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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2023
- Can this DIY build replace the need for an expensive track saw in our wood working shops? Plans link - www.izzyswan.com/Store/Foldin...
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Track saw is still priceless for those of us working in a small garage.
Agreed. Love this idea, but still don’t really have the room to maneuver 4x8 sheets. Track saw probably works better for me.
Agreed. Track saw is essential for a lot of diyers
My thoughts exactly. Also, that does you no good anywhere but in your large shop. Not mobile at all
Track saw is also now becoming legit my favorite tool. I have the makita corded and I can’t believe how quiet it is !
Yeah and a track saw can follow me to the jobsite easily whereas my table saw is not moving, and we all know the usefulness of a jobsite table saw
Once again, YOU ARE THE MAN!!! I desperately need infeed and outfeed tables for my saw, but don’t have the space for permanent tables-my wood shop shares my garage with a Mustang GT, so I have to be VERY space conscious in all of my shop fixtures and furniture. I think these will be PERFECT for what I need. Thanks, Izzy!
This is - BY FAR - my favorite jig you've done to date! 👍
You Sir are an inspiration for those of us who can't spend hours on our feet anymore. Excellent videos and info too.
I can spend the hours, but why if you don't have too!!
Glad to see you more enthusiastic than ever Izzy. Having you seen go through your back surgery a few years ago and you are back to new normal and always making something unique for the maker community is just heartwarming. You are one of my inspirations as a 70-year-old having gone through back surgery 10 years back but rehabilitated to getting back to my DIY shop to make many woodworking projects I enjoy. Greetings from NC
Great idea and I will eventually build these, IF / WHEN I have a shop with enough room to rip a full sheet on my TS. Seeing the tools & techniques you use is very helpful as well. Sitting when you can makes a lot of sense as well. Thanks for this video Izzy.
Certainly does what it is supposed to do! But, it doesn't solve the issue of needing 8' behind and in front of the saw. Still need the track saw in my smaller shop. Thanks for the content!
Right On. Cant fix space issues for sure.
Seems that the axiom of about never having too many clamps is also true about shop space. The room to maneuver a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood around a cabinet saw is enviable.
Yeah that's my problem too. I love the idea though!
I have size constraints as well, but I’m solving it with a panel saw to minimize the need to move full sheets around as much as possible.
@@JordanHaisley Yeah that's a great solution - now if I only had a wall to put one on I would build one. Definitely useful for breaking down large and smaller pieces.
I saw Jay's video on this and already planned to make a set for my small shop. Now seeing you're additions, I'll be including them as well. This is a great upgrade to an already fantastic jig.
One of the more BRILLIANT designs I've ever seen. THANK YOU for sharing this. You always have such GREAT ideas for nifty stuff, but this is SUPERB.
Love this channel, I work away from my shop quite often, so a track saw is very handy when doing projects on my rentals...this is great for my limited back capabilities and let's me finish my days with comfort at 72 years of age...thx Izzy!
Holy cow Izzy, thank you for sharing this. I am also retired and it is devices like this that will help keep me in the shop longer and doing the normal projects I like doing. As you get older you need devices like this to compensate for the natural loss of strength and dexterity. You could start another business developing devices like this to help us old goats and nannies Looking forward to the plans. 😊
Awesome addition to the table saw for plywood maneuverability, I can see it is a must for woodworkers.
Perfect way to handle large sheets of material. Thanks for taking the time to put together the plans and the build video.
What a great aid to those of us who struggle with large sheet goods. I have a track saw, but always hesitate to use it because of the extra work, set-up, clean up, etc. Especially when I have a 62" saw just sitting there. Also, the "getting floppy as you get older" comment really hit home. I was glad I didn't have a mouth full of coffee when you said it. Haha. Thanks.
Fully on board with this jig system, and yes also to noticing & appreciating Jay Bates' version.
Hello, Izzy! Thank you and your videographer for such a wonderful tutorial on a device with such profound process efficiency and safety for working with panels on a tablesaw instead of having to resort to track saws. Truly impressed! At age 70, greatly appreciated the humor at 7:58 + : ) That was very good, and tasteful, and to do both with the cut-in was simply genius. Bravo!
I really am impressed with your ingenuity and tutorial skill. I can see you think in 3D, with both left and right hemispheres synchronized in harmony. Keep up the great work! Cheers!
One of my favorite parts of many of your videos is when something works out really well, and as you're testing it out, you laugh with the joy of a successful builder. It just never gets old.
I built these after seeing Jay's but I like your added features. After building a kitchen, garage and workshop cabinets I told myself I'm done working with plywood. I said that but then followed up with geometric plywood bookshelves for my son! Guess I should just make this upgraded version. Nice work.
You're such a great teacher! (concise, clear, orderly, creative) Thank you so much!
I really appreciate how you mentioned the differences in other table saws, particularly the Laguna.
I'm in the process of building an outfeed/assembly table. Have been thinking about what to do on the infeed side. You have just answered all my questions! Thank you for this video!!
As always, Great job Izzy!! You've been an inspiration for years! Thank you for sharing your skills and knowledge.
Your game has changed and it is absolutely in the positive direction. Thank you, you are diy friendly and I subscribe. You are an excellent instructor/teacher. Please continue to share your ideas and disregard the pus that comes out of these squeezed pimples who have negative comments- the are simply discarded on a paper towel that goes into the ranks of sewage! Your work is very appreciated. Thank you
Glad to see you well. Enjoy watching and listening to your process. God bless you and yours.
Sure, it works well for you guys that have wood shops the size of airplane hangars. By comparison my shop is the size of a postage stamp. I have to go outside just to turn around. A track saw, and saw horses ,in the yard will stay my go to.
Quit yer moanin'. My shop, I have to go outside if I want to change my mind.
It's worth it just to watch you get so excited. Good to see you back in the game. Such a nice jig. So practical and easy to build. Keep up the awesome content..
Thanks Izzy, cool design. And for those of us that don't have a lot of space another pair can be used as out-feed legs.
Love the idea. Thank you for all you do for the community
Once again you demonstrate your engineer brain at work! Great solutions to problems don't have to be fancy or expensive. Excellent!
Thanks for the video. A very practical yet inexpensive jig.
Izzy you are one badass mad scientist! I have a jobsite saw incorporated into a 72"x38" bench for outfield. I am inspired to make this and adapt it to my setup. Cause yes my tracksaw works great but it is an additional step in breaking down sheet goods. Love your work!
Izzy, this is great! I was planning on building an infeed for my Flip-Top Table Saw cart (you can see it on my channel) but it was different than this one. After seeing this one, I've changed my mind. I'll be making one like this and adapt it for my cart. Great work! Thanks!
Great job on this video. I thoroughly enjoyed the detailed instructions and the best practices on tapping the holes. Great job!!!
I saw Jay's video when it came out and liked the idea. Your upgrades are great. I see a couple of shelves mounted under the table saw wing to store these when not in use.
Izzy, you're brilliant. Every time I watch your videos, I learn some of the >simplest< cool ideas. Thank you sir!
Definitely handy but for those of us with a table saw that's only 32-36" capacity, there is still a need for a track saw depending on the size of cut. Like I have no way to cut a sheet down to a 48x48peice plus the remainder without a track saw.
i talk about the value of track saw at the end of the video. i Agree with you for sure.
I am curious what a resolve to this problem is. because I am picturing a sled that rails to your saw's outside giving umlimited capacity on your saw, but still using this jig for handling the sled and material.
@@diywtlc2249 I was thinking the same thing.... I'd love to see someone give it a shot
Izzy, GREAT job. Thanks so much for the idea. I’ll be building a set of these very soon.
Thanks for reminding me of Jay's system and your additions look great. Now I really have to get this done for my shop.
Ok, using thin CA to lock pieces into place!! It's so obvious I never thought of it. If nothing else, this was extremely helpful to me! I love this setup
I've been using a modified Bora Panel Carrier (PM-1850) in a similar fashion for a couple years now. But the locking clamps that firmly affix yours to the table saw rail are a fantastic upgrade!
Really cool! Seems like a must for anyone with a cabinet saw! I was surprised to see you tapping the wood, I would typically expect a t-nut for the adjustable feet.
OMG I wish I’d seen this years ago. Thanks Izzy! Gonna build these this weekend!
I always enjoy your videos and I can see how much joy it brings you to share your knowledge to all your subscribers. Cheers mate have a great weekend
Even having a track saw for on-location work, what a fantastic tool this is for working large pieces in the shop. Most shops I've been in have a rolling table to butt up against the saw to cut plywood. But this is actually better, because having the legs separate, leaves room to move the boards forward without leaning, which is usually how it goes. Here, you just walk forward in between the legs to make the cut more stable.
VERY nice work. Thanks to Jay for the idea, and you for the adaptation!
you are impressed too easily
@@wizardmaster6639 Meanwhile, you appear to be an absolute joy sponge. 🤡
You're having way too much fun. No floppy in your shop. Awesome tool Izzy, as always.
That’s a great idea. I like your add-ons. I think I’ll have to set aside some time this weekend and make a set. THANKS!
Jay's design is cool, in fact, it helped me to design and build the extension for my crosscut sled support, an idea I got from you. Way to go Izzy.
I've got an 8 foot outfeed table (that doubles as a workbench) and a side table that is the same height as the table saw to support the material when I crosscut. For 30 odd years, I've been manhandling sheet goods onto my table saw but as I've gotten older, it has become more of a burden. This is a great solution of supporting the material before it fully gets on the table.
This is so cool, I must build one for myself. Your way of presenting it is also very inspiring
Love me some Jay Bates and Izzy Swan. Built my simple ones after seeing Jay's video, which took me less than an hour, out of scrap wood laying about the shop. It has really made panel break downs and sizing so much easier. Izzy, I will make one of yours after making some shop upgrades. Keep those videos coming!
Outstanding Izzy I’ll definitely be making this!
Looks great if you have the space to make use of it. That loading function is awesome. I'm working from a one car garage where I just don't have the space to physically maneuver full 4x8 sheets on the table saw. I don't have the infeed/outfeed length to rip them or the width to crosscut them. Even just moving and storing the sheets is a pain, so plywood sheets usually end up on sawhorses on the driveway as soon as I get them home. I've gotten by without a track saw, but will probably get one next time I have to do a bunch of cabinets.
Consider getting one of those Kreg circular saw t square guides... they work well on rough breakdown of sheet goods and you can refine at the table saw to final dimension
your tricks never cease to amaze me.........thank you!
I think you "nailed it"!
This is definitely the greatest table saw accessory since sliced bread.
Been a subscriber for awhile now, because you always come up with the greatest jigs! Thanks for this idea and all the ones in the past!
That there...is exceptionally clever! Well done Izzy!
Thank You Izzy !!! What a great jig build. It looked straight forward, easygoing and looks so clean. This is one project I’m going to do when I get a round to it. Thinking I might need one of humming suction things. Well done, as always a pleasure to see.
Hey this works pre cut and an outfeed table too. You could also do something like this for the left side of the table for long parts kind of like a sliding table saw.
Ive cut 4x8 sheets of 3/4" mdf each sheet is about 80 lbs and on a table saw its pretty hard to solo deal with big sheets like that all day long.
But one thing i see is it traps the oprator behind the blade, so extreme mesure need to be taken to stop kickback like attaching something to the fence to hold the cut parts to the table with down forces so the part cant ride up off the table, but the desine had made this less a hazard as the parts not going to try to lean back and down from its weight. Lowering the chance of kickback.
Great info here, Izzy! I will check your plans out and maybe build one of my own.
Izzy very neat Idea, I think this might be my next project. I primarily use my tract saw for straight edging my rough cut lumber before jointing . Saving hours standing at the jointer making multiple passes. I almost never put up full sheet goods on my table saw, because of not wanting to wrestle it up there. I almost always use Cnc for that but it’s time consuming programming for simple projects that can be quickly done on a table saw. Thanks for the idea.
Another amazing idea two great ideas coming together to create one great thing.well done Izzy and Jay
One of my favorite woodworking channels. It's beyond me that you haven't reached 1 million subscribers yet! Thank you Izzy!
i really like those adjustable locking levers. i use them for jigs. that is a GREAT sheet good extension / lift!
I saw this on Jay Bates channel many years ago and couldn’t build one fast enough. It works so well it got me started in the commercial cabinetry game……which resulted in a panel saw. Go figure…….some very nice improvements Izzy.
Fine idea of you have a big workshop and a big table saw. It doesn't replace the functionality of a track saw. For most of us planning the project so you can have the plywood ruffed out on a panel saw at the lumber yard in manageable pieces is cheap or free. Then true them up on your table saw. I built a whole kitchen for my son who lives 3 hours away in my 10 x14 shed by having my plywood cut into halves or thirds at Lowes. I then used a track saw to break them into near finished pieces. I only have a DeWalt contractor table saw on a portable stand and use that for final sizing on critical pieces. But God bless anyone with a larger workshop who makes a living at woodworking. Lastly, it is inspirational to see the creative mind at work to solve problems.
Thanks Izzy! I am sooooo making a set. I saw Jay’s video also. Cheers!
These infeed supports are great for table saw in shop. Track saw reigns supreme for non-parallel cuts, as often required for remodeling and finish carpentry.
thank you Izzy .its amazing how at 20 ish moving a sheet of plywood was no big deal . however at 70 with no back its a big deal . looks like a good deal
You are a joy to watch! I bought your dust collection connectors... they are outstanding.
Thank you!
Saw the video of the original earlier today. These are some pretty clever additions
You already know that I admire your innovations. All the best for the future to you and Maggie. She really needs her sense of humor 🌞
seen several infeed vids, this is hands down best one!
That is a great idea. And I agree, breaking down you plywood is far faster on a table saw. Even at 70 years old , I can still muster a 4x8 sheet of 3/4 inch plywood on the table saw and I always have to do it by myself. But I am not going to say it is easy. Those jigs will help considerably. In the last year I got a Makita track saw which I like a lot, but no way is it anywhere near as fast as the table saw. On the table saw, I set the fence and I cut. Never have to take out a tape measure or pencil and mark anything. Really enjoy you videos. My best to you and Maggie.
Great for a huge saw and a huge place like you have. For my jobsite saw I’ll take the track saw thank you very much.
I just came across your page , this is a great video and this is definitely a game changer for my sawstop
Great project. I may make a second one but with 3 legs for use as an an outfeed support system.
Awesome solution. LOVE IT!
You could use this for creating dovetail joints if you clamp a piece vertically on your tilting table and come up with a way to lock one of the axes at measured increments.
Absolutely Amazing!
Well done!
I remember this build when Jay built it, if I had a larger shop this would be a viable option for me. As it is now, my basement shop is so small that I don't even have room to store a track saw let alone try to build this jig for my table saw, floor support beams are in the way. So I get to do things the hard way, I use a long level and a regular circular saw to get the job done.
oh wow, that is super clever. it's nice they fold up and can store them somewhere else.
I don't have an outfeet table so I think I could also use this to build an outfeed side. Super great project!
Nice idea, and then your infeed and outfeed could fold away in next to no space.
My table saw has a hinged outfeed table on it, and that's a godsend.
Your workshop is the size of a football field, mine is the size of a postage stamp. No way could I function without my track saw and MFT table. but as always your videos are both informative and entertaining.
Nice..love the way you are explaining everything. You do sound more enthuse
Definately an excellent solution given the space. I also like it as just an additional infeed/outfeed surface in a "regular size" shop. A little modification of length as needed and Bob's your Uncle.
This is a great addition for the tablesaw. However....something that is overlooked in a small shop....is that a track saw only requires a 4x8 foot space in which to work while a tablesaw requires 8.5 feet on the infeed and a further 8.5 feet on the outfield side. Add an additional 2 or 3 feet for the saw table itself and you have 20 lineal feet of space required at a minimum, to rip sheets.
What makes you think you need 4x8 for a track saw?
The sheets are 4x8 and require no infeed or outfield space. The sheet is cut in place.
@@JScottAudio the point is w track saw is the size of the track. You aren't required to cut full sheets with it. The table saw is a set size and doesn't make it better than a track saw for many applications.
I build Kitchens, closet organizers and entertainment centers.... these require 4x8 sheets.
Another cool video,stay well Izzy.
Awesome idea! Ill be doing this. Thanks!
Videos with you making stuff are the best
I’m glad you are doing better
I love how you work.
Brilliant, Izzy! Fantastic work!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Instant sub after the step bros quote!! Always gotta love the extra room for activities!!
Excellent!!! Job very well done.
You "IZZ" a genius, bro. I need to get this figured out for my Unisaw/Unifence.
Genius. Thank you Jay, thank you Izzy!
Bro!!! So freaking dope. Thank you for the effort and the video.
Those are awesome -- my shop needs!
This is amazing !! Nice work!
Excellent stuff as always, thank you. Cheers.