The TRUTH of Hitler's Order to Remove the Sleeves from the Waffen SS | Sepp Dietrich reaction
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- Did Hitler order the Wafen SS to remove their cuffs with his name at the end of March 1945? What happened on that date on the Hungarian Front? How did Herman Göering, Himmler and Otto Günsche himself react to Hitler's anger with his elite divisions? What did Sepp Dietrich do when he received the Führer's message from him?
Next, in this program we are going to analyze everything that happened in relation to this order, whose event has been completely mythologized.
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00:00 Introduction
00:42 Operation Konrad I, II and III
02:30 Lake Balaton Offensive
03:25 The Waffen SS retreat
04:15 Hitler learns of the retreat of the Waffen SS
04:38 Hitler orders his cuffs to be removed
06:07 Sepp Dietrich's reaction
07:10 The reaction of the soldiers
08:12 The end...
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"We King Division " " Libe Standard" and Herman "Go Ring" This is why they shouldn't use computer voices.
Yup, mangled nonsense.
Correct
Dietrich would have replied "shall we ask the führer if he wants the cufflinks of the dead bodies returned too?"
He could not. At the time they were fleeing so fast they could not pick up dead bodies 😁
@@aleksazunjic9672 That wasn't the point of his comment.
@@robertkarp2070 Point is that SS did not bravely sacrifice their lives for the sake of Germany. Instead, they were trying to save their own skin. In fact, from March 1945 till the end, SS did not distinguish themselves in combat anywhere.
Sepp Dietrich was a good commanding officer according Rommels Books.
Dietrich should have plotted with the others to get rid of Hitler and continue the war against Russia using smart defense strategies and tactical withdrawals.
Why? So more innocent people could be slaughtered on both sides for longer? The vast majority of ordinary Germans wanted nothing more by 1994 than for the war to end…..yet you want to prolong it.
He was aware of Stauffenburg plot and did nothing to warn Hitler or stop it.
He was made aware as were most commanders in the west. I think he would have backed Rommel, but the truth of the matter was after d-day the allies were not going to say we will accept peace, and let you focus on Russia.
Uh, NO.
@jasonschweigert8069 As far as I know, that's only speculation, but even if he did, it was a silent approval that faded to subservient obedience after the failure of the coup.
I am great full to the War Academy for its unbiased history of the German Army. In todays culture when Germany during this period is looked upon with disdain it is a relief to find an accurate picture of the events that happened without the malice that so many others have put forward. Well done.
"...when Germany during this period is looked upon with disdain..."
Well, you've got to admit it wasn't their finest hour. I can sort of understand a few hard feelings.
Hitler was totally out of touch with reality at this point and had very unrealistic expectations for his soldiers. His isolation and the drugs his Dr had him on made things worse. Considering the enormous odds they were up against, the German soldiers fought bravely.
Hitler had the trait of all narcissistic sociopaths….he always blamed someone else. Does that sound a bit like someone we know about today?
Yep Joe Biden.
@@georgesouthwick7000 yup Donald Trump
Yep TRUDEAU
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Well, not really. 6th Panzer Army actually did have best equipment Germans could muster at the time. Including King Tigers and Panthers, which many regard to these days as best tanks of the war (heavy and medium) . They even had decent LW support which was rare this late in the war. And whole SS was based on idea of their superiority over Slavic Untermensch, belief that surviving members of SS (and Germans in general) held long after the war has ended. Plus, bulk of the Soviet forces was in East Prussia (modern Poland) . Therefore, they should have won, right ?
In a book on the totenkopf i read the soldiers tore off the sleeves and included some
That had arms in them put them in a bed pan and sent it back
A Hungarian friend of mine related how he watched the Soviets advancing across Lake Balaton. The Germans used artillery to break the ice around them.
Your friend is a bit delusional, considering his advanced age 😁
@@aleksazunjic9672
He didn't tell me yesterday. I'm in my 70s
@@Alphaskeptic In reality, neither side attacked across the lake, because it was not necessary. Lake goes in almost east-west directions. First Germans attacked on both northern and southern shore towards east. When their attack stalled, Soviets counterattacked from the north, in order to cut of German penetration. German defenses quickly crumbled and they started panicked retreat . In a couple of weeks they were already in Vienna.
@aleksazunjic9672
Maybe so but I knew him well. He saw it himself. I'll take the eye witness account.
@@Alphaskeptic When someone hates Soviets like certain Hungarians do, all kinds of hallucinations do appear 😁
Many of the German units in that area who surrendered to the Americans were later turned over to the Russians by the Americans. Tens, maybe hundreds, of thousands. My father was one of those German soldiers and he spent years in the gulags.
That's because the Americans and the British had a deal with Stalin that anyone who had fought at the Eastern Front against Soviets would become Stalin's prisoners of war.
The version of the story I heard before said they sent H. body parts of those who had lost limbs.
Sepp Dietrich's troops loved him.
Really great work thanks!
You do such great work preparing these videos. Glad I found them. 😊
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Super too hear the real story, thanks a lot, great❤👍🎩
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Sepp Dittrich's reaction is what I would have expected.
The movie wasn't called the sinking, it was called downfall.
None of the SS divisions could be considered elite by this stage of the war; most of the best troops had long since been killed or wounded in the last 4 years.
Exactly, plus the Russians just had too many men and materials.
That was something Hitler said,
The best have all ready fallen.
@@armyvet8279🇺🇸Lend and Lease, 🚩do not like the truth of Soviet power was 🇺🇸🤫
In 70 oder 80 Jahren wird der Krieg von anderen an anderem Ort fortgesetzt. Sagte Göbbels zum Abschied.
Thank God😊😊😀😀@@caractacusbrittania7442
Failure has no father ...
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Good history Channel
No mention of the story of this division's officers returning their combat decorations in a chamber pot , after this order had been issued by FHQ?
Guderian wanted that 6th ss panzer army for the massive counterattack to the soviet forces from Berlin area that could push them hundreds of kilometers eastwards. These counterattack planned with troops from courland, Norway, Italy, balkan and ... also but hitler didn't listened to him.
@mohammadaminbehdarvandan603
It wouldn't have made much of a difference bro
@hollowgonzalo4329 at least berlin and possibly vienna could save and east germany until pomerania and west prussia could be recapture until western allies arrive and it could inflict hundreds of thousands casualties more to the soviet troops and make them temporary weak and force them to fight with more than 1 milion german soldiers arrived from those fronts.
You REALLY think they had enough fuel to conduct such an operation? The tanks would've been out of fuel by the end of the first day.
@RustyShackleford they had still vienna and balaton oil reserves at that time. And synthetic oil reserves. They could use those fuels that they wasted it in operation spring awakening or they used it for operation hannibal. Luftwaffe was still active in battle of berlin 1945. It shows that germany still had fuel even in April 1945.
The Vienna reserves were fairly insignificant. The only substantial oil fields still under German control were Balaton, their synthetic fuel refineries were being heavily targeted by allied strategic bombing at that point (even the Soviets airforce was involved by that late stage in the war). Also, there is a major difference between having fuel in depots and having the logistical capacity to deliver said fuel to an area of operations - I don't deny that Germany had some petroleum/ersatz in some depots which had not yet been destroyed by strategic bombing, however the quantity of fuel required to conduct effective combined-arms operations by 1945 can only be described as: enormous. Apparently Tiger 1/2 tanks fuel consumpion = 1-2 mpg on the battlefield and even the lighter Panther tank used a similarly large amount of fuel compared to the much smaller early war Pz.II and III.
Furthermore: Germany was unable to supply it's dwindling airforce with high-octane aero fuel and therefore, the Luftwaffe would not be able to provide effective air cover let alone close air support. It's true that the jet engined aircraft such as me-262 were able to operate using "less refined" fuel but we both know how few of those jets were in service. Certainly not enough to do the job...
German ground forces would have been at a huge disadvantage operationally. The Soviets would have a massive advantage in recon and unlike the Germans, could conduct armoured movements that were wasteful on fuel (recon in force, etc) at will - by comparison, the German armour would have to conserve their supplies and follow a precise set-piece battle plan which would be inflexible. There is no doubt the German Panzer divisions were capable to stunning localised victories even in the final days of the war, however, they just did not have the material to conduct the grand operations that had won them such success earlier in the war. The failed attempt by the LSSAH to break the siege of Budapest is a prime example of this - they just did not have the staying power, the ability to keep a push going and smash through the enemy was no longer there. The men were courageous, highly skilled warriors - we all know that... and the fact that they were swept aside so easily is indicative of the overwhelming material advantage the allies enjoyed in 1945.
German forces were still capable of tactical victories right up until the surrender, however strategic gains of any meaningful degree were simply beyond the capacity of the Wehrmacht/Waffen-SS. Not to mention the fact that skilled/experienced Panzer crews were being killed off and replacements were not available or if available, they were of much lower combat effectiveness than the men they replaced. There are multiple examples of Tiger tanks being lost on both fronts because the inexperienced crews panicked and showed their side/rear to the enemy rather than braving the enemy fire/keeping the glacis pointed at the enemy line of fire.
The Soviets managed to kill Kurt Knispel. That says a great deal about Germany's armour in the late war - they were beleagured. Outnumbered, outgunned, over-stretched and doomed, despite their obvious individual superiority to their enemy.
Beyond all that, the quality of the average German soldier had declined steeply by 1945. They were scraping the bottom of the barrel and the Soviets were not. I don't like that history took this path but it is what it is. After the failures at Stalingrad and Tobruk/El Alamein, Germany lost the ability to take the initiative. They were purely reactionary from that point, even the Battle of Kursk was purely reactionary - same with the Battle of the Bulge. The allies were calling the shots and had broken the German codes so they had an enormous advantage in intel - I suspect an operation the size that you describe would have been impossible to keep secret and would have been Kursk v2.0.
Just my 2c@@mohammadaminbehdarvandan603
felt marshal model shot himself after cursing hitler and the 3rd reich and all the sacrifices
Yes
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Why are you using this computer voice?
Ah the famous Armelstreifen controversy. Just one of many things that proved to the German people, that the war was lost and even "der fuhrer" himself had given up. It also shows how Hitler, blamed everyone but himself for the outcome of the war.
Not an expert. Just a dual citizen DE/US, born and raised in Germany, now living in the US going on 30yrs. But like all Germans, we had family in the war, both in the SS and Wehrmacht etc. This event was a big thing at the time as told by many vets of the time, including some family members who again were in the SS and WSS.
A great uncle is still alive and as a teen, served with the 12th SS pz div and he spoke of this as well and said it was a total betrayal by a man once admired as a god and loved by nearly everyone in Germany. But imo just another tyrant who stained our country forever and even split our family and many others to this day.
Why you should never trust your leaders!! Same with my family...had an uncle and my father fighting against their cousins in WW2, both sides of the Atlantic...
Dejavu with Ursula vonder Crazy...
All orders and sanctions in vain...
Your comment reminded me of Gonzalo Lira.
R.I.P. Coach.
Although these SS Divisions were guilty of many atrocities their fighting capabilities and record cannot be demished. They did all that could have been expected from soldiers fighting an unwinnable war.
many atrocities? and the soviets and then the yankees didn't any , of course
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It makes me wonder if perhaps this is an example of the training trick " pass this on" where by the 10th person the message is not even close. It would make sense that all Waffen SS units were advised to removed their bands as it was a security issue, and many were being arbitrarily shot by the Russians if the division was suspected of war crimes in a particular area. I have a feeling this "order" had nothing to do with the failure to capture Budapest.
as far as i know they kept the cuffbands on
This account would also dispell the bedpan story.
No Joachim pieper latrine bucket history?
There are many mythic stories about the cufftitles ... I read many years ago that most of the troops didn't wore them because of confidentiality reasons
...oh sorry they told it at the end of the video 😂 I read the comments first
@@scooter66133 Many ripped them off because theyk new the Soviets and Americans (after Malmedy ) would kill them on sight.. GrossDeutschland soldiers (non-SS) ripped off their armelstreifen so they wouldn't be mis-identified....and killed as SS-men....got that from several veterans of GD
Pard me, but Hitler Jugend isn't pronounced Hitler dzsudzsend.
Survival.
Lake Ballantine was lost when the British through Ultra gave the Red Army the heads up.
Nope. Soviets detected massing of the armor. It was practically impossible to hide as they were forced to move everything by rail.
it was the patch " leibstandarte Adolf Hitler" that was ordered to be removed.
No, 'leibstandarte Adolf Hitler' was name of the division. Armband read only 'Adolf Hitler' as shown in the video
No such thing as Leibstandarte patch. It,s the signature cufftitle.
@@alansmith3327 the info i have IS that it was a motto "leibstandarte Adolf Hitler" not the signature. It was a shoulder patch.
@joseraulmiguens6699 your information is wrong. The insignia worn on the shoulder strap was LAH interwoven or worn as a slip over Not a patch. The Cufftitle which is the subject of the video was his signature. Check out Google for confirmation.
@@joseraulmiguens6699 17th Waffen SS Panzergrenadiers were known as Goetz von Berlichigen and had the "EisenFaust" color tab on the left.....they were known as the LMA division (Lech Mein Arsch).....look up Goetz on Google and you will understand!! It was something he said and did!!😀
The film 🎥 footage was excellent, but the narration could have been better.
Some emotion in the voice goes a long way.
It's an AI computer voice
And a bad one!!!!
It was a wonderful historical coverage of that event ( remove of sleeves) of Waffen SS divisions. I think (Adolf Hitler) was not appreciated. All sacrifices were done by Waffen SS divisions in Eastern and western frontiers they werenot deserve that decision by (AdolfHitler)..(war academy) channel is best
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they are called cuff titles
Armelstreifen auf Deutsch
War itself is an atrocity but the SS's crimes are well documented as are the Soviet's. American ones less so due mainly because of their scarcity. I had an Uncle with the 101 Airborne in the the battle of the bulge when they heard about the Malmedy massacre they put their German POWs in slit trench and tossed grenades in with em. The Free French where particularly less inclined to take SS men as prisoners as well. Once you start shooting civilians and POWs that kind of thing causes retaliation. I can't judge men in combat who take such actions for my time in service was tense but relatively peaceful. Many a German soldier fought well and with honor and managed to do so and keep a clean conscience.
Polish soldiers fighting in France and the Low Countries weren't inclined to take SS prisoners, either, especially after the Germans started leveling Warsaw.
My grandfather was a R.A.F. Sgt his plane went down it was shot and damaged he landed in St Omer France he was captured by some German soldiers luckily all 6 men of that plane survived and were taken prisoners however the German army loathed civilians who did not fight with a uniform to identify them as a combatant they felt the partisans were dishonorable and it's why they executed these people honestly that makes perfect sense.
@@joshi3518 The only thing that was "dishonourable" was the Nazi presence on sovereign French territory. Give your head a shake.
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry Well just to say after the defeat of Germany in WW1 the french treated the Germans badly it's what goes around comes around
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry Also the fact that France surrendered in 3 months and a small nation like Greece took on Fascist Italy and pushed them out they needed the German army to come in to take Greece even then the Greeks were more effective with a small populace at fighting the Germans, so as I said France got it's just desserts way of the world and in the 2nd world war Germany Japan Italy were also humbled, soon it will happen again in Europe and in the U.S. all these nations will get it back what they put out
Informative video however the pronunciation of the divisions and various aspects of the narrative is horrible.
"Waa-fen SS"
@@gripmann “V”. The “W” in German is pronounced “V”.
VE KING DIVISION My FRIEND 🇩🇪❤️🇩🇪❤️🫡
Typical when Narcissist's gain absolute power. Your sacrifice is only meaningful if you give the tyrant what he expects. If you fail to succeed, your nothing.
They did not fail Hitler, they failed Germany. It supposed to be German last chance to somehow remain in the war (although even that was doubtful) . When they failed, and subsequently fled towards Vienna and further, all chance was lost.
Sepp dietrich was considered a dullard by most of the German general staff, he was not a strategist.
He was a long time close freind of Hitler, right back to the beer hall putch, but that did not make him a gifted general, rather, it made him a die hard national socialist whose commitment and loyalty could be relied upon.
His men were deeply loyal to him, and he to them, but amongst their ranks the majority had not even blinked when murdering civilians in Russia, or pows in Normandy.
On reading the telegram, dietrich knew the jig was up, he knew Hitler had no understanding of the realities of war, by issuing orders which simply could not be carried out or succeed.
Happily, these forces were never put under the command of manstein, guderien, or heinrici.
Waffen SS was under OKW operational command, Dietrich was not a Fieldmashall. Notably the LSAH was used by Fieldmarshall Model on the eastern front to great effect.
The SS were used with great effect especially during the Normandy / Caen battles by Avon Rundsdet
You pronounce the name VAH-FEN not WAH-FEN and you do pronounce the final "E" at the end of "Leibstandarte," come on...
Hungáry was always loyal to Európe Germany , freedom , defended Europe áll the time. They had the only revolution against communism as well in 1956.
Hungary was overthrown in a coup de tat by fascism. Thus resulting Hungary into conflict and destroying the entire country.
And still lost 😂😂
German military was poorly equipped in comparison to west allies or even the Soviets. Hence the rational for creating a few elite formations with priority in manning and materiel.
Why are they using AI to narrate this video?
A disagreement between two war criminals.
Deitrih
Think Big! Why be boring.
Good video but all the mispronounced German makes me wonder is this AI narrated?
It's Al narrated.
Great footage horrible pronounced words. W's in German are pronounced like V's, Viking not We- king. Vaffen not waf fen, etc. Almost had to turn off the sound.
Sometime the voice says 6th Panzer Army..and sometimes 6th SS Pamzer Army. The title SS was not applied until the beginning of April 1945.
"Hitler was doing his best to defend the odor". Did he ever think about deodorant? 😂😂🤣
I sure hope you didn't pay for that voice software because even if you paid a dime, you were robbed. Brutally, unwatchable video that could have been really interesting!
Informative but your pronunciation of German words and names needs work.
Sepp was to thick to do anything just a street fighter and BULLY boy
For God’s sake, say “Viking!” in English, not “Week-ing”. Train your AI better. It’s annoying AF.
Plus "mythologized", really?
Yes ; I second that . !
WAAA -FIN SS. Stupid AI needs to be trained
I’ll say nothing of the story in the video as although I knew of this, I didn’t pay too much attention to investigate beyond casual awareness.
What I will mention is how sick and tired I am of listening to robotic voices narrating the video that are incapable of pronouncing names of divisions and many other names and words. It spoils the whole thing. I appreciate the German W as in Wiking is usually pronounced as V in Viking, but it is extremely irritating to the point where if I hear a robotic voice, I’ll discontinue watching the video.
Boring miss pronouncing AI kills another video. Good job.
Give the narrator some lessons in German pronunciation PLEASE 🙏
Hate the computer voice and its butchery of well known German words among historians!
Too bad that the person doing the narrative has NO idea how to pronounce ANYTHING in German. 🙄
The name Adolf Hitler on the patches reminds me of the name Donald Trump on the covid relief checks. Dictators loves their names spead around.
Please get a human narrator who is familiar with pronunciation. You do great historical work but the AI narration is absolutely shit.
What do I think? I think the utterly digusting mispronounciations by the computerized voice are so offensive that I am asking yt to never recommend this channel to me again.
Learn how to pronounce some German Words for God's sake! Waaaafen . Hitlerjewjend , Really!?
It was not sleeves it was the cuff titles
Great vid!
...krap pronunciation of German formations.