Rough Landing DLC Review | Mosin Nagant | Sniper Elite 5
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- In this video I review the Rough Landing DLC pack for Sniper Elite 5.
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Thank you for clearing up my confusion over the bridge.
I was hoping that the exfiltration was a false ending and there would be a bomb in the middle of the bridge you'd have to go back for. Then being ambushed by snipers would have been such a great little surprise.
The lack of enemy snipers has been disappointing. SE5 as a whole has been a lot easier than 3 & 4. I’d like to see the radioman brought back but with the alarms. I’ll intentionally set off the alarms just to have more enemies to kill. I wish they’d have the enemies swarm attack on the harder level settings. I think the enemy ai was better on se4
Especially considering in the trailer you see two of them standing by the furthest crash site looking towards the bridge but they are not there in the final product. Even the checkpoint at the south end of the bridge has a sniper in the tower in the trailer.
@@BrutalBarracuda yes I’ve just watched that trailer again and the amount of NPCs in general looks way higher than what we actually got. It’s a really weird outcome that we’ve got isn’t it, feels really odd to be so underwhelmed.
@@BrutalBarracuda that's inflation for you I'm afraid. Rebellion's supplier of enemy soldiers put up their prices so Rebellion had to make some cuts. If they had wanted to put an appropriate amount of enemy soldiers in they would have had to up the price by 50% ;)
@@mumblecake251 🤣
Biggest flaw in SE5 AI in campaign is they're much less aggressive, never push and too afraid to fight Karl. Even Jager is don't like push.
What frustrated me the most is in SE5 Survival mode AI is just like in SE4! They're always try to swarm player, very aggressive and very fun to play.
Shame that I really like gun gameplay in SE5 but fighting enemies in campaign is turned me off.
Video idea: Ranking all SE5 maps from best to worst
Maps, missions and weapons worst to best.
Spy Academy is my favourite SE5. The worst could be any number of them.
I think that SE4 had much better maps in general, and more interesting missions.
So much so that I've been playing SE4 more than 5 lately
The worst = Occupied Residence. Too easy to exfiltrate
Wolf Mountain is worst map for sure, maybe worst in series
While most of maps is mediocre but I still enjoy but not Wolf Mountain
It's boring, short and layout is bad
Great video review brutal! love your indepth break down!
As a person whose been waiting for the mosin because he thought to himself “oh boy, if the kar98 is this strong I can’t wait to see the mosin!
So with that knowledge, it’s no wonder that my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Solid details on the DLC content, I appreciate it my friend!
Would love to see the rifle iron sights be adjustable for range. Thought this map was less populated than it could have been. Went over that bridge twice just because I must have missed something, but no need to go even once. Still it should be an interesting invasion map.
Ha! I saved the bridge for last, then scoured that thing back and forth 3 times! Glad I didn't actually miss anything, but now I wish that I had. Spot on review. We do need more enemies, more vehicles, random patrols, and that big, final challenge.
I entirely agree on SE5 being way too hand holdy in terms of difficulty. I was really hoping they would eventually be able to give us a mission just as if not more challenging than Deathstorm Part III, however the AI themselves are made to be easy mode. There's no radio operators that overwhelm you with reinforcements, no Jager or Valkyrie Jager troops to soak up your poorly placed shots, no spotters to force you out of power positions, and so forth. SE4's enemies actually functioned so well, I have to question why they did this. Was it for the casual audience they anticipated? Was it bad programming? We'll never know.
100% agreed 👍
Invasion Mode is why the game is so easy
Cheers Brutal, good work!
Thanks. Appreciate the honest thoughts & review.
Nice review. Thanks 👍🏼
Bought the DLC but have yet to play. Thanks for the review. Disapointing to hear about the Mosin. While I enjoy different types of rifles on different maps and to keep things fresh, the Mosin was my overall favorite in SE4. Not sure why they nerfed it like that... Strange decision.
It is a concern that after all the clamour for the Mosin and its historical status in the game as an elite long-range rifle, Rebellion has gone and pitched it as a medium-weight that doesn’t really do anything particularly well. Are they listening to the fans? Or deliberately goading us? It’s almost as if they said okay, yeah whatever, well here you go, hope you like it but honestly we couldn’t really care either way.
It's even weirder when you think having a strong Mosin would help boost DLC sales... Now there's even less incentive to buy it.
Spot on as always.
About the sniper challenge you fantasied about.. that is a brilliant point taken 💫
Good review BB - as always!
It is indeed a great fun invasion map - on authentic. There have been loads of skilled players on in the last 48hrs and I’ve had a fabulous time with some of them - especially the mobile ones.
Odd decision to nerf the famed Moisin. Deffo a missed opportunity for a massive shootout on the bridge.
I collected what seemed like 20 satchel charges - only needed 2! Generally fewer mines to collect.
Perhaps some new melee kill animations?
AND ………. I could actually defuse mines and booby traps (even in authentic!!!). Hoorah!!!!!
Ah ha, I hadn’t tried defusing mines on this level. Will give that a go. Thanks for mentioning it.
OK. Interesting. Would you say that reduced numbers of Ai on this level has helped make Invasion mode more evenly matched?
I also thought there would be something stronger with the bridge, enemy wise at least or a side mission. Made it feel like maybe they rushed the DLC possibly?
Another excellent review. I think you’ve gone a little easy on Rebellion this time round, because to be fair it’s glaringly obvious that they’ve dumbed down this mission after initially planning a far greater spectacle, something we have been craving for ages! You will have seen the comments on Reddit about the difficulty and I’m glad you have addressed that forthrightly as it is a huge disappointment for veterans of the series.
I didn’t want to get into the bridge issue on Reddit because it would potentially spoil the “surprise” for others. Jeez was I annoyed about that damn bridge. I concluded after an hour of going back-and-forth that they had removed a lot of content, exactly as you have laid out, as from the mission intelligence gathered along the way, I was excitedly expecting a big shoot out… which never came. The end of the mission was therefore another colossal letdown. I felt the same way at the end of this mission as I did after I had killed Moller in mission 9. Deeply annoyed to be frank.
It seems pretty clear that Rebellion has had some major changes of direction during the development of #5. We can put some of the shortcomings & bugginess of the initial release down to the pandemic, and the need to meet certain deadlines. I will never believe in a million years that Loose Ends wasn’t originally planned to be a full mission with a big finale. In the DLC, the story has withered away - with the death of Moller nothing sequential has evolved from Landing Force, Conqueror or Rough Landing - yet they would have you believe that Karl found some Kraken related intelligence in Rough Landing according to the mission debriefing??? I have been through all the collectables from Rough Landing and cannot find anything remotely Kraken related. So I conclude that they’ve just made that last bit up in a vain effort to tie something together. Well it’s not working.
But after all the complaints (and you have hinted at this in your review), the bottom line is that this is an excellent map for 1v1 Axis Invasion. This becomes very evident immediately you start playing Authentic difficulty games as either Karl or the Invader. There was a whole bunch of Authentic games on the first night after the DLC was released and it was great fun playing them, and notably a lot harder than previous levels. (Another clue is the distinct lack of mines available to Karl on this level.) And this is my conclusion - Rebellion has changed tack and decided to develop maps for Invasion over campaign. They are changing the development brief halfway through and curtailing the content and difficulty of the maps in favour of 1v1 Axis Invasion, except they keep leaving annoying clues as to what they originally intended in the game just to frustrate us! They must have data that says 1v1 Axis Invasion is the way to go otherwise they wouldn’t have done it.
Time will tell whether or not their fanbase agrees. Personally I think there’s a whole bunch of changes they will need to make to keep maps like this interesting for veteran Invasion players. For example they have to do away with the stupid Focus skill that ruins tense games if Karl elects to play SE (Hard) or lower. Why should Karl be able to see through walls? It is infuriating for the Invader to spend all that time locating Karl without using the phone, and stealthing into an ambush position undetected, only for you to get a sticky grenade on the head because Karl is scanning ahead with Focus mode… silly, unrealistic and basically mandated cheating!
Anyway another great review and thanks for taking the time to deliver the best content on our favourite game.
I think Invasion has taken off more than anyone anticipated it would. Its a great addition to the game. But they shouldn't be dumbing down the missions for it. As for the intel that relates to Kraken, I'm pretty certain they are talking about the film cannister taken from the reconnaissance planes. They are indicating that the planes found evidence that Kraken has not been completely destroyed. And yes focus mode should never have been introduced into the game and it 100% ruins Invasion.
@@BrutalBarracuda I wondered whether it would be the film canister but the lac of content relating to it makes the continuation of the Kraken theme tenuous at best. It struck me in Landing Force and definitely in Conqueror that we’d lost the overall purpose to the missions, the thread that was holding the whole thing together, building towards a grande finale. But thanks for pointing it out as I think my annoyance about the bridge has probably overridden my objectivity!
@@BrutalBarracuda Yes I agree that there is clearly a massive compromise w.r.t. Invasion. Me and my two sons all play the series and we had a good chat about Rough Landing last night. We talked about the amount of times we replayed the SE4 Deathstorm series, about how challenging it was to even achieve Authentic+. The unanimous conclusion was that this latest release is the nail in the coffin for campaign replayability for SE5.
It is interesting that my one son has totally lost interest in Axis Invasion and consequently isn’t playing SE5 at all any more. He got bored playing noobs on easy difficulty and very frustrated with the skills available to experienced (40 score) Karl on SE (Hard). The other son tends to play mostly within a group of friends - only Authentic - sometimes he will sit for a couple of hours and just smash noobs on Atlantic Wall and Occupied Residence as a way to decompress from his busy day at work. (I’ve watched him doing this and he’s not even thinking about it, just autopilot.)
I am still playing Axis Invasion and building a group of PlayStation friends around the world, its starting to pay dividends as there are enough guys out there wanting to tough it out on Authentic who want to find these difficult games without having to wade through all the noobs to get there. It’s definitely the right way for me to go about it because I am on the console and at a tremendous disadvantage in CQC versus PC players. (My two sons kick my arse every time as they are both on PC.)
In time I think we will look at Sniper Elite 5 as the release where Rebellion learned the hard way you cannot have your cake and eat it. Diehard campaign players with no interest in PvP are going to lose interest in this release real quick. There’s just nothing to keep you going back. But Axis Invasion has brought a whole new level of interest and if that gets you going then you’ll keep coming back. The challenge for me will be whether there are enough Authentic players that feel the same and are available for a game when I want to play. The risk that Rebellion is taking is they are turning off the campaign replay players in favour of Axis Invasion players. Time will tell if this is the way to go.
Exactly, having a proper hard difficulty will keep veterans of the series coming back. Its no fun for us to easily breeze through the missions, we need to be challenged and unfortunately SE5s Authentic difficulty is hell and gone from the Authentic difficulties we have come to know and love from SE3 and SE4. I myself, have also quit Invading players because I too am just bored of invading either noobs on Atlantic wall, or good players who play on Hard (Sniper Elite difficulty) just so they get their focus mode and can up there Invasion kill counts. As you say hopefully Rebellion will learn from SE5 to make SE6 amazing.
the big hard anti consumer point is that the servers and the community are only going to be available for a limited time. and while that didnt bother me with the multiplayer modes in #3 and #4 as i never touched them at all it is apparent that as of now the "together" content has creeped up on the solo content and is going to replace and devalue it forever to an extent - while the campaign levels in previous games could be enjoyed 100% like they were designed to be at release.
my theory has nothing to do with playtime at all that is just mouthwash for greedy corporate pigs. whaat really drives a salesman into these decisions is the cash: #5 has way more and more expensive weapon dlc than any of its predecessors. so in order to extract as much cash from the pvp community they cannot allow content to be played without creating fomo for the next paid shiny bangbang. i did not need any weapon dlc in #4 but i may feel an exponentially stronger need to buy all of them in #5. and thats manipulative as it is disgusting.
Yep, I think I agree with everything you have said. I'm a late adopter of this series (just got playing it the last year and have binged 4,5,2 remastered and all the DLC) and I don't think I am a great games player (my multiplayer record shows that) but I did find this easy to complete and the low number of enemies was apparent. BUT, still enjoy and love the series. Thanks for your videos!
Thanks, although i do have to say you gotta give SE3 a go, its fantastic!
@@BrutalBarracuda hunting a copy down as I type!
From what I can tell, the amount of enemies populated on the map vary by each section. I find them to be less populated in the forest area and more populated in the urban industrial areas. Which makes sense when you think about it.
Awesome 👍☕️
Summef up my thoughts perfectly.
Thanks for vídeo i liked
Also with what you were saying in the video about the bridge imagine that did happen where Vogel appeared on the bridge with a bunch of guards and there were snipers watching Karl form a distance, they have a 'chat' maybe Vogel asks Karl to hand over the Film and he will spare his life but Karl refuses and just when Vogel is about to kill Karl the Pilots with resistance come to Karls rescue giving him opportunity to run for cover and has to then fight his way off of the bridge, Vogel escapes but then in response has to up security in the final mission Kraken awakes which explais why it is so much more difficult than the others.
Yes I agree, the new dlc was a bit to easy on authentic, but fun,I completed the dlc on both ps5 and 4,in 3 hours on authentic, would of been good if there was a whole panzer division on the bridge,so I could snipe at my heart's content 😀
The Mosin isn't that bad really, I used it in this mission on Authentic. I still like the Enfield and K98 best though. One of the best missions without a doubt yet.
The Mosin is great. With how insanely controllable it is, if they'd made it a guaranteed one shot kill monster, or given it 1000+m/s muzzle velocity, it would have been overkill.
As it stands, I find myself debating which rifle to go with, and the Mosin is definitely in the mix. That's how it should be. There shouldn't be one obvious choice, with everything else taking a back seat.
I agree with you as well that this game is too easy. I like(d) the challenge of these games.
I've been following you since this game came out, keep it up I love your stuff.
Have they started reusing SE4 assets?
The DLC and the game in general seems a bit "phoned in", especially when it came out nearly 2 years later than they said.
I really hope to see SE6 next year and that they put some real thought into it because SE5 seems like low effort SE4 DLC.
Its possible that some stuff gets reused but I've not really noticed. I just hope they don't release SE6 on older generation consoles. I understand it sells more copies but it just holds the game back.
Se4 as a whole is much better than se5. It also seems like the graphics and graphical designs have gone backwards. it’s like they’re using 1930’s trucks in se5 but had newer better graphically designed 1940’s trucks in se4.
Don’t even get me started on the body boxes
@@BrutalBarracuda something in the back of my head told me that the station house next to the bridge was the same asset and the Regilino building next to the bridge. Could be wrong though.
I totally agree with SE6 being new-gen only. I was saying the same before SE5 was announced but I understand why at the time since the PS5 wasn't really available.
It's a shame that Sniper Elite have veered so far from sniping and more towards trench warfare and up close and personal fighting. Also a shame there are no options for 2 or 3 times the number of enemies.
I still bought season pass 2. Thankfully the price was reduced so maybe they listened to the complaints. SE5 is the only game I own for my PS5 and will be until they release SE6 or if another Metal Gear Solid comes out.
I even bought PSVR2 hoping that stereoscopic 3D would be hidden in the options like the previous SE games but no. I keep badgering them about it every post they make.
@@evilutionltd Im thinking about getting PSVR2 but only if Rebellion port Sniper Elite VR over to it. Also i hope Sniper Elite VR 2 is in the works.
Patrols would be nice, with all the paths around. I'm surprised how few panzerfaust troopers there were (if any?); just parking in the top of the windmill silo is too easy. Real Germans wouldn't hesitate to just spray lead through the wood I imagine, but these all need to run up in your face first. The tanks need a gunner who's willing to get up on the machine gun, like in Secret Weapons. The sniper trap sounds like a fun idea, too bad they didn't think of it. The board is nice, but they all seem just small compared to SE4. I thought there would be more AI movement using vehicles after seeing the first board, but seems like that went by the way side. Definitely would be cool to have field radio operators with the field units, and officers who actually use the radio installations we keep running into. The shu mine is cool, but I miss trip mines. Be nice if the shu mine had a trip string mode rather than 5 and 30 second firecrackers. base mode, string mode, 10 second firecracker mode.
I like SE4, I like SE5, but I just don't get that looking forward to "play it again" for the campaign boards with SE5 as I had with SE4. Seems to be limited in the creativity options in how you can approach a lot of the target groups. Invasions in both are a lot of fun. I don't do multiplayer.
Has the game received any improvement patches since its release or only DLC's?
I've started to play SE4 and absolutely loved it. Thinking about getting SE5 (on PS5) but I can't stop seeing comments and reviews saying SE4 is way much better..
Some games need a few patches to really shine, is SE5 one of them?
A good and well balanced review. I have read all the comments and I can agree to most but, there is always a but……. I think everyone is going to have differing opinions on a game and some games do not always meet people’s expectations. I loved playing SE4 and I can remember almost giving up on it as I thought a level I got stuck on was impossible but I learned how to play it a bit better and eventually completed every mission many, many times and I never got bored of it. I am 71, play on PS4 just for entertainment and this game has more hours on it for me than any game I have ever played.
I almost didn’t get SE5 as there were so many negative comments about it but I bit the bullet, so to speak, and I love it. This new mission I also thought was a tad easy but the map itself is, for me, stunning. I do tend to have favourite maps that I just go to for the fun of it and this map is one of those. I like to take my time, two hours on this map is not unusual for me, I wish they would have ration packs so I could sit, make a brew, and admire the scenery 🤣🤣🤣.
I can understand that hardened players may be disappointed how easy this map can be and I respect their views on wanting a harder challenge but a lot of players also play just for the fun of it and this map is fun for us armchair snipers. I do hope it is a test bed for introducing NPCs as I really liked that aspect also the fact that the ‘map with scribbles on’ at the resistance camp adds to the main map. I like the alternate starting points in all the maps, they do make it a different experience so yes, I do like it as a map for my way of playing and I will be creeping round it for many games to come.
I'm all for easy difficulties being added so as many people as possible can get into the series, regardless of there skill level. But what I don't want is for the players who love a real challenge, the challenge of SE3s Authentic (which was permadeath lets not forget) or SE4's Authentic Plus to be ignored basically. Sniper Elite 4 added Authentic Plus 6 months after launch. SE5 has been out almost a year and we have heard nothing about Authentic Plus and SE5 needs it more than SE4 ever did.
Thanks for the review of the mission, I have to wait until Monday to buy it but if you gave it the thumbs up then I’m sure it’ll satisfy my needs!
I can take the continued destruction of AA guns as a secondary mission requirement as they were seen as a genuine threat in WW2, so I’m happy with that.
Maybe BB we could suggest mission requirements to Rebellion? Submit an idea for a mission that they could develop into future DLC or SE6? Hopefully someone from Rebellion will see this and contact us the players to submit ideas for full missions or improvements to missions?
If they ever wanna contact me about a mission idea they know where to find me! I'd love that!
@@BrutalBarracuda Hopefully they read these comments and could post an e-mail address to Rebellion to submit suggestions?
Is there crowbar and bolt cutters in this map? I must be blind I can't find any.
The whole point of the different weapon capability is to make you adapt how you approach a mission.
I agree, it was too easy even on authentic. The bridge was a disappointment too, agreed.
played invasion on the map. man the rail yard alone is good for sniper vs sniper
Agreed! 😄
I'd like to see something like they did at the end of SE4 Deathstrom. when they bring in extra reinforcements and you've got to fight your way out. I feel like there where ALOT of places in this game where there could've been more snipers and or people.
well made map with great graphics and detail..great job rebellion...could have done with more enemys...hope we get a snow and ice dlc next time
On the bottom level of bridge standing in one spot you can hit all 3 eagles
I 100% agree. I genuinely commend your passion and enthusiasm for Sniper Elite, but I won't be buying any more DLC. I've tried to remain optimistic, but the lack of additional difficulty options has almost made Sniper Elite 5 completely unplayable for me. If a game can't provide tension or challenge my ability, I get bored VERY quickly. It's a shame because even small gameplay changes would enhance the experience: permadeath, disabled manual and autosaving, removed bullet tracers and sniper glare indicators, improved enemy accuracy, damage, reaction time, etc. I also think some of your own ideas for additional content (such as climactic setpieces) are awesome -- I'd gladly have you on my team if I was developing Sniper Elite 5. :)
Thanks, yes you're right, it would be very easy to make a harder difficulty, I just don't understand why Rebellion haven't done it yet. I'd love to work with them to make a BRUTAL difficulty.
@@BrutalBarracuda I'm sure you'd do an amazing job. When I first saw the trailer for the Rough Landing DLC, I was hoping it would be a 'Bridge Over The River Kwai' scenario where you had to destroy the bridge with explosives, but hearing that's it's merely an environmental feature is very disappointing.
small question for expert about the game pass/sniper elite and DLC: we play with a friend in coop in the campaign mode. We are interested in the DLCs but the question is: do we both need to buy the DLC or one can buy and launch the mission inviting someone else ? thanks in advance
I can confirm that both players MUST have the DLC installed.
@@BrutalBarracuda sad news but thank you for your quick reply. have a nice day.
As an expat, living here in the Philippines, the Season 2 pass is only about 14 quid, which makes it a really good deal.
Great review Mr Barracuda,i just went ahead and bought season 2 pass outright on day one...not had chance to play it yet but as I have the whole weekend free I think this weekend I will be mostly hunting Nazis....👍
Happy hunting!
You won’t need the whole weekend mate, its so easy you’ll be done and dusted in a couple of hours.
Yeah i thought this new mission looked very similar to the 3rd mission in se4 I was saying the other day it reminds me of the 3rd mission
Video i would like to see is your ideas on locations they can use for future missions.
I find myself using my scoped M1911 for most of a level in SE5, they should have called this game Pistol Elite 5
maybe they could have different modes for whether or not invasions are on or not-maybe more enemies for no invasions.
Edit-also i thought the mission with the tank division would have more tanks rather than just one working and just an armoured car.
Queston.
I am at “level” 57 now. How far does that go ? Level 99 ? 🤔 no idea
They really did the Mosin dirty and officially made it the Garbage Rod in SE5.
I know alot of people are upset about the ballistics of the Mosin in sniper elite 5 but this is the most realistic iteration of the Mosin in sniper elite as 7.62x54r is more comparable to 303 British than it is to 30.06 or 8mm mauser. 7.62x54r is the caliber of the Mosin and it is the measurements of the round 303 measures out to 7.7x54mm while 30.06 is a massive 7.92x63mm and 8mm is 8x57mm
Has Rebellion said how many season passes they intend to release? Just wondering... I'm assuming 3 at the minimum, maybe 4? Wish we had quality missions like Deathstorm...
They have not, but the more missions they release the better.
Deathstorm 2: Infiltration was the best out of the 3
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That was a good one lol
I like this level... for more enemies, let them sound the alarm...
Loved the level but as you say the bridge need more action on it
On the roadmap season 2 on pictures 3 we can see a similiar smg a M3A1 Grease Gun. One of the added rifles in future maybe is a Carcano from SE3. On picture 2 we have probably M1D Garand. A sniper version this rifle. On picture 4 this is a pistol Mauser C96 and one of his version a M712 Schnellfeur.
Sorry for english, i still learn it.
Someone on Reddit noticed by comparing the images of Season 2 that the Type 99 Arisaka rifle should be included next.
@@mwrench4185 maybe beacouse before WW1 Japan goverment buy a many Carcano rifle. But a plot this game an Arisaka rifle maybe a good choose but we can't ignore a both rifle: Carcano and Arisaka.
It's not a Garand. I'm sure of that.
I originally thought it might be the M1941 Johnson rifle, but the more I look at it, the more I'm convinced it's the carbine version of the Vickers-Armstrong Pedersen rifle.
That also fits the game's story, because it's a rifle that was trialed by both the Brits and the Japanese.
Weapon pack 11 in the 3rd part of season pass 2 is definitely an Arisaka.
RIP mosin. It was my favorite rife in SE4, now it feels left behind. I'd like to see something that can compete with the springfield.
Bring back the mighty Carcaaaaaaaanooooooo!
I’ve got to say it feels like they took the criticism from the last season quite well and gave way more content to us as a result.
For me the mission is all I’m interested in, I always like new weapons but I have a very specific play style and love my weapons to be barely audible and unfortunately the all the new weapons are too loud for me.
After all this time, we still have never had the BAR or Bren gun. Perhaps when/if Rebellion switch to the Pacific or Burmese theatre of operations we’ll have some more variety.
Because those are squad support weapons
Loving SE5, but can Rebellion help a brother out and put the M1 Garand in the game!?
We need Authentic Plus added in all aspects, but mainly on Survival for me. You could almost never go close quarters and come out unscathed, but there's many players that can do it on SE5, especially the PC guys.
You can survive Survival. Successfully defending all the bases is the challenge! And that's extremely difficult at hardest settings in SE5.
@@Nifter71 honestly, it's not that bad except for some of the bases on Unwanted Guests. I don't consider it a win unless the bases are defended.
Took me just over 2 hours to 3 star this mission with firing the Mohsin only once for the long shot. Everyone else was stealthily knocked unconscious (threw an unconscious Becker down the mine shaft) apart from the spy that had to be blown up. All to easy. Going back to SE3 for a real challenge.
Good ol SE3 😙👌
In my best English.. about the bridge. There are two explosive sachets to be found there.
They might or could be used by the Germans. 🤔
What thoughts what ever but in case you can’t find them in the landscape to blow up AA guns.
Well you have at least two of them to be found on indication right below the bridge.
Could, be an explenation
Yes i know those satchels are there, we should have at the very least had to deduse bombs. The mechanic is already in the game from when we defuse the bombs on the bridge on liberation.
I start out new missions on hard. This is pretty easy on this mission. When I reached the nazi spy, I threw a five second block of TNT at him. Both he and the other soldier with him ran to the TNT and waited for it to explode. Like shooting fish in a barrel. I did like playing the mission and have played it several times. I'm just a true sniper elite fan.
I'll probably buy it once I've finished the campaign. Bummer about the non-existent snipe war. I will say though, they have massively improved the game since release. I think the poor performance on release was a major factor on why I stopped playing. Mainly the disappearing dead enemies, but its all good now.
The disappearing vehicles still bugs me. Particularly when they disappear AS I'M LOOKING AT THEM.
@@Nifter71 tell me about it. Just finished Martressac and the game bugged out and wouldn't give me the metal for destroying the armored cars. Blew them all up but you could still hear the engines running.
I didn't expect only 3 x zoom on the Mosin Nagant, so that was a let down for me.
The zoom can go higher than 3x but 6x is the highest you can get on Authentic.
Have dozens of online friends that played SE5 and went back to 4. The biggest reasons are no leaderboards and a level 40 campaign cap. I have no interest in multiplayer.
Yeah what is the level 40 cap all about? Silly decision.
@@BrutalBarracuda Yeah, specially you can get that level fast if you play on authentic, first time i finished the game i was level 40 or near it if i remember correctly. So many bad decisions in this game.
6:50 🏵 long shot 477 meters
Before sliding into the mission, look over the rooftop of the church.
Far behind that, there is person walking in the field. Hit him, Medal.
I think rebellion are just getting lazy with the DLC.
Video of your weapon setup
All they had to do is just add very easy just kept the the difficulty of sniper elite 4. Sniper elite 4 had the best experience in difficulty , game play ,weapons and mission. I dont understand why they change so much in 5.
They need to bring back the crouch run
Wow. A lackluster mission and an insult to one of the greatest rifles of the era. Well done again, Rebellion.
I know this is my second comment but I really wish the difficulties would change the enemy layout and population, halo CE did it in 2001 so there’s no reason they couldn’t do it.
Also the spy’s mentioning Karl’s presence and the pilot saying there’s snipers is definitely cut content, they did the same on spy academy where Karl was supposedly going to have the option to hide in the back of a truck.
He mentions it in the next mission before he uses the zip line to get to the factory but you couldn’t do it.
The difficulties should definitely change the amount of enemies no question. As for enemy placement I'd like a certain amount of randomness to it. It would help drastically with the replayability.
A Distinct lack of enemies again it seems. I still prefer SE4 tbh
WHERE OH WHERE IS the Pilot by The WATERFALL.??? I can only get 3 METERS from him.?????? I've looked all over for a cave or hiding spot. HELP.???
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Climb up behind the waterfall.
i played 2 other dlc (kraken and wolf mountain)
and kraken cost me 11 euros,this mission cost me 15
wolf cost me 7 euros
AND WOLF MISSION WAS WAY BETTER,even the map is small
I really hope the add a muti mission in the next dlc. Just getting one mission is not worth the money.
There’s only 2 missions in the season pass 2. Altogether.
It’s been interesting reading the comments on this review. If Rebellion doesn’t start to get the message now then there’s no hope for SE6, if there’s ever going to be one. The lack of fight / difficulty is a consistent complaint now. It will be a lot of work for Rebellion to work out how to balance a challenging campaign with invasion mode, and a lot of work means a lot of cost and we all know where the cost ends up in the long run… with the consumer. Sometimes I wonder if invasion mode is a completely separate game. The studio might have forgotten to consider the Law of Unintended Consequences… by introducing something undeniably exciting in Axis Invasion, they have ruined what made SE4 so excellent. And I’m not sure that the veteran fan base is going to forgive them for that. So Rebellion, get to work.
I agree, there is much to be done and Rebellion need to get busy and get SE6 right. I think we will see a 6 at some point. I hope so anyway. They need to bring back the challenge first and foremost.
@@BrutalBarracuda There’s a bunch of other stuff they need to do as well. Like re-employ all the people that coded SE4.
I packed a sad last night and gave up with Rough Landing. It’s a visually appealing environment but that is as far as I can go with the positives. Yes it can be an exciting map for Axis Invasion but if you try and do a professional Authentic job as Karl you’re going to come up against some very poor quality NPC awareness code. NPC awareness on Authentic difficulty is ridiculously inconsistent.
An example: Stealth your way from the south end of the bridge to the waterfall with the pilot in the cave. You can deliberately get the attention of the one NPC near the ruined cabin, to the point that he starts shooting at you with his SMG and throws a grenade. Yet the NPC in the cabin a tad further on (about 20m away) carries on talking to himself about how lonely he is, and none of the NPCs around the crash site by the waterfall react whatsoever.
Bang bang bang BOOM…. Absolutely nothing. Nada.
But wait, it gets better…. If you stealth past the mineshaft into the building behind the machine-gun nest that overlooks the rail yard, you can whistle as much as you like from the doorway and neither of the two NPC’s will react. But God forbid you throw a bottle back into the workshop (away from the rail yard) to get their attention… Not only do the two NPCs react, so does the entire rail yard. My invader (who was sitting in the bedroom next door) called over and said hey you knob, wtf did you just do, the whole yard is on red alert. The sniper over 100m away immediately started shooting at me and the alarm was raised. Because I broke a bottle 50m away. Jeez that sniper must have good hearing. Shame about his mates down the way, they must’ve all been drafted in from an artillery regiment as they’re all stone deaf.
This kind of thing is simply down to very poor coding. Casual gamers probably won’t get hung up about this stuff but the hard-core fans will be turned right off the game if they can’t play it the way it’s intended. There are numerous inconsistencies like this - another good example is how you can climb up the ladder into the Windmill and have the sniper look right at you, yet he still doesn’t react. But fart 100m away over by the AA gun and its instant detection!
So very frustrating.
Maybe you'll know since you tend to analyze and break down gear attributes. The Welrod. Power is meh, audible range is excellent. Problem is you rarely get a one shot kill, and it seems your odds are drastically reduced if you use sub ammo so I've been using AP. The game doesn't do a good job of telling you how much that changes the audible range though except for the exclamation point. So here's the rub. For the best quiet, one shot stealth gun. A Welrod with AP ammo, or an M1911 with sub ammo?
Go into loadout and customistation at the main menu, customise both guns however you want them, then go to the top and click on the special ammo, then as you highlight different ammos the stats will change accordingly. The M1911 set to max damage with quietest suppressor and sub sonic ammo will do 65 damage at 18m audible range. The welrod set to max damage with AP ammo will do 105 damage at audible range of 14m or 85 damage at 7 metre audible range. AP ammo doesnt lower the guns damage, but sub sonic rounds do. AP ammo also doesnt change the guns audible range either. But dont forget the M1911 is way more customisable and can be essentially turned into an OP mini sniper. I use the welrod as its more of a challenge, M1911 makes the game way too easy.
@@BrutalBarracuda lol, knew you'd have an analytical answer. Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it.
Yeah I just spent a half hour trying to fine tune everything. Glad to hear AP isn't louder because it's almost a must with the Welrod. However now I believe I'm over analyzing my rifle specs and it's driving me up a wall. All my bad though. Trying to have your cake and eat it too you know. Power is good, doesn't need to be maxed, but I can't find an equilibrium between aim stability and time to aim. Experimenting with the KAR and Gewehr. Just can't find that happy medium.
Given that the Mosin was inferior to both the Kar98 and Springfield in real life, I'm not surprised. I'm actually pleased they didn't give the Mosin ridiculous stats to make the "garbage rod" fanbois happy. ;-)
The first and most important thing to say about SE5 is that, yes, it's too easy. And the principal reason for that, is that sniping is now FAR too easy compared to the game's predecessors. And the main reason for that is the wind. While SE4 was often a little too brutal on windage at hardest settings, SE5's wind compensation is virtually non-existent.
Also (and Brutal can correct me here if I'm wrong?), I'm pretty sure the wind indicator on all previous games was harder to use, because it didn't line up the indicator right over the target. Right? Instead, it gave you an estimation for wind compensation that was not so precise, and that required a certain intuition. Now, wind compensation is even easier than adjusting for distance.
As Brutal said, no-one objects to having easier options for new players. But SE5 is clearly alienating seasoned fans of the series by making sniping too easy. In SE4, regularly pulling off accurate one-shot kills over 150m is an achievement. Nailing targets at 250+ is difficult, and 300m - 500m is a punch-the-air moment.
In SE4, firing a first shot to range it in, and then adjusting for the second, is common at extreme distances - as it should be IMO (unless you're a beast - which I'm not!). On top of that, sniping was harder again, on each version, going all the way back to SE1, which I played in 2005!
But sniping now is a piece of piss. I don't feel the same sense of achievement when I nail a long shot.
I get wanting to attract more noobs - no problem. But, letting players play the way they want to should go BOTH ways, and the people who've stayed with the series are chief amongst those who find the game unchallenging now. I can't count the number of comments I've read on SE5 videos, both here and elsewhere, where people are saying they're deliberately letting the alarms go off, in order to generate more enemies?! That's ridiculous. As Karl, you should FEAR the alarm. You should be DESPERATE to sabotage it... you should be racing to shoot that Nazi before he gets to it. Not sitting there, deliberately keeping enemies alive in the hope that one of them will set it off again... to being 'reinforcements' aka another 3 -5 men!
So, at least as an option for players that want an actual challenge (Authentic +?), we need:
a) More enemies - the maps are getting emptier. (And why no spotters? They used to be such a threat in SE4.)
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b) Harder sniping - Up the wind somewhat. Wind compensation PLUS distance compensation: that's what used to make sniping challenging in this series.
I've previously suggested reducing found stashes too. While the found-weapons mechanic in SE5 is one of the newer features that's actually an improvement IMO, there's waaay too much ammo etc. to be found just lying around. Running out is never a risk. After one play-through, you'll never need to worry about managing your resources again.
Regarding the lack of enemies, I think you're right - the only rationale has to be that Rebellion (or whoever is making these DLCs now?) thought that reducing Ai numbers would encourage more balanced Invasion fights? I rarely play Invasion, so maybe someone who does could chip in there... how is Invasion on Conqueror and Rough landing especially? Does reduced Ai make Invasion a better match..?
My question has been answered below.
It's all about 'INVASION' now!
I wish Rebellion had just made Invasion-only maps from the start...
But I guess they will do as business do, and invest the map-making time in what generates more cash. Which must now be understood to be Invasion mode.
Yes, on all previous sniper elites the wind gauge was simply a tool too show how strong the wind is, you had to figure out how that would effect the bullet yourself. Now, on SE5, it is used to show exactly where to aim, simply line up the wind marker over the target, same with the distance marker over the target and that's a hit. Its basically another aim assist but one that we cannot turn off! CANNOT TURN OFF! That's stupid. Like you say nailing a 200-300 metre shot on SE4 was a satisfying moment. Getting the same shot on SE5 is so easy, there's no gratification to be had. Its just *yawn* and move on.
Yes they should certainly bring back spotters, they were great at get you moving, stopping you getting too comfortable and just camping in one spot. The alarms are another aspect that seriously needs tweaking. You know when players are letting the AI set them off just so there are more enemies on the map you have a problem. If the lack of enemies on the map is down to Invasion mode then get rid of Invasion mode. Don't get me wrong, I love Invasion mode, but I don't want it if it means the campaign difficulty is going to suffer.
In SE6 we need sniping to go back the way it was in previous sniper elites. More enemies. Better use of alarms/reinforcements. Rebellion have a lot of work ahead of them and I truly hope they learn from all the SE5 feedback. Rebellion if you are reading this, get in contact if you want advice on creating a difficulty us veterans of the series can enjoy, seriously.
DL CARBINE is best used for this map.. this map is one of the hardest for me
It definitely makes things easier. I personally don't use it anymore, or suppressors in general for that matter (except the Welrod). It makes an already easy game even easier.
I’ve been thinking this game is too easy since day one, and really I’m not a great player. Ammunition all over the place, sparse parts in all the maps. There’s just not enough tension.
With any game, there is something to complain about, if that's your objective
True - but what if the complaint is totally valid and sound?
They made the mosin nagant a paid dlc and even so it is a poor weapon compared to the kar98k and springfield. i was expecting the damage from the Kar98k and the muzzle velocity from the Springfield for it to be paid but meh, not even close. That ugly/lazy scope reticle makes me to not want to use this weapon if i ever get this season pass. Also why the fuck does this season pass cost as much as the base games (89 BRL X 93 BRL) for missions that are no better than the main ones, this is my opinion from deluxe version which i own. When i bought this version i was expecting at least 3 dlc missions, same as SE4.
Rebellion, no cross gamers like myself throw us bone . Please, give us at least two no cross maps ..🥴🥴🥴🥴
Judging by the amount of Invasion games - either as Karl or the Invader - the DLC is being widely downloaded despite the widespread criticism. The Steam rating is only 5/10. Over the weekend, playing as Invader I reckon half of all games were Rough Landing and most of those were Authentic which is the first time that’s happened. When I switched to Karl, I was consistently invaded as soon as I completed an objective and thereafter every time the cooldown ended. If SE5+DLC revenues hit or exceed the developer’s targets, with the game dumbed down as it has been, it is not a confidence inspiring indication of where the game might head in the future… I’ll be gutted if the heart & soul of Sniper Elite is lost to casual gaming, just as the incredible 4K graphics tech becomes affordable.
I Loved the mosin nagant in SE4 but here I’m disappointed!!! The choices of scopes are very mediocre and the choices of suppressors is Bad also !!! I like my Gewehr rifle and the RCS rifle
Long shot was very disappointing. It was literally the second dude I randomly shot from my starting position.
It's Invasion Mode lol
Reb should've just made it a separate mode that uses simplified maps instead of watering down the campaign.
Why gimp the mosin. They know that's going to aggravated a lot of people. Going from one of the best bolt action rifles to one of the worst.
So disappointed, one play through yet again completes everything in the dlc , se4 death storm had so many achievements to complete like leaving the brothers alive on the map , killing everyone , saving the scientists, including so really tough challenges , it needed loads of play throughs for the 100% completion , and as you said only 1 armoured vehicle on the entire level , when they have boats , armoured cars , sidecars and their disposal .
Dammit I forgot to mention achievements but you are absolutely right 👍
The map and the sniper rifle [mosin-nagant] are really good the rest garbage that nobody ask for it .
I've just completed this campaign and I have to say I was totally underwhelmed. Lack of enemies, formulaic and not at all exciting. It whimpered along until I finished it and was waiting for something to happen. Dull and a waste of my hard earned....
SE3 is better then SE5
SE3 is fecking awesome! Probably my personal favourite SE.
Rebellion would be better off paying you to review the DLC before it’s released and make changes before it pisses people off. They are on the brink of becoming beyond irritating, it almost seems like arrogance.
I finished ROUGH LANDING on Authentic with 3 stars and all collectibles and objectives.
I'm underwhelmed at this sorry excuse for a mission.
1. It feels like the other half of the map of CONQUER. It's TINY AF!!!
2. Why are there so many satchel charges and no ability to blow up the bridge that is absolutely begging to be blown up??? WTF???
3. New guns... whoop-dee-do... just more to master.
Rebellion owes us all an apology for this crap! They're clearly "phoning it in" on this DLC and relying on the Sniper Elite reputation.
Any more crap like this and I'm out of the pool.
$30 for Season 2 Pass is a complete money grab/rip-off and you only get...
A lousy, short, tiny 1st mission
A yet to be released 2nd mission
Extra guns
Extra gun skins
Extra player skins
I did this mission in 20 mins ..this was the worst map ever the last dlc was way better with the fortress on the mountain.
we gota mid Mosin Nagant what a disapointing guns Rebellion Fix yourself!
I love your reviews but to be honest this game is a total disappointment all around. It had so much potential but it just looks like rebellion just phoned it in to make a few bucks.
This game could have and should have been perfection.
@@BrutalBarracuda It really could have been. They were more interested in making weird modded weapons and camo skins that never existed and missions so easy you can run them in authentic with your eyes almost closed rather than interesting, tense, hard fighting missions requiring real skill and planning to complete. I really believe rebellion thought they could release a couple of cool trailers and stimulate a ton of sales and just sit back and reap the profits.