this video encapsulates ALL of learning in the internet age - it really takes a lot of discipline to even just hold yourself back from the "advanced levels" that are so easily available
Im just finishing a cert 3 course totally unrelated to my art. You are absolutely correct. I feel im ready to be a productive student just now, 6 months later. It has improved what content i actually consume because im approaching my self taught learning with focus. Last couple of months has been compositition mainly with values in addition. I have been learning productively and effectively. Thanks very much for confirming what ive just learnt. 😊
I can't tell you how much I appreciate this video. I was feeling so confused by watching various CZcams artist demos. I was actually regressing. I knew that there was something missing in my art journey. Your insight on this matter is spot on. It all makes so much sense to me now. Thank you!
I was also a high school English teacher (British Lit). I should have known by the way you explain everything. Kindred spirit! Thank you so much for all you do. This was particularly appreciated. Thank you!
My advice for learning is to always practice anything you want to stick after you learn it. With a lot of ‘tip’ videos especially, I think ‘I’ll keep that in mind’ but will I really? Utilizing it soon after will better help it be worked into your mind. Most people know this but some of us struggle to apply it if we have confidence in things like memorization skills etc. Don’t fall for it.
All you say applied to me until I discovered your video's ! I have always done a bit of pencil sketching but when I saw your amazing pen drawings, I knew that this is what I want to learn and where I want to be ! My efforts are improving all the time, and this is because I enjoy the relevant content and tons of information in every FREE video ! (have I mentioned how much I appreciate it that you offer these valuable lessons without charging even 1 dollar !? I don't do paypal etc so even a small fee is a no-go for me!) I am very happy to have found you ! You speak my "language" !!!😊
Another excellent video. People also learn in many different ways, some by watching, some through repetition, some by jumping in and doing. When I was doing my engineering qualifications I struggled with the maths, the teacher had a certain way of teaching which I struggled with. He just assumed everyone knew what he was talking about and the pace was at those who did understand. When challenged or asked to slow down and explain why he did certain things we were told we should know by now. I just managed to scrape through with help from work colleagues. The following year a different teacher, different methods and it all started to make sense. Learning to draw by teaching yourself is also about finding the right way for you. I am one who learns more from watch then having a go maybe with a lot of trial and error. When confronted with something in a drawing I an uncertain of, pick up a sketch book and do a trial run, maybe several times tweaking techniques until I get the look I want. Then I go back to the main piece and try and replicate it using what I had learnt. I have always wanted to draw, having that desire to do something also made the learning process easier. Learning should also be fun rather than a chore.
I can't believe I've only just been reccommended this video, it is so relevant to what I'm going through. I have struggled with improvement for such a long time and that is because I wasn't aware of how to learn in and of itself, part of learning art is learning how to educate yourself and how to use the tools in your toolbox, unfortunately I still struggle, I still think my art is awful and the conflicting art advice is so difficult to get around, there is also very little criticism you can get even if you join spaces that are predominantly for that, because even if your art is bad the consensus is to always be kind and that unfortunately clouds peoples judgment, even when asking for very harsh criticism I wasn't able to get very much out of it at all because it was sadly sugarcoated in order to not hurt my feelings, and if it's not this kind of situation it's just that there are not enough people who are skilled enough to give you the advice that is personalized for your current issues. A good teacher knows where their student is lacking, social groups don't have that kind of awareness and it's why people pay for the courses, because the feedback you get is personalized to your specific issues. When you were talking about the conflicting information and thinking something is wrong with you... I really felt that, that's what I always default to. I have autism and ADHD and so I always tend to think that either I am too stupid or not intelligent enough or normal enough to understand the material and I always felt like it was an issue within myself, I still have these thoughts and very often, because I can't find what I need or be a good enough judge of my own work to improve. Unfortunately for me, art is always going to be a consistent painful struggle, I will still go through it because I love art and it's innate. There are not enough resources for people with autism or ADHD who have these struggles that are clear and straightforward, the main things I struggle with are perspective and foreshortening, because the reference material and videos are almost never straightforward, even after 8 years I still have no concept of what 1 point, 2 point and 3 point mean. I still don't understand foreshortening.... because it's not explained well, it's not simplified in a way that people with these learning disabilities can understand, but it's my goal to understand them and simplify them beyond what is given so that I can go on to teaching others and helping them overcome those struggles that I have had to face.
Thanks for sharing your experience. A lot of perspective videos (most?) teach in a way that may be suitable for architecture, but not for artists having to draw it in real life environments, not boxes on flat ground. And they never tell you what they haven’t told you, so you think you should understand it all when you haven’t had it all explained. My perspective playlists may help with this. But draw what you love, and then it will always be a pleasurable experience 😀
This video is so very thoughtful and considerate! I have fallen into the trap of watching so many videos that probably don't relate to the skills I need to be developing because the artists are so good and/or their art is so extraordinary! After 3 years of binging various artists' videos, I have decided that strong drawing skills are what is going to help me create the kind of art I want to make. I am glad I found you!
You described my feelings perfectly. I started drawing very recently and at a very late age. No prior experience whatsoever, my school did not taught me anything as well. I found a tutorial series, aimed for complete beginners. Drawing straight lines, circles, boxex, building basic objects from boxes and so on. And when it was over - i was completely at loss what to do next. I searched was some more stuff, but it was too advance for me and only made me feel terrible and discouraged from proceeding further. Understading what i need to learn is hard. For now i stick mostly to redrawing other peoples art and trying to "learn to see", i click on a very few guides as they usually only make me confused and anxious. Marc Brunet was not helpful at all. He has entertaining videos that promises to teach you every thing in the world but he really only advertises his payed course.
Thank u so much! Your video appeared on my feed just when I was getting overwhelmed about creating a module for myself! This calmed me down and made me focus on my present journey. I’m so grateful!
Glad I could help! I hope you check out some of my other vids. I have a playlist on this sort of advice for the self taught artist if you’re interested 😀
Immensely affirming video. Thank you! I've been an artist since childhood yet only attended a semester of art school. I'm now a psychotherapist attending CZcams University since 2020 to improve my watercolor skills. I've stuck with qnd feel great wanted to learn my about drawing with pen as when I've tried recently it ruined my watercolors. I have only been watching your videos for the past two months. Extremely helpful in understanding watch my challenges have been in not only understand perspective but how to create depth with pen. Thank you Thank you, thank you. No more bold one dimensional black lines. I listen our vides before work, like now. I'm running late. Then layer I watch the full video again. 🙏🏽🌷🌿
Oh my! I have a BS in Psychology, and fortunately, I know how I learn. But I did not know where to find the resources until I found your videos! THANK YOU so much 😊
This advice is exactly what I needed because I just started my art journey and I subscribe to any channels that i see are related to art and followed so many artists and it is all so overwhelming like where to exactly start and what I want my end goal to be and all. thanks for this video very much😊
Absolutely. Once again such sage advise. I have spent almost 3 years searching out and critiquing art instruction videos in my quest to become a watercolour artist. So why do I feel so indebted to you for improving my art? Number 1: You give such sage advice about the process of learning to be a visual artist. Number 2: Your insight into teaching some baseline skills that every artist can benefit from such as perspective, effective mark making and values. I am constantly asking what have I learned from Stephen that will help me with this next step. Another of my favorite instructors has been essential in my understanding of composition and he is a oil painter. These things are essential no matter what the media so don't be afraid to go cross medias to learn the essentials. Thank you as always.❤
Wow. Now there’s a happy start to my day, reading this. Such kind words Heather, thank you. I’m so pleased you’ve found my videos so helpful in these ways. I’ve really only been drawing since mid 2018, but I painted in oils for 10 years before that - Australian trees and flowers. I was surprised when I began to draw how much things I had learnt through the painting were relevant to my drawing - especially line versus form, edges, creating effect, depth and values. I’m actually wanting to start watercolour - it teams up so well with drawing. Have all the stuff, just need to make time. The watercolour work of @stephanieabower inspires me. Worth a look on Instagram if you don’t know it. Thanks again, and all the best with your art.
@@stephentraversart Oh if you want to dive into watercolour one of my FAVORITE artists is Poppy Balser, a fellow Canadian. She is absolutely amazing! She paints plein air right through our 'difficult' weather conditions. Now that's dedication.😄 Peter Sheeler from the same area, Nova Scotia, does some really whimsical line and wash you might like. I look forward to seeing some pieces of yours.❤
I'm learning perspective and basic drawing skills from these videos 😁 Heather I'm in the process of learning composition as well. Which artist is this?
@@shilpaswamy3610 It feels strange promoting him on Stephens site ( I hope you don't mind Stephen) but it's Ian Roberts. He is on CZcams and has two excellent books out.
What you say was definitely true before the age of the internet. But now we have some great artists showing us how they paint, step by step. And classes depend very much on the teacher. If I went to a class given by the esteemed artist Ian Roberts I would come away thinking shape is everything in art, while mood and atmosphere are vital elements for me. Therefore I can seek out my teacher, the one who resonates with me and who I can learn from.
Yes, it can happen like this. But not everyone is in a position to assess if a given teacher is suitable for what they are wanting, or even be aware of the need and importance of it. Alerting people to this who might benefit from knowing it was my purpose. Thanks for adding your thoughts. 😀
Me too! What a terrible edit and sound that video has, just listening to a bit again. I’ll have to try and learn some new skills there and get some new gear I think. 🫣
Thanks Stephen, I'm listening to your back catalogue of videos to drown out the awful gym music - the ones like this are sooo useful to me. I am that person that collects tutorial videos like it's my job 😅. But after a year or so, I realise that I definitely need to stick to only a few artists otherwise I don't really get deeper than 5 tips for this or that. I thought I had found a course on drawing figures, but I think it's too advanced (even though they say it's for beginners), so I'm going back to the other course 😂 and sticking it out. Plus getting back to life drawing which actually was really helpful in getting rid of perfectionism. Thanks for these and keep doing them - with or without the mike 😂
I have a playlist on this sort of thing for the self taught artist. If you haven’t found it, it’s a good way to locate these videos of mine quickly. Glad they serve such a range of issues for you. 😆
I already have an online course with CLASS101. But it’s based on my 4x4 grid drawing method, not freehand. It’s not in my immediate plans to do any more, but could be further down the track. 😀
Very interesting, in a way you are right and wrong too. I trained as a architect studied Urban designed and worked as a landscape architect and an urban designer, now i have taken an interest in urban sketching so i watch your videos as they contains a lot of architectural content and other watercolour artists who i feel will help me get to what im seeking and this is a interesting challenge, Im critical of my work but it dosent pull me down. as i know i have improved in the last 6 months Most of my work is archetectural but i have improved my plant and portrait drawing skills too. Most importantly while a course may helo me in some aspects but need not necessarily give me what im looking for. In the end im confident in my direction, however what may help me is if someone like yourself looks at what im doing and suggest ways to improve. Thanks is you get to read and respond to my concerns.
It’s great that you’re pushing yourself into new directions Jalal, especially when you have such a strong foundation as architecture. I’m not completely sure what you are asking, but I do give individual critiquing sessions, but I have to charge for these. If this this is what you are interested in are you able to send me a DM on my Instagram account and I can give you the details.
I think there is a caveat to the suggestions in the video. If you are a beginner, it's hard to know your goals because you haven't even experimented with materials enough to know what you enjoy. I think beginners should feel freedom in experimentation and play to find out what they like to do in the first place.
Absolutely. But my caveat on the caveat is that beginners can fall into habits, such as copying other drawings, that they don't realise won't help them draw original drawings, which I think is more often the intention. Thanks for sharing
VERY true. In fact, that exact thing happened to me the first time I tried to learn drawing. I only did technical studies and didn't think about drawing from imagination. This works for what some artists want to do, but not for what I wanted. It made the whole experience very stale and tedious. Now, I do a 50/50 split between studies and personal projects and I couldn't be happier.
Be a self-taught teacher and then a self-taught artist. Then self-teach yourself to be a good student! Research, direct observation, emotional/motivational intelligence, and most of all common sense. Apply these to all three... and you've got a chance. No teacher is going to "fix you"!
Great so I am going all over the place and not getting perspective, composition and vanishing points at all! So now....I choose you . I am going to start fresh. Which playlist should a beginner watch? How long to keep watching and when to turn off the watching and practice on my own? To just draw over and over cubes/box's or try to print simple landscapes to practice perceptive? better to draw from real life ( like my living room couch or outside) or a printed photo? I end up watching a ton and not drawing so much because it does not seem to translate and I feel bad about iitI know it is a lot of questions !! THANK YOU
I have a playlist of ten perspective videos which I think covers a good range of perspectives topics. There are actually 12 on it. I would recommend watch each one through first, just concentrating on it. Then practice afterwards. 😀
@@stephentraversart I watched them all!! and some twice! Now I think I just need to sit and draw and try. ALthough when I try I get so frustrated by how it turns out as it looks all wrong. SOmething is not translating still.
I found this channel recently and everything just sort of clicked for me. in the parts of the Internet i frequent, there's a focus on character design and portraits but that just doesn't appeal to me. Your art has been a huge inspiration for me to focus my efforts on what i genuinely enjoy drawing, that being architecture, and the past few weeks have been the most fun ive ever had making art. thank you so much for all this amazing content!
I wish I found your videos years ago. I have wasted so much time on acrylic, watercolor and abstract painting clips. Just as you warn... Have bought lots of expensive artist supplies over the years.... just to copy other people's work. Now I only follow you😅😊
I enjoyed this video. Excellent points to consider. I have wondered what exactly self taught actually meant. I'm still not sure. What is the opposite of self taught?
@@stephentraversart ah...I understand. However, it seems to me that no matter the source, we always have a teacher moving us forward so self taught is not really an accurate descriptor. You have taught me things that I may never have stumbled upon on my own. Teachers can teach but learning is our own responsibility. But, we need teachers so we can learn. Thank you for your reply.
It's like this...I have a friend whose dad had a long-time dream of designing his own home when he retired. He had no formal education in architectural drawing, nor did he find this a problem. Eventually his dream became a (nightmare) reality. He somehow found a builder who agreed to build his truly awful house. He had a bad perspective and no real understanding of dimension. Once finished, I visited and was horrified. The house was all off. There was a teeny tiny rectangular kitchen that two people couldn't get past each other even by turning sideways. The living room, on the other hand, was enormous and looked like a warehouse. The dining room was stuck on to the enormous living room. He then had a wall on the far side of the living room with doors that went to a tiny bathroom and three bedrooms. No hallway. He was quite proud of this thing, thankfully. At least he didn't have to feel stupid. I felt second-hand embarrassment for him, though, and I also learned a second-hand lesson. The heart of the story is that you're not going to be Rembrandt or Michelangelo or Frank Lloyd Wright or any famous architect, artist, etc.without formal education in these fields. Almost all famous artists were classically trained. Just as phycisists require education, chemists have to go to years of college as well as mathematicians, doctors, etc. You won't get there by watching youtube artists.
I wouldn’t engage an architect who didn’t have professional qualifications, or a builder for that matter. But I hope there are some people who want to improve in their drawing who perhaps lack the opportunity or resources for any teaching, other than CZcams, who feel my videos can help them achieve that. 😀
this video encapsulates ALL of learning in the internet age - it really takes a lot of discipline to even just hold yourself back from the "advanced levels" that are so easily available
I’m so pleased this was helpful. Thanks. 😀
Im just finishing a cert 3 course totally unrelated to my art. You are absolutely correct. I feel im ready to be a productive student just now, 6 months later. It has improved what content i actually consume because im approaching my self taught learning with focus. Last couple of months has been compositition mainly with values in addition. I have been learning productively and effectively. Thanks very much for confirming what ive just learnt. 😊
Wonderful! Glad to give you confidence. 😀
I can't tell you how much I appreciate this video. I was feeling so confused by watching various CZcams artist demos. I was actually regressing. I knew that there was something missing in my art journey. Your insight on this matter is spot on. It all makes so much sense to me now. Thank you!
It’s always so satisfying to read comments like this Sherry. Really glad this video has encouraged your feelings about your art. Onwards!😀
I was also a high school English teacher (British Lit). I should have known by the way you explain everything. Kindred spirit! Thank you so much for all you do. This was particularly appreciated. Thank you!
My pleasure Mo. I haven’t taught since 1982, but CZcams has made me realise I never stopped being a teacher inside. Glad to have helped. 😀
My advice for learning is to always practice anything you want to stick after you learn it. With a lot of ‘tip’ videos especially, I think ‘I’ll keep that in mind’ but will I really? Utilizing it soon after will better help it be worked into your mind.
Most people know this but some of us struggle to apply it if we have confidence in things like memorization skills etc. Don’t fall for it.
Yep, in the end, we have to actually draw to improve. Other input counts for nothing if not applied.
All you say applied to me until I discovered your video's ! I have always done a bit of pencil sketching but when I saw your amazing pen drawings, I knew that this is what I want to learn and where I want to be ! My efforts are improving all the time, and this is because I enjoy the relevant content and tons of information in every FREE video ! (have I mentioned how much I appreciate it that you offer these valuable lessons without charging even 1 dollar !? I don't do paypal etc so even a small fee is a no-go for me!)
I am very happy to have found you ! You speak my "language" !!!😊
Very enoucraging to hear Karin. Just tell all your friends who draw about my channel and we'll call it even.
Another excellent video. People also learn in many different ways, some by watching, some through repetition, some by jumping in and doing. When I was doing my engineering qualifications I struggled with the maths, the teacher had a certain way of teaching which I struggled with. He just assumed everyone knew what he was talking about and the pace was at those who did understand. When challenged or asked to slow down and explain why he did certain things we were told we should know by now. I just managed to scrape through with help from work colleagues. The following year a different teacher, different methods and it all started to make sense.
Learning to draw by teaching yourself is also about finding the right way for you. I am one who learns more from watch then having a go maybe with a lot of trial and error. When confronted with something in a drawing I an uncertain of, pick up a sketch book and do a trial run, maybe several times tweaking techniques until I get the look I want. Then I go back to the main piece and try and replicate it using what I had learnt.
I have always wanted to draw, having that desire to do something also made the learning process easier. Learning should also be fun rather than a chore.
Thanks Paul. Yes, the learning experience is different for us all. Thanks for sharing your experience with us. All the best with your drawing. 😀
I can't believe I've only just been reccommended this video, it is so relevant to what I'm going through. I have struggled with improvement for such a long time and that is because I wasn't aware of how to learn in and of itself, part of learning art is learning how to educate yourself and how to use the tools in your toolbox, unfortunately I still struggle, I still think my art is awful and the conflicting art advice is so difficult to get around, there is also very little criticism you can get even if you join spaces that are predominantly for that, because even if your art is bad the consensus is to always be kind and that unfortunately clouds peoples judgment, even when asking for very harsh criticism I wasn't able to get very much out of it at all because it was sadly sugarcoated in order to not hurt my feelings, and if it's not this kind of situation it's just that there are not enough people who are skilled enough to give you the advice that is personalized for your current issues. A good teacher knows where their student is lacking, social groups don't have that kind of awareness and it's why people pay for the courses, because the feedback you get is personalized to your specific issues.
When you were talking about the conflicting information and thinking something is wrong with you... I really felt that, that's what I always default to. I have autism and ADHD and so I always tend to think that either I am too stupid or not intelligent enough or normal enough to understand the material and I always felt like it was an issue within myself, I still have these thoughts and very often, because I can't find what I need or be a good enough judge of my own work to improve.
Unfortunately for me, art is always going to be a consistent painful struggle, I will still go through it because I love art and it's innate. There are not enough resources for people with autism or ADHD who have these struggles that are clear and straightforward, the main things I struggle with are perspective and foreshortening, because the reference material and videos are almost never straightforward, even after 8 years I still have no concept of what 1 point, 2 point and 3 point mean. I still don't understand foreshortening.... because it's not explained well, it's not simplified in a way that people with these learning disabilities can understand, but it's my goal to understand them and simplify them beyond what is given so that I can go on to teaching others and helping them overcome those struggles that I have had to face.
Thanks for sharing your experience. A lot of perspective videos (most?) teach in a way that may be suitable for architecture, but not for artists having to draw it in real life environments, not boxes on flat ground. And they never tell you what they haven’t told you, so you think you should understand it all when you haven’t had it all explained. My perspective playlists may help with this. But draw what you love, and then it will always be a pleasurable experience 😀
This video is so very thoughtful and considerate! I have fallen into the trap of watching so many videos that probably don't relate to the skills I need to be developing because the artists are so good and/or their art is so extraordinary! After 3 years of binging various artists' videos, I have decided that strong drawing skills are what is going to help me create the kind of art I want to make. I am glad I found you!
Thanks for sharing your experience here. Hope it’s going well for you. 😀
You described my feelings perfectly. I started drawing very recently and at a very late age. No prior experience whatsoever, my school did not taught me anything as well. I found a tutorial series, aimed for complete beginners. Drawing straight lines, circles, boxex, building basic objects from boxes and so on. And when it was over - i was completely at loss what to do next. I searched was some more stuff, but it was too advance for me and only made me feel terrible and discouraged from proceeding further. Understading what i need to learn is hard. For now i stick mostly to redrawing other peoples art and trying to "learn to see", i click on a very few guides as they usually only make me confused and anxious.
Marc Brunet was not helpful at all. He has entertaining videos that promises to teach you every thing in the world but he really only advertises his payed course.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I hope you manage to find resources that match your needs. 😀
Thank u so much! Your video appeared on my feed just when I was getting overwhelmed about creating a module for myself! This calmed me down and made me focus on my present journey. I’m so grateful!
Glad I could help! I hope you check out some of my other vids. I have a playlist on this sort of advice for the self taught artist if you’re interested 😀
Immensely affirming video. Thank you! I've been an artist since childhood yet only attended a semester of art school. I'm now a psychotherapist attending CZcams University since 2020 to improve my watercolor skills. I've stuck with qnd feel great wanted to learn my about drawing with pen as when I've tried recently it ruined my watercolors.
I have only been watching your videos for the past two months. Extremely helpful in understanding watch my challenges have been in not only understand perspective but how to create depth with pen. Thank you Thank you, thank you. No more bold one dimensional black lines. I listen our vides before work, like now. I'm running late. Then layer I watch the full video again. 🙏🏽🌷🌿
It feels good that someone understands what I am going through😢. Thank you for creating this video ❤
It’s easy to assume others don’t struggle, but I’m sure we all have a lot in common in this area😀
As a want to be, beginning drawer, you are spot on with how to get started and who to follow.
Great. All the best as you start this amazing journey. 😀
Oh my! I have a BS in Psychology, and fortunately, I know how I learn. But I did not know where to find the resources until I found your videos! THANK YOU so much 😊
Wonderful! Welcome aboard my channel, and please tell any friends who also draw you may have.
Sooo helpful to everyone. I sort of figured this out, I thought, but the hard way. This is a priceless video. Thank you, STEPHEN!
Well that’s great to hear. Thanks. It’s not always clear how useful the information will be when I plan it out, so it’s helpful to hear. 😀
I totally appreciate you. I have learned so much.
So great to hear. All the best with it. 😀
This advice is exactly what I needed because I just started my art journey and I subscribe to any channels that i see are related to art and followed so many artists and it is all so overwhelming like where to exactly start and what I want my end goal to be and all. thanks for this video very much😊
Glad you found my channel. All the best with your drawing journey 😀
Well said! Brilliant!
Thanks you.
Absolutely. Once again such sage advise. I have spent almost 3 years searching out and critiquing art instruction videos in my quest to become a watercolour artist. So why do I feel so indebted to you for improving my art? Number 1: You give such sage advice about the process of learning to be a visual artist. Number 2: Your insight into teaching some baseline skills that every artist can benefit from such as perspective, effective mark making and values. I am constantly asking what have I learned from Stephen that will help me with this next step. Another of my favorite instructors has been essential in my understanding of composition and he is a oil painter. These things are essential no matter what the media so don't be afraid to go cross medias to learn the essentials. Thank you as always.❤
Wow. Now there’s a happy start to my day, reading this. Such kind words Heather, thank you. I’m so pleased you’ve found my videos so helpful in these ways. I’ve really only been drawing since mid 2018, but I painted in oils for 10 years before that - Australian trees and flowers. I was surprised when I began to draw how much things I had learnt through the painting were relevant to my drawing - especially line versus form, edges, creating effect, depth and values. I’m actually wanting to start watercolour - it teams up so well with drawing. Have all the stuff, just need to make time. The watercolour work of @stephanieabower inspires me. Worth a look on Instagram if you don’t know it. Thanks again, and all the best with your art.
@@stephentraversart Oh if you want to dive into watercolour one of my FAVORITE artists is Poppy Balser, a fellow Canadian. She is absolutely amazing! She paints plein air right through our 'difficult' weather conditions. Now that's dedication.😄 Peter Sheeler from the same area, Nova Scotia, does some really whimsical line and wash you might like. I look forward to seeing some pieces of yours.❤
I'm learning perspective and basic drawing skills from these videos 😁
Heather I'm in the process of learning composition as well. Which artist is this?
@@shilpaswamy3610 It feels strange promoting him on Stephens site ( I hope you don't mind Stephen) but it's Ian Roberts. He is on CZcams and has two excellent books out.
@@heatherh3457 thanks a lot 🙏
This is a very helpful vid for me, trying to figure out my style for a long time. This is gonna be a new start for me. Thank you so much..
Really pleased to hear this. All the best with the new start. 😀
Wow! So powerful and true. That explains a lot. Thank you for sharing.
Glad it made such sense to you. All the best with your drawing 😀
You're an excellent teacher! Thanks.
That’s kind of you to say Suzanne. Thanks 😀
What you say was definitely true before the age of the internet. But now we have some great artists showing us how they paint, step by step. And classes depend very much on the teacher. If I went to a class given by the esteemed artist Ian Roberts I would come away thinking shape is everything in art, while mood and atmosphere are vital elements for me. Therefore I can seek out my teacher, the one who resonates with me and who I can learn from.
Yes, it can happen like this. But not everyone is in a position to assess if a given teacher is suitable for what they are wanting, or even be aware of the need and importance of it. Alerting people to this who might benefit from knowing it was my purpose. Thanks for adding your thoughts. 😀
Loved the realization at 14:37 had me genuinely laughing
Me too! What a terrible edit and sound that video has, just listening to a bit again. I’ll have to try and learn some new skills there and get some new gear I think. 🫣
Thanks Stephen, I'm listening to your back catalogue of videos to drown out the awful gym music - the ones like this are sooo useful to me. I am that person that collects tutorial videos like it's my job 😅. But after a year or so, I realise that I definitely need to stick to only a few artists otherwise I don't really get deeper than 5 tips for this or that. I thought I had found a course on drawing figures, but I think it's too advanced (even though they say it's for beginners), so I'm going back to the other course 😂 and sticking it out. Plus getting back to life drawing which actually was really helpful in getting rid of perfectionism. Thanks for these and keep doing them - with or without the mike 😂
I have a playlist on this sort of thing for the self taught artist. If you haven’t found it, it’s a good way to locate these videos of mine quickly. Glad they serve such a range of issues for you. 😆
@@stephentraversart thank you Stephen. Woo plenty to watch! ☺️
Love your videos. Will you be coming out with an online course?
I already have an online course with CLASS101. But it’s based on my 4x4 grid drawing method, not freehand. It’s not in my immediate plans to do any more, but could be further down the track. 😀
Very interesting, in a way you are right and wrong too. I trained as a architect studied Urban designed and worked as a landscape architect and an urban designer, now i have taken an interest in urban sketching so i watch your videos as they contains a lot of architectural content and other watercolour artists who i feel will help me get to what im seeking and this is a interesting challenge, Im critical of my work but it dosent pull me down. as i know i have improved in the last 6 months Most of my work is archetectural but i have improved my plant and portrait drawing skills too.
Most importantly while a course may helo me in some aspects but need not necessarily give me what im looking for. In the end im confident in my direction, however what may help me is if someone like yourself looks at what im doing and suggest ways to improve.
Thanks is you get to read and respond to my concerns.
It’s great that you’re pushing yourself into new directions Jalal, especially when you have such a strong foundation as architecture. I’m not completely sure what you are asking, but I do give individual critiquing sessions, but I have to charge for these. If this this is what you are interested in are you able to send me a DM on my Instagram account and I can give you the details.
I think there is a caveat to the suggestions in the video. If you are a beginner, it's hard to know your goals because you haven't even experimented with materials enough to know what you enjoy. I think beginners should feel freedom in experimentation and play to find out what they like to do in the first place.
Absolutely. But my caveat on the caveat is that beginners can fall into habits, such as copying other drawings, that they don't realise won't help them draw original drawings, which I think is more often the intention. Thanks for sharing
VERY true. In fact, that exact thing happened to me the first time I tried to learn drawing. I only did technical studies and didn't think about drawing from imagination. This works for what some artists want to do, but not for what I wanted. It made the whole experience very stale and tedious. Now, I do a 50/50 split between studies and personal projects and I couldn't be happier.
Be a self-taught teacher and then a self-taught artist. Then self-teach yourself to be a good student! Research, direct observation, emotional/motivational intelligence, and most of all common sense. Apply these to all three... and you've got a chance. No teacher is going to "fix you"!
No, but if you’re not careful some teachers can mess you up. 😀
Great so I am going all over the place and not getting perspective, composition and vanishing points at all! So now....I choose you . I am going to start fresh. Which playlist should a beginner watch? How long to keep watching and when to turn off the watching and practice on my own? To just draw over and over cubes/box's or try to print simple landscapes to practice perceptive? better to draw from real life ( like my living room couch or outside) or a printed photo? I end up watching a ton and not drawing so much because it does not seem to translate and I feel bad about iitI know it is a lot of questions !! THANK YOU
I have a playlist of ten perspective videos which I think covers a good range of perspectives topics. There are actually 12 on it. I would recommend watch each one through first, just concentrating on it. Then practice afterwards. 😀
@@stephentraversart I watched them all!! and some twice! Now I think I just need to sit and draw and try. ALthough when I try I get so frustrated by how it turns out as it looks all wrong. SOmething is not translating still.
Just keep going? Try to find a course? Use reference image or go into real life and just keep going?
"ahh, this is rubbish, I'm hopeless"...how did You know?
Because we all know what it is to be human!😀
Thanks!
Glad it was helpful Justin. I appreciate the SuperThanks 😀
I found this channel recently and everything just sort of clicked for me. in the parts of the Internet i frequent, there's a focus on character design and portraits but that just doesn't appeal to me. Your art has been a huge inspiration for me to focus my efforts on what i genuinely enjoy drawing, that being architecture, and the past few weeks have been the most fun ive ever had making art. thank you so much for all this amazing content!
What a wonderful and satisfying comment to read Amelia. Thank you for sharing your experience here. I’m sure there’s even more fun ahead for you. 😀
I wish I found your videos years ago. I have wasted so much time on acrylic, watercolor and abstract painting clips. Just as you warn... Have bought lots of expensive artist supplies over the years.... just to copy other people's work. Now I only follow you😅😊
I’m honoured Lena, thank you. I hope a more focused approach proves very fruitful for your artistic improvement 😀
I enjoyed this video. Excellent points to consider. I have wondered what exactly self taught actually meant. I'm still not sure. What is the opposite of self taught?
The opposite is being formally trained through organised classes in some sort of course which steps through a curriculum 😀
@@stephentraversart ah...I understand. However, it seems to me that no matter the source, we always have a teacher moving us forward so self taught is not really an accurate descriptor. You have taught me things that I may never have stumbled upon on my own. Teachers can teach but learning is our own responsibility. But, we need teachers so we can learn. Thank you for your reply.
Thank you.
You’re Welcome. 😀
Thank you
My pleasure 😀
It's like this...I have a friend whose dad had a long-time dream of designing his own home when he retired. He had no formal education in architectural drawing, nor did he find this a problem. Eventually his dream became a (nightmare) reality. He somehow found a builder who agreed to build his truly awful house. He had a bad perspective and no real understanding of dimension. Once finished, I visited and was horrified. The house was all off. There was a teeny tiny rectangular kitchen that two people couldn't get past each other even by turning sideways. The living room, on the other hand, was enormous and looked like a warehouse. The dining room was stuck on to the enormous living room. He then had a wall on the far side of the living room with doors that went to a tiny bathroom and three bedrooms. No hallway. He was quite proud of this thing, thankfully. At least he didn't have to feel stupid. I felt second-hand embarrassment for him, though, and I also learned a second-hand lesson.
The heart of the story is that you're not going to be Rembrandt or Michelangelo or Frank Lloyd Wright or any famous architect, artist, etc.without formal education in these fields. Almost all famous artists were classically trained. Just as phycisists require education, chemists have to go to years of college as well as mathematicians, doctors, etc. You won't get there by watching youtube artists.
I wouldn’t engage an architect who didn’t have professional qualifications, or a builder for that matter. But I hope there are some people who want to improve in their drawing who perhaps lack the opportunity or resources for any teaching, other than CZcams, who feel my videos can help them achieve that. 😀
Love your videos. Will you be coming out with an online course?
I’ve answered the copy of this question 😀