why i stopped using goodnotes for notes @uchicago
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- I've been struggling with using goodnotes throughout second year at uchicago, and finally came to the conclusion that an ipad-only system was just not it for me. I take a lot of classes where being able to hand-write things are great (formulas for econ, highlighting certain areas in slides etc) - but all of my classes require some degree of large text (either from the textbook or online) or code. Since then, I've been searching for a better dual ipad-laptop system, and this is what I came up with!
I know there are a tremendous amount of aesthetic notetaking videos on youtube with goodnotes on ipad (truly beautiful), but for me practicality weighs more than pretty notes, so I'm going to retire goodnotes from my uchicago study routine, and make it more my go-to for teaching classes
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Well im a psychology major. All I do is mark up pdf, i take notes with hand, write papers and cry in the conrer.
literally my life haha
Same except not cry in the corner but I notetake by hand and only use IPad for markup
Crying in the corner is a vary important step during the study presses.
What do you use?
@@bondjam8 still trying to get the hand of that
I do more chemistry and biology stuff that doesn’t require typing, in fact typing hinders it, so for me GoodNotes is the best option for me
Do you think goodnotes is better than notability
@@me1yz definitely
How does chemistry and biology not need typing??
@@zimonslot when I’m drawing diagrams and writing around pictures I can’t exactly type easily
same here! I’m a biochemistry major and the drawing features on goodnotes work a lot better for me- I used onenote for a semester but I hated that I could never export to pdf easily since that is how all of our homework is submitted. I take my in-class notes on paper, but use digital for revising and homework assignments
As a history student, I fell in love with GoodNotes because it gave me the opportunity to take my notes like I used to on paper, but digitally-
At the same time, I definitely believe that what app you may want to use/need depends on your study method and course, so I absolutely see your point!
What jobs can you get from history tho? I'm just curious
@@casandrasantander3290 well, usually teaching or research jobs. I’m not really worrying about putting my degree to use in the near future, I studied it because I love history and I already tried to study for a better job in high school, and it was hell.
So I’m not too sure, guess we’ll find out!
@@casandrasantander3290 you can do archaeology, museum curator, forensic, it’s good for political careers as well because history can be used as an example. There are also teaching careers, I am hoping to become a University Lecturer in Egyptology. I’m not sure if you wanted this list, but I just thought in case you wanted to join us history nerds!
@@oliviabutler3084 I'm actually a history nerd lol. I love history but I'm not sure if I would take it or not bcoz I always search for a high paying majors
@@casandrasantander3290 high paying stuff dont always make ppl happy tho i hope u find out what works for u!
the setup of this video is extremely symmetrical I love it ahahha
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Ahh this is so reassuring! I'm buying an iPad soon but have been using onenote on my computer for my whole undergrad (life sciences major). I hadn't seen people talk about onenote on the iPad much so I wasn't sure if it was as good but here you are saying it is so thats great! I agree that the ability to switch from writing to typing is really helpful for these kinds of majors
Really glad you brought this up! I felt the same with Notability for a long time - I kept thinking I wasn't using it right. Sure, you could annotate slides, but beyond that the majority of my studying was still off my laptop. After all, 9/10 CZcamsrs were recommending it as a 'must have' for studying. Now I know it isn't just me :)
Thanks for summarizing everything in the first minute
To solve your paper size problem in Onenote go to "View" > "Paper size" > and from the dropdown where it says "auto" select "A4" This will ensure your page is sized to A4.
If you then go beneath it "Save current page as template" then all new pages you add in that section of that notebook will be A4 :)
Sadly that feature isn’t available on MacBooks
Of all the features they chose to strip away this probably one of the worst
@@Immanuelkantignooo omg 😳 so it’s only available on windows based pc?
I love notability, it’s organized, easy to use and also u can always switch between typing and using ur apple pen when you need to, I use it mainly to study from my lecture slides, note taking. But I never use it for assignments because I usually use grammarly and word on my laptop. love the hidden functions in it like hoe you can favorite brushes, copy and paste any shapes or things that u drew, search for certain words and the zooming function that makes writing on an ipad WAAY easier.
Ikr, I think notability is better and not many people use it
I love Notability the best too. I don’t use Grammarly, so I have no problem using it for assignments. Notability has been life changing during lectures.
I've also downloaded notability on my mac. Although it doesn't automatically sinc ALL the time, if I have lab worksheets that require both typing and annotating, the combination of MacBook and iPad is pretty awesome.
@@kellyye8515 I don’t have a mac laptop but I bet it feels so satisfying being able to switch between them 😭
@@sara6969 I got the apple magic keyboard with my iPad so I can easily switch between typing and drawing for my chem and bio notes it makes it soo much easier than having to have an iPad and MacBook
onenote user here! i've never had an issue with exporting notes; i usually just click the square with the arrow in the top right corner and then send copy of page and then email or whatever. the file that renders is usually a continuous flowing pdf without any breaks or anything. hope this helps :)
this set up is so beautiful ! 😭
A way to fix the awkward cut on onenote is to configure the page's lenght (which i believe you can only do if you get onenote 2019 or on microsoft 360), in that way you can where the page cuts :)
I've been using onenote like forever... like since 10 years ago
I like to write my journal, reflecting, stories, annotate pdf, literally everything because it was really easy to use, it saves automatically without me worrying if there is electricity off
I used to have problem with electricity off, blue screen and having tons of ms. Words and notepad without saving them, so onenote always been a life saver for me :')
Really helpful! Thank you :). I've been having issues lately with using goodnotes and notability, so I'll have a go at onenote!
I'm an IT student so most of my notes involve coding. I just discovered I can copy between my Mac and Ipad using Universal Clipboard. That should make copying code snippets and taking screenshots of video lectures really easy. I hope it doesn't become tedious.
Yes! This is what I use and it's a gamer changer. Thanks Apple Eco System 🤣
One note is definitely an amazing app. I fell in love with its user friendliness
Thank you for sharing your experience! I am almost finished my BA working towards my Masters. I recently got an ipad and tried to do away with OneNote because I have watched so many note taking videos. I have become so frustrated with it latley and I thought it was just me. This makes so much sense, I didn't realize specifically what I didnt like about goodnotes until now. I feel at peace now 😌
notion is great if you prefer typing but want to embed stuff. It's overwhelming at first but once you watch a few tutorials, you can do all sorts of organization systems.
This is a great video. After using goodnotes for a week and a half, I completely agree. I'm studying design and thought the visual side of it would be beneficial, but I struggle with the app otherwise! And, honestly, drawing in Goodnotes isn't it's strength. Thanks for putting this into words!
same! i actually thought about that too.
but i'll still opt for GN5 since my major is biology-related like you said. i hope onenote will update abt the pdf exporting, and goodnotes for its typing experience lol.
I use both Mac and iPad GoodNotes apps. Syncing is not super fast but works really well
I am a first time IPAD user studying econs in Uni. My laptop is not an apple product so having one note is a life saver. Thanks for the suggestion!
This video aside, I think ANOVA was my favorite part of my Statistics classes (I had Stats 1, Stats 2, and am now almost done with Stats 3) so it was cool to see it here. What I've been using on my laptop + pen tablet setup is Microsoft Whiteboard + Notion. I use Whiteboard to make mind maps and written exercises, and I export it into an image and add it to Notion. Anything that is theoretical info, I use toggles in Notion to have them on questions and answers. Notion is also cool with R code because you can type in R code easily.
After the points you made though, I might give OneNote another shot :)
yes!! lots of love for Notion (esp when i was taking compsci classes) -- will check out Microsoft whiteboard!
thankyou, i like that this video is mostly in dark mode, my eyes love it :'>
i never could decide between good notes and note something but i realized the free one note i have is perfect and i also have teams so it works out for teachers as well. you’re the only other person (after another person on yt) i’ve seen to say one note is the best
I mainly use notability for annotating slides and one note for in class note taking(typing). I have only used goodnotes for writing quick notes and quotes for essays and videos instead of actual note taking. I don’t even have actual notes anymore bc all I study off of is through the slides and textbooks which I usually have stick notes pasted on certain pages
Wow, I feel spoiled by this new upload schedule hehe. My own experience has taught me that hybrid systems tend to be better than purist ones, the added flexibility is really neat.
Trying my best for 2 uploads a week!! :)
The Onenote experience is way better with the microsoft surface tablets and surface pen since they were designed for one another, and with the pen I can also write directly in PowerPoint and Word files seamlessly which is really cool. I just think Onenote isn't as smooth with ipads
Just found you're channel by the way, and I'm binge watching your videos; you're inspiring a fellow 2nd year!
I switched to using onenote on a surface pro from an ipad and it made worlds of a difference!
Samsung's S Pen work nice too, because of their partnership with Microsoft, S Pen is now optimized for OneNote, Word and other apps, both on Windows 10 (Galaxy Book etc.) and android. :)
I hate OneNote and the whole microsoft suite on iPad. Although they can do the basics, but the total experience is just painful.
@@tommyprotrampx This is really good to knoe, thanks!
i use both onenote and goodnotes depending on the subject hahah, usually i type my notes in class cause i type faster, but when i revise i like using goodnotes to write/do working out for maths. but then again i'm only in high school lmao (year 11/igcses rn)
i love onenote!!!! syncing is heavenly. you dont even have to think abt it
PDF exporting is the biggest issue for me with Onenote.
Getting organized is rough, I have over 3 TB of music related files
Your channel is awesome and unique! Thanks for the help !
CZcams blessed me. I can't believe u were in my recommendation! I feel so spoiled!! Omg i love ur videos! The quality..!!
Thank you so much. I was looking for an app where I could type, write, and draw graphs and your recommendation for One note really helped me.
Hey Chloe really amazing video! I've had the cut-off situation happen with one note and it happens with my Mac computer but it doesn't happen with my computer that uses a Windows operating system. I've only had good experiences exporting my notes from OneNote on a Windows based computer.
You’re totally right about the typing, thankfully I don’t do much typing so it’s good enough for me
Nutrition Major here, good notes is EXTREMELY useful for chem and bio tbh! I absolutely love it! You draw the diagrams and write out definitions for terms, it’s great!
I'm a social science degree with an anthropology major and I have sworn by OneNote since year 11 high school, I then tried Goodnotes due to the hype on studytube about it and it's nothing special. It just doesn't compare to OneNote if you are doing anything except for handwriting notes. Totally agree with you and people needed to hear this!
Soo glad to found this! I’ve already got OneNote and wanted a review of good notes for college as I’m doing a photography class which has a lot of pdf & slides. ☺️🧡
I just realized It's going to be almost a year since I subscribed to your channel!!
I’m doing electrical engineering, which has a fair bit( more than one might expect) of coding but, GoodNotes in my opinion is still Great. However, thanks for the suggestion, I’ll definitely be trying OneNote out!😄
Makes sense ! As a Econ & Poli student, notability is perfect for me.
You can use the page template function to set a letter sized page so it prints out as a single page.
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I wish I had notes when I started med school, cause I kept losing all my paper notes, I just love the fact that I can keep all my notes in a certain problem
I actually onenote and samsung notes. Onenote it's more of my typing note app, it's always organized and clear so I can understand what I'm reading and goodnotes it's like a messy classbook with exercises and scratches.
for the issue of it cutting off a weird points use the page expander to create cut offs!
ohhh that's an interesting perspective... before i have my ipad i used to only use onenote, but i remember feeling very drained and had to constantly stop my study process. i think the many pretty notebook & stickers available to use on goodnote really help me to stay focus longer now, so maybe if you are more of a visual learner like me who get bored very easily, goodnote can help
Glad to have gotten to know that onenote will solve so many of my problems with goodnotes.
i've been using it for a few months and it's pretty good! the exporting function doesn't export in a full page + the drawing function doesn't automatically change back after you erase something = the two things that (kind of) are annoying, but overall it's definitely my go-to note-taking app!
@@asynchloe I will surely try it out! (I just discovered your channel about a week ago and i’ve been loving your content. Keep it up! Greetings from Madrid, Spain 🙌🏻🙌🏻)
For me one note is very glitchy it's difficult to switch between typing and writing
Nice video! It all depends on your major. I’m pre-law and Goodnotes is perfect for me because all I do read documents, annotate, and prepare for presentations. That’s it. However, if I stayed a nursing major I probably would’ve preferred notability.
that page view option really help me !
OneNote user here! I bought an android tablet (tab s5e) and they gifted me the original keyboard cover so I've been using OneNote to type down notes during or after lessons. It's amazing to view the lesson on one side and take notes at the same time on the other side with the split screen function. Only thing I don't like about OneNote is that it has an horizontal infinite page. I wish the horizontal was fix but you could still scroll vertically forever...
As an actuary, I did a lot of stats and maths. I used good notes for my predictive analytics exam and I loved it because ... I put a lot of annotations on my graphs with colours and I was much easier to understand.
I have one note for my job and honestly I don’t really like it . It so limited, you can’t really use a lot of colours and it’s quite hard to have neat notes just because you don’t really have any frame.
Honestly, I am using Notion right now for another exam and I am trying to convince my boss to use it at job because it’s much more convenient than one notes
wild to find another actuary in the comments! i'm still in my last year of college, but i will live and die by goodnotes + notion, trying to use onenote during my internship was terrible 😭
Thank you so much. I was on the fence of getting a ipad pro for drawing and university. One note is what I'm going to use now thank you.
What’s so funny was I went from One Note to Goodnotes! HOWEVER all my classes (a biology major) like never need typing. What made me switch was because One Note took so much space on my ipad and my computer.
quick tip! if you haven’t bought an ipad or macbook for college yet, consider a surface and a surface pen and keyboard. running one note on a surface with the pen allows for a similar drawing/writing aspect and easy typing. along with this you can type essays, watch netflix, take notes, etc... all on one device as it runs all regular laptop functions as well. i got a surface instead and i love it!
Surface doesn’t last long. Not worth the price. I see HP has some flexible laptop that comes with a touch screen and pen. But idk if it’s good anyways
@@farfara27 Haha ya, quick update. My surface died after a year. Just stopped working in class one day. I then bought an IPad and now use goodnotes. Much happier with the IPad btw. :)
I've had my surface since 2018, works súper fast as when I first got it.
@@abbyhorn3421 lol, how very expected. I don't like any hp products. I have an iPad Pro which I've had since 2019 and its awesome still, and I love using goodnotes
Watching this made me realize that i really wanted to have a samsung s7+ or s6 lite for digital note taking and use samsung notes since they have functions about the voice recordings and others.
I love Notability ! you can record your lectures as you’re annotating.
Sameeee onenote's boundary-less function is so annoying, if only would they just make it an option
I use both, onenote for notetaking and goodnotes to create summaries or do exercises.
I had the Same struggle, thank u so much
I totally agree with you. I´m studying electrical engineering and using OneNote is my way to go. While most students use an Ipad as a secondary device, i use a Surface Pro, because I need to run engineering programs like MatLab, CLion, LabView, LTSpice and many more programs. OneNote has the great capability to share and use Notes simultanously with your main device and also with other students. I think writing focused studies are better set with good notes, because it is optimized for that. But when you step into multi handling programs, having a device with a dedicated OS and having OneNote is the best for an optimized workflow
The thing i do with Goodnotes is, whenever i need to write large bodies of text, i make pdfs and then open with whatever program i am using. I have tried using onenote but it doesnt work for me. I do have a macbook tho, making it easier for documents cus theyre Icloud stored.
solid!! goodnotes is still very useful to me, i just don't use it as much anymore bc I have to do more coding / stats stuff now ;-; tbh wish I could use goodnotes more their writing experience is great!
For a law student,at least, good notes is the best
definitely!! it depends a lot on what formats you work with the most -- and i'll say that for my first year of college when it was mainly reading texts and annotating them, goodnotes was great -- it's just not the best with numbers aahh
For this law student it isn't. handwriting citations is a nightmare same for quotes. I wish they'd sort out the word-processing function.
Why? What does GN offer law students that Notability doesn’t? I would have thought the lecture recording/syncing would be very valuable for law students. No?
@@2triangles Well in my case my classes are 100% online so I don’t need to record anything and I have both apps but in terms of customisation I prefer GN
@@danaisnthere ah customization. Makes sense. Thanks for the reply. 😃
I am specifically using Goodnotes to make handwritten notes and not needing to carry around tons of books or printouts. Yes as an EE student i do quite a bit of coding. But the code lives inside project folders of the IDE on my laptop, only code samples or examples get mostly handwritten into goodnotes.
I don’t want to type my notes, for one, I’m to slow and it’s way less stressful. Some of my profs don’t even allow typed notes because it’s too distracting in small classes (~20-30 people). And with AirDrop and a Mac it’s no challenge at all to get a picture to goodnotes. You literally just have to command+c on the Mac and paste inside goodnotes, done.
hi not sure what you want to export to pdf specifically for, but if you aren't exporting for printing, i believe you can export to pdf via the app on the ipad and get a full pdf that doesn't have that weird cut-off issue that you get when you export on a laptop. The pdf will just be a full custom-size page that fits everything. hope that helps someone!
Seconding this! I don’t know why the export function doesn’t work on the Macbook.
I use notability (the other big note taking app on the ipad), because we have a loooootttt of slides every day.
For two courses (out of 12+ courses) I use my PC (Notion or OneNote).
so far in my course, biomed science, it’s very handy for me to hand write notes. i love handwriting normally, but i also like the ability to have the the powerpoint on the same device at the same time
In my courses (I study Geography) we get all the powerpoint files (and in some courses even a Summary) where most information we need is on. So the only thing I need to do, is mark some things, highlight some slides and write some additional things on the Slides and for that GoodNotes is still the best I‘ve tried.
The only thing I‘m not that happy with, are the geometry features. Maybe a ruler, more options to edit the lines after they were created and the possibility to create lines that are curved in multiple directions would be nice.
Thank you for this video! I use Onenotes and was considering to switch to goodnotes /another note taking app because I was unable to figure out where the margins were on OneNote to prevent cut off when printing. I use the print preview however the amount of notes I have it's not feasible.
Still looking for a printing solution for onenote. Until then I trying other digital note taker.
So what’s the best note taking app for pdf books, taking notes from those books, drawing diagrams, incorporating tables, organizing per topic, highlighting articles. Straight to the point app. Thanks for the help.
im using both apps, goodnotes for my tutorials/exercises and onenote for my lecture slides
hey Chloe. first of all Love u. second can please show us how you use ur one note in-depth for difference classes? as an "going to be freshmen I am dying to k. 🥺
Yes!!! I’m thinking of doing a “how I study” vid after midterms hehe
@@asynchloe love how we r both alive 3:43am in the morning haha
Psychology major here but on a pre-med track, which means that I have a mixture of typing many essays (psychology) and taking many science notes (physics, biology, etc.). It depends on the class. I HAVE to use my iPad because I have a lot of PowerPoint slides or non-PowerPoint slides that I have to take notes on; then, I use my MacBook or Microsoft Surface to type my essays. So, I just say that it depends on what you're studying.
I plan to use a mixture of two but we shall see when I do start in Fall 2021 since I like drawing my notes but also type.
thanks for the tip!
The fact that you are Indonesian Singapore is interesting!
Hi from indonesian friend
Since watching the first time I’ve been using OneNote for a year… and now I’m changing to GoodNotes. OneNote worked very well for a while but the long loading time both in my iPad and computer was really annoying, for example just opening OneNote on my computer was really slow and the synchronisation would not be immediate and sometimes would not work at all. Also, when marking big sections of notes it would be very slow at loading which just gets on my nerves. But the thing that made me switch was when I tried to save my notes to PDFs and 1) it was very slow 2) the quality was bad and 3) it ruined one of my notebooks. I cannot get in to those notes and I’m so scared of it happening again. So GoodNotes it is! For context I mainly use handwritten notes and annotations.
i love using one note!! i just have some issues with pdf annotation, how do you guys work with that?
I actually type my notes on a word file first and then I transfer them on my good notes app for annotation. The app is good for math + sciences (for me). I do not like to write on a notebook because I have the tendency to dislike my writing that I hyper fixate on it which ends up in a lot of time wasted.
This is so helpful!
I used last year (im studying mechanical engineering) OneNote, i had some dislikes about the app, i couldn't get used to the infinite workspace, i do lots of handwriting, and in OneNote it didn't feel good for me, or at least not as good as in goodnotes. I Started this year with goodnotes, and i am used to change from keyboard to handwriting fast and the notes are pretty as hell. Also, in goodnotes for being an standard size pages, and having better handwriting, i will be selling my notes
For computer science it’s different from most, it requires a lot of typing so I see your point.
Please in Engineering I found OneNote super useful specially syncing-whise and exporting wise. The ability of exporting to PDF all my notes just by sections/subsections is so useful
i totally agree, i only use goodnotes to annotate econ slides since every single class had like 40 lecture slides (primarily why i got an ipad in the first place) or to write my econ and math psets. The only formally handwritten notes I use goodnotes for is math since my professors still use the chalkboard, and i cant type math very quickly. But other than that, onenotes is perfect for creating my study guides for econ. I can type really quickly and rearrange typed text in different boxes, saving me hand muscle pain and time, as well as allowing me to command+F any specific economics concepts or equations I need to find.
I having been using a VM for coding, making graphs and and so on. My ipad became pretty much a cpu or a note taking device, wherever I choose. But you are right. I think goodnotes hasn’t some basic features that booms out. For note taking I have chosen nebo and for reading I use notability. Goodnotes is just there and I have no use for it
Heh if u don't mind, what is VM?
@@saychanpheng4343 is stands for Virtual Machine. You can virtually run a computer on you Ipad and use programs like R or Phyton for coding. If you’re interested you should check google cloud or azure.
OneNote is very good! Especially when syncing up my notes with my PC, which I tend to do anyways. I wouldn't say the writing tools are as good as GoodNotes, but it gets the job done and I type my notes anyways
you are like the definition of academia
This is a really useful and informative video! I just started a physics course and already I’m noticing issues with GoodNotes. The typing functionality is so finicky and hard to align nicely and it’s going to be hard for me to incorporate my lab work and coding.
I got GoodNotes for my GCSE courses, a dream for diagrams, a nightmare for typing.
I love the background & topic as well :)
Yes one note was amazing for me for 9 months, until it literally stopped synching on my ipad...even re-signing in, closing-opening notebooks wouldnt even load anything on the ipad. So I lost all my ipad notes, but could still access them on my PC. If it wasnt for this, I would still use Onenote, so guys, beware of the huge synching issues that may happen after months when you least expect it.
Edit: lol just re signed in and I could now open all on the ipad. There are some annoying synching issues that can happen on this app for no reason though.
lol every time I want to switch to good notes, a video pops up and says "yeah stick to your onenote babe😌 "
ive been using onenote since goodnotes isnt compatible with my tablet. although not as trendy but i feel it does the job of saving paper yet being able to see my notes digitally
Chloe do you have a hard case on your MacBook? Do you recommend? 😅
Not sure if Apple products have this, but with one note on Windows there's two different versions. One note for Windows 10 is the app version with only infinite canvas. If you want to do a set page size, so it doesn't cut off.. you can go into the start menu and look for a program labeled as one note (without the for Windows 10). Then you can set page size.
Onenote is basicallya a multimedia annotation app. You can attach any media files to your note, so you can, for example, record a whole lecture and write notes at the same time.
Can also record lecture and take notes simultaneously in GoodNotes 5
Loveddddd one notes I could never get the hang of good notes. Good notes you are also restricted to a standard page. One notes you are given a broad page it’s like a huge white board where you can zoom in & out
Wait, so Onenote can’t export as PDFs the PDFs we’ve imported and annotated in it? Which Windows software can?