The Fall Of The Minivan
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- čas přidán 17. 09. 2019
- The minivan once helped save Chrysler from total ruin in the 1980s, but now it's relegated to a small portion of the automotive market despite fitting most customers' desires in a car. Meanwhile, buyers scoop up sport utility vehicles and crossovers at an increasing rate. Automakers are now faced with the choice of whether they ought to keep selling these multi-purpose vehicles or manufacture more popular and profitable models.
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The Fall Of The Minivan
The minivan didn't die. SUVs started turning into minivans. I mean, just look at them.
You're spot on. SUVs went from body on frame truck conversions to more or less minivans with higher clearance and awd.
Very correct!
Tbh, most "SUVs" shouldnt be classified as a SUV.
just so true i completely agree with your statement
Yaa true that.. look at Pilot it definitely a better looking Minivan and Odyssey
The minivan is the only vehicle where an adult can ride comfortably in the 3rd row.
You must have never sat In the 3rd row of a Vw Atlas
Absolutely amazing how you might fit 12 individuals....Big family huh?
Answering the narrator's question:
Having only 1 child, no. Fiesta liftback is plenty.
Kien Tran i also sat in the 3rd row of a highlander and it really gave me cramps
Not at comfortable as a suburban
When you take your whole family full of adults for a long road trip, minivan is the top choice.
Noooo suv all day long!
Much more comfortable and fits sooo much! Plus AWD!
@@daisyflores1736 minivan fits far more
Daisy Flores I have sat in both a minivan and an SUV, and the minivan is generally more confortable. Also AWD isn’t everything, tires are important too.
Must have never ridden in a ford excursion
You guys under estimate Sedans, & wagons. Most SUV's don't offer much more space & comfort then a mid or full sized sedan. Also unless you plan on going off roading all you need if front wheel drive, even for moderate off roading the clearance on a sedan is fine.
Though the mini van is king I'll admit. Though you can travel with any car, I've got a Hyundai Elantra mid sized sedan so nothing to brag about, but it hasn't failed me on any trips so far.
Toyota Sienna AWD anyone? Cmon. This minivan is more practical than most SUVs out there
2013 Honda Odyssey EX-L man
2013 Toyota Sienna XLE AWD with entertainment package. Bought it used last year and sold my CR-V coz my boys got too big.
Jnguyen93 Gas Guzzler. 16 city 22 highway is comparable to a 1980’s Oldsmobile Station Wagon with a carbureted V8 even after adjusting for the revised fuel economy testing procedure. Nearly all 7-8 seat SUVs with all wheel drive use substantially less fuel. If Toyota revised the design and made it less of a gas guzzler, it would be different, but alas, they don’t seem to want to do so.
04 Toyota sienna AWD limited XLE. Got it for $500. Currently sitting at 230k miles
Yup relative had one. She also have 2 small kids. In fact the Sienna is such a hot sale inventory is always out.
Irony is, majority of SUVs sold today aren't neither 'sport' or 'utility' any more than the minivan...
And they get crummy mileage.
Front wheels driven suvs are minivans with a brand. You are right. Suvs are 4x4 offroad vihicles. Those with rear wheels driven are station wagons with tall roofs.
Some of those rear wheel drive suvs are scary, not just when you insure them, but when you drive them. My stepmom had one for several years and it was kept in snow mode, or it would be super dangerous in rainy weather especially.
Get japanese brand SUV, people still use it as off-road vehicle in indonesia
@@drmodestoesq I mean the highlander hybrid gets very good gas mileage and even just the basic gas model gets great mileage
The minivan is alive and well in Utah.. its called the MAV.. Mormon Assault Vehicle
Lmao
22640cal Makes sense to me,
People in Utah have biggest families in a country.
*The Mormon assualt van works at peak proformance in Deseret terrain* 😜
JWs love them too
My dad still swears by his Minivan and we're not kids anymore. He loves removing the seats and hauling junk in it.
My grandfather bought a minivan and only needs two seats
I'm that guy. I don't want an SUV because it can't haul drywall or plywood. I don't want a truck because I need to haul my kids around. I don't want a car because I often want to take my kids to the park with their bikes. But you know what can do all of that and cost less than most other vehicles? My 2006 Town and Country. An the dang thing gets 20 MPG and out accelerates my little Honda Fit (which typically gets around 30 MPG in town).
I don't think minivans will ever die off indefinitely. They will always have a niche market. You just can't carry 7 full grown adults and some bags in a 3-row crossover like you can in a minivan. I don't care what anyone says. Your other option is a Chevy Tahoe and those SUVs are just absurdly expensive and impractical to own. If nothing, the minivan will remain a favorite for families with 4 or more kids, people that use them as small practical work vans, livery companies, and car rental companies. It also still has popularity in Canada. For the foreseeable future, I don't see Chrysler, Toyota, or Honda axing the minivan. All the other brands stopped making minivans because they were never as good at making them as these three to begin with.
Agreed.
I have one and I can’t replace it because to have similar interior capacity (I can carry an uncut sheet of plywood inside-which I do with some regularity) id need to step up to a $50k+ full size SUV.
The most underrated feature of the minivan is how easy it is to get in and out. As in not stepping up or down very much.
Next on CNBC: The Rise and Fall of the Soccer Mom.
Now that’s never gonna happen. Too many Karen’s still in the world
They’ve been replaced by CoachEllens with their bohemian-chic floppy hats and farmers market selfies
criznitty lmao
Maybe it would be: The Rise and Rise Again of the Tiger Mom
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No matter how bad it fails i would gladly accept one for free
A freebie? Oh, yes, please.
Oh, and... D'you mind if I add a few options?
😂😂😂 #metoo
It not cheap to run.. Nor had a value in resale.. Take up space.
campkira you must’ve had a Chrysler minivan
@Mr. X no. You should give it to me x
I love minivans. I don’t care how they look, they’re such practical cars. My husband used to hate them... Then we rented one once and now he wants his own.
I got hooked when I rented one in Florida to move my aunt and her cat back north the stow n go and highway ride make it a great cruiser to have in the driveway
why almost in the U.S hate minivans. I mean look carefully, they are a best choice for practicality, efficiency, and safety but people are just turning a blind eye to them for not being stylish........
I'm a millennial and no kids; I own a minivan... Odyssey. I love it! insurance is low. I turned it into my own campervan. #vanlife.
I've known a few people who live alone, don't carry cargo, and drive minivans.
I can't figure that out.
@@1L6E6VHF I have no wife or kids and drive a Toyota Sienna Minivan.
1L6E6VHF They’re comfortable. I knew a football player in college who had one. He was a 6’ 6” 320 pound dude and he loved it. Tons of room.
Respect brother
@@1L6E6VHF lmao sounds like psychopaths who use it to move bodies
Why was I weirdly rooting for the Minivan like it was some underdog in a emotional sports movie.
Most practical vehicle on the market; comfortable on long trips, and the best transportation if you have elderly parents.
2nd it being best transport for elderly parents. I took my parents on a road trip every year and we rented minivans every time, except once. Only once, because they demanded a minivan after that trip. Lol.
Pay one of the Kardashians to drive one and they’ll be selling out in no time.
Right sheep at our finest smh
I can nearly hear the incessant bleating from her followers if that were to happen.
They’d be driving the Mercedes sprinter vans not no Honda Odyssey or chrysler Pacifica
That's a lie. The opposite would happen. Like Segways. They were cool until rent a cops started using them.
Make sure theres explosives inside
I'm a single guy with no kids. I rode in the friend of mine's Minivan and I was shocked how practical it is for pretty much everything.
Yes I got the same feelings.☺️
I towed a boat with the odyssey, moved houses with the odyssey, rode the entire group from city to city, minivans are arguably the MOST practical vehicles
This is the longest minivan ad I have ever watched.
Is it really an advert if it’s not pointing out a specific and contemporary model? I don’t exactly think they’re trying to advertise the 1980’s Plymouth Voyager.
Did you ever hear a joke
1980s: "I'm not going to buy a station wagon, that's what my parents drove. Uncool."
1990s: “I'm not going to get a minivan, that's what my parents drove. Uncool."
2020s: "I'm not going to get an SUV, that's what my parents drove. Uncool."
In conclusion, only buy sedans, hatchbacks, and coupes, like a classic wardrobe - they are always in fashion
2030s: "I'm not going to get a electric autonomous pod, that's what my parents drove. Uncool."
This sums it up pretty accurately.
fun fact, the current generation coming up to car buying age is already straying away from the truck/SUV brand and instead are more interested in Sedans, with the used sedan market being quite hot right now
Justin Noker Because all the used SUVs are gone lmao
I remember growing up in the 90s my dad bought our family our first mini van, I believe it was a Nissan. As kids, we thought he was so cool and we couldn't wait for him to drop us off at school so the other kids could see our new car............ Good memories
Those seats folding down allows me to move furniture, refrigerators, ikea wardrobes.... its such a lifesaver.
In China minivans are called "Buisness Cars" and they're popular with well... business people.
No one cares about copy cat China
@@avdeshalvaraz7721 Lol literally every brand cares about China and you as a consumer should too since everything comes from China and China is one of the most essentials l markets
Rowlet KR actually I don’t care about that shithole either. Then again I’m not a company that has to grovel to a totalitarian government to have access to their slaves (Er. Consumers)
That's a trend across Asia though, started in Japan and then it spread to other countries like China and the Philippines. They have the leg room of a luxury car at half the price.
You know, in Europe, the minivan (or MPV) segment has also suffered as well just in the US, and even some were turned into or replaced by SUVs and crossovers. However, unlike the US, other minivans were replaced by passenger MPV variants of already existing commercial vehicles like Mercedes V-Class and Citroën Spacetourer.
minivans are awesome. They are very practical and very spacious. I love the sliding doors. I don't have to worry about my kid denting anyone's vehicle.
And folding seats!
Minivans aren’t that spacious, you have to duck to get to a cramped seat, full-sized SUV’s and Yank Tanks with bench seats are where it’s at.
@@MrOiram46 try the Dodge grand Caravan and compare the space with Toyota Highlander or Ford Explorer and tell me which have more space on the trunks and the seats. When people travel long distance more comfortable.
Héctor Díaz Those are small, try Toyota Sequoia and Ford Excursion
@@MrOiram46 those are two big and price it's a lot different than the normal Jeep or minivan
I want my 1997 Toyota Pevia back! Drove so smoothly and was a great on mileage!
Sadly my husband was in an accident and it got totaled. I'm glad he's alive just mourning my vehicle.
Those Vans are amazing. Especially if you have the AWD supercharged model. It's a mid engined supercharged AWD minivan.
I love previas
Those things are hideous. But they get the job done.
Aw. I'm sorry to hear that loss of your minivan. At least your husband is still alive and strong. I hope you get a good minivan like your old one again. 💕 Matty.
I love my minivan because of it's comfort, room, practicality, and decent gas mileage.
I’m a dad who’s just about to have his fourth child. FML if they quit making minivans. I love my friggen minivan.
which kind do you have?
Alan Taylor Buy an explorer or another SUV. My parents had the old school boxy 90’s minivan (there were 4 of us kids until my little sister was born in 2000) and so by 2003 my parents had an explorer. They thought the explorer was a lot better.
Now we’re all grown up. My parents have an SUV Audi Q5 and a BMW 4 series. They have upgraded in terms of looks these days.
@@deanwinchester3356 explorer is not better for a family over a minivan, that's laughable
How about a giant SUV?
How about a kia carnival 2021?
If you care SO much about your image driving a Minivan the problem is DEFINITELY not the minivan.
Exactly! Tye problem is the god damit pretention! Superficial people
Well said!👏🏻👏🏻
People who worry about what others think about them would be shocked to know how seldom people actually do think about them.
@@mountaincam3520 agree. Cars are made for the people to like them. Not for the others for what they think something of the others. If I like my car, I don't care what others think, I like it and that's all that matters
stick it in your station wagon....your Volvo station wagon! jk. Point well made.
I once drove my mom's minivan and I was hooked. I don't have kids, but the ride is smooth the amount of space to haul things is really nice. If minivans were cheap, I would get one.
Buy used, there's a ton out there.
They are cheap
they are cheap, look at the prices of everything else
They are relatively inexpensive, there are cheaper sedans and coupes, but minivans are less expensive than any real SUV aka, a Tahoe or larger or a full size pickup truck.
I’m surprised millennials weren’t blamed on this
We don't have jobs, so we don't have money so don't have kids, we won't buy minivans, puff, this is our fault.
*for
You're ignorant.
Y?
I’m ignorant for not having perfect grammar on CZcams? Arrest me now🙃
Well, technically they're at fault indirectly, millennials have less kids (less than replacement level) so buying a minivan makes little sense if you don't have big family, though the SUV are somehow popular so idk.
Never make a decision based on what some else thinks. Those are wise people
5 years owning a minivan. Struggled making the purchase at first, but DAMN IT....this thing does it all!
1) 8 hour drive to the beach. Fully loaded with kids, dog, luggage and bikes with plenty of room left....no problem.
2) Moving a friend....washer, dryer and other boxes in one trip. Boom!
3) Run to Home Depot...10 sheets of plywood, couple of 2x4s and other hardware. Yeah...It's got you covered.
4) Towing a small utility trailer filled with yard debris (limbs, leaves and grass clippings). Just another day on the job.
5) Rolling up to the club with onlookers gazing with envy......never gonna happen. Then again, I don't club anymore.
Comes down to insecurities in their own self image. Hell, I still fight with that minivan vibe. I've been looking at trucks to replace it. I gave up because the van does everything I need and more than the truck. I don't need towing capacity. I lose interior space and I can't just throw large items in the back with out tie downs on the short beds.
Own it with confidence like these guys!! (czcams.com/video/DOKuSQIJlog/video.html) Gangsta style.
I HATE YOU MINIVAN!!!!!!!!!
PS - I love you.
Agree, I've had a minivan van for a while. I bought an SUV but have the minivan. :)
While loading sheetrock in my minivan, a F-150 pulled up next to me to do the same. He had the standard 6-1/2' bed so he had to leave his tailgate open to accommodate the 8' load. I asked myself what was the disadvantage to owing a minivan? The answer is that my van had a load capacity capable of handling "only" 30 sheets. Oh, and by the way, it was raining.
@@frankhoward7645 Exactly. Have to consider weather when hauling. Do I throw a tarp on or not? I bought some simple airbags for my van ($100). When I know I'm hauling a heavy load or going on vacation with tons of stuff, I add some extra PSI for the rear and it doesn't even squat. Drives much better. If I was going to be towing or hauling extremely heavy items, then I would need a truck, but right now, the van does everything I need.
The only thing a truck is better at is if you’re hauling a trailer that’s more than 7,000 pounds, hauling a true 1500 pounds of materials in the box, or really going off road.
If you’re just towing a 17 foot boat, or hauling groceries and knick knacks, or driving on dirt roads an minivan is just fine. Sure you don’t want that firewood or manure in your minivan, but that’s what a utility trailer is for.
Brian Moeller i am a single man , but i would still buy a minivan , itls great to take your friends around too
Thankfully I don’t suffer from the illness of worrying what people think about me. So I buy what makes me happy. Life is good.
Minivans are very spacious and practical to many families. People should buy them based on value and utility, not on other people’s perceptions.
I’m ready for the “Millennials killed the mini-van” comments
I’ve looked at a few comments. Haven’t seen it from anyone but you.
But glad your ready
The society killed it because young people can't afford many kids.
pax und peace Not really, It’s just the natural s - shaped population growth curve found in all species that reach carrying capacity.
@@michaelcondrey3510 no. The capacity rate is nowhere near.
Hayy ... Nice try. 🤭
Just bought a mini van with sliding doors, best investment for 2019.
yawdiejin which did you buy? I’m look at Honda, Kia, Toyota...... Hate SUVs. Do not want to climb up into a car. Or repel down.
Toyota sienna has All wheel drive now
What kind of minivan
@@tortangtalong1 in fact Sienna has had AWD option since 2003.
Same here i bought the Dodge caravan its an amazing reliable Van dron 18 hrs to and back 4 times no issues transporting kitchen cabinets and granite no issues and sto and go which the others don't have cant be beat
I fought tooth and nail against buying our mini van with my husband cause it signified death to my youth...now I love it. We have 3 kids so we need it.
The only thing that scared me away from Honda Odyssey in 2019 was its price.
Kien Tran, some people say Honda’s engine is better than Toyota but you are right, Toyota is long lasting.
Paul Lunsford are those model years reliable?
Stay away from Chrysler products
Transmissions fail they come from FIAT which stands for Fix It Again Tony
@@ralphabreu5022 that's hilarious
Cheaper than a full size suv
Minivans are great for road trips
So is a Ford Excursion 🤷🏼♂️
-Can Ameri- Too big for that and also FORD FLEX.
Francis Litan - right. You can fit 1 to 2 more people in there than a Flex.
You're right my family use one a 2004 Toyota Sienna made in Indiana to cross the border at Niagara Falls towards Scarborough province of Ontario🇨🇦 2009
-Can Ameri- enjoy paying at the pump
Built-in vacuum cleaner? THAT'S GENIUS.
That's stupid
People: I own a Tahoe and struggle to get anything in the back. I can’t fit a vacuum in
@@Youranium22 it's actually smart because you won't have to bring a bulky vacuum cleaner into a car.
The odyssey has a microphone to talk to the people in the back also
@@mattt555 Hello! Odyssey Passengers!
7:01
That moment you just remembered you are supposed to pick your kid up from soccer practice, and you're already running 10 min late.
I am a contractor and I drive a minivan. With rear and middle seats removed, I can put in an entire 4x8 sheet of drywall or plywood and they are completely protected from the elements and so are my tools. Being uncool makes them extremely cheap compared to trucks or SUVs and especially compared to professional cargo vans. This helps me keep my costs down and stay competitive.
7:19 TRANSLATION: people's egos get in the way of making the practical choice.
Exactly.
Pretty much what it boils down to.
Sean Walsh It looks like a killer whale! It’s ugly! I wouldn’t want to wear a granny sweater or granny underwear or some clunky old lady shoes. And I’m sure there’s tons of things men don’t want to be associated with like tighty whitey briefs or dad jeans and shoes they all wore in the 90’s.
@@deanwinchester3356 I love my dad jeans!
If they get an SUV there is litteraly no differance in practicality but they still have a better look. Not everyone has a need for minivans,not even families.
People don't want minivans because they don't want to be seen as Karen's.
And what do you mean by karens
Seen as Karen's what?
gruffy snuggles if you buy a SUV now you are a Karen
Karens think they’re too cool for minivans, they drive SUVs. Where I live, it’s usually Tahoe that they drive like a psycho.
You buy a mid size crossover SUV you are a Karen
Consumers who buy SUVs are actually Minivan fanatics. They just don't realize it or perhaps they don't wanna face the reality of it.
I love the sliding doors. It is impossible to have kids accidentally hit the car beside you with a sliding door plus the space the sliding door gives you makes it easier to load and unload items like a large dog crate that can't fit through a regular car door.
Just last week my car was in the shop and due to a shortage of rent cars, I had to rent a minivan. I loved it. But i hated that I loved it 😂 everyone who rode in it loved it too!
I own one and I love it. For moving 7 people in comfort, plus all their gear, you can't beat it.
All 3 rows have reclining leather seats. Tri-zone automatic climate control. Need to move a bunch of stuff, both middle and 3rd row seats fold into the floor and you have a space 4 ft wide and 8 ft long in back of the front seats to carry pretty much anything you can think of. If you're into SUVs or cross overs, fill your boots, but for comfort, tech, and sheer versatility, you can't beat a mini-van. And, if people judge you because you drive one, that's their problem, not yours.
Jon Bountalas...well stated Mr. Bountalas, well stated indeed👍😀
I want my minivan back the suv doesn't have enough cargo room
I wanted mine back so much that I kept it ! (when I recently bought a Subaru Forester). Couldn’t part with it, a 2007 Caravan.
Truth
yes... but our honda pilot gen 1 has 3 row seats and a big trunk
Meanwhile in Japan you'd still see minivans literally everywhere, and they come in all sizes too.
Do you mean Kei cars?
and as kei cars too
I love minivans , they’re the most comfortable & coolest car for travel
I love my wife's minivan! People are so concerned about their looks. You are married with kids...the cool points are out the window
Years ago I bought an SUV and have been kicking myself ever sense that I didn't get a minivan instead. The space (and space you can put between kids) along with a door that slides is a beautiful thing.
I couldnt wait to get our minivan! Most of our young family friends all got one too and we love it! So much better with great space, storage and comfort! Also many look great, we love the look of ours.
I drove a durango. I used to be that mom that said "I don't want to be called a soccer mom with a van." Well, after test driving a minivan I fell in love! I love my minivan. So spacious. Sliding doors are easy access. Good with roadtrips. Happy minivan owner🥰
Ann L woah wait I have a Durango. That’s also an SUV... not a minivan lol
Stay away from Chrysler and Dodge
Bad transmissions
Brianna Lyon they said drove, so I think they meant that they used to drive a Durango.
Don't you love how people are ashamed of being a family now? You have kids get over it.
It's the media who promote the globalist anti white agenda, telling women they should focus on careers rather than the wonders of motherhood. Also look up the Kalergi plan.
Im a mom, love my kids. Never liked minivans. Getting a crossover.
I'm a mom & I want a Toyota sienna!!!😍
Jessica Durant I'm curious as to why you don't want a mini van. Can you elaborate? They drive better, handle better, have more room, come in AWD if you want just like a crossover, way cheaper to insure. They are the most family friendly vehicle available. Everyone I know that passes on a minivan is because of an image thing. And that image is family rig and they don't want to drive a family hauler.
J A it’s just that. They have always looked like a handheld vacuum cleaner to me. I agree that vans are great family cars. I have a family, I’m not ashamed of being a mom or the stigma of driving a van. My oldest will be in his own car before my youngest is out of a booster seat. Plus, I just don’t want one. If I’m gonna be making the payments on a car then I want to love it. I’m gonna be riding in the front. If my kids want the comfort, luxury and space to stretch out and put French fries in the seatbelt holes then they can help pay for it a van.
With that said though, I’m willing to have my mind changed if I don’t find a different kind of family hauler that I actually like looking at.
I just bought a 2017 Chrysler Pacifica in May and it is one of the most comfortable and practical vehicles I've ever been in. I absolutely love it, I don't even care what people think about it. Although, Fuel economy isn't really there, I get 19-21mpg on average. Its touted as the "King of the minivans" and I can totally see why.
I wear orthotics in my shoes, I drive a minivan. No shame. I go on road trips, sleep in my car (van build out with rear seats removed), go hiking and see the country. Insurance low and no theft so far. Great car for me!
I have a mini van. I'm not trying to impress anybody with a "cross over".
AircraftMechanic Crossovers are also tight with the third row option. Trunk space isn’t good
Anyone impressed with a "cross-over" need to get out more!
Crossovers are just glorified cars, you're better off with a van.
Cracks me up that some former van owners switch to cross overs as if cross overs were cool or sporty.
lol
I hope the minivan never goes away. I love them for my family.
I love mini vans! If I had extra money for a second vehicle I would definitely get one. Makes grocery shopping or moving furniture way easier
My parent's both drive a mini van and I thought it was kinda lame. They said one day to me that you should consider getting one lol I just laughed and said yeah right. So one day I got a ride from my mother due to my car temporary in the mechanic shop and whoa & behold it drove so smooth, plenty of space, comfortable, super practical, did I mention plenty of room. I was completely caught off guard & just from one ride it had changed the way I formerly precived a mini van. I don't own one yet however I definitely could see one in the future. Soo practical.. not great in the outer appearance but once inside it's a whole new world
Rented a Pacifica when my car was totalled. It surprised me with how much power and technology it had... it was nice.
there's even a PHEV variant of it now allowing for (albeit rather short range) fully electric driving.
I love my pacifica especially the stow and go feature with the seats! Main reason why I got it rather than all the other minivans out there
Bought one myself, best decision I made. I love how quiet it is.
I rented a Pacifica for a trip... I fell in love came back a month later bought a town & country 2016 for 15k loaded! #vanloverforlife
@@hxjxpxy I love my stow and go lol
Wouldn’t buy one but would gladly rent one for road trips.
Ron Reed there like the dream vehicle for a road trip
They are practical for a lot of things, not just road trips. Only a man that is completely secure of his masculinity would buy one. Insecure people buy Suburbans and Escalades. I am 30 years old and I don’t even have kids and I have a mini van and 2 motorcycless.
My husband and I own 2 Dodge Grand Caravans and we would not want to drive anything else. We prefer them to our Dodge Journey.
The vans have a 6 cylinder engine compared to a 4 in the Journey which is safer for highway driving. Also better gas mileage. They are very accomodsting to adult passengers. The catgo space is so versatile not only for sports equpment but also for
camping supplies, transporting larger objects such as furniture or many other bulky objects which could not be accommodated in many other vehicles. We will probably always opt for a minivan when we purchase a nnew vehicle
@@germanium1872 I own two Dodge Grand Caravans actually. They're a fantastic tool with the fold down seats, switch from hauling tools and lumber and groceries to bringing my friends with me on a road trip to just about anything else I could want to do.
With the rack on the top there's very little I could haul in a pickup that I can't haul in one of my minivans.
That’s why my dad wanted one. But they are so ugly.
I would love to have a minivan as a high schooler
I want one when I’m 18
If he owns a minivan! He’s a 💯% a KEEPER!!!
Minivans are like the nice guys and SUVs are like the jerks. Ladies always gravitate towards the latter even though they should go with the former in most cases.
This won't change my mind, proud owner of a minivan - it's still a lifestyle van for family trips, weekend activities and business jet during the week. Kia Grand Sedona.
That is mechanically sound van great v6 front wheel drive very low cost
I own a Minivan and I love that thing it is honestly one of the most practical vehicles you can get
Boring! You can’t drift in a minivan! Or at least, you shouldn’t. 🚐😂
Agreed, was the best purchase I ever made, so practical with kids it’s a no-brainer.
Super Durden absolutely kids and cargo as well
-Can Ameri- drift a chevy astro or dodge sprinter rwd lol...
one of the most?? nobots THE MOST PRACTICAL... PERIOD!!! and THAT'S THAT
A SUV is basically a minivan for the weak-minded and fragile.
Hell all the ones I see are high off the ground huge vehicles that have less room than a mini van! My SIL has one and I hate riding in it. As a shorter person I have to climb to get in that thing!
That's what I said a long time ago. Comes to show you that people will that pig with lipstick.
That's a dumb take lmao
I guess you can say that. Though I see it more as hatchbacks and sport wagons evolving to these. Chrysler tried to make the Pacifica more crossover like. They are even bringing back AWD for 2021 model year.
Some people use suv:s right. Most don't
3 row crossovers are basically minivans anyway, just without the more useful 3rd row space and sliding doors,
Shhh, don't tell crossover buyers that they're driving around a minivan in disguise.
@@darienmiller1032 No Crossovers are relabeled sedans and SUVs (Explorer / Cherokee) are and have always been minivans. I'll keep it a secret if you will.
Haha.
Truth is that lots of minivans have been more truck and SUV like than these “SUVs”
The Mazda MPV and first gen Odyssey both had hinged rear passenger doors.
The MPV as well as the Previa, Astro/Safari, and Aerostar all had full frames and were RWD based.
Almost all the vans were available with AWD (the Sienna and Pacifica are today I believe) as well as some with 4WD with low range in some cases.
So yeah... I call them minivans. Lots of them like the Traverse and Pilot really look like minivans. And their owners don’t like it.
First car I had was a Windstar minivan when my stepdad replaced it with a crossover. Any time we needed the 3rd row, the minivan was put into service. Both took up about as much space on the road, but the 3rd row in the crossover was seriously uncomfortable for anyone past middle school age. And for my money, the minivan drove better.
Toyota Sienna: * Am I a joke to you? *
London Diaz that car is a my dream BEAST, ugh I wish i can afford it with two kids
I think a lot of it has to do with people being like “oh that’s what my parents had. I don’t want that, that’s boring”. I had 2014 Grand caravan for 6 1/2 years, honestly I loved it. But my wife hated it because she didn’t want something like her parents had. I think we had it for about 3 or 4 months before she finally gave up and drove it. We have a 2020 Ford Expedition max now, granted I like the Expedition better but the mini van was way more practical and easier to live with on a daily basis with 4 children.
There is truth to it. For example, my wife's parents own a Sequoia. I had suggested my wife to get us a minivan. She said.no as she thoughts it looks butt ugly even though it is practical. Then I suggested Sequoia and she said no because she didn't want the same thing from.her parents. We got a Highlander which work out nicely for us.
@@edgaryzen4925 I actually really liked the look of my Caravan. It was like the RT trim, it has nice rims and trim on it. Like the sienna and the newer Chrysler minivans no I don’t care for the styling.
Honestly, the Pacifica van looks much better than many crossovers.
They're not cheap though. I was checking them out and a loaded Pacifica can really set up back some $$'s. They're pretty proud of them.
The Chrysler Pacifica minivan 🚐 is much better than the old Chrysler Town & Country was.
Looks are not what it's cracked up to be
Buy one and you will have complete transmission failure before 40K
Bad marriage with Fiat
Pacifica’s are expensive and Chrystler’s are poorly engineered. They’ve had terrible problems with transmission failures and blown head gaskets.
@@LG123ABC the high tech features and high price point are likely to get minivans into the luxury market.
Box-on-wheels ridesharing?? You mean taking the bus?
*NO. the bus is like sleeping in army barracks -- if not like a homeless shelter*
whereas independent vehicles (future autonomy or otherwise) is like a range of hotel rooms ... to luxury and suites
@@qncsc All we need is a serial killer to become an Uber driver.
lmaooo
They’re probably referring to a cardboard box.
I love my minivan. I would still drive one even if I was single.
AdamandRachel O'Connor many ppl do actually more than you know
I'm single and I have two, one for work one for play. My friends love road trips in the 'family van'
michael monopoli 2!!! sheesh You must really love them, I don't question owning any at all, but that's dedication
@@JDMHaze I've got an 05 and an 07 Dodge Grand Caravan. Fantastic tools and I'm a single guy.
AdamandRachel O'Connor i am single too ,but i would like to drive my friends around with my minivan:)
Four years ago I traded in my grand caravan for a small suv. I still miss the grand caravan. I’m a single person but I loved the spaciousness and the sliding doors.
Same. My dad liked the caravan, but hes pretty loyal to honda/toyota. Even tho dodge made a good car, we still didnt wanna deal with the fact those vehicles are stereotypicall unreliable. Not sure the actualy stats tho.
We got an SUV instead, just because it looks cool and was cheaper than hondas other minivans.
Yayyyyy you mentioned the Odyssey!!! I have a 2010 it drives like a truck and it doubles as a shelter it's great.
I have 2010 too and same here
I’ve been driving a town and country since 2015 and I love it.
Is it still running
Guaranteed you have had a transmission failure of some sort
All the modern minivans transmissions come from FIAT
Just bought a new Odyssey. Got 4 kids. Absolutely love it!
I remember we had a GMC conversion Van in the 90s, it was awesome!! So comfortable and spacey, especially during those long vacation trips. I remember the back seat folded down into a bed
Miss my Ford Windstar. It was much more roomy for long trips and great when I needed to give rides to a lot of people. I've had to turn away a couple that needed a ride to church because my suv didn't have enough room for everyone.
My boss traded his Sequoia in for a Sienna. He said it was the smartest thing he ever did.
I thought about getting a sequoia but ended up buying Sienna. It’s way more practical. I do think that Sequoia is safer in event of collision, slightly more comfortable on long drives and has a lovely V8 roar.
Kien Tran The safety was based on mortality data for drivers and front passenger from NHTSA . Big vehicles have been consistently safer than smaller ones. Look it up. They have all data since 1975
I traded a pilot for sienna too. Best move ever
Kien Tran: But they downside is sequoia are gas guzzlers. Fuel economy is very bad at 13/17. But they are reliable.
arogyalohani use iihs instead. It’s better.
I’m so looking forward to the end of the SUV-era...
It’s coming. However when it does folks in North America will be transitioning to small- to medium-sized hatchbacks instead of back to sedans.
-Can Ameri-, I don’t think it will come for a long time. At this point crossovers get the small mileage as sedans and even some hatchbacks. People will just keep buying them unfortunately.
Cant wait for that to happen
To be specific, SUVs in urban areas.
Same here, SUV is considered the new "soccer mom mobile", can't wait for station-wagon, sedan, hatchback comebacks
I loved the sliding doors on my Mazda 5, the kids were not able to door ding other cars. The wide door was also great for my elderly parents to be able to in and out of the vehicle easier.
My minivan camper is economical and practical. I've owned 3 since 1993. They evolved from kid haulers to utility vehicles to little RV's. I will always have one.
I love having a mini van, they are great when it comes to storage and are very comfortable to drive.
Get some help!
You should learn how to travel light
@@raywei8472 well with carseats, strollers, etc that's pretty hard to do.
Totally agree with you. Every mini van exceeded my expectations. I look at ppl driving an suv and I KNOW they got gouged many thousands when they bought new because an suv is "cool".
my grandfather had a minivan until he died. '98 Plymouth Voyager, and that poor van was beaten to death, yet it soldiered on. 244K(ish)miles, was routinely overloaded and made to drag a 5,000 pound boat, and then also launch and pull said boat. it was overworked, and when it started having issues idling they were ready to send it off lol
I would get a mini van if it got better mpg. Seems like a great car to sleep in during road trips or camping.
kira yamato Toyota is bringing hybrid Sienna in 2021
my odyssey minivan gets 28 mpg, while a suburban similar size gets 19 mpg, 3 row crossovers like pilot gets 27 mpg.
If you think about it, minivans are pretty much crossovers with a lot more room.
Just rented out the Chrysler Pacifica 2021 to drive from NC to NY with a newborn and a toddler. This car is a beast! Very beautiful and have EVERYTHING you could ever want in a car. There is no way we could make this trip without this car. It literally made the trip way smoother than you can imagine. I plan to buy a minivan and I do not care about the look as long as my family and I feel comfortable. I count the days until I can afford to buy it! :D
"...saved Chrysler from total ruin." Seems to be a recurring theme.
I still see plenty of soccer mom's riding around in vans with a single kid in the back. They'll never go away
We bought a 2019 dodge grand caravan and we LOVE it!!!
I predict complete transmission failure
Bad marriage with Fiat
Transmissions come from FIAT
Omg! How many times in its history Chrysler has been bailed out?
I believe once, circa 1979.
Too many
I am a 50 year old single man and I drive a minivan because it fits my lifestyle. Its also affordable. I dont care about image. No one else pays my bills.
They couldn't be bothered to find a new picture of a Sedona?
I guess they ran out of free un-watermarked copyright options on google images.
They went out to find one of the 17,928 sold last year and failed
Yep,and its the best model and value.
It's too bad; I usually like Chrysler stuff but I think the current Sedona is the sharpest looking minivan on the market. Very nice.
Ive had a great history with the minivans that my family rented before. Good seating.. there was a tv and felt so comfortable
Two things I love about my Dodge Journey is how it reminded me of my old Grand Caravan, and of course the AWD.
I would buy a Sienna so I could turn it into a camper.
Angelica Cushing What's sad is they make camper minivans everywhere except the US, Toyota made several in the past, the VW eurovan Didn't used to be the only option
Only mini van with AWD.
We use our Odyssey for camping and road trips. It's great! Yeah, we don't go off road to the most remote wildernesses. But it's still perfect for our needs. And I'm glad to take the 28 mpg in town, 30-34 highway mpg over everything else we've had in the past or that's on the market.
@@lorieharris2776 Oh no, I have 2 Odysseys. It's 18 -24 mpg.
@tdot22 So minivans suddenly grew after 2004? Where do you get this information from?
I'm 31yrs old and my dream car is the Chrysler Pacifica hybrid limited.
I consider it a luxury covered pick up truck....
@Chase Musgrow u sound stupid and vain
Stay away from Chrysler
Bad transmissions
Bad marriage with Fiat
Bad headache
Good luck putting a couch in the back or towing anything over 100lbs
Wyatt Nyfeler towing capacity for most vehicles is 1200lb
Vans are so cool. My brother drives one and he’s the one that picks up all his friends.
“Sporty”sells but, when you get down to rational buyers, there will always be a place for the spacious minivan.
Lol John Davis from Motorweek still looks and sounds the same like how he did back in the 80's
he's a cyborg!!!!
He's a reptilian 🐲🐉🦖🦕🐢🐊🐍
👽
YES! I just watched a more present episode with him in it!