Citroen DS3 v Mini Cooper S Review - Auto Express
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- čas přidán 13. 04. 2010
- Can the Citroen DS3 top the classic Mini Cooper as the ultimate hatchback? Auto Express tests the cars and a few common Londoners to find out.
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DS3 is really handsome. I love it.
well, the Citroen is more dependable, and also less expensive to mantain and repair. The DS3 is a comfy car, while the mini is stiffer (obviously).
the ds3 155 or 165 is the better car, I love bmw (my mum has a m4 ) but the the mini ..no
This isn't fair, a mini cooper with 184 bhp against a citroën ds3 with 154 bhp and then say the mini is way better
I assume the DS3 Racing wasn't out at this point. That would be a fair comparison then, although the DS3 would have 200hp then.
Had both and prefer ds3
I wish america had Citroen
The DS3 simply destroys the Mini. And the Audi A1. And the Fiat 500 Abarth. Well you get the idea, it is one of the best cars made today.
Totally agree! Im buying ds3
I have a mini and it's a great car, it is the R53 supercharged, it's just so fun to drive and love's the old right foot too
@ePersienn sorry missed the R at the end....they should race it with the DS3 r.
wdf how did he keep the slide going so long in a FWD >
love both cars but think the mini will hold its value better
So the handbrake works then
Why rhe didn't compare that Mini Cooper S with the DS3 Racing 1.6 THP 207 cp?
I drive a Swift Sport and although a nice car I do get frustrated with the tall driving position. I'm thinking of getting a Cooper S next because I think it has the lowest driving position of any hot hatch.
ordered mine yesterday :')
I bought a ds3 turbo recently ...amazing I'm in 😍
Im going to check tomorrow one ds3 1.6l auto from 2011,petrol...and i need advice ..all the mechanicals says no...but i want it ..what is your experience??
@@888matiz mechanics told me the same..but mine was ok
My last car was a mini, nothing but mechanics problem and is like driving a go cart, I now own a citroen DS3 sport imo much better to drive and economic and is not shy at pulling away
I love the way he smile :)
@hunghuge12
Ofcourse the handbrake, but its how long he kept the slide going that I find amazing.........great skill to be able to do that with an FWD
Hey would u mind answering me back please? Is the mini manual or auto?
DS3 better because it's a grand cheaper... That's crazy. The mini holds its value far far better.
I drive a DS3 and a toyota yaris and a vw polo GTI n a Mercedes benz 600.. my fave car is the mercedes but the ds3 is just fantastic
@adriannippy I'd love to know how people define practicality. It has a bigger boot so it's more practical? How many people buy this kind of car to put a load of luggage in? I would say a smaller boot is more practical for most people who will buy this as it cuts down on fuel used and makes it shorter so easier to park. If it's just a great empty space even with the weekly shop in then it's just wasted.
And DS3R vs Mini S ?
@RnMpRoduction thanks! :)
The Mini gear changes of, have been more rapids than in the ds3, and in the Mini, the pilot made faster the change of gears.(than strange ...).
Also, just before the drift, in the output, the change from 1st to 2nd gear has made very fast, slowing even more engine response ... and wasting time, while, in the mini, before you change to 2nd gear,the pilot accelerates much more . if the pilot grabs the DS3 in the same way, he humiliates to the MINI
Distressing...
@Gretsche87 all based on the same design... I really dont get your point
in australia u can pick up a ds3 thp 150 for $30, 990 (a steal in my opinion), when the mini cooper s is $42, 990-$45, 990 (depending on model).
I would rather pay abit more for a better car in looks, build quality and performance plus it would hold better value.
Also in the point there of the Mini being less spacious a friend of mine has a DS3 and even with the seat really far back i had hardly any legroom in the front passenger seat and I'm only about 5'7!!
that stuntguy is great
@toyotaprius79 the mini is built in oxford england but the engine is from psa who own citroen and pegueot its the 1.6 and bmw i mean mini change the injectors and ignition system and ecu to bmw developed ones from bosch
@mouloudo
Which is why MINI has released oh I don't know, 5 new models over the past 3 years...?
Now this stunt guy does drag races with Carwow
Thought I was the only one who noticed 😂
Yeah modern french design for Men, Retro/Heritage design for Women. Makes total sense. You can also get more kitchen utensil and cleaning products in the back of a DS3.
@ePersienn sorry meant DS3 R
I would have liked to have heard the test drivers opinion who drove it in the 2nd test. Personally I'd go with the DS3 because its not pretending to be British. And also the Mini seems to cramped inside for my liking.
At 2:23 the driver takes longer to launch the Citroen than he did the Mini at 3:27....
@adriannippy No, I would like it more if it was British or even more compact.
If they want to compare them in the agility test , its not a fair comparaison. The cooper S is adjusted for sportivity, if it wants a true competition, it should race the DS3: lighter, faster, better brake, handling and an extra 50bhp with the same engine but turbocharged.
He put more effort into the mini
@mouloudo
I just don't think MINI is trying to be big with a whole fleet of cars. They found a niche that works for them so they are filling it.
Besides, the countryman is completely different from the cooper in and out, not to mention is has a different drivetrain.
@quetzalrojo
Hahahaha btw 1.6thp from the DS3 is actually BMW-Minis engine :P
The first round when the mini won, it was picked just because it's British apart that the public still doesn't know that it's German.
Ive had both a 59 plate R56 cooper S and still have my 62 plate DS3 Dsport+ Thp and DS3 is just a better car and to say they both have the same Engine but the Cooper S having more BHP the DS3 doesn't seem any slower its certainly much nicer inside and more luxurious.
The mini looks old. As for driving . Depends on the driver. It doesn't take much to put the power up and lower it a bit to pit it on par with the mini or even better
Shoulda been the DS3 Racing to make it fare!
Hey Matt, ;)
am I the only one who thinks he sounded like Jeremy Clarkson when he commentated how the cars went around the course?
Mat, You have asked English people about an English vs French car. Of course they will say Mini even if the Citroen is better. The ones who said Citroen actually love the looks of the Citroen probably
Same engine aswell just smaller turbo
@couvic76
nope, the Mini has 184hp as a cooper S...
I have the mini coupé 184 and the ds3 165 thp pack performance.
Poor mini...
The ds3 is verry better.
Mini is very old...
The new thp 165 is not bad.
The interior of the last ds3 it is very well with all option and pack performance.
Ds3 beautifull car, now the mini...
What I meant is it´s better than the A1 (they are very close though).
....the stig??!!
DS3!!!
@messiasVi
what does it mean stupid roof? i don't understand your words... i don't know how a roof can be stupid... -.-'
DS3 by far.
The CS3 trumps in looks, comfort and everyday practicality. The MIni trumps in brand cache, quality and drving dynamics.
@attacusbuttercorn
I agree with you though in principle. The DS3 is overdone. Those "me too" LED daylight running lights for one.
MiTo is beautiful, shame the chassis isn't so amazing.
FUCKING PRO IN DRIVING
Is this the best way to test the cars ? come on !!!
Never compare a premium car with a normal car... coz at the end of the day, they all gonna come down to the price differences.
I've got a Mini S and it's kind of ridiculous to have it compared to the DS3, there's comparision.
Oh its the rally driver speaking
im not talking about awesome or not, read again :)))
The Cooper S has a big problem, which is carbon buildup
Bags
Diesels get carbon build up.
@@equaliser2265 wrong, direct injection petrol also has carbon buildup. DO your research
same engine :)
I'd have a DS3 any time. The Mini is a not particularly reliable maintenance pain. Like all BMW's, expensive times lie ahead for every owner. The Mini with 'cool' is the original. The new Mini is just an overweight pastiche.
no Mini is the best to buy!! luv the MINI
then you'd need the JCW to compare that against...
@donnymum waitn till the DS3 racing comes out. It's even better. I'm quite surprised an englishman fancies a Citroen more than a Mini. Ooops, a BMW, sorry LOL !
DS3 won the Top Gear car of the year...I think its got a bit more character
@matt2mars13 Actually the world does revolve around English as it's the most spoken language.
God bless Mat
Lol...when he handbrakes, it takes him 1sec at each time to start off with the DS3...that's clearly unfair...you can also see the mini has softer suspensions, i'm sure the DS3 is better at this exercice.
the driver kinda looks like Ryan Gosling lolol
If you want a comfy car for long journeys... buy a sedan. The Mini is and will always be the best hot hatch.
If Citroen is so keen to point out that it's not retro, then why did they call it the DS3? It may not not look retro, but the "DS" part of the name comes from one of the most stylistically and technologically advanced cars ever built. Besides, this car is small, agile and fast - everything the original wasn't.
R56 all the way
they ask english people which one they like most..very objective..
w9 fpr a 200 bhp ds3 =)
its actually rly a better car. i love the looks of mini, but sorry, the interior is just too tight. ds3 has much more space, especially at the back!
What a pointless video. He may as well have saved time, tyres, and fuel and just said what he said in the last 10 seconds. If he was going to write the mini off because it was more expensive and less practical the rest of the video is a complete waste of everyone's time. Kinda like comparing it to a bag of chips.
Sorry but why we hear the English Anthem for the Mini ?
Incredible English lol
I remember to you that Mini is not English since a long time now (in fact you have not big automaders since a long time now :-( ^^ )
Mini is an owner of the BMW Corporation & a German car
if not in this case the Greatest car sell in the world is French ^^
Yes the Bugatti Veyron is not German but French like in the past & its origins :-)
But strange in the case of the Veyron your "vision" is not for that ^^
@phoenix1925 well it is a review for the english market... soooo... go figure
genius...
Mini is just a better car more practical or not
cooper 4 ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 cars, 1 engine....
@ForzaBarca88 Handbrake.
haha, yeah I read it ;) Still don't agree ;) if you have normal mini in red, it's maybe a girls car, but a mini cooper s in black, that much manlier than a citroen ;)
MINI is a sports car or think of it like a coupe. Citroen is a hatchback. But anyway MINI is better, nothing to do with it being British or German.
They asked english people. Come on. Of corse they are for mini.
GTI is the ultimate hatchback, when taking everything into consideration. End of story.
@BabyVoltron and one more thing your comparing a car which had 1/3 of the power of other cars which beat them on a very competitive track (mon'carlo) and you bring a modern wrc car which rules and regulations state that they all must have same power......think before you comment lol jeeez anyhow good day and get over it ;) ..... just keep it "Minimal" when u reply lol
DS3 all the way. Dislike the 'new' style mini's. Way too common and just generally boring. DS3 looks sweet with its vertical LED lights on the front too...
Ds3 the best!!
mini 175 hp
ds3 150!!!
mini
go citroen ... 1,6 150.. ??cv 1,6 202? cv
people tend to be stupid nowadays, most companies use other engines made by other manufactures, yes maybe the foreign engine is better but that's mostly down to companies like ferrari, mecerdes, bmw having more money, experience (participation in F1), expertise etc .
DS3 based on a C3, Mini based on Mini say no more