Relic / data guide - Eve online - Before 8 it's bait

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
  • In this video I share my results from analyzing 100 hacks. I hope that this video will help you in your own hacking.
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Komentáře • 121

  • @dutchdefender422
    @dutchdefender422  Před 4 lety +28

    Hello,
    Since making this video I have made a new video talking about "midspawns".
    If you are still wondering about how those close-core spawns happen defintely watch it here:
    czcams.com/video/UThezypQ3Ts/video.html

    • @FizzleFX
      @FizzleFX Před 11 měsíci

      A very good guide, thanks. Though i think if you had a script (and a breath blocker on the mic) it would be a lot more professional.
      The content was great, the delivery could use another attempt. Though i take good information over perfect delivery every day

    • @scotrod5221
      @scotrod5221 Před 4 měsíci

      Hey and thank you so much for the guide! Can you confirm whether CCP didn't massage the creation process after your video? Meaning the algorithms for creating the minigames have been drastically changed?

  • @goofytycooner5519
    @goofytycooner5519 Před 3 lety +40

    I've seen tons of videos talking about exploration, but this one is definitely the most in-depth. I've been exploring for months and I never realized a lot of these things, thank you so much for this info

  • @redicanprime1181
    @redicanprime1181 Před 3 lety +4

    Geez. Initially I thought to myself, "I am not going to watch a 30 minute video on hacking". I have a swing and whoa! Crazy good video. Stayed on point too. No puff puff wasting words and time. All good info organized in an almost college life lesson plan.

  • @xenith21
    @xenith21 Před 7 měsíci +4

    As an analyst by trade, this was a quality video. I main exploration on my primary character and have been giving out advice to corp members on how to get through the hacking game based on my experience. This is going to push my ability to the next level and give the newcomers a fighting edge, great content.

  • @hikerdude5265
    @hikerdude5265 Před 3 lety +3

    Most comprehensive description of Hack Game rules and tactics I've seen yet. Great work, thanks!

  • @JonnyPew
    @JonnyPew Před 7 měsíci +2

    Excellent explanation of this. "Before 8 it's bait" has been of great help to me. Thank you.

  • @josephgalvez5048
    @josephgalvez5048 Před 13 dny

    o7
    I know I’m a few years late, but I still wanted to say thank you for this breakdown. I was losing about half of the cans because I just didn’t understand the logic of the game and I’m so paranoid in WH space that I was rushing too fast to learn. Since I watched this breakdown a few times I’ve gone from losing half the cans to rarely losing any of them and I absolutely love the minigame now.
    Thank you again, you’ve made me a very happy explorer!

  • @syxaxisphotography4092
    @syxaxisphotography4092 Před 3 lety +6

    Absolutely superb! More people, who are serious about hacking, need to see this. I really enjoy watching people take something apart and detail their findings. Nice work!

  • @lukewinter5153
    @lukewinter5153 Před 2 lety +4

    awesome guide I went from having around a 25% success rate to above an 80% success rate cant thank you enough

  • @kaijuseansy8122
    @kaijuseansy8122 Před 2 lety +1

    The quality of these 2 videos were amazing! I will have them bookmarked for years to come. Thanks for sharing your findings!

  • @AZ-Drone
    @AZ-Drone Před 4 lety +1

    Good guide and first video. Keep them coming. I spend the bulk of my time doing exploration and hacking sites. I’ll watch for your 8 and 6 rules and see how I do. I’m running Asteros and a Stratios most of the time and I’m always searching for sleeper cache
    sites, hopefully this will help clear the mini game faster.

  • @KrossFire330
    @KrossFire330 Před 4 lety +17

    I swear ive had an exit node spawn right next to my starting node, at least less than 8 nodes. But now after watching this video I will keep an eye out for such a thing and provide a screenshot if I am able to replicate it. Thank you for this video

    • @dutchdefender422
      @dutchdefender422  Před 4 lety +3

      Hey, did you watch the whole video? at 07:00 I explain that this is possible, albeit rare. If you spawn in the middle, the core can spawn anywhere!

    • @dutchdefender422
      @dutchdefender422  Před 4 lety +2

      Scratch that. I made a video to answer your question fully!
      czcams.com/video/UThezypQ3Ts/video.html

    • @takechixd8771
      @takechixd8771 Před rokem +1

      Haha, a bit late but had my core spawn legit next to me, the next node to the right of my spawn. Fastest and easiest ISK of my life lmfao

    • @arnislapsa1619
      @arnislapsa1619 Před rokem +1

      yeah, had core on first touch too. that happens when start lands on middle of the map and game fails to figure out where to place the core

  • @constructioneerful
    @constructioneerful Před 3 lety +4

    That's quite a stunning first video!! Nice one.

  • @user-mj5ss3vw4g
    @user-mj5ss3vw4g Před rokem +1

    your guide made my hackings so much better. Night and day difference using the before 8 it's bait strat. Thanks!

  • @skyraven9808
    @skyraven9808 Před rokem +1

    3rd time watching this vid over 3 years TY ! Great refresher !

  • @mlong35
    @mlong35 Před 2 lety +3

    Came for the bait, stayed for the kitten. 10/10.

  • @VistaOneStudios
    @VistaOneStudios Před 4 lety +2

    thanks for sending this over! I'm def going to watch before my next expedition!

  • @Sonnata23
    @Sonnata23 Před rokem +1

    This is an AWESOME guide ! Im new in eve and i love learning more about exploration and hacking. Thank you so much for the guide !

  • @tabarnoucheinterplanetary
    @tabarnoucheinterplanetary Před 4 měsíci

    Absolute classic EVE research. Mad respect.

  • @martyspartan6688
    @martyspartan6688 Před 3 lety +1

    You have no idea how much this helped me. Thank you so much

  • @rubyjohn
    @rubyjohn Před 4 lety +3

    Best hacking guide I've ever seen. Fantastic video!!!

  • @akshaymohan96
    @akshaymohan96 Před 3 lety +1

    This video helped me solve the hack safer and helped me find the core when there is nothing in the opposite corner. Thxs bro

  • @konstantinzavgorodniy3098

    This a great guide, thank you for the time you have spent on this.

  • @NightmareNinja91
    @NightmareNinja91 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video! I didn't know about the 8 node exclusion zone before. Better hacking here I come!

  • @morrgash
    @morrgash Před rokem +2

    Thank you very much for taking the time and do all the work to create this guide ☺

  • @cpengel
    @cpengel Před 2 lety

    This is the best video on relic hacking that I've seen!

  • @antypanag1
    @antypanag1 Před 2 lety +1

    thanks for these 2 vids - very informative !!!!
    since then no other vid of you exists
    hope you are well !!!

    • @ivoschoenmakers7864
      @ivoschoenmakers7864 Před 2 lety

      Hi, I'm well.
      I've found that whilst I enjoyed doing the analysis, coming up with theories and reverse engineering the minigame, I did not enjoy the process of writing a script, recording and editing (I really hated editing). On top of that my laptop got stolen at one point, which contained all my slides and raw video footage.

    • @antypanag1
      @antypanag1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ivoschoenmakers7864 since you are ok all are ok
      wish you happy new year
      greedings from Greece !

  • @Ultramar396
    @Ultramar396 Před 4 lety

    Best actually useful guide!
    btw when did "full map bonus" activates for the repair utility?

  • @mattisback4more
    @mattisback4more Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! Very helpful. :)

  • @Notyourbusinesschap
    @Notyourbusinesschap Před 2 dny

    I've learned a ton, thank you!

  • @cyan2925
    @cyan2925 Před 2 lety +1

    This is perfect, man, my respect.

  • @maximusultra9928
    @maximusultra9928 Před 8 měsíci

    probably the best resource for hacking ive seen so far sent my hacking attempts on terimon and crimson from ~15 to

  • @tjerkeman5369
    @tjerkeman5369 Před 4 lety +1

    this video is very helpful, thank you!

  • @IainPackham
    @IainPackham Před 3 lety +1

    Really useful video. Thank you!

  • @Jackpkmn
    @Jackpkmn Před 2 lety +2

    "Gonna have to take this very carefully." -25/90 virus
    "This is no problem." -35/110 virus
    "HULK SMASH!" -60/90 virus

  • @taylorrana-ruby391
    @taylorrana-ruby391 Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing, keep up the great work.

  • @LoserInChief
    @LoserInChief Před 5 měsíci

    I have only had about 4 hacking minigames (out of many hundreds) where the core was next to the spawn. It is extremely rare and surprising. The 8 node rule of thumb is spot-on, though!
    Your percentages of tools and defense spawns from white nodes "feels" about right too. However, I have really leaned away from opening white nodes unless I'm desperate, because it "feels" more like 75% of the time it is a defense node. Also, if I am desperate, I am probably about to fail the hack anyway, so it is unlikely I will find anything useful regardless.

  • @cherepanovilya
    @cherepanovilya Před 4 lety +1

    This as awesome, thank you so much!

  • @DamnedMachine
    @DamnedMachine Před 4 lety

    Phenomenal guide bro!

  • @ddh97
    @ddh97 Před 2 lety

    This is a lecture about eve hacking. Thanks

  • @overthebars6983
    @overthebars6983 Před dnem

    Amazingly informative video! Thanks and keep it up o7 Subbed

  • @Cheper
    @Cheper Před 4 lety

    Great analysis! thx

  • @Shadow3327
    @Shadow3327 Před rokem

    Great job, man!

  • @kubankhaos
    @kubankhaos Před 2 lety +1

    Yeap.....this IS the type of video i was looking for. I dont want people to explain what hacking is or fits while speaking slowly as if im mentally challenged. Get to the point, gimme the meat and potatoes. This video gave me some dessert as well.

  • @321GhostRider123
    @321GhostRider123 Před 4 měsíci

    Very helpfull for me as exploration beginner

  • @grahamdixon1699
    @grahamdixon1699 Před 7 měsíci

    Breathe man. Amazing information

  • @andrejw545
    @andrejw545 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this video :)

  • @tesciu00
    @tesciu00 Před 6 měsíci

    Hi, you've reminded me how inteligent eve players may be. This is a awesome video. Is there any chance that you could compile all the charts and ilustrations and post it somwhere? It's hard to scroll throu the video while hacking in 0.0 and there is a lot to remember about.

  • @MrDarchangelomni
    @MrDarchangelomni Před rokem

    Just relax, be at ease like at a campfire with friends, then just be yourself... selves that are not our self are what interest most people in a producer, NOT a fake video persona, those are fine for meme and fart joke videos. Content most people want to see long term, has a real person in it, who makes us feel like they are relatable and friendly. You have that I think, you just need to calm down and let it out. Thanks for the explanation, I have watched 16 tutorials before this one... this is by far the most confident I have felt in my hack understanding.

  • @JaredWilliamScott
    @JaredWilliamScott Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the fantastic video

  • @Markty07
    @Markty07 Před 2 měsíci

    26:00
    Take the least amount of "unsafe" nodes ! By coming from the right we go trough 2 unsafe nodes before being protected by the rule of six, but going to the left of the screen will get you 3 unsafe nodes before being protected by the rule of six.

  • @popanda3652
    @popanda3652 Před rokem

    Thank you!

  • @jorgegarcia6096
    @jorgegarcia6096 Před 3 měsíci

    The t2 modules are a great help

  • @SAMARTBO
    @SAMARTBO Před 3 lety

    this guide make hacking so faster and success!

  • @ruudcools2866
    @ruudcools2866 Před 3 lety

    Cool vid mate!

  • @KataMatthaion
    @KataMatthaion Před 4 lety +1

    I'm brand new to EvE and have taken up exploration almost exclusively. This guide was incredibly helpful to me. I can only imagine the amount of time and effort that went in to producing this. Both my time to hack and success rate immediately and considerably increased thanks to this, so thank you!

  • @SeventhAlkali
    @SeventhAlkali Před 4 lety +1

    One thing I noticed is if a node has only 1 connection is IS going to be a white node, or rarely, the core. I've hacked with this in mind without fail

    • @dutchdefender422
      @dutchdefender422  Před 4 lety

      I think I've found 1-connection empty nodes. They are reasonably rare though, and I didn't have the data to support that they are truly different from 3-connection nodes.

  • @epeeypen
    @epeeypen Před 8 měsíci

    thank you for your work.

  • @JosshRocket
    @JosshRocket Před 8 měsíci

    Wow such depth

  • @pup5330
    @pup5330 Před 4 měsíci

    Thx for the info

  • @vojtechvasut9609
    @vojtechvasut9609 Před 4 měsíci

    Saw this video 2-3 yrs ago and now that i got back to the game adter a 2yr break its a great refresh - (also why no comments allowed on the mid spawn vid?)

  • @jre353seriesenjoyer4
    @jre353seriesenjoyer4 Před 2 lety

    This was vvery helpful and now i'm able to hack way better

  • @Viddub
    @Viddub Před 3 lety

    This should be a Ted talk

  • @theyellowfury
    @theyellowfury Před 3 lety

    Interesting vid. I do most of my hacking in occupied null or wormholes with a cloaky astero so there isn't time for looking at numbers or figuring things out, I just thrash through as quickly as I can. I'm fitting a legion for future use and as it doesn't have so many mid slots I got one of those zeugma analyzers at a good price. But then found out the virus coherence isn't as good as the separate data/relic analyzer IIs. I'm cap stable with full rigs but I suppose I could compromise on that, and I could get a poteque implant too. Any other suggestions as to how I could boost my legion's hacking capability?

    • @brendonprophette8890
      @brendonprophette8890 Před 7 měsíci

      zeugma should always be used with the blackglass implant. clears every board

  • @vevenaneathna
    @vevenaneathna Před 3 lety

    good video. very thourough. it was a little hard to follow because it seemed like the mic kept cutting in and out or had some lag to it in detecting your voice? also the rate of u talking kept varying. but this is like everything anyone could ever need to know about this so thank you

  • @Zaibis2
    @Zaibis2 Před 7 měsíci

    I had it a few days ago that the core was right in front of my spawn. So you say that was a bug and not just statistically extreme unlikely?

    • @Zaibis2
      @Zaibis2 Před 7 měsíci

      Nevermind..... I should hold my feet tight and liste 🙈

  • @S31Syntax
    @S31Syntax Před 4 lety +4

    I'm confused at the virus health numbers. I've got an identical setup and my coherence is only 80.

    • @dutchdefender422
      @dutchdefender422  Před 4 lety +2

      Yes, I struggled about how to say this.
      When I was doing the hacks back in 2016 there were no Alpha clones. I used Archeology/Hacking 4 + 1 rig, later I used level 5 + 0 rigs. Now you can get the same virus health by getting lvl 3 + 2 rigs.
      My advice would be that you get a 25-90 virus for relic hacking and a 25-70 virus for data hacking. That is, if you're doing pirate sites. Relic sites contain way more loot, so missing a can there will hurt more. In Hisec I'd do it the other way around as in sleeper caches and ghost sites your data-virus is the one that matters most.

    • @fenriders7008
      @fenriders7008 Před 2 lety

      @@dutchdefender422 have you tried using the zeugma integrated analyser in conjunction with the black glass implant? It trivialises the mini game.

  • @zekekyoku590
    @zekekyoku590 Před 2 lety

    1/4+1/4+1/6+1/3=1 so that could be it for the spawn rate thing

  • @marcovalentinoalvarado3290

    I gave you a like for the cat.

  • @im_sorry_dave5117
    @im_sorry_dave5117 Před 3 lety +1

    Hits 👍 hits save

  • @jamegumb7298
    @jamegumb7298 Před 3 lety

    I bought a few Purloined (was that the word?) Sansha Data Analyzer. Looked good when I saw the virus coherence and then other thing on there.

  • @Fi77on
    @Fi77on Před měsícem

    i know this is 4 years old now but just came accross it.
    your talking about before 8 its bait? i've have plenty that were finished before 8 with some cores even being the first node i clicked.

  • @stratiosastero6880
    @stratiosastero6880 Před 4 lety

    please explain why sometimes we have one step core? we just begin hitting nodes and first one we hit is core

    • @dutchdefender422
      @dutchdefender422  Před 4 lety +1

      I believe I do so at 07:00!
      Basically whenever you spawn in the middle of the map the 8-distance rule doesn't work. Instead it's random (as far as I can tell).

  • @elvismalkic3024
    @elvismalkic3024 Před rokem

    not sure if in the 2y something changed drastically, but I just had a red core 2 nodes from the start point... just fyi

    • @NohusBluxome
      @NohusBluxome Před rokem

      The video explains when that happens and when the distance of 8 does not apply, or was that a different situation?

  • @carsonstruble858
    @carsonstruble858 Před 3 měsíci

    20:15 yay kitty cat

  • @FizzleFX
    @FizzleFX Před 11 měsíci

    This is basically Minesweeper :I

  • @ContainerRecords
    @ContainerRecords Před 2 lety

    Hey, am i allowed use this knowledge from this tutorial an create a german one of this ?

    • @dutchdefender422
      @dutchdefender422  Před 2 lety

      Hi there,
      Yes you can. You can even create a better English version. Just mention my name somewhere.
      I have decided that, whilst I love the analysis part, I don´t like video making/editing. So go ahead!

    • @ContainerRecords
      @ContainerRecords Před 2 lety

      @@dutchdefender422 coool thx, keep you updated

  • @anwerololo
    @anwerololo Před 4 lety

    I guess they changed hack minigame recently, i did a few 1 node away cores recently, some of my friends did it too

    • @anwerololo
      @anwerololo Před 4 lety

      Okay i read your comment below :)

  • @xyonblade
    @xyonblade Před 4 lety +1

    Why is it do you think the rule of 6 is a thing? Just that you really haven't seen anything spawn in a node connected to 6 other nodes? I'll need to keep an eye out for this.

    • @dutchdefender422
      @dutchdefender422  Před 4 lety +1

      Interesting question.
      Euhm, from a game design perspective it might feel bad to have single defense system block 6 nodes (or 5 since you opened 1 to get there). That would be my best guess.
      From a more game-mechanical perspective it is clear that connectivity has a lot of influence on the game. 2 examples are given in this video, I also know that when you spawn theres a maximum for 2 connections, and I'm sure that if we will ever "figure out" the minigame we'll find more related to connectivity.

    • @xyonblade
      @xyonblade Před 4 lety

      @@dutchdefender422 That's a good point.

  • @johndavid1708
    @johndavid1708 Před 6 měsíci

    damn i had a game where the red core what the first node after spawn the other day but i didnt screenshoted it x) if only i knew

  • @loxavorna608
    @loxavorna608 Před 7 měsíci

    Ти просто святий..

  • @brunodominguez2837
    @brunodominguez2837 Před měsícem

    This like is for the kitten 😂

  • @Billy_West
    @Billy_West Před 3 lety

    I shit you not... in 4 bubbles it was core with a wrench just before it in Null for 2.2 mill... Blew my mind..

  • @fireworkteamcybervamp8671

    Eve is al lang geen spel meer waarin korpsen als teams spelen. Iedereen is gewoon geil voor steeds meer geld of geil om kleine spelers kapot te maken. Communicatie is voor de kont. Iedereen doet zijn eigen ding, maar niets wordt gedaan als een team. En terwijl kleine spelers wat geld proberen te verzamelen, worden de spelverslaafden met hun 5 tot 10 accounts van welke duur dan ook rijker. Ik ben blij dat ik lid ben van de FuelRats in Elite Dangerous. WIJ HELPEN DE SPELERS NOG STEEDS. Wat kan alleen met geld in EVE.

  • @arnislapsa1619
    @arnislapsa1619 Před rokem

    there's also those lower HP firewalls. I tend to break them straight up - opens a lot of map and generally seems to be worth it (unless you hit restoration, suppressor in next 2 hits)

    • @arnislapsa1619
      @arnislapsa1619 Před rokem

      also - generally it's best to keep white nodes untouched (until you find the core if you need them)

    • @arnislapsa1619
      @arnislapsa1619 Před rokem

      suppressors suck the most. best target for hawkeye

    • @arnislapsa1619
      @arnislapsa1619 Před rokem

      when landing restoration, if there's other defense systems, do NOT hit the wrench as activating it counts as an additional turn (will heal up def systems)

  • @Taaz2
    @Taaz2 Před 4 lety

    Awesome information and work. Still, you should push the whole sound layer thru some normalizer and then reupload it, the voice ups and downs are barely bearable.

  • @xasanth6318
    @xasanth6318 Před rokem

    sorry what was your name again? could you please show it 5 seconds longer? ;)

  • @bladerunner6583
    @bladerunner6583 Před 2 lety

    All sounds plausible, however, map at 21:07 doesn't correspond to your "before 8" calculations - except for bottom line, that is

  • @pmcmva
    @pmcmva Před rokem

    Lot of information, appreciate the effort. Delivery was rough to listen through though. Ums and uhs really distracting. Just an observation. About to go check the midspawn vid 👍

  • @hundun5604
    @hundun5604 Před 2 lety

    If you calculate the spawn point as the 1st node, then it is before 9 and not 8. That's what the image's showing @ 6:05.
    I'm nitpicking here. It's a great guide nonetheless. Tyvm, dankjewel!

  • @emannurhakim807
    @emannurhakim807 Před 3 lety +1

    yeah the guide is nice truly.. just the audio.. hurting my head still thank you for making the guide

  • @Xf31
    @Xf31 Před 3 lety

    Nederlander?

  • @ESAPOWER
    @ESAPOWER Před 3 lety

    Man I can see you put a lot of work in here, and the information is empirical and well displayed.
    But if I hear one more mid-sentencr "Uhhhhhh..." I'm going to excise it from my brain with a fucking shotgun lol.
    Could I suggest doing these videos with a script and working on reading it in clear sentences?
    I feel so triggered lol. I genuinely can't finish the video.

  • @this.is.a.username
    @this.is.a.username Před 2 měsíci +1

    jfc this makes me hate ccp even more for that stupid minigame. should've just left hacking alone

  • @zacharygamble6208
    @zacharygamble6208 Před 3 lety +1

    the audio on this is really... really.. bad