I have the G9 with 12-60 Leica 45-200 and 25 1.7. Shoot all day long and walk miles while hiking so love how light and compact it all is. Find menus easy to navigate and camera easy to use and great to set up with so many custom options. For you I think you’ve made the right choice but too many people dismiss M4/3 without really looking into them. I feel for me and what I use it for it’s amazing but also understand that it’s not right for everyone. As long as you pick what works for you and your happy I don’t think it really matters. Great video again and look forward to more. 👍
Hi Matthew, I have been using the Panasonic G9 since launch. I use mine solely for landscape photography and have hardly done any video with it. I love it, especially since I can leave my tripod behind quite a lot due to the amazing IBIS. I have a few primes like the very cheap but amazingly sharp Olympus 45mm F1.8 and the Panasonic 25mm F1.7. These give plenty of bokeh for my liking. Due to the speed of the camera I can even do handheld 2 stop 5 shot bracket exposures handheld. Thanks for doing this video, hope all is well with you mate 😀
Thanks so much Gordon. Got a soul video coming out about the G9 on sunday. Fell in love with it, if I was in your hands doing photography I would own it, probably 2
Looking forward to Sundays video. People knock the MFT format for landscape photography but I have been more than happy with it. You have been following me on Instagram for quite a while now #gordondohertyphotography so as you can see the G9 performs really well and the Raw files have lots of flexibility. As you say noise at higher Iso isn't great but I rarely shoot above iso 800, this is only done in low light handheld.
I recently changed from a Canon 5D MK3 and 4 to a pair of Lumix G9's My photography has migrated from taking lots of Sports / Action photos to more portraits. I would lug around my 5D with grip and 120-300 sigma on events and then shoot indoor sports such as Volley ball and basketball with the 70-200 2.8 lens. I now focus more on sports portraits where a M4/3 camera is more than enough to get an excellent image. I find hand holding to be extremely simple for long periods of time, and the image quality from the G9 has absolutely impressed me. I have printed images as large as 20x30 with excellent quality, but the largest prints most want are 8x10's. I also cover some video which the G9 does an excellent job of. Some of you may say why not stick with the EOS system and go to a R or R5 camera. the Camera is not the problem, it's the glass and the new R glass is no lighter. the Lumix M4/3 glass is half or more than half the weight of full frame glass and the quality is incredible. Best of luck with everyone and their choices.
The G9 is more than capable for professional use and gives up negligible IQ ti APS-C (or FF for that matter) in most situations. For most applications, unless you pixel peep (a pointless pastime), you’re not going to get results from larger sensor cameras that come close to justifying the increased price and lack of portability. Sure, if your primary job as a photographer is low-light sports, then you’re probably going to have a couple of D5 or 1Dx bodies and huge lenses (that require at least monopods) that cost more than many cars (although your employer’s probably paying or them). If you want a full-range, ergonomically superior, and higher-performance tool that will deliver amazing results almost all of the time, then the G9 is a great choice. I’ll let others comment on video (although most of what I’ve seen is very positive), but if you primarily shoot stills, the G9’s more than up to the task and if you need a lot of reach, there’s just no contest. My Leica 100-400 (200-800 35mm eq) is amazing and would be a fraction of the size, weight, and cost (plus have a much shorter minimum focusing distance-a huge plus) of an equivalent lens for larger format systems, if such a thing even existed…
Thanks again for another good content! Love both the MFT and APS-C (Xseries to be exact). Loved my Olympus kit but could not warrant keeping two systems! I must say since switching to Xseries I have rarely looked back. Loving it's colour profiles, film simulations and more usable high ISO - just to name a few. And it's still lighter than my older FF kit!
Excellent video! I JUST sold my Lumix G9 and got a Fuji XH1. I love them both and it is so weird that you put out a video on the subject that is most important to me! Thanks, Matt! You are my favourite pro photographer! Sean
Hahaha this is amazing Sean we almost went the other way to each other haha. But sticking with my legendary X-H1. And your pretty much my #1 follower. Think you've been there almost sincr week 1 right?
@@matthewstorerphotography I consider myself very fortunate to have found your channel right from your start! I am enjoying my XH1 and I'll bet that Fuji is going to bring out its next generation! I think it is way too early for a follow up to the XT3. Are we lucky? I do miss that G9, though. I will always be an M4/3 fan.
FYI: As of Lumix G9 firmware v2.0 you are allowed full control of your exposure in 180fps / 1080 via VFR feature instead of using 'High Speed Video' feature.
I changed from Olympus MFT to Fujifilm last year with a XT3. I like the XT3’s excellent autofocus and better low light capabilities. Also the external dials are a fun to use. However I feel the Olympus lenses are better and sharper. The Olympus primes are unbelievable good. I watched a few of your other video’s. What is your experience?
Both formats are fantastic - we live in a blessed age for great camera choice! I use Olympus for sports and people photography (family stuff) because the Leica 100-400 is amazing and so are the Olympus primes (45 & 75 f1.8). The stabilisation in the E-M1 comes in handy. However, I also love the quality I get from my Fuji, and I use the (now old!) X-T10 for landscape (I resort to a travel tripod when necessary!). I could probably happily settle on one system or the other, but I don't need to yet, so I'll continue to be spoiled for choice for now. Good talking point on this vid Matthew.
Yeah i found this topic SUPER interesting. Many people just leave these systems because they no good, without ever testing them. But as you've found it. You need BOTH for your style. Love it!!
Good comparison, but I would argue against the opinion that the x-mount has the better lens selection. MFT has gotten so many great lenses from Olympus, Panasonic and more recently Sigma, many of them very high quality.
@@matthewstorerphotography I was laughing at this point too. Even native Panasonic has a much more mature line up- especially when it comes to zooms. Then multiply that 2x when you factor in the Oly lens lineup as well. Not even talking about 3rd party m43 has so many lenses I literally learn of new ones all the time and I've been shooting m43 for 12 years! I do like fuji's standard primes more though
HI Matthew just saw this video for first time in 2023 so i actually use both Fuji CSC X-H1 & X-s!0 and this mostly portrait and street and my lumix G9 i run purely for landscape with the aweseom 12-100 Olympus Pro and the Lumix Leica 100-400 - this all round set up suits all my needs - i run 56mm 1.2 + 90mm f2 + 35mm f2 primes
It's a luxury to have this gear to choose from. Pentax apsc here. More than happy using for wildlife and landscape. Solid build, good glass. I think the trick is to work with what you have at its limit. Nice video, both cameras look great.
NetGawker hey man. Haha busy dialing in my video setting right now. It’s incredible value. And lenses are really nice. It’s worth holding out for the Leica Lumix lenses, very good!
I'm using a micro four-thirds camera. I use it because it has everything I need for professional work. its small and compact, at least the way that I have. I also have a lens that helps with low light so it's just a beast of a camera. maybe one day ill upgrade to full-frame
I have the XH1 and XT20 with 18-55, 23F2 and 35F2 all are great lenses and I’m very happy with Fuji because good image, Fuji film simulations, FLog, IBIS in XH1 and small body very compact with the XT20. I switch from canon to Sony and from Sony to Fujifilm since now 6 years with my first Fuji X100S and now I have just Fuji System I’m very happy
Not a bad vid but you are crazy if you think Fuji has a better lens ecosystem than m43. The premier oly and panny lenses are expensive, sure, but the cover a crazy range at fast apertures.
@@matthewstorerphotography to be clear, I have full Fuji and m43 setups and typically use my Fuji. But m43 has an incredibly robust lens linup, thanks to Panasonic moreso than Olympus.
Yeah granted. You'd know a lot more than me for sure. I didn't use much of the M43 system lenses as system didnt suit my style. But always good to know
I use MFT because of its small size and weight, IBIS, features the camera's offer, and (most importantly) it suits my budget. I have a Lumix G85 which takes great photos and the IBIS can't be beat. I just got an Olympus OMD EM10 MK II because it is even smaller than the Lumix, has wonderful IBIS for video, and I can carry it around in my pocket for when I'm hanging with friends and I just want to have fun taking candid street photos and vids. Plus, and this is huge, Panasonic and Olympus allows you to swap lenses between their 2 systems. All totaled I paid roughly $1,300 for 2 camera bodies and 3 lenses (and the prices on all of these items has come down even more since I bought them). I'm so happy I got away from the clunky FF system. I think APS-C is a fine system, but size matters to me and MFT, with it's smaller form factor, just made photography a more enjoyable experience.
I love mft especially for Macro, Wildlife and Video! I disagree a little about the disadvantage for video. Or partly disagree. Because it depends on what type of video. I work with mft and APS-C and I have MFT as my first option for video. Exaggerated and frequent Bokeh is a trend at the moment, but it is, in my opinion, a regional and temporary trend / fashion. Very large openings can be disadvantageous in several circumstances, such as interviews, documentaries and situations where you want to give some dimension to the surroundings. It is also very important to point out, so as not to confuse those who are starting in the world of photography, the multiplication factor between mft and FF is 2 x, but only for DoF! The opening, the gain of light, is the same! In that case, an F1.2 lens is an F1.2 lens in any system! What changes is the DoF. And even the DoF is determined by other factors, such as distance to the photographed object and focal length. But these are just small observations. Excellent comparative, very clearly explained and competently filmed. Congratulations for the work!
So interesting that I’ve gravitated to the G9 from using X-H1 as well. The sigma trio of lenses also makes MFT appealing. Along with all the ergonomics and special high tech features.
Got both system, Fuji xt3 and g9. got some fun selection of lens from helios-44 adapted to both , Sigma 18-35 adapted to both "speed booster on M43" ,Sigma 28-70 2.8 A mount adapted to both "love the warm image from it" , kit lens for both and many others. why both use G9 for handheld and xt3 on gimbal and low light. can get clean hdmi out on both to atomos.
Have been Interested in g9 for a while now but I like sport and action shots and I heard g9 is not for that . I have to downsize in weight for my camera my Nikon and lenses are to heavy after an accident but darn it if only g9 could handle bullriding and barrel racing in low light . Great video
Hello Matthew, just came across your channel today so that is why my comments can seem late so to speak, subscribed just before this. I am a MFT user and have little experience of using other formats. It is always amazing how MFT is not worth considering on the part of many because of this or that...and these same people, on you tube, have never tried a MFT camera - and thus have no knowledge to speak from - and just advocate Canola Nikon or Sony like so many others do. I would like to take issue with something you said in your video. It has been awhile, you might like to rewatch your own words. In your video, despite being wildly enthusiastic about the G9 you still were referring to the Fuji as having "professional features" whereas you were not equating the G9 as being professional. Yes, you said this. The words we use to describe things reflect our thinking and influence the thinking of others. Let us take the word professional. A profession is a job, what we get paid to do. Good photographers can be professional but they can also be enthusiasts. What equipment you use does not make you a professional. Cameras do not have "professional features" they have a variety of features used by professionals (those who earn money from their photos) amateurs and enthusiasts. There are professional photographers who use Olympus or Panasonic (MFT) only. They have you tube channels and tell the world about how their business clients are so very satisfied with their work, they are professional photographers using cameras like OMD EM1X or Panasonic G9 or whatever. In fact it is almost insulting to suggest that MFT cameras are not professional or to not describe their features as professional. Another matter: crop sensors. I would like to suggest that so-called full frame cameras also have cropped sensors. Back in the day, 35mm film was a "cropped" format compared to the medium format and large format film of the day. When the world went digital, clever marketing departments started calling what was up until then small format "full frame" and that sounds good, bigger is better than APS-C or M43...and so right from the start the way some clever marketers put it 'buy a full frame from us....the other cameras are not as good since the others have "cropped sensors".'..... And lots of folks fell for it. And there is a whole generation who is absolutely clueless. How we describe something influences how we see it. Maybe MFT gets a bad deal from the start with the "micro" at the start of the name and not because of the advantages and disadvantages of the system per se? I will catch up on some more of your videos shortly, if I would add outside my two Lumix cameras and lenses I would probably go for the X-S10 with 2-3 lenses for the situations where my MFT kit struggles...but I am in no hurry to do this, still trying to be a better photographer/videographer with what I have before adding to my modest kit.
Yeah sorry I didnt look into the matters this deep, just how I felt using the cameras and my personal feelings. :D Thanks for you input, its extremely in depth and amazing insight
I'm a photographer whom primarily shoots wildlife and sports on the G9. The flip screen is probably one of the best thing ever. You can shoot at awkward angles without having to be in weird positions or gamble that you'll get the framing right cause your shooting blindly with a fix screen.
I use FF Canon and MFT. From an investment perspective, I prefer investing in lenses as they don't depreciate as fast as bodies, so I keep the bodies at lower cost. My latest addition was the F1.2 Leica Nocticron for MFT which is a nice portrait lens. I also like that MFT is multi-vendor (Pana, OM, Yi,...). I even have a speedbooster for adapting my Canon glass to MFT.
Enjoyed this Matt, found it to be a very informative discussion. Currently Canon FF but as I get older may need to review my needs but still have a good few years left in the tank yet. Just looked at your Scottish workshop dates. Will be down south in March 2020 visiting family and going to the photography show but certainly will take a look at the 2021 dates. Loved the picture you used of Kilchurn Castle, Was there just over a week ago to get an image to get printed as a gift for a good friend
Yeah I found this super interesting also! Lovely setup and totally understand the concept of MFT. Just not for me particularly. Yeah Scotland should be amazing doing sunrise, sunset and also milky way photography :) can ot wait for 2021 in Scotland :D hope to see you then :D
It's a good video, there was a firmware update to the G9 recently that upped it to "most of" the GH5 inc. 10bit. I sold my GH5 at Xmas, whittled it down to these two cameras actually. Chose the G9 as I didn't like the recording time limits on the XH1 and the non flip screen.
Sorry to disagree, but 1.8 on APS-C or MFT is 1.8 no matter what. It's just the DOF that is different. A 25mm is a 25mm on MFT, APS-C or Full frame, but just cropped because of the sensor size, so it gives you the field of view of a 50mm on MFT. The light gathering capabilities depend on sensor technology and pixel size, so if you have two same-size sensors the lower the pixel number the bigger the pixel size and the better light gathering capabilities if all other variables are equal. The problem is sensor resolution. To print larger you need more pixels, and as MFT sensors are small in comparison to APS-C and Full Frame, they have to pack 20 megapixels in a small size sensor, reducing its light gathering capabilities but increasing resolution. I have full frame and MFT cameras, I can adapt my Canon F1.4 lenses to my MFT and the 1.4 is an F1.4 on both cameras, however as my MFT is using just the central part of the lens the DOF is completely different and all the objects look closer losing the full frame DOF, but all other variables (aperture, shutter speed and ISO) are the same. It doesn't give out a darker or more grainy image. So, if you want better low -light capabilities, besides improving sensor technology, you have to increase pixel size and reduce resolution. That's why the Sony A7SII has only 12 MP although it is a full frame camera.
Well not 100% correct. If you crop a Fuji 6000x4000 mp image into a 4:3 ratio image, guess what resolution do you get? 20 megapixels. So the claim that they pack more pixels in a smaller sensor is not accurate. It’s pretty much the same pixel density in both, APSC and Micro 4/3 sensors discussed in this video.
@@ibarrabenjamin1 With 26MP, the X-T4 offers a higher resolution than the G9 (20.2MP), but the X-T4 nevertheless has larger individual pixels (pixel pitch of 3.76μm versus 3.34μm for the G9) due to its larger sensor.
I own X-T3 and GH5. My plan was to sell GH5 and move completely to X-T3 . Fuji has excellent lens selection , plus killer colour science. However something magical about about M43 especially GH5, it is practicality and usability especially for video work . Amazing IBIS eliminates gimbal and tripod. Probably best ergonomics for video shooting. Also amazingly smooth 4K 60fps video. Well I decided to keep my GH5 with 12-35mm F2.8 lens for my video shooting / learning journey.
That is an amazing comment mate. I love reading this sort of stuff. Super happy you found what works for you and most importantly the ease of use! :) brilliant work keep it up
Im in this same dilemma. I had a g85 w/ 12-35 and I LOVED it. I sold it off to get an XT3 bc I wasn't happy with the G85 continous AF. Now I love how solid the AF tracking is on the XT3 but for some reason the G9 and M43 system is calling me back. The main reason why I want to go back is I miss IBIS on the m43 system. The G85 was smooth like butter so I can imagine how much better the G9 will be. Yeah the XT4 is coming out with IBIS but it added quite a bit of bulk to the camera. I prefer having the grip on the G9 for run and gun shooting and that parfocal greatness on the 12-35
Do they make any APS-C sensors placed into FF-sized bodies that have MFT-level IBIS and better cooling and such? If they did that'd probably be the GOAT camera. If they don't, then they should.
Beautiful scenery. Very nice music. What you try to tell specs wise is a bit controverse in respect to that. But that aside, I can appreciate the info very much . Thanks!
I'd loved the X-H1 inside the G9 BODY, grip is bigger. The body Grip on x-h1 is not so big as most people says, too thin and not so confortable, just the bigger grip on Fuji X lineup. Also G9 got better "Kaizen" support than X-H1 which is crazy :/
Thanks for the best & most objective comparison of MFT & APS-C on the Net by far. As an amateur who restarted photography after a long break, i went with Panasonic G95 due to cost, weight, & size esp with glass. And FYI, I just checked B&H which is actually showing a few more compatible lenses available for the G9 than comparable Fuji camera.
The m/3 systems have the most mature lens selection. Massive. Put a 1.2f prime lens on the G9 and you don't have to bump to 6400. With that, and the latest G9 firmware upgrade, I'd take the Panasonic over the Fuji feature for feature.
Have not used the primes but would have been interesting didnt wish to invest to heavily in a backup system for me. But can honestly see where you are coming from, they are an amazing system! Feature packed!!
Good thing 1.8 primes from olympus or panasonic are extremely affordable and extremely lightweight! And in low light you wont exceed iso 800. Sigma 1.4 primes are also wonderfully affordable
even in 2022 ;) .. G9 kills a lot of the other camera's. i shoot easy under 800 iso at night. This because of the 5,5 stop IBS and than with the 1,5 stops on a lens and i get 6,5 to 7 stops of IBS. I use the G9 as a PRO so it's 1000% Professional (Coming from a Fujifilm X-H1 and FF Canon R)
I don't agree what you say about ISO capability between fuji and pana. Fuji is under exposed every ISO ranges, therefore, fuji 12,800 is same exposure as pana 6400.
M4/3 system has greater variety of lenses to choose from than those in Fujifilm X system, from high quality professional expensive ones to dirt cheap extremely compact ones.
I really liked the video, but one detail bothered me a little. The use of the word 'professional'. I don't know if it's a problem with changing languages or not. But at least in Portuguese, the word 'professional' has a broader meaning. What makes something professional or not is what you get out of it. Many people live with different types of photography, and travel photography can become professional in such cases. So, what makes a photograph professional or not? This is very relative! So every care is necessary with the use of this word.
Hey Matthew love your videos. I wanted to know if noise isn’t a problem for you and you don’t mind the smaller sensor would you then recommend the g9? I really want something lightweight and I’m tired of my Canon lenses. Would love to hear from you about that. Noise and lowlight is pretty much the only thing I’ve seen as an issue for the g9 so that’s why I’m asking
Hey mate I have done a full review about the G9 which you can find over on my channel :) but I would say 100% the noise is thr only issue for me with that camera. Otherwise its near on perfect and I would own one for surr
I have both, but I think I am going to sell off my G9 kit and here is why. While the G9 is a great camera, I think the image quality of the X-H1 is better. Looking at the images the X-H1 just seems to produce as more natural look of separation. The G9 produces really sharp images, but in an odd way, this sharpness tends to make the central subject pop so much, they almost appear pasted onto the background. While the X-H1 seems to show more layers of separation.
I wonder if this is a M4/3 issue. I haven't seen anyone else mention the lack of...depth in the depth of field. You can achieve shallow DoF with M43, but it's blur is so flat. Is that what you are referring too?
@@shanemitchellspencer I'm a happy M43 user and having use them for some time, I do agree with what you're saying. The out of focus areas look different, maybe even flat compared to other camera formats. Though I personally don't mind it.
@@shanemitchellspencer I agree with this, I've been shooting m43 for the past 12 years. Love it. Decided to try out fujifilm and rented xt30 + 35 f/2. Personally over the shooting wide open for all conditions phase of photography and f/2 is roughly about the same bokeh as 1.7 on m43- But the difference I can see with Fujifilm is that there seems to be a more natural separation between foreground vs background? It's mostly subtle and hard to put my finger on it. currently not enough to make me jump ship but the difference is there
Great question, because what the G5 has the G9 almost compares to it close enough for what I needed. Just the low light that I would have needed than would have had to invest into the more expensive F1.4 lenses :) Personal taste
Great comparison of 2 solid systems, in a stunning location. As a wildlife photo/video shooter I currently use the Nikon D7500 (aps-c DSLR) with the Sigma 150-600mm C lens; great for stills, but terrible for video as the AF in LiveView is awful and the 4K incurs an extra 1.5X crop. Now looking at getting either the Fujifilm X-S10 or the Olympus OMD EM5 iii. Both look great all-rounders for stills and video so finding it tough to decide!
Well finally you have looked at MFT. l told you so, lots of bang for the buck's, and small lenses too. As l generally shoot mostly on holidays and while overseas l have to keep everything light. I Currently use a G7 but aspire to the G9 last time overseas l took 3 lenses but 90% of the time l used the Panasonic 14-140, seemed to do the job, night use or low light l swapped to the 25 1.7 but found it too narrow, would have preferred a 14mm or similar. Regards Rob
Hahaha yes I can not lie. You've been one of the reason i looked at this system :P super glad I did actually. Gained a MASSIVE amount of respect, but also realised how much my Fuji gear suits my need also
Unfortunately some misleading info in this video. First, comparing a prime APS-C lense 16mil 1.4 to a M43 Zoom lens 2.8-4mil of course will render different depth of field. There are lots of ways around this e.g. faster lenses or Speedboosters. If, however, max blurred background and max lowlight ultimately is what you are after, then larger sensors than M43 or APS-C would be the way to go. Secondly, it seems you missed the fw 2.0 upgrade for the G9 as this addresses some of the issues you are critisizing. Exposure contriol in 180fps being one of it. Thirdly, there are a range of erros in your descrption, e.g. when you say the aperture of f2.8 -f4 becomes f4 - f8 or when you say the G9’s codec is 150 megabytes. Of course you wanted to say 150 mbits. Not a big issue, but this confirms the overall lack of accuracy in this video. BTW I am shooting M43 aand FF and I am currently also looking at the XT4 as this is a fab camera. So I am not partisan when it comes to these formats. I use the tool that is needed for the specific purpose. Cheers.
I agree with Sheik. I have a G9 and a OMD 10 MII: manage to get around the noise issues (most of the time) with speed boosters and IBIS. I use primes and lightweight zooms and get outstanding video and portability. I am closely looking at the XT4 but the Panasonic S1H is a contender too; both should work well in extreme low light scenarios. However, give me the M43 system every other day of the week. After all, it’s the person behind the camera that works the magic.
Mathew I love your channel and your professionalism. One suggestion, you keep switching hands and cameras back and forth expressing this one will do this and that's why I will only choose this one when I'm doing so and so. Its just impossible for people to know what camera you are referring to when all you say is "this one" or that one! I felt like just turning to another channel. I have to go back and forth to follow you because you are moving very fast and NOT clearly specifying which camera you are pontificating about from minute to minute. I'm a happy subscriber but very frustrated that you are not taking the time or consideration of your viewers to make sure they know what camera you are holding and speaking about when you keep going back and forth.
Ok Jerry dearly noted, thanks for this. I am stopping doing stuff like this anyway because I know I suck at it. My english is terrible and would prefer to just be back out in the field doing photography related stuff. People always pick me up on stuff I am not doing correctly with reviews, so I though I would save everyones times and just stop doing them. Thanks for your honest review, I really appreciate it :D
Hey Matthew! I subscribed to your channel because I could clearly see how much thought you put in to your reviews! You made some of the best arguments and observations on what a unique and useful camera the Fuji XH I is and then you very honestly spelled out its drawbacks! Then you clearly and smartly explained why you also needed the newer Fuji to compliment the XHI. You really did an amazing job of explaining how you use the two cameras in a team approach!! Most CZcams reviewers don’t give as much original and in depth thinking as you do!! I also love how you do the reviews in such beautiful locations! Locations that you obviously like to work in! I hope you are able to keep doing your channel for as long as it suits your needs. I certainly understand and appreciate how monstrously time consuming it is to prepare so much information about so many cameras on a regular basis, film yourself, then edit and post. And then respond to fans, answer their questions comments etc. And oh yes, try to make a living by marketing yourself or your services, in addition to all the other parts of the job. I truly think you have the talent and the drive to bring great content and original thinking to the world wide photographic community!! I will continue to be a devoted fan of yours for as long as you continue to grace us with your original and unique observations on cameras, photographic and video-graphic matters!!!
Hi! I use The X-Pro2 by Fuji. I originally needed the tougher weather sealing due to the environment I was in. Lately I’ve been looking at the size and price of adding to my Fuji lens collection and am wondering if you would recommend switching to Micro Four Thirds because I can get the Lumix 12-35 and 35-100 and A 17mm prime and have all my focal lengths covered, or if you feel like Fuji delivers better Images and perhaps is the better long term investment. I love my 16mm f1.4, and I mainly shoot nature, street and surfing.
Mhmm... this is 100% personaly preference I dont think I can answer this for you unfortunely! I would prefer the Fujifilm line up with the litle larger sensor of the camera and I can handle the added size and price of the Fuji as it delivers PERFECT results for what I need it to do. Just follow your gut and trust it!
Since M43 has 1 stop more DOF you can shoot 1 stop wider aperature with M43 than you can with APS-C to get same DOF with same (equivalent) focal length. So that means no more noise for an equal DOF and exposure. So why then do I hear people saying M43 has more noise at a given ISO? You shouldn't be using the same ISO for M43 that you do for APS-C for same subject matter and lighting. You should be using one stop lower ISO omcthe M43. So the relevant question is how does noise compare when M43 at 1600 ISO and APS-C at 3200 ISO?
Ibis only works for stills. Now try using ibis with moving people in low light. If I would just shoot statics that doesn't move to gather more light, I can just use my smartphone for that with computational features (lesser quality but it still can be acceptable at social media uploads). It's not about being equivalent or such, it's about the situation you'll be using it for. As someone coming from m43 low light is just the second problem, main problem is the messy highlights and the poor dynamic range. As I grow more with photography I find myself shooting moving subjects in low light.
@@jeniyo9682I wasn't talking about IBIS, shutter speed, or motion blur, but since you mention those topics in an incorrect way in relation to my earlier point, I will now address those other topics as well. M43 does offer the best IBIS due to being able to move the smaller sensor farther, but that is irrelevant to what I was saying earlier. Relating my original point to motion blur (since you brought that up)... Because M43 gives same DOF (with equivalent focal length lens) at 1600 ISO that APS-C gives at 3200 ISO... The following settings give same exposure and same DOF. M43 at 1600 ISO, Aperture F2, Shutter 1/60 APS-C at 3200 ISO, Aperture F2.8, Shutter 1/60 FF at 6400 ISO, Aperture F4, Shutter 1/60 M43 at 1600 ISO, Aperture F1.4, Shutter 1/125 APS-C at 3200 ISO, Aperture F2, Shutter 1/125 FF at 6400 ISO, Aperture F4, Shutter 1/125 Same exposure, DOF, and shutter speed in each. So same motion blur (or not) in each. Which is why I think a valid noise (and dynamic range) comparison is with M43 at 1600, APS-C at 3200, and FF ar 6400 ISO. I think M43 has very little if any low light disadvantage for moving subjects if you understand it. I also think M43 has an advantage for stationary low light subjects due to M43 having superior IBIS.
Interesting content Matthew but next time please do some basic fact checking before posting your video. I did enjoy the Slovenian footage it's a beautiful country. I visited your website to find out more about you. As a business tool it needs improving and lacks professionalism. The written content is poor in quality and full of typos and grammatical errors. I'd suggest getting someone in to write copy for you. BTW you do realise you are breaching copyright law by displaying the Australian Made Australian Grown (AMAG) logo don't you?
Hey Peter, thanks! Sorry it wasnt perfect, I know it wasnt and I am far from it, so I guess my work shouldnt be either! I'm just trying my best. I know my website is terrible and poorly written, but unfortunely I am doing it all by myself. I suck at writting and also speaking this has always been something I suck at and also have low self estimate about, so thanks for bringing it up. At the moment the costs in my business do not allow me to get an editor because well I am struggling to pay rent and buy food. So thanks for rubbing salt into the wound I guess. Thanks for bring that to my attention, I have now removed it! :) Best Regards Matthew
I have the G9 with 12-60 Leica 45-200 and 25 1.7. Shoot all day long and walk miles while hiking so love how light and compact it all is. Find menus easy to navigate and camera easy to use and great to set up with so many custom options. For you I think you’ve made the right choice but too many people dismiss M4/3 without really looking into them. I feel for me and what I use it for it’s amazing but also understand that it’s not right for everyone. As long as you pick what works for you and your happy I don’t think it really matters. Great video again and look forward to more. 👍
100% agree I love the MFT world and what it has allowed photographers that require weight and quaility. Love it so much! But for me APSC works best
Hi Matthew, I have been using the Panasonic G9 since launch. I use mine solely for landscape photography and have hardly done any video with it. I love it, especially since I can leave my tripod behind quite a lot due to the amazing IBIS. I have a few primes like the very cheap but amazingly sharp Olympus 45mm F1.8 and the Panasonic 25mm F1.7. These give plenty of bokeh for my liking. Due to the speed of the camera I can even do handheld 2 stop 5 shot bracket exposures handheld. Thanks for doing this video, hope all is well with you mate 😀
Thanks so much Gordon. Got a soul video coming out about the G9 on sunday. Fell in love with it, if I was in your hands doing photography I would own it, probably 2
Looking forward to Sundays video. People knock the MFT format for landscape photography but I have been more than happy with it. You have been following me on Instagram for quite a while now #gordondohertyphotography so as you can see the G9 performs really well and the Raw files have lots of flexibility. As you say noise at higher Iso isn't great but I rarely shoot above iso 800, this is only done in low light handheld.
do you use the leica 12-60 for landscape photography? what exposure time can you shoot max with the G9 handheld? thanks! :)
I recently changed from a Canon 5D MK3 and 4 to a pair of Lumix G9's
My photography has migrated from taking lots of Sports / Action photos to more portraits.
I would lug around my 5D with grip and 120-300 sigma on events and then shoot indoor sports such as Volley ball and basketball with the 70-200 2.8 lens.
I now focus more on sports portraits where a M4/3 camera is more than enough to get an excellent image.
I find hand holding to be extremely simple for long periods of time, and the image quality from the G9 has absolutely impressed me.
I have printed images as large as 20x30 with excellent quality, but the largest prints most want are 8x10's.
I also cover some video which the G9 does an excellent job of.
Some of you may say why not stick with the EOS system and go to a R or R5 camera.
the Camera is not the problem, it's the glass and the new R glass is no lighter.
the Lumix M4/3 glass is half or more than half the weight of full frame glass and the quality is incredible.
Best of luck with everyone and their choices.
Totally agree Paul, it's 100% about getting what you're happy with and that's the most important thing :D
The G9 is more than capable for professional use and gives up negligible IQ ti APS-C (or FF for that matter) in most situations. For most applications, unless you pixel peep (a pointless pastime), you’re not going to get results from larger sensor cameras that come close to justifying the increased price and lack of portability. Sure, if your primary job as a photographer is low-light sports, then you’re probably going to have a couple of D5 or 1Dx bodies and huge lenses (that require at least monopods) that cost more than many cars (although your employer’s probably paying or them). If you want a full-range, ergonomically superior, and higher-performance tool that will deliver amazing results almost all of the time, then the G9 is a great choice. I’ll let others comment on video (although most of what I’ve seen is very positive), but if you primarily shoot stills, the G9’s more than up to the task and if you need a lot of reach, there’s just no contest. My Leica 100-400 (200-800 35mm eq) is amazing and would be a fraction of the size, weight, and cost (plus have a much shorter minimum focusing distance-a huge plus) of an equivalent lens for larger format systems, if such a thing even existed…
Thanks again for another good content! Love both the MFT and APS-C (Xseries to be exact). Loved my Olympus kit but could not warrant keeping two systems! I must say since switching to Xseries I have rarely looked back. Loving it's colour profiles, film simulations and more usable high ISO - just to name a few. And it's still lighter than my older FF kit!
100% couldnt agree more with all that you said!!
Excellent video! I JUST sold my Lumix G9 and got a Fuji XH1. I love them both and it is so weird that you put out a video on the subject that is most important to me! Thanks, Matt! You are my favourite pro photographer!
Sean
Hahaha this is amazing Sean we almost went the other way to each other haha. But sticking with my legendary X-H1. And your pretty much my #1 follower. Think you've been there almost sincr week 1 right?
@@matthewstorerphotography I consider myself very fortunate to have found your channel right from your start! I am enjoying my XH1 and I'll bet that Fuji is going to bring out its next generation! I think it is way too early for a follow up to the XT3. Are we lucky? I do miss that G9, though. I will always be an M4/3 fan.
FYI: As of Lumix G9 firmware v2.0 you are allowed full control of your exposure in 180fps / 1080 via VFR feature instead of using 'High Speed Video' feature.
Ahhh good to know. I have sent the camera back since releasing this so must have just missed it. Will be wrong on sundays episode then also
@@matthewstorerphotography Very sorry. You would get much more from the camera after the update.
I changed from Olympus MFT to Fujifilm last year with a XT3. I like the XT3’s excellent autofocus and better low light capabilities. Also the external dials are a fun to use. However I feel the Olympus lenses are better and sharper. The Olympus primes are unbelievable good. I watched a few of your other video’s. What is your experience?
Good choice! Never used the Olympus lenses hard to say sorry
Both formats are fantastic - we live in a blessed age for great camera choice! I use Olympus for sports and people photography (family stuff) because the Leica 100-400 is amazing and so are the Olympus primes (45 & 75 f1.8). The stabilisation in the E-M1 comes in handy. However, I also love the quality I get from my Fuji, and I use the (now old!) X-T10 for landscape (I resort to a travel tripod when necessary!). I could probably happily settle on one system or the other, but I don't need to yet, so I'll continue to be spoiled for choice for now. Good talking point on this vid Matthew.
Yeah i found this topic SUPER interesting. Many people just leave these systems because they no good, without ever testing them. But as you've found it. You need BOTH for your style. Love it!!
Good comparison, but I would argue against the opinion that the x-mount has the better lens selection. MFT has gotten so many great lenses from Olympus, Panasonic and more recently Sigma, many of them very high quality.
Yeah this is true, I was focusing to much on native lenses and the Panasonic has MANY 3rd party lenses!
@@matthewstorerphotography I was laughing at this point too. Even native Panasonic has a much more mature line up- especially when it comes to zooms. Then multiply that 2x when you factor in the Oly lens lineup as well. Not even talking about 3rd party m43 has so many lenses I literally learn of new ones all the time and I've been shooting m43 for 12 years! I do like fuji's standard primes more though
HI Matthew just saw this video for first time in 2023 so i actually use both Fuji CSC X-H1 & X-s!0 and this mostly portrait and street and my lumix G9 i run purely for landscape with the aweseom 12-100 Olympus Pro and the Lumix Leica 100-400 - this all round set up suits all my needs - i run 56mm 1.2 + 90mm f2 + 35mm f2 primes
PS IM not a video shooter at all
It's a luxury to have this gear to choose from. Pentax apsc here. More than happy using for wildlife and landscape. Solid build, good glass. I think the trick is to work with what you have at its limit. Nice video, both cameras look great.
Couldn't agree more!
Agreed. I tested the G9 and I have owned X-H1 and tested EOS R and others and G9 has the best ergonomics I’ve ever seen.
100%
Oh SH1T!!!! I have the X-H1 and EOS-R but have been lusting over the G9 for almost a year. This video may have pushed me over the edge!
NetGawker hey man. Haha busy dialing in my video setting right now. It’s incredible value. And lenses are really nice. It’s worth holding out for the Leica Lumix lenses, very good!
I'm using a micro four-thirds camera. I use it because it has everything I need for professional work. its small and compact, at least the way that I have. I also have a lens that helps with low light so it's just a beast of a camera. maybe one day ill upgrade to full-frame
Great that it suits your requirement and needs :D
I have the XH1 and XT20 with 18-55, 23F2 and 35F2 all are great lenses and I’m very happy with Fuji because good image, Fuji film simulations, FLog, IBIS in XH1 and small body very compact with the XT20. I switch from canon to Sony and from Sony to Fujifilm since now 6 years with my first Fuji X100S and now I have just Fuji System I’m very happy
That is so good to hear that youre finally happy with it ;) glad you finally reached that point :)
Not a bad vid but you are crazy if you think Fuji has a better lens ecosystem than m43. The premier oly and panny lenses are expensive, sure, but the cover a crazy range at fast apertures.
Fair enough always good to know what others think.
@@matthewstorerphotography to be clear, I have full Fuji and m43 setups and typically use my Fuji. But m43 has an incredibly robust lens linup, thanks to Panasonic moreso than Olympus.
Yeah granted. You'd know a lot more than me for sure. I didn't use much of the M43 system lenses as system didnt suit my style. But always good to know
I use MFT because of its small size and weight, IBIS, features the camera's offer, and (most importantly) it suits my budget. I have a Lumix G85 which takes great photos and the IBIS can't be beat. I just got an Olympus OMD EM10 MK II because it is even smaller than the Lumix, has wonderful IBIS for video, and I can carry it around in my pocket for when I'm hanging with friends and I just want to have fun taking candid street photos and vids. Plus, and this is huge, Panasonic and Olympus allows you to swap lenses between their 2 systems. All totaled I paid roughly $1,300 for 2 camera bodies and 3 lenses (and the prices on all of these items has come down even more since I bought them). I'm so happy I got away from the clunky FF system. I think APS-C is a fine system, but size matters to me and MFT, with it's smaller form factor, just made photography a more enjoyable experience.
This is perfect Paul super happy that you found a system that you LOVE to use! :D
I love mft especially for Macro, Wildlife and Video! I disagree a little about the disadvantage for video. Or partly disagree. Because it depends on what type of video. I work with mft and APS-C and I have MFT as my first option for video. Exaggerated and frequent Bokeh is a trend at the moment, but it is, in my opinion, a regional and temporary trend / fashion. Very large openings can be disadvantageous in several circumstances, such as interviews, documentaries and situations where you want to give some dimension to the surroundings. It is also very important to point out, so as not to confuse those who are starting in the world of photography, the multiplication factor between mft and FF is 2 x, but only for DoF! The opening, the gain of light, is the same! In that case, an F1.2 lens is an F1.2 lens in any system! What changes is the DoF. And even the DoF is determined by other factors, such as distance to the photographed object and focal length. But these are just small observations. Excellent comparative, very clearly explained and competently filmed. Congratulations for the work!
Love that you have worked this out and found what suits your need, really appreciate the lovely comments :D
Wow! What a beautiful location! I am blown away...
Yeah it really is :)
So interesting that I’ve gravitated to the G9 from using X-H1 as well. The sigma trio of lenses also makes MFT appealing. Along with all the ergonomics and special high tech features.
I completely agree with this. Sigma make a great draw card for MFT
Matthew Storer yes. I know the 56mm is basically telephoto but it gets you the bokeh you need for portrait style stuff.
Good video mate. So just for travel photos (no video) - buy the MFT system?
That is correct - I think I would look at the new panasonic that has just been released. Very good and interesting camera!
Got both system, Fuji xt3 and g9. got some fun selection of lens from helios-44 adapted to both , Sigma 18-35 adapted to both "speed booster on M43" ,Sigma 28-70 2.8 A mount adapted to both "love the warm image from it" , kit lens for both and many others. why both use G9 for handheld and xt3 on gimbal and low light. can get clean hdmi out on both to atomos.
Great insight :D
Have been Interested in g9 for a while now but I like sport and action shots and I heard g9 is not for that . I have to downsize in weight for my camera my Nikon and lenses are to heavy after an accident but darn it if only g9 could handle bullriding and barrel racing in low light . Great video
Thanks so much! Goodluck for your quest :D
That's the info we have been looking for...! Gonna buy Fuji x-t4...!
true!
Hello Matthew, just came across your channel today so that is why my comments can seem late so to speak, subscribed just before this.
I am a MFT user and have little experience of using other formats. It is always amazing how MFT is not worth considering on the part of many because of this or that...and these same people, on you tube, have never tried a MFT camera - and thus have no knowledge to speak from - and just advocate Canola Nikon or Sony like so many others do.
I would like to take issue with something you said in your video. It has been awhile, you might like to rewatch your own words. In your video, despite being wildly enthusiastic about the G9 you still were referring to the Fuji as having "professional features" whereas you were not equating the G9 as being professional. Yes, you said this.
The words we use to describe things reflect our thinking and influence the thinking of others. Let us take the word professional. A profession is a job, what we get paid to do. Good photographers can be professional but they can also be enthusiasts. What equipment you use does not make you a professional. Cameras do not have "professional features" they have a variety of features used by professionals (those who earn money from their photos) amateurs and enthusiasts.
There are professional photographers who use Olympus or Panasonic (MFT) only. They have you tube channels and tell the world about how their business clients are so very satisfied with their work, they are professional photographers using cameras like OMD EM1X or Panasonic G9 or whatever. In fact it is almost insulting to suggest that MFT cameras are not professional or to not describe their features as professional.
Another matter: crop sensors. I would like to suggest that so-called full frame cameras also have cropped sensors. Back in the day, 35mm film was a "cropped" format compared to the medium format and large format film of the day. When the world went digital, clever marketing departments started calling what was up until then small format "full frame" and that sounds good, bigger is better than APS-C or M43...and so right from the start the way some clever marketers put it 'buy a full frame from us....the other cameras are not as good since the others have "cropped sensors".'..... And lots of folks fell for it. And there is a whole generation who is absolutely clueless. How we describe something influences how we see it. Maybe MFT gets a bad deal from the start with the "micro" at the start of the name and not because of the advantages and disadvantages of the system per se?
I will catch up on some more of your videos shortly, if I would add outside my two Lumix cameras and lenses I would probably go for the X-S10 with 2-3 lenses for the situations where my MFT kit struggles...but I am in no hurry to do this, still trying to be a better photographer/videographer with what I have before adding to my modest kit.
Yeah sorry I didnt look into the matters this deep, just how I felt using the cameras and my personal feelings. :D Thanks for you input, its extremely in depth and amazing insight
Forgot to include the fact that you also have to use the crop factor on the f-stop. So on f2 lens would actually be an F4 lens.
I'm a photographer whom primarily shoots wildlife and sports on the G9. The flip screen is probably one of the best thing ever. You can shoot at awkward angles without having to be in weird positions or gamble that you'll get the framing right cause your shooting blindly with a fix screen.
Thank you a photographer who agrees!!!! Haha that awesome mate insane camera for photographers!
I use FF Canon and MFT. From an investment perspective, I prefer investing in lenses as they don't depreciate as fast as bodies, so I keep the bodies at lower cost. My latest addition was the F1.2 Leica Nocticron for MFT which is a nice portrait lens.
I also like that MFT is multi-vendor (Pana, OM, Yi,...). I even have a speedbooster for adapting my Canon glass to MFT.
Enjoyed this Matt, found it to be a very informative discussion. Currently Canon FF but as I get older may need to review my needs but still have a good few years left in the tank yet.
Just looked at your Scottish workshop dates. Will be down south in March 2020 visiting family and going to the photography show but certainly will take a look at the 2021 dates. Loved the picture you used of Kilchurn Castle, Was there just over a week ago to get an image to get printed as a gift for a good friend
Yeah I found this super interesting also! Lovely setup and totally understand the concept of MFT. Just not for me particularly.
Yeah Scotland should be amazing doing sunrise, sunset and also milky way photography :) can ot wait for 2021 in Scotland :D hope to see you then :D
It's a good video, there was a firmware update to the G9 recently that upped it to "most of" the GH5 inc. 10bit.
I sold my GH5 at Xmas, whittled it down to these two cameras actually. Chose the G9 as I didn't like the recording time limits on the XH1 and the non flip screen.
100% understand that. Have seen the update and would love to much around with this camera more and more its crazy beast mode!!! Love it
Sorry to disagree, but 1.8 on APS-C or MFT is 1.8 no matter what. It's just the DOF that is different. A 25mm is a 25mm on MFT, APS-C or Full frame, but just cropped because of the sensor size, so it gives you the field of view of a 50mm on MFT. The light gathering capabilities depend on sensor technology and pixel size, so if you have two same-size sensors the lower the pixel number the bigger the pixel size and the better light gathering capabilities if all other variables are equal.
The problem is sensor resolution. To print larger you need more pixels, and as MFT sensors are small in comparison to APS-C and Full Frame, they have to pack 20 megapixels in a small size sensor, reducing its light gathering capabilities but increasing resolution. I have full frame and MFT cameras, I can adapt my Canon F1.4 lenses to my MFT and the 1.4 is an F1.4 on both cameras, however as my MFT is using just the central part of the lens the DOF is completely different and all the objects look closer losing the full frame DOF, but all other variables (aperture, shutter speed and ISO) are the same. It doesn't give out a darker or more grainy image.
So, if you want better low -light capabilities, besides improving sensor technology, you have to increase pixel size and reduce resolution. That's why the Sony A7SII has only 12 MP although it is a full frame camera.
You're 100% correct
Well not 100% correct. If you crop a Fuji 6000x4000 mp image into a 4:3 ratio image, guess what resolution do you get? 20 megapixels. So the claim that they pack more pixels in a smaller sensor is not accurate. It’s pretty much the same pixel density in both, APSC and Micro 4/3 sensors discussed in this video.
@@ibarrabenjamin1 With 26MP, the X-T4 offers a higher resolution than the G9 (20.2MP), but the X-T4 nevertheless has larger individual pixels (pixel pitch of 3.76μm versus 3.34μm for the G9) due to its larger sensor.
I own X-T3 and GH5. My plan was to sell GH5 and move completely to X-T3 . Fuji has excellent lens selection , plus killer colour science. However something magical about about M43 especially GH5, it is practicality and usability especially for video work . Amazing IBIS eliminates gimbal and tripod. Probably best ergonomics for video shooting. Also amazingly smooth 4K 60fps video.
Well I decided to keep my GH5 with 12-35mm F2.8 lens for my video shooting / learning journey.
That is an amazing comment mate. I love reading this sort of stuff. Super happy you found what works for you and most importantly the ease of use! :) brilliant work keep it up
Im in this same dilemma. I had a g85 w/ 12-35 and I LOVED it. I sold it off to get an XT3 bc I wasn't happy with the G85 continous AF. Now I love how solid the AF tracking is on the XT3 but for some reason the G9 and M43 system is calling me back.
The main reason why I want to go back is I miss IBIS on the m43 system. The G85 was smooth like butter so I can imagine how much better the G9 will be. Yeah the XT4 is coming out with IBIS but it added quite a bit of bulk to the camera. I prefer having the grip on the G9 for run and gun shooting and that parfocal greatness on the 12-35
Yeah 100% a hard one. Just have to find what suits your needs best and stick with it
@@ChristopherMichaelR did you move back to mft or did you stay with Fuji any regrets ?
Do they make any APS-C sensors placed into FF-sized bodies that have MFT-level IBIS and better cooling and such? If they did that'd probably be the GOAT camera. If they don't, then they should.
Beautiful scenery. Very nice music. What you try to tell specs wise is a bit controverse in respect to that. But that aside, I can appreciate the info very much . Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback really appreciate it :)
I'd loved the X-H1 inside the G9 BODY, grip is bigger. The body Grip on x-h1 is not so big as most people says, too thin and not so confortable, just the bigger grip on Fuji X lineup. Also G9 got better "Kaizen" support than X-H1 which is crazy :/
Yes I 100% ahhh thay would be a dream match
Thanks for the best & most objective comparison of MFT & APS-C on the Net by far. As an amateur who restarted photography after a long break, i went with Panasonic G95 due to cost, weight, & size esp with glass. And FYI, I just checked B&H which is actually showing a few more compatible lenses available for the G9 than comparable Fuji camera.
Thanks for watching!
The m/3 systems have the most mature lens selection. Massive. Put a 1.2f prime lens on the G9 and you don't have to bump to 6400. With that, and the latest G9 firmware upgrade, I'd take the Panasonic over the Fuji feature for feature.
Have not used the primes but would have been interesting didnt wish to invest to heavily in a backup system for me. But can honestly see where you are coming from, they are an amazing system! Feature packed!!
Good thing 1.8 primes from olympus or panasonic are extremely affordable and extremely lightweight! And in low light you wont exceed iso 800. Sigma 1.4 primes are also wonderfully affordable
even in 2022 ;) .. G9 kills a lot of the other camera's. i shoot easy under 800 iso at night. This because of the 5,5 stop IBS and than with the 1,5 stops on a lens and i get 6,5 to 7 stops of IBS.
I use the G9 as a PRO so it's 1000% Professional (Coming from a Fujifilm X-H1 and FF Canon R)
I don't agree what you say about ISO capability between fuji and pana. Fuji is under exposed every ISO ranges, therefore, fuji 12,800 is same exposure as pana 6400.
Very interesting, fuji do underexpose for sure
Great video, thank you.
Glad you liked it!
M4/3 system has greater variety of lenses to choose from than those in Fujifilm X system, from high quality professional expensive ones to dirt cheap extremely compact ones.
Yeah totally agree. Made a mistake in the vid
I really liked the video, but one detail bothered me a little. The use of the word 'professional'. I don't know if it's a problem with changing languages or not. But at least in Portuguese, the word 'professional' has a broader meaning. What makes something professional or not is what you get out of it. Many people live with different types of photography, and travel photography can become professional in such cases. So, what makes a photograph professional or not? This is very relative! So every care is necessary with the use of this word.
Thanks sorry about that. Totally my fault I apologise
im between panasonic g9 or fuji xt4. What u think is better for photos and video in general?
Between the two. I would suggest the X-T4 a lot more advanced in many many ways for both photo and video
Hey Matthew love your videos. I wanted to know if noise isn’t a problem for you and you don’t mind the smaller sensor would you then recommend the g9? I really want something lightweight and I’m tired of my Canon lenses. Would love to hear from you about that. Noise and lowlight is pretty much the only thing I’ve seen as an issue for the g9 so that’s why I’m asking
Hey mate I have done a full review about the G9 which you can find over on my channel :) but I would say 100% the noise is thr only issue for me with that camera. Otherwise its near on perfect and I would own one for surr
I have both, but I think I am going to sell off my G9 kit and here is why. While the G9 is a great camera, I think the image quality of the X-H1 is better. Looking at the images the X-H1 just seems to produce as more natural look of separation. The G9 produces really sharp images, but in an odd way, this sharpness tends to make the central subject pop so much, they almost appear pasted onto the background. While the X-H1 seems to show more layers of separation.
Interesting to hear! Great feedback!
I wonder if this is a M4/3 issue. I haven't seen anyone else mention the lack of...depth in the depth of field. You can achieve shallow DoF with M43, but it's blur is so flat.
Is that what you are referring too?
@@shanemitchellspencer I'm a happy M43 user and having use them for some time, I do agree with what you're saying. The out of focus areas look different, maybe even flat compared to other camera formats. Though I personally don't mind it.
@@Jaymino_ I don't mind it either. Just something I've noticed.
@@shanemitchellspencer I agree with this, I've been shooting m43 for the past 12 years. Love it. Decided to try out fujifilm and rented xt30 + 35 f/2. Personally over the shooting wide open for all conditions phase of photography and f/2 is roughly about the same bokeh as 1.7 on m43- But the difference I can see with Fujifilm is that there seems to be a more natural separation between foreground vs background? It's mostly subtle and hard to put my finger on it. currently not enough to make me jump ship but the difference is there
The a7Riv has the same pixel size as most m43 sensors (the 16mp ones), but it doesn't have the same noise problems?
Yeah true, the 20.3mp is a lot for MFT
Just curious, seems video seems important to you, why didn't you pick up the GH5 instead of the G9?
Great question, because what the G5 has the G9 almost compares to it close enough for what I needed. Just the low light that I would have needed than would have had to invest into the more expensive F1.4 lenses :) Personal taste
Great comparison of 2 solid systems, in a stunning location. As a wildlife photo/video shooter I currently use the Nikon D7500 (aps-c DSLR) with the Sigma 150-600mm C lens; great for stills, but terrible for video as the AF in LiveView is awful and the 4K incurs an extra 1.5X crop. Now looking at getting either the Fujifilm X-S10 or the Olympus OMD EM5 iii. Both look great all-rounders for stills and video so finding it tough to decide!
Thanks buddy - appreciate it!
I like the flippy screen, and the G9 feels better than any other camera I have held.
Leica Glass is also Top Of the Heap.
Well finally you have looked at MFT. l told you so, lots of bang for the buck's, and small lenses too. As l generally shoot mostly on holidays and while overseas l have to keep everything light. I Currently use a G7 but aspire to the G9 last time overseas l took 3 lenses but 90% of the time l used the Panasonic 14-140, seemed to do the job, night use or low light l swapped to the 25 1.7 but found it too narrow, would have preferred a 14mm or similar.
Regards Rob
Too true loved the Leica glass!!
Hahaha yes I can not lie. You've been one of the reason i looked at this system :P super glad I did actually. Gained a MASSIVE amount of respect, but also realised how much my Fuji gear suits my need also
How does the new Fujifilm X-T4 compare vs the Panasonic G9 with the updated firmware for photos, video, image stabilization, controls and ergonomics?
I am not using the Panasonic anymore, but think it would do well. Still like the low light out of APS-C personally
@@matthewstorerphotography why did you switch? are you only using fuji now?
I'm a lumix g7 owner, but I'm looking to switch because the autofocus is daunting
Unfortunately some misleading info in this video. First, comparing a prime APS-C lense 16mil 1.4 to a M43 Zoom lens 2.8-4mil of course will render different depth of field. There are lots of ways around this e.g. faster lenses or Speedboosters. If, however, max blurred background and max lowlight ultimately is what you are after, then larger sensors than M43 or APS-C would be the way to go. Secondly, it seems you missed the fw 2.0 upgrade for the G9 as this addresses some of the issues you are critisizing. Exposure contriol in 180fps being one of it. Thirdly, there are a range of erros in your descrption, e.g. when you say the aperture of f2.8 -f4 becomes f4 - f8 or when you say the G9’s codec is 150 megabytes. Of course you wanted to say 150 mbits. Not a big issue, but this confirms the overall lack of accuracy in this video. BTW I am shooting M43 aand FF and I am currently also looking at the XT4 as this is a fab camera. So I am not partisan when it comes to these formats. I use the tool that is needed for the specific purpose. Cheers.
Great insight thanks so much!
I agree with Sheik. I have a G9 and a OMD 10 MII: manage to get around the noise issues (most of the time) with speed boosters and IBIS. I use primes and lightweight zooms and get outstanding video and portability. I am closely looking at the XT4 but the Panasonic S1H is a contender too; both should work well in extreme low light scenarios. However, give me the M43 system every other day of the week. After all, it’s the person behind the camera that works the magic.
I'm curious, how did you do that low light G9 footage? It looks worse than my G90 at 6400!
I was in a darkish area, but did also use a ND filter but shouldnt have that much of an issue!
wait...can't you do 10 bit v-log on the G9 now though?
Yeah you are 100% correct. This was done the week before it come out :D
try using a speedbooster to get that apperture down
Thanks :D
I am crazy, i use all three :P
Mathew I love your channel and your professionalism. One suggestion, you keep switching hands and cameras back and forth expressing this one will do this and that's why I will only choose this one when I'm doing so and so. Its just impossible for people to know what camera you are referring to when all you say is "this one" or that one! I felt like just turning to another channel. I have to go back and forth to follow you because you are moving very fast and NOT clearly specifying which camera you are pontificating about from minute to minute. I'm a happy subscriber but very frustrated that you are not taking the time or consideration of your viewers to make sure they know what camera you are holding and speaking about when you keep going back and forth.
Ok Jerry dearly noted, thanks for this. I am stopping doing stuff like this anyway because I know I suck at it. My english is terrible and would prefer to just be back out in the field doing photography related stuff. People always pick me up on stuff I am not doing correctly with reviews, so I though I would save everyones times and just stop doing them. Thanks for your honest review, I really appreciate it :D
Hey Matthew!
I subscribed to your channel because I could clearly see how much thought you put in to your reviews! You made some of the best arguments and observations on what a unique and useful camera the Fuji XH I is and then you very honestly spelled out its drawbacks! Then you clearly and smartly explained why you also needed the newer Fuji to compliment the XHI. You really did an amazing job of explaining how you use the two cameras in a team approach!! Most CZcams reviewers don’t give as much original and in depth thinking as you do!! I also love how you do the reviews in such beautiful locations! Locations that you obviously like to work in! I hope you are able to keep doing your channel for as long as it suits your needs. I certainly understand and appreciate how monstrously time consuming it is to prepare so much information about so many cameras on a regular basis, film yourself, then edit and post. And then respond to fans, answer their questions comments etc. And oh yes, try to make a living by marketing yourself or your services, in addition to all the other parts of the job. I truly think you have the talent and the drive to bring great content and original thinking to the world wide photographic community!! I will continue to be a devoted fan of yours for as long as you continue to grace us with your original and unique observations on cameras, photographic and video-graphic matters!!!
Hi! I use The X-Pro2 by Fuji. I originally needed the tougher weather sealing due to the environment I was in. Lately I’ve been looking at the size and price of adding to my Fuji lens collection and am wondering if you would recommend switching to Micro Four Thirds because I can get the Lumix 12-35 and 35-100 and A 17mm prime and have all my focal lengths covered, or if you feel like Fuji delivers better Images and perhaps is the better long term investment. I love my 16mm f1.4, and I mainly shoot nature, street and surfing.
Mhmm... this is 100% personaly preference I dont think I can answer this for you unfortunely! I would prefer the Fujifilm line up with the litle larger sensor of the camera and I can handle the added size and price of the Fuji as it delivers PERFECT results for what I need it to do. Just follow your gut and trust it!
Dont leave fuji if they listened and put a flip screen and image stabilisation it's a win win
100% nope I am fully committed to Fuji now. I think soon then will have a perfect camera for me, but already I have a near on perfect camera!
Soo.. Why is the title in german?
Translation app
Since M43 has 1 stop more DOF you can shoot 1 stop wider aperature with M43 than you can with APS-C to get same DOF with same (equivalent) focal length. So that means no more noise for an equal DOF and exposure. So why then do I hear people saying M43 has more noise at a given ISO? You shouldn't be using the same ISO for M43 that you do for APS-C for same subject matter and lighting. You should be using one stop lower ISO omcthe M43. So the relevant question is how does noise compare when M43 at 1600 ISO and APS-C at 3200 ISO?
Ibis only works for stills. Now try using ibis with moving people in low light. If I would just shoot statics that doesn't move to gather more light, I can just use my smartphone for that with computational features (lesser quality but it still can be acceptable at social media uploads). It's not about being equivalent or such, it's about the situation you'll be using it for. As someone coming from m43 low light is just the second problem, main problem is the messy highlights and the poor dynamic range. As I grow more with photography I find myself shooting moving subjects in low light.
Great read :D
@@jeniyo9682I wasn't talking about IBIS, shutter speed, or motion blur, but since you mention those topics in an incorrect way in relation to my earlier point, I will now address those other topics as well.
M43 does offer the best IBIS due to being able to move the smaller sensor farther, but that is irrelevant to what I was saying earlier.
Relating my original point to motion blur (since you brought that up)...
Because M43 gives same DOF (with equivalent focal length lens) at 1600 ISO that APS-C gives at 3200 ISO...
The following settings give same exposure and same DOF.
M43 at 1600 ISO, Aperture F2, Shutter 1/60
APS-C at 3200 ISO, Aperture F2.8, Shutter 1/60
FF at 6400 ISO, Aperture F4, Shutter 1/60
M43 at 1600 ISO, Aperture F1.4, Shutter 1/125
APS-C at 3200 ISO, Aperture F2, Shutter 1/125
FF at 6400 ISO, Aperture F4, Shutter 1/125
Same exposure, DOF, and shutter speed in each. So same motion blur (or not) in each.
Which is why I think a valid noise (and dynamic range) comparison is with M43 at 1600, APS-C at 3200, and FF ar 6400 ISO.
I think M43 has very little if any low light disadvantage for moving subjects if you understand it. I also think M43 has an advantage for stationary low light subjects due to M43 having superior IBIS.
Are you from Adelaide?
Yeah I am haha how did you know. Well Pirie way actually!
Matthew Storer Photography your accent mate. You made a beautiful video here.
Have you tried 1.4 or 1.2 lenses on G9? I can get away with 3200 or 6400 on old a6000 but only with fast glass like sigma 1.4.
I didn't want to invest to heavily in the lenses because for my use the Fujifilm APS-C system works better for me :)
Great video, but this background-music tortures my brain, its too loud and super distracting from your voice.
Thanks - noted for next time :D
@@matthewstorerphotography
When I heard you saying that the aperture of f2.8-4 becomes 4.2-8 I stopped the video.
Thank you :D
yes because it is wrong. 2.8 is 2.8, it dose not matter witch system you use. The only difference is the bokeh.
Interesting content Matthew but next time please do some basic fact checking before posting your video. I did enjoy the Slovenian footage it's a beautiful country.
I visited your website to find out more about you. As a business tool it needs improving and lacks professionalism. The written content is poor in quality and full of typos and grammatical errors. I'd suggest getting someone in to write copy for you.
BTW you do realise you are breaching copyright law by displaying the Australian Made Australian Grown (AMAG) logo don't you?
Hey Peter, thanks! Sorry it wasnt perfect, I know it wasnt and I am far from it, so I guess my work shouldnt be either! I'm just trying my best.
I know my website is terrible and poorly written, but unfortunely I am doing it all by myself. I suck at writting and also speaking this has always been something I suck at and also have low self estimate about, so thanks for bringing it up. At the moment the costs in my business do not allow me to get an editor because well I am struggling to pay rent and buy food. So thanks for rubbing salt into the wound I guess.
Thanks for bring that to my attention, I have now removed it! :)
Best Regards
Matthew