Grab adhesive tests 2017
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- čas přidán 11. 11. 2017
- In this video I have tested out several grab adhesives, many of which have been recommended by viewers on CZcams. I have done three tests, firstly stainless steel to stainless steel, secondly a grab test to see how well the adhesives can grab (this was originally copied from the Maximum torque video, which portrayed some grab adhesives as being poor, when they were actually good). I then tested out some hardwood blocks which were stuck to the stainless steel, unfortunately the hydraulic ram seals are now passing and so if I perform more tests I will have to repair, or buy a new ram. I hope people appreciate the amount of work that has gone into this video ;-)
The full results of all tests are-
Adiseal £7.86 Maximum pressure stainless to stainless 245 PSI
Maximum pressure hard wood to stainless 3000+ PSI
Supabond £5.99 Maximum pressure stainless to stainless 224 PSI
Maximum pressure hard wood to stainless 1115 PSI
PL premium £12.95 Maximum pressure stainless to stainless 202 PSI
Maximum pressure hard wood to stainless 873 PSI
Tec 7 £14.99 Maximum pressure stainless to stainless 165 PSI
Maximum pressure hard wood to stainless 1016 PSI
HB42 £9.27 Maximum pressure stainless to stainless 184 PSI
Maximum pressure hard wood to stainless 942 PSI
Gorilla grab adhesive Maximum pressure stainless to stainless 166 PSI
Maximum pressure hard wood to stainless 862 PSI
PU18 £5.28 Maximum pressure stainless to stainless 136 PSI
Maximum pressure hard wood to stainless 582 PSI
Saves nails £ 3.87 Maximum pressure stainless to stainless 95 PSI
Maximum pressure hard wood to stainless 411 PSI
Initial grab test, only three adhesives worked but the best was definitely Supabond-
1. Supabond
2. Adiseal
3. Tec 7
You can see some previous tests here-
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• Grab adhesive - grab a...
• Grab adhesive test usi... - Jak na to + styl
A lot of work and money has gone into making this video so that people do not get ripped off! I estimate that it has taken about 40 hours to prepare everything, film the video and edit the footage. Please like, share and comment on the video as it really helps me out ;-)
Can anyone identify the hardwood used in the video?
thanks for all of your videos as i find them very useful when customers come into work asking for advice on products..... as for the wood, i'm going to take a punt on beech wood
Ultimate Handyman great video. Looks like Iroko to me but it’s difficult to see
Good guess, but it's not Beech ;-)
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Thanks, it's not Iroko but good guess ;-)
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Very useful thanks! Is it almendrillo?
Amazing test and results, very surprising.
We appreciate all your hard work and the expense you use on all the videos.👍👍👍
Yes, I was very surprised, thanks for the comment ;-)
I really enjoy these tests and appreciate the time that goes in to them, Impressive how well some of these can stick.
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Really happy to find this - great work, and appreciate you spending the time to plan and deliver a great show.
Much appreciated!
I have never come across adiseal in the normal diy outlets but I will certainly be using it in the future. Many, many thanks for taking the time and trouble (not forgetting cost!) to make this video, it has been a real eye opener. A HUGE thumbs up.
Adiseal certainly surprised me in this test!
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Exactly what I was looking for. Took a while, about time I found this one. Thankyou.
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Working on a framing crew, we used to make some quick and dirty sawhorses making angle cuts on the edges of a 2x6, and then glue and nail some ledger-board legs on them (1x8 rough-cut spruce). We used PL 400 subfloor adhesive, because that's what we had. Once the Lull (a forklift mounted on a tractor that could extend up to the third floor) backed over one of the sawhorses, and the PL 400 held, and the leg snapped.
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Thanks for putting all your time and effort into these tests, it must have cost a small fortune too. It's amazing to see the differences in price and performance. Thanks again.
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This was very useful. Thank you so much for taking the time to make this!!
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This has become my go-to channel for anything I'm unsure about. Fantastic content and explanations in every video. Thanks for top quality, helpful content!
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Crazy amount of effort and it shows. Thankyou!
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Thanks for the time and effort you put into these videos. Really appreciate it as some of these grab adhesives I've never heard of. I'm really liking the screwfix nemesis range and toolstation grip and grab.
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The Nemesis stuff is really good, when I get chance next year I'm going to try the Nemesis to glue the hardwood blocks to the stainless steel. I'll pick up a grip and grab as well (if I remember)
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Would rather watch this ,than strictly rubbish on a Saturday night
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maybe he can dance next time and get a bigger audience
thats why i dont pay for a TV licence
Totally agree
Always quality and practical tests use your channel for many things very appreciative Thank You.
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Great review. Thanks for the time to upload.
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We appreciate your amazing videos and all your hard work. Keep it up :)
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Thank you so much for doing these tests they are very helpful thanks again
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Absolutely unbelievable test mate. Nice one.
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Excellent stuff. Very helpful Gov. Thanks for your time and effort.
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Great video and very useful test!
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Great video review, loved the grab test, real, honest on-site conditions.
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So very much appreciated! Interesting results for sure. Thanks!
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Appreciate the time and effort and the amount of work that you put into this test and having used the two most expensive brands on numerous occasions, I'll be trying out the others, especially the Adiseal. Some of these type of products state in the instructions that mechanical support is required until the product is fully cured. I personally find that any such product labeled as grab adhesive, should be able to grip by itself and should not be labeled as a grab adhesive if it's unable to grab and hold both surfaces straight away.
You are welcome, I agree with you about the grab adhesive being able to grab a sufficient weight without support.
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This was GREAT! Thanks much for doing this!
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Hi pal, thumbed up the video, appreciate the effort you've put into this video.
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Another great video, thanks for sharing with us :)
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Thanks for your time and effort, very helpful
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Thank you very much for your time and I will give this video a massive thumbs up.
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Enormously helpful - many thanks!
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Thanks Chez! Great test.
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You did an amazing job with this test, thank you for sharing with us
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appreciate all the effort, thank you
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Well done on your effort. Without these type of videos it would be wild guess work on my part as to which to buy. Thanks for all your videos.
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im amazed at the variation, i mean, you wouldnt expect much difference from a major brand of say PVA wood glue, but seems grab adhesive means anything and can be close to useless
I really enjoyed that and have definitely learned something
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Great research and tests!!===Thx Bud from Toronto Canada!!
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Thanks for the comment, I hope it is not too cold over there!
very informative video, thank you very much for your effort
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Nice video, very educational.
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Thank you very much, very useful.
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Great review. You really should look into/consider starting a patreon account. You will be amazed how many people will support the channel. Your videos bring great value to a lot of us.
Thanks, I'm trying to keep away from Patreon. I do get advertising revenue from the videos though, so as long as people watch and share the videos that really helps me out ;-)
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Sorry, hit downvote by accident. Really meant upvote x1000. Your content is super useful.
This is a great video thanks man.
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I think it's safe to say that adiseal and supabond are the best, adiseal for glueing strength and supabond a good grab.
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Awesome video. Thanks for trying my suggestion of PL Premium in your lineup this time. I now know it's not the best but glad to know that it's not the worst either since I've been using it quite a bit. Looking forward to your next video.
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The PL premium is much cheaper than most of them as the tube was at least twice the size of the regular tubes.
I bet it's really good for injecting in the gaps on stairs to prevent them from creaking as the product seems to expand slightly.
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Yes. There are a couple advantages to PL. One is that it expands like you mentioned so works well for filling gaps between surfaces and also that it cures to a harder consistency than the other adhesives which sometimes stay soft for months. You can also speed up the cure time by misting some water on the surfaces. Water seems to speed up the curing process. It's a superior product when used to attach plywood to joists to form a squeak-free solid subfloor.
we appreciate all your video and your time and effort loved the video.
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Another great product test video, thank you for spending the time and money to do this, I have certainly learned a few tricks from your other videos. Out of all the products you have tested which one(s) do you always keep in the van? As that must be the ultimate test!
Thanks Jonathan, I don't use much grab adhesive to be honest in fact the only time I use it seems to be for doing these tests.
I did use some earlier in the year though and normally use Nemesis from screwfix as it is very good for the money.
You can see it being tested here- czcams.com/video/9XgDvYsJiB8/video.html
And here- czcams.com/video/80pC1-eJFj0/video.html
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Great video, thank you
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Great video mate
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Great test.
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thank you . you are saving people money . awesome
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Good test. Really useful
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Awesome videos.. so which adhesive would you recommend? Basically if used for framing? The sticks like sxxt turbo video with the bricks looks good
I'd use nails or screws for framing, but I normally use the Adiseal for jobs that require a grab adhesive.
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Very helpfull video. Many thanks.
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Fantastic tests. Its unbelievable that adiseal test with the hardwood.
Absolutely. It was actually hard work pumping the hydraulic pump for this video!
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great job. love these videos.
I wish you would announce that you are planning a test like this. I'm sure some of us would send you a few tubes to test. I would send a few of my favorites.
I would love for you to do a mini grinder disk test. I have found huge differences in some of them
Thanks Alan, if you tell me your favourites I will try and pick some up.
I'm afraid I can't announce when I'm going to do the filming as I often don't know myself. I started to but some of these about 8 months before I got chance to test them out.
As for mini grinder discs, do you mean a 4.5 inch grinder or similar? If you do I highly recommend the "Attack" discs which are made by Dronco (if I remember rightly), they are superb for cutting metal ;-)
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I will have to make a list. ct1 , sticks all, PU5 , I have a few I get of a local supplier that he imports.
the disks I'm talking about are the 4.5" disks. we have different ones here in Ireland to you . I find some great and some shockingly poor
We have only just seen this test and want to thank-you!
2nd place for SupaBond we will take that 👍
Supabond did well ;-)
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Cracking video Ultimate.👍
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Awesome video man! Would love to see more tests in regards to elasticity, temperature and how well they do in contact with water. I know from experience that Tec7 will harden when in contact with water. Quite a nice ability.
I only started to do these tests because one manufacturer made a video that made all other grab adhesives look inferior, when I did the test for myself- that was not the case at all.
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Useful thanks! I was struggling to stick something down recently with the Screwfix own brand which didn't work well, so I'll try one of these.
It wasn't the Nemesis was it?
I love the Nemesis grab adhesive as it's really good for the money!
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No the Nemesis is good actually, it was the cheapo No Nonsense one. Can't expect too much for 2 quid I guess. It was the solvent free one too which maybe isn't as good and seems to take ages to set. I've stuck skirting board with it fine, but not so good for anything more challenging.
Very nice testing. I have to look at the Adiseal brand next time I go to the hardware store.
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Great video!
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This video (among others you've done in the past) will serve as a great guide for future reference. Thanks.
Question from left field: For this video did you use special lighting or was it just your regular shop lights?
Thanks, Ian.
I upgraded the workshop lighting a few months back, it used to have 4 X 6 foot fluorescent lamps but a photographer friend of mine said that LED's would make the lighting much better and so I spent £250 on 4 X 6 foot LED lamps, the light in the workshop looked immediately better to the human eye but sometimes if I don't get the item that I'm filming right below a light the picture is really dark when I get it on the computer to edit.
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please can to tell me which one is for polycarbonate and wood bond together.
Great vid
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Thank you! I've subscribed. I am installing a wireless security camera on a brick wall outside, what would you recommend?
I would drill the bricks and use wall plugs and screws.
But if you don't want to do that I would use Adiseal (if you can get it), as that was the strongest adhesive I have ever tested
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The hard wood looks like Tasmanian oak but I'm just guessing. I'm really impressed with the Adiseal it's cheaper than some of the others but holds an incredible amount of pressure. Good video Chez your time, money and effort will help a lot of people when it comes to the brand selection for the next diy job they do. Thanks for donating your time effort and resources for this I truly appreciate it ☺
Thanks Yusuf, The wood is not Tasmanian oak but thanks for the guess ;-)
Hopefully in future I will retest some of the other brands using a piece of stainless steel and hard wood blocks.
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Nicely done video. Keep in mind that these tests all were based on SHEAR strength, both as cured and uncured material. It would be interesting to compare the TENSILE strength as well since that is a common requirement of construction adhesives.
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Great video, I've been using a fairly new one called grip and grab for the last 12 months awesome stuff especially on skirting boards.the only downside is trying to get it out the tube it's stiff stuff!!!
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Excellent testing as usual, but spend a tenner on a descent applicator gun. It makes the world of difference....or did you leave yours at work as well?
I have three of the Everbuild power pro guns (which are very good) but I can't find them anywhere!
Hopefully they will turn up soon ;-)
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I do like Pink Grip as it does the trick straight away. I used it to fit coving to the ceiling of my bedroom. Excellent stuff, despite the smell of solvent!
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That’s a great test.
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Thanks for the video, which on is food grade safe to repair broken refrigerator shelves?
The HB42 is food safe- fave.co/3lsosLf
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@@ultimatehandyman Thank you!
Thanks for all your hard work Chez..... nobody's spotted you were Zorro in a former life..take care..
LOL, you are welcome Eddie.
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Excellent. Being a geek I think the results were begging to be put into a bar chart. 🤓
Thanks Frank, it took me long enough without doing that LOL
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Pressure test is confusing, can you explain, which is glue is best then? marks out of ten? also depends on material glued to?
This is well organized and includes many options head to head. Great resource. Thanks for your hard work. I noticed some of the tubes were very old packaging. Did you get a chance to check the date codes on each? Also wondered if you are planning another trial with the numerous new items that are hitting the market this year. It seams Grab is almost the new standard but comes in many different levels. Your tests help identify the best formulas. Thank you.
No, I did not check any of the date codes. I just bought them all from Amazon. I was quite annoyed actually as I put all the items in my basket on Amazon, then paid using my debit card for the full amount - BUT they did not charge my card for the full amount, they charged my card about 8 or 9 different times for each of the grab adhesives (which really pissed me off as it meant inputting 9 transactions into my accounts instead of 1 transaction).
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Bloody well done mate. Great tests and informative results. Try a Loctite o seal repair kit (ebay) you can pretty much repair any hydraulic system sealing rings with that.👍
Thanks Norman, I'll look into one of those kits ;-)
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Could you provide a link to your video about attaching a soap dish or lightweight object to a shower wall with silicone sealer?
I've done two, that I can remember-
czcams.com/video/JviYVFzwXq4/video.html
czcams.com/video/eyzXyKCGQX4/video.html&t
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👍🤓👍 Honest and accurate as always 👍👍
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thank you for taking the time and money to do these. mabey the next time you could contact the manufacturers and see if they will give you some freebies to test? then you wont have to spend your own money.
Thanks, I try not to ask for freebies as much as possible. In the past I have contacted a few companies and often I do not even get a reply- which wastes even more of my time.
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Could you do a measurement with the wood on some cheap silicone too? I know they are not meant to be used for gluing but around the house diy I found them quite all right too. And they come cheap compared to adhesives. I've particularly used the S3 saniter silicone for gluing baseboards, skirtings and laminates. Seems to be all right and flexible, it doesn't crack when kicked or hit with the vacuum etc. Unfortunately I don't have the means to measure but would be nice to know how strong it actually is, what else it can be used for.
I'll try to remember to test a tube of silicone the next time I do some testing.
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great video and as fair a test as you could have. Very surprising too. I constantly hear people rave about tec 7 being great but clearly not that good. I've never been willing to spend the money on it to find out personally. That adiseal is some stuff though, definitely need to get some of that bought!
Thanks Peter, these tests have been very surprising. Adiseal, Supagrip and Nemesis have all performed well and are all about £6 per tube.
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definitely. I instantly went looking for Adiseal! need to get my hands on some of that to try out. looks like a cracking product. I know you might not want to give unpaid promotion to people but was there any generic suppliers of the adiseal or did you use a local independant?
I bought it from my local plumbers in Blackburn, they used to stock Bison Polymax but seem to have done away with that and now seem to stock just adiseal (I must see how clear the clear Adiseal is)
Great video.
Was thinking this week of sticking pallet slats to my bedroom wall, wainscoting style, and wasn't sure what to really use to glue it to a painted plaster wall. I suppose any will do really. As it's not heavy. And quite pourus. Might use some 35mm nail gun nails to hold it as it sets.
Thanks, yes any adhesive should do for a job like that.
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very handy test
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Which one would you recommend sticking a Rail C Channel to a Van for a Canopy Awning ? thank you.
Not sure about that, does it not need mechanically fixing or are they normally fixed with grab adhesive!
The strongest grab adhesive I have ever used is Adiseal, but it's not sold everywhere!
Where can I buy adiseal in U.S? Cant find it on amazon. Do u have a link?
from a little research " Adiseal Ltd are also the UK distributor of UltraLube bio-based lubricants from the USA. " so if u can find same brand in usa that also does adhesive it might be the same composite
Thank God we have something that you guys don't have :D
teak hard wood
great test thank you
I would have guessed at teak, if I did not know what it was (and I only know because it said so on the ebay description)
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What's the best grab adhesive to stick plastic to tiles in a bathroom?
I would imagine that any of them will be suitable for that.
Normally I use Adiseal, as it is stocked at my local plumbers merchants.
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This is great!
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I probably don't want the strongest for most things I do. For sticking the skirtings on after laying wooden/laminate floor, I probably want the one that is "JUST" strong enough to hold the skirting for normal every day use. Then be weak enough not to rip out chunks of the wall when the floor needs replacing in years to come.
Thanks for the useful info.
easy to use too much of this stuff for your appication, use it sparingly, and then finish the edges with a flexible sealant, they will hold just fine and not take the wall off with it
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I'm having a real problem hanging a radiator on a wall? Can't get a fixing as the brick is terrible!!! If I plasterboarded over the top and stuck some mdf to the board do you think it would take the weight of the radiator?? It weighs about 45 kilos.
No, I would not use grab adhesive for fixing anything like that.
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You seem to have very different brands available than those in the US. I've never heard of most of them. Here Loctite is considered best by most. I'm in the middle of putting some porcelain wall in my kitchen and I'm exhausted from mixing all that thinset for the floor so I decided to try adhesive. I put a few on with PL Premium and it only worked moderately well and was probably close to $8 a tube. It makes a strong bond after it cures buts its on the runny side when it's fresh. Then I tried Loctite Power Grab. This stuff worked brilliantly and was half the price of the PL Premium. It has a consistency like toothpaste and isn't even tacky or sticky when it comes out, but the tiles grab instantly! You definitely have to pick the product for your specific needs. They also make a PL Premium "Fast Grab" but I haven't tried it. The PL Premium you used failed miserably at your test, but that's not really what it was formulated for. But like I said at the beginning, we don't have your brands and you probably don't have ours, so I assume that's all you could find. Thanks for the video. Cheers.
There are lots of brands available here, some of which are much better than others.
A lot of these products look great, if you watch the marketing hype in the manufacturers videos, but most of them are pretty much the same!
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question ,if u was gonna use " glue " to bond steel on steel , would most " key " the surface thats glued onto ? and how much of a difference would it make ?
I don't think it would make that much difference. I never keyed the stainless in this video and the wood bonded to it perfectly.
A few months back I had some stainless steel panels which were full of a honeycomb cardboard like material, I tried to rip it apart but could not budge the adhesive, in the end I had to burn it to get it off!
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This is a superb video - incredibly useful. Did the wood species ever get revealed?
I think it is oak (but I could be wrong)
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I would like to see NPC Solar Seal #900, TiteBond Ultimate MP, TiteBond Roof Plus, ChemLink NovaLink, ChemLink DuraLink, Geocel 2300, Lexel, Through the Roof & CP1 comparison video.
Again big time impressive and a huge thanks. Some big differences between the different brands. Just to throw in my opinion, Tec7 - over rated and definitely overpriced !
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Not sure if you check comments on older videos or if you already know this but, Adiseal now refers to your test on their own website. Since they won the strength tests in both categories I can understand why. Just thought you would like to know.
Yes, I try to respond to all comments, but sometimes I miss them.
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Have you got a link for adiseal and supabond. I cannot find them online. Thanks.
I use Adiseal, as they sell it at my local plumbers in Blackburn, but I have found it here- bit.ly/2WsQOcR
Supabond here- www.supa-fix.com/store/product/path=59&product_id=69
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Good test. Thank you wish to see dinitrol and sikaflex on the same review
Thanks, I've just about had it with grab adhesive testing now. My original test was only carried out because one manufacturer published a misleading video, which was showing their adhesive to be superior to others, when clearly it was not.
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Super useful video again Chez, much appreciated.
I wonder if it might be a good idea to put a sticky thread on the forum with a table of results for all these adhesives and price. As you say price seems to mean nothing with these adhesives so a quick reference thread would be great to help us choose a suitably priced brand for the job at hand.
Oh and put up a donate link, I would be happy to chip in some money towards your costs, in the long run you will save me money with these vids.
Thanks, that would be a good idea. I'll try and remember to do that when I get chance, I really need to retest some previously tested adhesives using the stainless steel and hardwood for a fair comparison.
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Thanks, I prefer not to ask people to donate. I do get advertising revenue from CZcams though so if people watch and share the videos that is really helpful ;-)
Amazing thank you
Thank you too!
From france, I can't find the brands, I'll be really interested to know the prefered chemistry
I'm not sure which brands are available over there, sorry.
Do they use the same kinds of silicone tubes ?, as places like America use different types of cartridges.
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