Obey or Rebel If The leader is Injust Uncle Omar Vs Somali Brother || Speakers Corner
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May Allah protect uncle omar against these clowns.
May Allah free my somali people from the shackles of Najdism
I hope the Somali brother reads this message - brother youâre jaahil and it was cringeworthy watching you speak with such confidence in yourself and what youâre saying despite the fact it goes against the very basic foundations of our religion
I hope my brothers can please learn their lane and humble themselves and not speak on topics except that they have done the relevant work that qualifies you to speak about it
Eventhough he might have made slight mistakes his point and message is correct that itis indeed impermissible to rebel against muslim rulers according to Quran and Sunnah and the consenseus of scholars. Anyone who says its ok is an ignoramus and need to educate themselfs.
@@gaalkacyo1634 There's no 'might' he made mistakes.
@@kotime6543 I agree but my point still stands
@@gaalkacyo1634 what you know about gaalkacyo warya
@@depersonalised6074 Im from Gaalkacyo warya
The first brother needs to learn his religion before approaching Omar, he's all over the place.
@Karido Kutu The first brother Mahmoud.
The brother who said SiyÄd Barre was a kafir, literally contradicted himself and was immature. 1st of all I donât believe SiyÄd Barre said such, rather, it was more like him giving equal rights to men and women when rape increased and women were oppressed by men with culture. The men were given inheritance and the women were refused inheritance, that's why Siyad Barre said women have rights like men, he was changing the oppressive culture of women not having rights and religion not being used, infact he expanded the number of Masajids and destroyed many churches.
He might not have been a practising ruler but never against AllÄh directly like that, because that is a grave slander and from what we know itâs near impossible and I truly believe like that Arab man was saying that itâs FAKE NEWS and that he was using his logic because people do know what kind of ruler he was. You young Somalis who talk like that take from elders who are biased against SiyÄd Barre and I can guarantee Somalis love to add: for example 160 words into a single sentence and slander much. I advise you to learn from non-bias historians and learn about him as well as many of his speeches.
And the uncle is right that âSiyad B isnât here-so go back to Somaliaâ and â why donât you go backâ. Youâre killing the old man with your lack of respect by saying âKhuruj is Haramâ yet saying âIâm here because Siyad Barreâ it wasnât Siyad Barre that got you out you miskin it was KHURUJ at least if you learnt Khuruj you should have had a clear example of its effects as Somalis are found in anywhere and everywhere and destitute and poverty and ignominy. The humiliation that a country can not even rebuild or unit in 30+ years, never the world has seen it-like a ruin place!
Furthermore, even if someone does clear kufur and even so it still needs to be clarified shirk it 1st HAS TO be established they know what they are doing and if they have some ignorance in the matter.
How then dare you call SiyÄd Barre a kafir without knowing if he repented from it or not? HOW? Are you telling me AllÄh doesnât forgive if such statements are made doesnât AllÄh even forgive shirk before death? Were you there when SiyÄd Barre was dying?
It shows your ignorance because you are contradicting yourselves. You arguing,nearly giving the old uncle a heart attack to not call a Muslim a ka for yet you call Siyad B a kafir whilst not hearing it with your ears. And even if you heard it with your ears then you can call him a kafir but since time passed(even a second a person can take something back) then all you can say is âIM not sure if he repented from his statement/action before they diedâ. You couldnât say that. 1st it shows how indoctrination has got to you of tribalism and that you have no understanding of what you are arguing about on the case of Deen.
Siyaad Barre brought dignity and name back to Somalis. Yes he wasnât ruling by the shariah but stelaâs t we werenât in what we are. Shows you donât understand the wisdom behind the prohibition of Khuruj. AND no, itâs not what he did and yes, you donât know politics or what it takes for country and a nation to be raised. Why donât you build your country now, Siyad B died in 1995 WE ARE IN 2022! Shows you are all still asleep. Shame on you Somalis, the reason why Iâm here and the reason many stuff happened not only in my family BUT ALL Somali families is BECAUSE OF KHURUJ-open your eyes and look at the Somalis. Look at the people living in Somalia and tell me that was a good Khuruj it was worthy it. You are conditioned and still in jahiliyyah so come out of that qabil sheâll and use your intellect.
Wallahi you are right some Somalis are trying to do khuruj now
@@fieldmarshal7081 exactly, they are blinded by tribalism still, even after learning their Deen,as they come across knowing what khuruj supposedly means. All the suffering of the Somali people,particularly those who didn't flee the war and the millions of Muslim blood shed(not because of a ruler hut TRIBALISM and they deny it) still they think it was worth it. They who claim to follow the Messenger alayhi salatu wa salam and claim Salafiyah yet still entrenched with tribalism are ignorant conditioned liars. Khuruj is evil when it's must be done. I don't know what world they live in but they need to learn honesty and seek knowledge about what it takes to build a country, what are the rulings on a fasiq Muslim ruler, when khuruj is permissible as well as when it is permissible but not the right time. I wouldn't be living in the cold weather of Britain, and somali youngsters wouldn't be drug dealers,in gangs and full in prison whilst some even deported and thousands wouldn't die at sea, many losing the Deen and many becoming lgbt, on top of the millions their homes and lands taken by force and the wealth of the people eaten. Somalia is a grave yard of the Muslims blood-done by Muslims. And some still argue it was worth it. They are like a people who ruined their own house(their country) and think they did a good job at it. Imbeciles!
Don't defend siyaad Barre there are clear cut evidences of him describing the verses of inheritance in jest(arrogant manner) secondly he instituted communism which is clear cut kufr ideologies so don't try to side with nationalism over the Deen, fear Allah Siyaad Barre was never a good example for the Somali nation
@@yusufahmed1993 the deen is not to rebel so stop this khuruj khariji mentality.
@@fieldmarshal7081
Asalama alaykum:
You said stop this Khariji mentality.
So what is your advice what should we do with leaders who are against Sharia. Are they still leaders for you even if they are against Sharia just like Sead Bare who some Somalis worship although he was communist and denied some verses frone Quran and he become kafir.
You will become kafir even if you denie one letter off Quran.
So to say haq truth is that Khariji mentality đ
We Muslims frome Somalia know that people like Sead Bare was not Muslims and they killed our Scholars just becous they called people to worship only Allah.
May Allah make you understand my point people who are following Tawhid know what Im talking about.
Dont take what I said personal it is only advice and correction nothing else.
Asalama alaykum
peace
Let's be civil insha Allah
Uncle Omar be nice to THE brother behind you
The siyaad barbecued rule the Somalia was greatest country in Africa or the world self independe. Then siyaad had accident and some thing went wrong in 1980.s
Here is the beggining of the conversation
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⏠when that video stops....continues on this video your watching at - 4:40
So a tyrannical âMuslimâ leader = donât rebel.
A just non Muslim leader = Rebel.
Giver me a dumber comment than that I dare you đ đđ€Šđżââïž
Obey allah and his messenger but not the everyday writings and practices of the prophet
@@samoabokar5854 do you think youâve resolved this nonsense?
@@samoabokar5854 I'm pretty sure those practices and writings are sunnah
But I'm just guessing so
Allah knows best.
Us Hawiye love seeing isaaq and darood Argue about Siyad Barre đ We just chilling and ruling the government
Isaaq are not part of somalia.
đđđ Isaaq have their own country which is doing better then Somalia. Us Isaaqs love seeing hawiye and darood fight over a failed state. đđ€â€ Viva somaliland
@@jakobjama4612 uhh what?
Qabyaalad waa qurun
Maxaad ka faideysa inaad qabiil meesha soo gelisid Subhan Allah malaha maad fahmin nawduuca laga hadlaayo.
Qabiil ayaa madaxa kaa galay Waliba waad na ceebaysay hadal nucaaso kale ayaad ku soo qoreysa Ingriis .
Waxaa aad qortay dad ayaa akhrinaya frome all over the world.
Shame on you may Allah guide you and give health frome this sickness off qabyaalad.
Waan ku qasbanaaday inaan ku jawaabo waayo waxaas damiirku ma aqbali karo Muslim ahaan.
This topic is kinda heavy and shouldn't be discussed among laymen and why even approach uncle Omar to discuss this.
@Karido Kutu No, I don't
The topic is very clear cut though. According to Islam rebellion against muslim leader is haram. Simple. Those who say its permissible are in the wrong as that statement goes against Quran, Sunnah and the consenseus of muslim scholars.
@Karido Kutu Theres only one Islam. The somali guy is speaking according to what Islam actually says when he said rebellion is haram against muslim leader. The extremist old man is not speaking according to islam when he says rebellion against muslim leader is permissible. Get it? So what if muslims cant be close friends with non muslims?
@Karido Kutu One guy is right and the other is wrong theres ur answer. Secondly you can be kind to non muslim and be just to them and give them gifts, visit them and so on but only if they are not enemies of Islam. Meaning if they are enemies of Islam like forexample someone who kill muslim or support killing of muslim were not allowed to be kind to those people but non muslim who are kind to muslim we are kind to them
@@gaalkacyo1634 yeah you're right. A real example would be Libya. People went against Gaddafi and the entire country is lawless right now.
Why are Muslims fighting amongst themselves? Really sad to watch đą
You are head a skin đđđ
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Who wears a Fez in 2021?
Who said clothing has a timeline.
@@akhlaqali1139 - I assume you don't cover yourself with leaves and tiger skin.
@@sairamsriram no we're not Europeans we are obliged to cover ourselves modestly..
@@akhlaqali1139 - point is, clothing has changed and evolved over time
@@sairamsriram agreed. But modern clothing doesn't necessarily equate to what the 'white European' wears (i.e tie or suit) there are other cultures with different clothing that should be worn and maintained (especially for us Muslims). Wearing the clothes of a European signifies mental colonisation. We as Muslims have our own identity be It the 1500s or 2000 years from now on.
welcome to england my friends.
@Kurdem welcome kurd, your people have fled to our lands for hundreds of years.
Omar destroyed you hard
Uncle umar is from Egypt. He went to fight for USA against Russia in Afgahnaistan and now he came to live in UK and gets benefits. How van anyone lisen to anything he says about Islam.
Forget about where he currently lives, deal with his points. Let me guess u got nothing
What do you know what he did after he bought the âvanâ? How can you judge someone for their past. And if he fought the Russian then bloody well done to him. Iâm sure you have much we can pick out. When you point a finger remember 4 are facing you oh child.
As a muslim and somali how can you desert your muslim brother who is speaking according to Quran and Sunnah and agree with the extremist ignorant and foul mouthed old man that is speaking based on foolish desires? Educate yourselfs in your deen brothers and sisters so you dont get misguided by videos like these. Its an established fact in Islam that rebelling against a muslim ruler is HARAM so dont say otherwise unless you want to go against Islam.
The Somali dude embarrassed all us Somalis and heâs a clown for the stuff he be saying.