Wood Glue Strength Test - Titebond III vs Titebond Original vs Gorilla Glue
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- Wood Glue Strength Test - Titebond III vs Titebond Original vs Gorilla Glue.
I wanted to do this test for a very long time. I've been using Titebond for a very long time end never thought to use anything else. But Titebond glues are quite expensive here in Europe and Gorilla glue is a little bit cheaper. So I decided to give it a go.
Check out my video so see the results of my test.
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Would the results be much different if you'd let the glue fully cure? Or month or two should be enough.
@@WDeeGee1 for normal applications this time should be enough.
If you like your hands, tool handles and work to look like a dirty, old gorilla, than that's your glue.
I should point out that two inch pine is not typically kiln dried and so any water-proof glue should perform better than a water soluble adhesive.
Besides, glue strength is vastly over rated since projects rarely fail on any properly made glue joint.
Glue joints will positively fail however for folks who make a habit of gluing end-grain butt joints. No amount of monkey glue can prevent it.
Played the video at 1.25 speed, still sounds normal 💪
This is actually a useful tip...
I did it, forgot I did it. Definitely helped lol
1,50 in speed worked better for me. 😉
I'm subscribing regardless, this channel is informative
Lol what the heck
Glad to see you used the weakest joint and tried twice for accuracy.
Nice video. Good to actually see the strength of the glues. I always expect a sledgehammer video when I see this type of video. Good stuff!!
Thank you kindly my friend glad you liked it 👍😁
Working on O gauge model train bridge railing, so I would like most strength for my buck (in case of derailment). This video was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. It was as scientifically controlled as it needed to be and was a great direct comparison.
Thank you kindly
I’ve used gorilla glue for all kinds of interior woodwork projects to gluing up oak doors, beech worktops joints general construction and panelling, I use it exclusively, and it is incredibly strong glue, sets up quick too, I was able to glue up clamp and finish an oak box for a Christmas present on Christmas Eve in one day with no issues at all, to remove set glued pieces the wood breaks and splinters before the glue gives, all round great glue highly recommended!
Great experiment and actually scientific with duplicates. Good job!
Thank you kondly
Good comparison video with an unexpected outcome! Good stuff buddy.
Thanks mate, I was really convinced that Titebond will be the best
Titebond lll is my go to
WOW, thanks for posting this, good enough for me to decide
Thank you for watching
I have been using Titebond for many years, original, type two and type three with no issues but I ran out one day and could only get Gorilla. I was so impressed with the preformance that I have been using it exclusively ever since. I find it easier to spread, easier to clean up and the strength is superb. Their polyurethane glue is also brilliant for outdoor use but needs to be spread thinly as it foams and is not as easy to clean up, but super strong.
I just buy the one that's on offer 😁👍
@@CasualDIY If you are serious about your woodworking don't go for offers, go for quality.
@@davidjennings9253 I think both Titebond and Gorilla glue give solid results 👍
I need to glue up thick oak steps for my single stringers stairs. As much as I like polyurethane glue - I think it does not cause any swelling of the wood fibres which can be a bit problematic with the dominos/biscuits. It's major strength is filling the pores in rather crappy material, while I'll be dealing with pristinely planed surfaces. I think on this occasion I will go with the simple gorilla wood glue (that white one)
lol. i'm a photographer who is getting into carpentry and been using gorilla gaffer tape for many years. so when i needed glues, grab adhesives and wood glue i bought from the brand i recognised. Very glad to see my good decision quantified so entertainingly! thank you
Thank you for watching👍
Very interesting video. Thanks!!
Glad you like it, thanks for watching 👍😁
Thanks dude, we watched your video in school!
Lol
Thank you this was very helpful 😊
Thank you for watching 👍
That's really cool! Big like !
Thank you kindly
Thanks for the test, I have always used Gorilla so nice to know I was right.
Thank you for watching 👍
really interesting experiment!
Thanks John, I was very surprised with the outcome to be honest
Mannnnnnnnn this guy is legit. I was not expecting a science experiment out of glue testing. I loved all his inspector gadget tools, he goes above and beyond youtuber of the year lol idc.
Thanks for the video , not tried Gorilla Glue for wood but have had Titebond fail. I was aiming to go back to Evostick wood glue but might give Gorilla Glue a try instead
Definitely worth checking it out I know I will start using it from now😁
Ive used all 3 and although all bond well, the gorilla glue turns brittle after a period of time. The titebond 3 seems to have more elasticty over a longer period of time. I usually leave the set time to 48 hrs and never an issue.
I don't think you will ever have any major issues with them. All of them got different properties. The T3 is waterproof with long curing time which is helpful in some cases. On the other had Gorilla glue is also waterproof but got shorter curing time. Then T1 is not waterproof but cures very fast. So you will use them in different circumstances.
Thank you for your review. I've tried both and have found Gorilla to be far more versatile as well, I've even joined some stonework together with it, it's great BUT it's nozzle is not, it is very hard to open because the glue seems to bond to the pull mechanism. That may not be the case elsewhere than in Australia but that's how it is here. We are made to pay the highest dollar for the lowest quality for pretty much everything.
I find that to about the nozzle so now after use each time I just wipe off the nozzle from glue excess and problem solved.
@Tony Dean. Hmmm, let me think about that. You pay twice as much cause you can use the products all year round. Here in U.S. we pay half cause we can only use them for half the year because of winter. And your complaining?
Did anyone do the calculations to figure out what the actual holding strength is taking into account the leverage from the right angle joint....?
Thanks man!
Just glued up a guitar bridge with gorilla because its what i had available, good to hear this results. Thanks for doing this.
Thank you for watching 😁👍
Hey Just wondering how the gorilla glue did?
The gorilla glue worked fine, bridge is holding with no sign of letting go ever.
Man, I have used Gorilla glue to repair a Les Paul headstock on its third break and it did the job. No splints and no other reinforcements. I spent hundreds of dollars on having that head stock repaired "professionally" but still broke after the first two repairs. I didn't want to ditch that guitar because it plays nice and I like the tone after quite a few mods I installed Gibson pickups. So I thought I would try the Gorilla glue and am pleased I did the job myself and saved many $s.
Great informative video
Thank you very much 👍
Would it be suitable to use Gorilla wood glue to fill holes that I have made by mistake on a bass guitar, in an attempt to reposition the bass bridge?
I will need to screw screws into these holes, so the strings will be putting a certain amount of pressure....
Can you drill slightly larger holes and put wooden plugs in them? That would give you the strength you need and could be a visual feature
Hi i have gorilla glue never used the other its good to know its one of the best by the way love watching your vids very interesting
Thank you kindly👍😁
Yes it's became my favourite wood glue 😁
I would be using theses glues for outside use want them to be water proof and strong. I’d like to see u weather them and then do the strength test again.
If you want long term strength that will last for years in wet enviroments get Marine glue. None of these wood glues will stand the test of time.
Hi Thomas, Great review and testing I've been using Gorilla glue for a number of years and the only problem I have ever come across s how difficult it is to separate thngs once the glue has set so all n all there has been no bad issues with it at all
That's good to know that there is no nasty surprises with it. Thanks 👍
Already use it. Easily the best I’ve used for neat glue ups in the UK. Gladiator is the best I’ve ever used but it foams up and goes off like concrete so not tidy and requires a mechanical fixing (a screw) to keep the joint together while the glue cures
Not heard about the Gladiator but it sound bit messy. I think the Gorilla glue will be my new favourite glue 😁👍
Wonder how strong gorilla glue original is?
What dog hole clamps are those? The blue and black ones..cool video.
Thank you. They are about £8 and they are rubbish. When doing this video I have stripped the plastic theeth on two of them. It reminded me why I made my own clamps lol
Good video. It would be interesting to see how GG compares with evo-stick wood glue which is supposed to be stronger than wood.
Never heard of that
Basically all wood glues are stronger than wood. They fill the pores and make the glued points more solid, and thus more likely for the wood to break somewhere else...if you clamp it well.
do you always clamp the items you are gluing
Nilmarie Olmo yes
Very informative!
Thanks
I make planters out of heavy wood. A 50cm x 50cm planter weighs 27kg without the 15-20kg (60 litres) of soil/compost.
I use Gorilla glue and 4 pocket screws to hold the tops (where people would carry the box) as combined they are so strong.
The wood will break before the glue.
Nice video BTW 👍
Thanks for watching 👍
Hi there, your video was very handy. I just tried titebond with poplar Plywood not totally impressed So I will try gorilla. Not very familiar with their range, which gorilla glue is it please?
It's the Gorilla PVA wood glue 👍
hi there! any suggestions on what would be the scientific procedure of getting results on the different kinds of these glues? Thanks!
Sorry I'm not a scientist 🤣
@@CasualDIY bummer, haha! Thanks anyways nice video 👌🏻
Wow its a good thing to know which one is stronger
It was a bit surprise to me to be honest 🤔
Did you wet the other piece for the Gorilla Glue joint? GG needs water to cure, and causes it to foam and expand. So long as you use decent clamping force, this would force the glue into the fibres of the end grain, and might have made an even stronger joint. Should you have been using the words Tension or force rather than 'pressure'?
The Gorilla glue I used it's the PVA version👍
@@CasualDIY It's Gorilla Glue Original that needs water to cure and expands. Gorilla Wood Glue does neither.
Pretty impressive test. The "Gorilla" glue was significantly stronger than Titebond 111 and Titebond original. Seems that I will be changing Adhesives in future for better glue joint strength!😲😲
I built a small proa with Gorilla glue. It worked very well. Cheaper than using epoxies. I covered the boat with Fiberglass and resin. Very strong.
Your results were surprising. I normally use Titebond but I have some questions. I understand that this isn't really a scientific test. However, have you considered the physics involved? Results aside, what you shown is the usefulness of levers. It seems to me that the roughly 10 inches from the joint that the torque is applied would multiply that torque by a significant amount. Have you considered that or thought of doing the math to see what the actual torque at the glue joint is? Not a burn, just a question
No, it was just a simple test that's all. And I have to say I was surprised as well. To be fair in most applications you will be using the glue it will not make that much difference I think. It was still interesting to see this simple test in my opinion.
Nice one..........have seen similar conclusions re the Gorilla glue elsewhere. So will be changing over from Titebond
So far I'm very happy with it 😁👍
It would be interesting to see how evostick wood adhesive holds up , I use the blue one rated for exterior use.
Never heard of those I need to look it up
Here’s a link ,they also do the ordinary green indoor version.
www.toolstation.com/evo-stik-exterior-resin-w-wood-glue/p39201
evostick is not as good as any of these that he has on test,i had bad experiance with evo for strength
I’ve tested it for strength & it is indeed stronger than wood itself ,it’s all I use , I have used titebond once but I’ll never use it again as I don’t trust it because it failed , that’s why I would be interested in a head to head test under the same conditions.
Contact adhesives would not work at all well for a joint like that. Any PVA would be an order of magnitude better for a wood/wood joint.
which Gorilla glue was used? Also, were the butt joints completely flush; or, were there imperfections in the different surfaces?
PVA, and the joints were flush in all joints.
Thanks you for video .I wanna šak u whitch glue you are using for glue wood with acrylic ? 😉
I would use 5 minute epoxy but not sure if it would affect the acrylic
@@CasualDIY thank you Tomas . I will try 😉
Why not applying the force on the lever at the other side? That would make more sense I guess
You should try in cold weather. I had problems with the PVA glues in cold temperatures. Try to put the woods one day into the freezer only after the glues will be dried. It will be interesting.
Well they do have minimum and maximum operating temperatures. Same like paint and anything else. So yes you will have issues if you are not sticking with the recommended temperatures.
I think adding a bungee cord doubled up would help the ratchet setup pull more evenly. (If you do something like this again).
I'm planning another test however I need a different better setup to do this test.
Can You do a test between Gorilla glue and bone glue our oldest glue for furniture, please.
Sorry never seen bone glue in my local DIY stores. I would have to look on the Web if I can get it.
I have found that 3 is to much like water 💧 Did you notice this issue? Thanks • Gary from Michigan.
No no issues like that.
Now add in the leverage formula and the numbers will be greater.
You didn't show what the wook looked like. Did the wood splinter or was the only failure the glue itself?
Strangely in all cases it was just the glue joint, no splintering.
What with Vice Grip Garage music intro?
I am so happy I used gorilla glue for my music studio desk build its so strong and makes my workspace nice and sturdy :)
Yep it's strong that's for sure
This could be a weird question but if I want to attach fabric to wood do I use wood glue??
I used normal spray glue for fabrics and anything's else really
I think Gorilla Glue would work really well on a fabric/wood joint. Certainly better than any of the PVA variants which have a chemical bond with the wood so work differently. Another glue that would work well is Canopy Glue Formula 560, that claims to stick anything to anything, but it comes in tiny 59ml bottles costing about US$8. I got on to Canopy Glue from one of the Luthier (guitar making and repair) channels. Aerosol contact adhesives would also work well, and are reasonably convenient. BTW WD40 is good for cleaning the spray nozzle after use.
Gorilla recommend their Wood Glue only for wood-to-wood, as it "won't provide a maximum bond on other surfaces", to quote the video on their website. You can see occasionally the "Gorilla Wood Glue" label in the video, but it would have been clearer if the title and the narration had explicitly referred to "Gorilla Wood Glue" rather than just "Gorilla Glue", which most people would take to be the Original.
Very informative adventure video
Hehe thanks
I keep both around and I really like Gorilla glue. However, when I am doing outdoor work, you may want to stay with Titebond if it is for outdoor use.
I will agree there
Gorilla - is not water soluble. Its awful to get off your hands. Doesn't clean up well. I also don't really like that it seems to foam out of joints. Its messy to get accustomed to.
Which one? 1 2 or 3?
I'm really stuck on Gorilla glue, I don't use anything else. Good video.
Thanks, yes I think its a great glue👍
I build guitars, can you do the same test with bottled Titebond hyde glue and maybe fish glue?
If I'll pick them up on my next shopping spree I'll try to do a test
lol you build guitarS and you don't know which one is better?
A much better wood glue test can be found here: czcams.com/video/k-g3efGa3sI/video.html Keep in mind that some glues are waterproof, and some are not. If a glue tests good (but is not waterproof) and you're using it outside in the elements (rain, snow, etc) it won't do you much good. Always choose the best glue for the environment in which you're using the project in.
Where in the uk did u learn your accent
As a Titebond 2 user, this has given me food for thought. I'm gonna be buying some gorilla glue for sure now and testing it out.
Thanks for the video. Very informative.
Thank you very much for watching 👍
Same here.
Thank you for this experiment.
My partner and I have used Gorilla Wood Glue for 2 legs on an antique nightstand. We thought that drilling holes for dowels could do more damage.
The nightstand looks great, but I've been too nervous to place anything on it.
I guess as long as it's not too heavy, it should be OK. 😊
Glue should be stronger then wood. So should be no issues👍
Is there a reason why you didn't wet the part as stated in the Gorilla Glue instructions? I wonder if it would have been even stronger.
This is a PVA Gorilla glue not poly
I use both titebond 3 and gorilla glue. for a difficult glue up I like use titebond 3 it takes a little longer and settings so gives me a little bit more time. Titebond 3 is better at water resistance also. Most of the time I go straight for the gorilla glue.
It seems I've been missing out, trusted Titebond for so long🤔
I find it funny in other tests the titebond is the winner.
Maybe they were "sponsored" tests 🤔😉
Hi, you'd better use a threaded joint and a wrench to apply force. Otherwise useful experiements. Thanks.
Check the other guy vid where his gorilla glue goes well over 100 Kg. Where is the mistake? I'm trying to figure it out. Let me know your opinion on this. Thanks
Depends on many factors. Equipment used to do the test, measuring device, type of wood ( how pours it is ), moisture content, how long the glue was setting etc.
Good job. Regards.
Thanks👍😁
Cheers for this, just wanted to know the strongest of the commercially available wood glues for a project I'm planning... Gorilla glue it is then!
They will all do you a good job, Gorilla is just cheaper - make sure to use the PVA version and not the polly
@@CasualDIY Oh I will! Cheers!
What about Titebond original vs Titebond II?
Could be a future video
Has anyon used VITALBOND ORIGINAL ALIPHATIC WOOD GLUE Made by Titebond
Dont forget, there is an additional substance being added to the glue; the oil from tour finger when you spread the glue. How each glue reacts to that, who knows🤷🏼 could change all the results.....
Love gorilla glue I use it for all my wood products. Thou it didn't last long on a miter 45 box frame left out in cold garage. But that was my first box so I may not of apply it properly.
I burn two 2x6's than I cut the two one at say 5inch and the other 31/2inch than glue them into a L shaped Leg and use it as a table support attached with 4 flat head furniture bolts and t-nuts and it Olds the test if my weight no problem with no screws up the side of the leg and looks like one solid piece of wood
With time comes experience 👍😁
Yeah gorilla glue is very good I have been using it for a couple of years it's the only glue I have found that bonds mdf together plus gorilla glue is easier to buy
I was only using Titebond but that will change🤣
Witam jestem w szoku bo każdy Titebond najlepszy klej, tu lekie rozczarowanie pozdrawiam serdecznie.👍
Sam byłem w szoku lol również pozdrawiam😁👍
Isn’t this vice grip garage theme?
Can I suggest another glue to add to the mix? 'Cascamite' is VERY strong and was advertised ad being 'stronger than the wood itself' In my experience, the joint has never failed but the wood was torn apart when a joint was (accidentally) stressed to much. Many fails over the years.
A bookshelf I made had only the edge of two shelves glued to a backboard on the wall. These took the weight of a of an encyclopedia. Using blockboard! When it was pensioned off, I tried to break it up and only broke the wood apart near the joints! I am going to use it when gluing my new bench together... Thanks for the interesting and informative video. I would love to hear the results of using Cascamite on Various tough hardwoods, like Oak etc.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try to make another test some time in the future👍
Very interesting and informative. I know its 'kinda scientific' but at least you had a load cell instead of a hammer! And its easy to see the quite notable difference in strength required to break it. After a quick bit of research, gorilla glue is slightly cheaper than titebond too! (if you're in the UK). Nice video. got a subscriber :)
Welcome aboard 😁👍 I was surprised with the test results to be honest. I thought Titebond would be much harder but there you go.
I too appreciate how the test was done.as I used to work in Mechanical Testing, and we would either adapt a testing machine tooling or rig a calibrated load cell in a simuler way to do the test.
But do they have Titebond II???
Yes
Super...big like !!!
Thanks my friend 😁👍
Bravo 👏
👍😁
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You're welcome
Nice test. Were are you from?
Thank you. I'm from Poland 👍
@@CasualDIY czemu w takim razie zdecydowałeś się na filmy w języku angielskim, a nie polskim?
Bo w Polsce każdy wie lepiej i jest bardzo dużo toksyczności. Wolę produkować filmy dla ludzi którzy chcą się czegoś dowiedzieć a nie tylko trollowac. Oczywiście to ogólna generalizacja, ale jest na podstawie moich początkowych doświadczeń. Kolejna ważna rzecz to fakt ze rynek anglo jezyczny jest nie porównywalnie większy od polskiego.
@@CasualDIY rozumiem. Dla mnie szkoda, bo słabo znam angielski, a chętnie bym Cię pooglądał. Zastanów się chociaż nad napisami polskimi :) Powodzenia, bo ciekawe materiały nagrywasz :)
@@KOCELINHO dzieki, tak będę pracował nad napisami do przyszłych filmów
Are u Birmingham or Dudley? I hear a trang
Hehe I'm Polish, been living in Leicester and Rugby for 15 years hence the accent I guess😂
I mix titebond, gorilla and evo together it’s really good.
Lol what a mix
Good test Tomasz. Gut feeling only, but I have always felt gorilla glue was stronger, nice to be proved right. It is just a bit thicker which may be the difference perhaps, who knows? The gorilla glue is occasionally on offer in Aldi, so I usually stock up then. I am also suffering serious clamp envy, it would take me days to glue up the test pieces ;-(.
Yes I picked it up from Aldi as well 👍😁 I honestly thought that Titebond would be far stronger but I proved myself wrong lol
That is true when gluing side grain together . Not side to end grain like this test.
@@niklasschenck8486 Not sure what you're referring to. The distinction could be interesting, so could you possibly expand?
Adds Gorilla glue to shopping list. :D - Heidi
Hehe yep it's my new favourite glue 😁
Strange as other's testing find the exact opposite!?!? I guess all look strong enough. While I'm not convinced with your set up the kind of values you measure are more than adequate for all my applications 🙂. It would have been nice to see old PVA in there 🙂as that seems to be the most universally used glue, hahaha.
And in a way that's the point of this video. There are a lot of people thinking that Titebond is the ultimate glue and Gorilla glue is far worse. The truth is they are all more or less similar where it comes to strength and it doesn't matter which one you use (obviously considering application purposes- outdoors or indoors etc). Why pay more if the cheaper glue does the same.
@@CasualDIY totally agree. I'm hoping not to have my work pulled apart by massive forces expecially as it will also be jointed or pocket screwed etc. I'm happy titebond original.
Ha! Was going to make this exact same video but now I’m gonna just point people to yours when I’m trying to tell them how good gorilla glue is (in most situations). :D
Titebond III is much better at resisting water and I’ve found it to be a bit thinner mix otherwise it’s gorilla glue all the way :)
I can’t remember, did I give you a bottle of gorilla glue at makers central?
Hehe got one in be for you lol yes it seems to be very good and I wasn't convinced to it to be honest. But now I think it will be my go to glue 😁👍
No I missed a free bottle 😉 I'll be there this year👍😁
Casual DIY If I’m on the gorilla glue stand again (not sure currently) I’ll hook you up! ;)
Cool,hope to see you there
Thank you , I have been a fan of Gorilla glue for a while. Was thinking about trying Titebond , not any more.
I was a fan out Titebond lol
Gorilla glue girl
Very helpful, i will be using gorilla glue! What is your accent btw, its very interesting
Hehe I'm Polish 👍
Gorilla foams up a bit, so it's a great choice where there are more voids between the members. You were gluing an end-grain to the face, and end grains are quite porous. I go for gorilla when doing restoration work, or any rough-sawn wood, because there will be more dings and tears making some space. If you're going face-to-face, same-direction grains, my guess is the difference between their strength shrinks. For that I like good ol' yellow carpenter's glue, because it lasts on my shelf forever.
This Gorilla glue I used is pva not poly so it doesn't foam up.
WOW.. all the people crying about using a butt joint.. they might want to check out the the small section from 30 seconds to 55 seconds into the video where I herd you clearly state you were testing the GLUE STRENGTH on the WEAKEST joint possable. Not the joint strength on a glued, dowl or screw reinforced joint. When your trying to get a gage of what glue is better as far as bonding capabilities this was actually i nice reference test.
That's exactly my point. Thank you so much, Thank you for watching 😁👍
@@CasualDIY Those critics are buttheads!
I'm about ready to go in my corner and wonder what life is all about... In another video someone posted how the gorilla glue failed on them. Titebond is practically the number one glue used in luthier and all we have is gorilla glue. It's 50/50 at this point whether I should trust the gorilla glue or order titebond if our stores don't have any.
Okay so I've tested the gorilla glue on scrap wood I'm using and found that it is indeed a viable option (it's become a solid piece). However, I did glue the guitar headstock on the neck, but you have absolute ZERO time to clamp your pieces together!... It's ridiculous! If you are going to use gorilla glue, DO NOT TAKE YOUR TIME TO APPLY TO BOTH PIECES!!! Just apply on one piece and rush, rush, RUSH to clamp your pieces together!
I purposely made my pieces very slightly curved so that the middle will exhaust the glue to try to have the wood touching together and have the glue excess more on the sides but now I have a thick slob of glue in between the wood because it started curing within 3 minutes of applying to both pieces and clamping no longer had an effect within 5 minutes. I am now scared to think about gluing the fretboard onto the neck because it is a larger surface and I will need to finish applying and clamping in under 2 minutes... I really wanted to minimize wood-glue-wood vibration transfer but that option is out the window.
I guess I will confirm that gorilla glue IS reliable... You just have NO control over how much squeeze out you get from clamping unless it's a tiny project.
Interesting Gorilla wood glue
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Hi Tom,
Carlo Duroni, down below came up with a "fact" that I have definetly heard sometime ago, and have heard it many times since, but when I was working in the Upholstery business perhaps?, and it was definetly said, by "knowledgeable people", Foremen or Craftsmen??, that thePVA glue that was used joining the wood was stronger than the wood?, and the wood would brake before the glue?, never researched that, as I believed it!.
So I am shocked to find that in your experiment the Glue broke????, OK it was they PVA, but maybe what was said about PVA is TRUE?, (go on do it again with PVA).
I agree with the Italien your good to watch & hear).
Yes mate I think I can do few more experiments. Got the gear for it 😉and thank you 😁👍
That is true when gluing side grain together not end grain to side grain like this test .