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  • @westsidebeaches
    @westsidebeaches Pƙed rokem +6

    May Allah protect uncle omar against these clowns.

  • @Nab1L007
    @Nab1L007 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    May Allah free my somali people from the shackles of Najdism

  • @TheAbuFulaan
    @TheAbuFulaan Pƙed 2 lety +12

    I hope the Somali brother reads this message - brother you’re jaahil and it was cringeworthy watching you speak with such confidence in yourself and what you’re saying despite the fact it goes against the very basic foundations of our religion
    I hope my brothers can please learn their lane and humble themselves and not speak on topics except that they have done the relevant work that qualifies you to speak about it

    • @gaalkacyo1634
      @gaalkacyo1634 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Eventhough he might have made slight mistakes his point and message is correct that itis indeed impermissible to rebel against muslim rulers according to Quran and Sunnah and the consenseus of scholars. Anyone who says its ok is an ignoramus and need to educate themselfs.

    • @kotime6543
      @kotime6543 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@gaalkacyo1634 There's no 'might' he made mistakes.

    • @gaalkacyo1634
      @gaalkacyo1634 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@kotime6543 I agree but my point still stands

    • @depersonalised6074
      @depersonalised6074 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@gaalkacyo1634 what you know about gaalkacyo warya

    • @gaalkacyo1634
      @gaalkacyo1634 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@depersonalised6074 Im from Gaalkacyo warya

  • @kotime6543
    @kotime6543 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    The first brother needs to learn his religion before approaching Omar, he's all over the place.

    • @kotime6543
      @kotime6543 Pƙed 2 lety

      @Karido Kutu The first brother Mahmoud.

  • @makkahcadey
    @makkahcadey Pƙed 2 lety +5

    The brother who said Siyād Barre was a kafir, literally contradicted himself and was immature. 1st of all I don’t believe Siyād Barre said such, rather, it was more like him giving equal rights to men and women when rape increased and women were oppressed by men with culture. The men were given inheritance and the women were refused inheritance, that's why Siyad Barre said women have rights like men, he was changing the oppressive culture of women not having rights and religion not being used, infact he expanded the number of Masajids and destroyed many churches.
    He might not have been a practising ruler but never against Allāh directly like that, because that is a grave slander and from what we know it’s near impossible and I truly believe like that Arab man was saying that it’s FAKE NEWS and that he was using his logic because people do know what kind of ruler he was. You young Somalis who talk like that take from elders who are biased against Siyād Barre and I can guarantee Somalis love to add: for example 160 words into a single sentence and slander much. I advise you to learn from non-bias historians and learn about him as well as many of his speeches.
    And the uncle is right that “Siyad B isn’t here-so go back to Somalia” and “ why don’t you go back”. You’re killing the old man with your lack of respect by saying “Khuruj is Haram” yet saying “I’m here because Siyad Barre” it wasn’t Siyad Barre that got you out you miskin it was KHURUJ at least if you learnt Khuruj you should have had a clear example of its effects as Somalis are found in anywhere and everywhere and destitute and poverty and ignominy. The humiliation that a country can not even rebuild or unit in 30+ years, never the world has seen it-like a ruin place!
    Furthermore, even if someone does clear kufur and even so it still needs to be clarified shirk it 1st HAS TO be established they know what they are doing and if they have some ignorance in the matter.
    How then dare you call Siyād Barre a kafir without knowing if he repented from it or not? HOW? Are you telling me Allāh doesn’t forgive if such statements are made doesn’t Allāh even forgive shirk before death? Were you there when Siyād Barre was dying?
    It shows your ignorance because you are contradicting yourselves. You arguing,nearly giving the old uncle a heart attack to not call a Muslim a ka for yet you call Siyad B a kafir whilst not hearing it with your ears. And even if you heard it with your ears then you can call him a kafir but since time passed(even a second a person can take something back) then all you can say is “IM not sure if he repented from his statement/action before they died”. You couldn’t say that. 1st it shows how indoctrination has got to you of tribalism and that you have no understanding of what you are arguing about on the case of Deen.
    Siyaad Barre brought dignity and name back to Somalis. Yes he wasn’t ruling by the shariah but stela’s t we weren’t in what we are. Shows you don’t understand the wisdom behind the prohibition of Khuruj. AND no, it’s not what he did and yes, you don’t know politics or what it takes for country and a nation to be raised. Why don’t you build your country now, Siyad B died in 1995 WE ARE IN 2022! Shows you are all still asleep. Shame on you Somalis, the reason why I’m here and the reason many stuff happened not only in my family BUT ALL Somali families is BECAUSE OF KHURUJ-open your eyes and look at the Somalis. Look at the people living in Somalia and tell me that was a good Khuruj it was worthy it. You are conditioned and still in jahiliyyah so come out of that qabil she’ll and use your intellect.

    • @fieldmarshal7081
      @fieldmarshal7081 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Wallahi you are right some Somalis are trying to do khuruj now

    • @makkahcadey
      @makkahcadey Pƙed 2 lety

      @@fieldmarshal7081 exactly, they are blinded by tribalism still, even after learning their Deen,as they come across knowing what khuruj supposedly means. All the suffering of the Somali people,particularly those who didn't flee the war and the millions of Muslim blood shed(not because of a ruler hut TRIBALISM and they deny it) still they think it was worth it. They who claim to follow the Messenger alayhi salatu wa salam and claim Salafiyah yet still entrenched with tribalism are ignorant conditioned liars. Khuruj is evil when it's must be done. I don't know what world they live in but they need to learn honesty and seek knowledge about what it takes to build a country, what are the rulings on a fasiq Muslim ruler, when khuruj is permissible as well as when it is permissible but not the right time. I wouldn't be living in the cold weather of Britain, and somali youngsters wouldn't be drug dealers,in gangs and full in prison whilst some even deported and thousands wouldn't die at sea, many losing the Deen and many becoming lgbt, on top of the millions their homes and lands taken by force and the wealth of the people eaten. Somalia is a grave yard of the Muslims blood-done by Muslims. And some still argue it was worth it. They are like a people who ruined their own house(their country) and think they did a good job at it. Imbeciles!

    • @yusufahmed1993
      @yusufahmed1993 Pƙed 2 lety

      Don't defend siyaad Barre there are clear cut evidences of him describing the verses of inheritance in jest(arrogant manner) secondly he instituted communism which is clear cut kufr ideologies so don't try to side with nationalism over the Deen, fear Allah Siyaad Barre was never a good example for the Somali nation

    • @fieldmarshal7081
      @fieldmarshal7081 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@yusufahmed1993 the deen is not to rebel so stop this khuruj khariji mentality.

    • @abdiasisali
      @abdiasisali Pƙed rokem

      @@fieldmarshal7081
      Asalama alaykum:
      You said stop this Khariji mentality.
      So what is your advice what should we do with leaders who are against Sharia. Are they still leaders for you even if they are against Sharia just like Sead Bare who some Somalis worship although he was communist and denied some verses frone Quran and he become kafir.
      You will become kafir even if you denie one letter off Quran.
      So to say haq truth is that Khariji mentality 😁
      We Muslims frome Somalia know that people like Sead Bare was not Muslims and they killed our Scholars just becous they called people to worship only Allah.
      May Allah make you understand my point people who are following Tawhid know what Im talking about.
      Dont take what I said personal it is only advice and correction nothing else.
      Asalama alaykum
      peace

  • @ainanshewarsame
    @ainanshewarsame Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Let's be civil insha Allah

  • @kaka1412
    @kaka1412 Pƙed rokem +2

    Uncle Omar be nice to THE brother behind you

  • @alimohamed9107
    @alimohamed9107 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    The siyaad barbecued rule the Somalia was greatest country in Africa or the world self independe. Then siyaad had accident and some thing went wrong in 1980.s

  • @birdnestratfest
    @birdnestratfest Pƙed 2 lety

    Here is the beggining of the conversation
    czcams.com/video/Pl9Bk9ySN7Y/video.html
    ⬆ when that video stops....continues on this video your watching at - 4:40

  • @TheQuranExplainsItself
    @TheQuranExplainsItself Pƙed 2 lety +6

    So a tyrannical “Muslim” leader = don’t rebel.
    A just non Muslim leader = Rebel.
    Giver me a dumber comment than that I dare you 😂 đŸ˜‚đŸ€ŠđŸżâ€â™‚ïž

    • @samoabokar5854
      @samoabokar5854 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Obey allah and his messenger but not the everyday writings and practices of the prophet

    • @TheQuranExplainsItself
      @TheQuranExplainsItself Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@samoabokar5854 do you think you’ve resolved this nonsense?

    • @destiny6080
      @destiny6080 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@samoabokar5854 I'm pretty sure those practices and writings are sunnah
      But I'm just guessing so
      Allah knows best.

  • @ahassan4151
    @ahassan4151 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Us Hawiye love seeing isaaq and darood Argue about Siyad Barre 😂 We just chilling and ruling the government

    • @kevinthomson2691
      @kevinthomson2691 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Isaaq are not part of somalia.

    • @libanali1464
      @libanali1464 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      😂😂😂 Isaaq have their own country which is doing better then Somalia. Us Isaaqs love seeing hawiye and darood fight over a failed state. đŸ’šđŸ€â€ Viva somaliland

    • @destiny6080
      @destiny6080 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@jakobjama4612 uhh what?

    • @ainanshewarsame
      @ainanshewarsame Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Qabyaalad waa qurun

    • @loojir30
      @loojir30 Pƙed 2 lety

      Maxaad ka faideysa inaad qabiil meesha soo gelisid Subhan Allah malaha maad fahmin nawduuca laga hadlaayo.
      Qabiil ayaa madaxa kaa galay Waliba waad na ceebaysay hadal nucaaso kale ayaad ku soo qoreysa Ingriis .
      Waxaa aad qortay dad ayaa akhrinaya frome all over the world.
      Shame on you may Allah guide you and give health frome this sickness off qabyaalad.
      Waan ku qasbanaaday inaan ku jawaabo waayo waxaas damiirku ma aqbali karo Muslim ahaan.

  • @ekko7014
    @ekko7014 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    This topic is kinda heavy and shouldn't be discussed among laymen and why even approach uncle Omar to discuss this.

    • @ekko7014
      @ekko7014 Pƙed 2 lety

      @Karido Kutu No, I don't

    • @gaalkacyo1634
      @gaalkacyo1634 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      The topic is very clear cut though. According to Islam rebellion against muslim leader is haram. Simple. Those who say its permissible are in the wrong as that statement goes against Quran, Sunnah and the consenseus of muslim scholars.

    • @gaalkacyo1634
      @gaalkacyo1634 Pƙed 2 lety

      @Karido Kutu Theres only one Islam. The somali guy is speaking according to what Islam actually says when he said rebellion is haram against muslim leader. The extremist old man is not speaking according to islam when he says rebellion against muslim leader is permissible. Get it? So what if muslims cant be close friends with non muslims?

    • @gaalkacyo1634
      @gaalkacyo1634 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @Karido Kutu One guy is right and the other is wrong theres ur answer. Secondly you can be kind to non muslim and be just to them and give them gifts, visit them and so on but only if they are not enemies of Islam. Meaning if they are enemies of Islam like forexample someone who kill muslim or support killing of muslim were not allowed to be kind to those people but non muslim who are kind to muslim we are kind to them

    • @ekko7014
      @ekko7014 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@gaalkacyo1634 yeah you're right. A real example would be Libya. People went against Gaddafi and the entire country is lawless right now.

  • @patlimkh
    @patlimkh Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    Why are Muslims fighting amongst themselves? Really sad to watch 😱

  • @comegetitlarsen5918
    @comegetitlarsen5918 Pƙed rokem

    You are head a skin 😂😂😂

  • @sonay-mieheart2378
    @sonay-mieheart2378 Pƙed 2 lety

    Well Now If I May Said Today, Have A Nice Sabbath Day, It Will Be Translated As, Have A Nice Rest Day, And This Not Meaning, That It Have To Be On Saturday, Cause I Don't Know Which Day In The Week Is, Become The Seventh Day Of The Week, Right? However, Here In Europe Today Is Almost Finished, And Yesterday Have Is Become The Past, Tomorrow Is Yet To Come, Right?
    Remember The Sabbath And Keep It Holy, If Thy Are Willing Thy, Can Go And Seek Through The Book Of Hebrew, And Thy May Encounter The Insight, Behind The Sabbath!
    This Earthbound, Seems Wild Growing Is Like A, Forest Where If A Sincere Openly Heart May Speak, I Will Be Writing Comments About The Reality That Some Are Acting As, Animals Attacking One Another Aggressive, Where You May Observe And Behold, There In The Societies, People In The State Of Undergoing Pain, Distress, And Hardship, Others Are Organizing Religions, Sects Which Are Rising As, Poisonous Mushrooms Through The Woods, Aiming Enrichment, Wealthiness, And The Way Of Dwelling In Luxury, Them Focusing Ain't The Revelation-Light, But On Money, So The Root Of All Kind Of Wickedness, Is Become Them Authority,
    So Them Worry Ain't, The Unwelcome Circumstances Who Are Arising, Because Of The Influence Of The Evil Spirits, Who Are Influencing, The Mentalities Who Are Longing To Become, Acquaintance Ministers, Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Preachers, And Evangelists Which Will Receive, Invitations To Go Preach, And Make Money Into The Churches,
    If A Sincere Openly Heart May Speak, Reality Of Those Events, It May Become The Sermons, Proclamations Into Those Gatherings, Of Those Who Keep Believing, That Those Personalities Who Nominating Themselves As, Ministers, Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Preachers, And Evangelists Are Servants, Sent By The Only Anointed One, Which Is The Messiah, The One And Only Appointed Shepherd As, Pastor To Pasturing The Humans, Into This Earthbound!
    Well Now Even I Am Not An Apostle, Prophet, Pastor, Teacher, Shepherd, Rabbi Neither An Evangelist Yet, One Can Behold Me As, A Suckling, Seeker And Observe Me As, Postman, Whom Comments Can Be Seen As Wrapped Sweetness And Still, To Taste Those Commentaries?
    However, One Need To Suck On Them So One May Swallow Their Sweetness, And Taste Them Insights, But One Need To Takes One's Own Time To Ponder About Them, So That It May Become Understand By Ones Mind, And In That Manner, One May Rejected Them Or Accepted Them As Insights, Right?
    Well Now The Journey Of A Humanity, Into This Earthbound May Be Observed As, Particular Lesson Bigger Then Ones Own Wondering, Yet It Will Be Always A Good Idea To Keep Pondering, Because Even Some Those Lessons, May Being Wrapped And If One Will Not Ponder, About Them One Will Not, Be Able To Unwrapped Them, Right? So In Accordance To This Spiritual Insight, Pondering Is A Healthy Activity For Ones Own, Mind!
    However, A Womb Will Behold A Baby And That, Child Will Born And That Suckling Will Keep Swallow All Kind Of Insight, In This Earthbound, And When That Person May Become Mature, That Human Will Filtering Those Insights, And Keep The Reasonable Ones, As Ones Own Private Treasure, Well Now One Of Them Is, That: Adam And Eve, Did Born From A Womb Just As, The Messiah Have Born From A Woman, So All Tree Is Been Born In A Natural Manner!
    Well Now The Messiah Have Been Conceived By The Holy Spirit, And Still Adam And Eve Have Been, Conceived By Humans, And Been Personalities Have Been Formed, By The Creator As, It Is Been Written And Explained: Therefore Shall A Male Leave His Father And His Mother, And Shall Love His Female And Be Faithful To Her, From Then On They Are Agreed As, One Mentality! Therefore, Whom The Creator Has Joined Together, Let Nobody Separate!

    • @sonay-mieheart2378
      @sonay-mieheart2378 Pƙed 2 lety

      Researching, The Word Reasoning, In Accordance To The Spiritual Insight, Will Be Definite As, The Action Of Thinking [Pondering] About Something In A Logical [Insightful], Sensible Way [Reasonable Manner], And Still If A Human Will Takes One's Time Start To Investigate Systematically The Truth, By Studying Of Materials And Sources In Order To Establish Facts, And Reach New Conclusions, About The Verity [The True Principle Faith, Especially The One Of Fundamental Importance] That Was Handover By The Messiah!
      Although, Someone May Conceived [Form A Mental Representation Of] An Insight, In The Mind Of A Human, And Put That Person To Reasoning, About That Idea!
      Well Now To Begin With, If The Most High Authority Of The Messiah, So The Head Of All Mankind? Then A Human Need To Search Through The Sources, Who Is Been Inspired By His Spirit, Right? Well Now What I Start To Wondering And Pondering, Is That The Name Of The Prophet, Is Point Out A Certain Meaning, Lets Said,
      The Prophet Isaiah Do Mean, In Hebrew Yesha'yahu, And It Revealed That Yahweh, Is Salvation, Well Now When Miriam [Means Beloved, But As Well Sea Of Bitterness, Or Drop Of The Sea And Star Of The Sea] The Mother Of Immanur'El, Means In Hebrew: Yah Is, With Us Joseph [Is A Common Masculine Given Name, Derived From The Hebrew Yosef Meaning, He Will Add], Thou Son Of Dawid [Which Was Derived From Hebrew Meaning Beloved, Or Uncle] Her Male Have Start To Wondering, And Pondering About That Situation, Right?
      Well Now Let's Go And Take The Book Who Have Written, About This Event, Which Is The Book Of Matthew [Stems Originally From The Hebrew Name Mattityahu, Which Means Gift Of Yahweh, Or Gift Of Yah] Chapter 1 Verses 18 - 23, Now The Birth Of Yesha'yahu [And It Revealed That Yahweh, Is Salvation] The Messiah Was In This Way, When His Mother Miriam [Means Beloved, But As Well Sea Of Bitterness, Or Drop Of The Sea And Star Of The Sea] Was Espoused [Embraced, Adopted Or Supported] By Joseph [Is A Common Masculine Given Name, Derived From The Hebrew Yosef Meaning, He Will Add], Before They Came Together, She Was Found With Child, Of The Holy Spirit.
      And Joseph [Is A Common Masculine Given Name, Derived From The Hebrew Yosef Meaning, He Will Add] Her Supporter, Being A Just Man And Not Willing, To Make Her A Public Example, Was Minded [Inclined To Think, In A Particular Way] To, Put Her Away Privily.
      But While He Thought [The Action, Or Process Of Pondering] On These Things, Behold The Angel Of The Lord Appeared Unto Him In A Dream, Saying Joseph [Is A Common Masculine Given Name, Derived From The Hebrew Yosef Meaning, He Will Add], Thou Son Of Dawid [Which Was Derived From Hebrew Meaning Beloved, Or Uncle], Fear Not To Take Unto Thee Miriam [Means Beloved, But As Well Sea Of Bitterness, Or Drop Of The Sea And Star Of The Sea] Thy Wife, For That Which Is Conceived [Create (An Embryo) By Fertilizing An Egg], In Her Is Of The Holy Spirit.
      And She Shall Bring Forth A Son, And Thou Shalt Call His Name Yesha'yahu [And It Revealed That Yahweh, Is Salvation], For He Shall Save His People From Their Sins.
      Now All This Was Done, That It Might Be Fulfilled [Satisfied, Contented, Or Pleased Because Of Fully Developing, Of One's Abilities], Which Was Spoken Of the Lord By The Prophet, Saying:
      Behold [See Or Observe Someone, Event, Circumstance, Or Something, Especially Of Remarkable Or Impressive, Nature], A Virgin Shall Be With Child And Shall Bring Forth A Son, And They Shall Call His Name Immanur'El, Which Being Interpreted [Explained] As, Yah Is, With Us!

  • @sairamsriram
    @sairamsriram Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Who wears a Fez in 2021?

    • @akhlaqali1139
      @akhlaqali1139 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      Who said clothing has a timeline.

    • @sairamsriram
      @sairamsriram Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      @@akhlaqali1139 - I assume you don't cover yourself with leaves and tiger skin.

    • @akhlaqali1139
      @akhlaqali1139 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      @@sairamsriram no we're not Europeans we are obliged to cover ourselves modestly..

    • @sairamsriram
      @sairamsriram Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      @@akhlaqali1139 - point is, clothing has changed and evolved over time

    • @akhlaqali1139
      @akhlaqali1139 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      @@sairamsriram agreed. But modern clothing doesn't necessarily equate to what the 'white European' wears (i.e tie or suit) there are other cultures with different clothing that should be worn and maintained (especially for us Muslims). Wearing the clothes of a European signifies mental colonisation. We as Muslims have our own identity be It the 1500s or 2000 years from now on.

  • @billyjesus5442
    @billyjesus5442 Pƙed 2 lety

    welcome to england my friends.

    • @billyjesus5442
      @billyjesus5442 Pƙed rokem

      @Kurdem welcome kurd, your people have fled to our lands for hundreds of years.

  • @karimkj01
    @karimkj01 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    Omar destroyed you hard

  • @mrlesta
    @mrlesta Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Uncle umar is from Egypt. He went to fight for USA against Russia in Afgahnaistan and now he came to live in UK and gets benefits. How van anyone lisen to anything he says about Islam.

    • @NajmaADini
      @NajmaADini Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Forget about where he currently lives, deal with his points. Let me guess u got nothing

    • @makkahcadey
      @makkahcadey Pƙed 2 lety +2

      What do you know what he did after he bought the “van”? How can you judge someone for their past. And if he fought the Russian then bloody well done to him. I’m sure you have much we can pick out. When you point a finger remember 4 are facing you oh child.

  • @gaalkacyo1634
    @gaalkacyo1634 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    As a muslim and somali how can you desert your muslim brother who is speaking according to Quran and Sunnah and agree with the extremist ignorant and foul mouthed old man that is speaking based on foolish desires? Educate yourselfs in your deen brothers and sisters so you dont get misguided by videos like these. Its an established fact in Islam that rebelling against a muslim ruler is HARAM so dont say otherwise unless you want to go against Islam.

  • @Lvrry416
    @Lvrry416 Pƙed rokem +1

    The Somali dude embarrassed all us Somalis and he’s a clown for the stuff he be saying.