this process. Although I did get of the colonzapan. And I am currently tapering off the zoloft. I hope this can help someone.
Clonazapam is very addictive, it's a tranquilizer of sorts. Zoloftade my head feel like spinning off. Situational depression pr challenges have been treated as depression by so many doctors. Most drugs are addictive.
I took myself off all of them. But not soon enough, it destroyed my integrity of who I was, and some very important relationships.
I awakened and then had the internal tools necessary to realize that I no longer needed to rely on benzodiazepines, adderall, and even “natural medicines” like cannabis and kratom - all I needed to rely on was myself, nature, my dog, exercise and leaders in consciousness and spirituality like Eckhart Tolle. You can become dysfunctional for a while because your body needs time to adjust to new baseline, but it’s worth it.