Christopher Halliwell: ex-detective claims links to six other killings
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- čas přidán 25. 09. 2016
- A man serving life for murdering two women could be linked to six other killings, according to the former senior police officer who arrested him. Ex-detective Steve Fulcher claims Christopher Halliwell said police wanted to talk to him about eight murders. Mr Fulcher told this programme about the extraordinary moment Halliwell confessed to killing two women. But he's now questioning whether his former force did enough to examine Halliwell's potential links to other cases. Our home affairs correspondent Andy Davies reports.
This guy is a true police officer. He prioritised her right to life over his own job if that doesn't deserve respect then idk what does
It’s shameful how Wiltshire police treated Steve , he did completely the right thing . Beckys mum would never have found peace without him . Steve fulcher is a hero
Steve was shamefully treated and Halliwell can only be glad for the PACE-rules, which apparently put the rights of a murderer over the rights of the victim and their family. Disgusting.
You say that now until it affects somebody u know or love. We have rights for a reason. Do u want the cops can trample them no matter? To many people who didn’t commit crimes but got locked up for using rights. Our right to remain silent and staying silent is not an admission of guilt. Foolish thinking to want to give away ur rights for one man. What’s wrong with u people?? Ur begging for a dictator.When it happens, y’all will be crying like babies cuz u allowed ur rights to be stripped, one case at a time. I think the net is frying peoples brains. The fact ur willing to give up rights is appalling and crazy. Wow.
Well said Lorraine ❤
Policemen like Steve Fulcher with integrity, who actually want to solve a crime for the victim and the catch the criminal are as rare as hens teeth these days.
Sir, you did the right thing. Shame on everyone who claim otherwise.
From a criminal law solicitor, shame on you and others like you, who enjoy living in a free country but have no understanding, interest or respect for the reasons why.
@@paxbritannica5598 , to be a criminal law solicitor does not give you the "monopoly of knowledge and understanding" over the issue; freedom suppose changes.
Pax Britannica From a non-criminal law solicitor, shame on you for failing to grasp or respect the fact that there are exceptions to the rule.
@@Ephilates2024 exceptions to what tule? The Police and Criminal Evidence Act is absolutely clear.
@@labeate nor did I claim that it did. Just as a doctor has no monopoly on knowledge, yet you still visit one when you’re sick. What’s your point?
Hero, pure and simple. Morals and personal integrity is sadly too rare.
There has to be an exception to the rule in a real time emergency situation where life could be at stake.
Very proud of Steve Fulcher, as a former officer I feel he did everything right and acted in the highest traditions of the police service.
It seems to me, a layman, that there are far too few decent lads in the force - case in point, all the gold command throwing him to the wolves and their self-incriminating log going missing from a locked safe. As Steve says in his book, above his rank its all politics. In the army, each and every soldier from bottle washer to General, is first and foremost an infantryman. The police brass seem to have lost that.
This was my friend and without fulcher nobody would be any the wiser as to Becky's whereabouts. When people complain about the police I point them to this fellow. Bless you Becky, and Steve.
Edit: there were a lot of women that went missing in between times so not investigating a serial killer taxi driver in these cases is just pure negligence
What a brave man. Recovers two victims bodies. Bringing closure for their poor families....and he gets fired. The poor man. 💔
He didn't actually get fired, he resigned due to the stress that he had suffered. However your point is a good one.
No justice in the system this man is a hero 🕊️ rest in peace Sian and Becky 🕊️ x
Without doubt this officer did the RIGHT thing. ONE ZILLION PER CENT.
This man is a hero 🦸♂️
The rights of a murderer should not outweigh the rights of a victim or their families.
The police man have done the right thing... the taxi driver is clearly guilty... that horrible person lost his rights in the moment he killed a person...
I think there are lots and lots of us that stands behind Steve Fulcher in his desicion. 🙏
Yes, there are lots and lots of half-wits that do not understand the law. You are just one of them.
@@corydorastube just because it is written in law doesn’t mean it is right. Laws are not always good and sometimes restraint cops from achieve true justice. Now don’t get me wrong, I think every criminal deserves rights but to say their rights matter over the dead is shocking.
This guy should have been praised not condemned for what he did! 😔 #changethelaws
The Superintendent did the right thing, I imagine without doubt the family of the victims would agree.
The father of Becky Godden completely disagrees as Steve compromised the investigation and justice for his daughter, Chris Halliwell originally got off for that crime because of Fulcher breaking procedure :/
@@dudessjoddie So if you were Fulcher standing at the deposition site of Sian O'Callaghan's body and Halliwell says to you "Do you want another one?" you'd have said no would you? Cautioned him, take him back to the station where a defence solicitor will tell him to answer no comment to all questions. Becky Godden's father needs to realise that the fault here lies with the ludicrous system not one of the most dynamic police officers I've ever read about. From a retired police officer.
@@dudessjoddie But if Fulcher hadn't have done what he did. Becky would NEVER have been found, Halliwell would never have given up her location, like many others hes likely murdered.
Here here, ..”if we prioritise the right to silent over the right to life, then we are all sunk ....”
Steve Fulcher was a dam good police officer
The officer’s actions had nothing to do with the right to silence. The provisions of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act were not followed. What the suspect chose to say or not say were wholly irrelevant. He was not given any legal rights, in particular the police caution was not read to him. This is one case among hundreds of thousands. Don’t judge a whole legal system based on a biased documentary.
What would your opinion be if the suspect had not killed anybody but had mental health problems and this detective claimed he had obtained a confession? No lawyer, no mental health assessment, just a car ride and a confession. Would you support his life imprisonment?
@@paxbritannica5598 he pointed them to two bodies though
@@robjj5373 He would have done the same had he been water boarded or tortured with hot oil. What is your point?
Bravo Mr Steve Fulcher!
You truly ARE a man that deserves
RESPECT.
Clearly every situation can be handled the same way. Your experience, expertise, and intuition is far more valuable than some old obsolete policies.
Does not your reputation, as a brilliant detective, count for anything? !
I am so very sorry the department of "stuffed shirts" had not regarded you as the true HERO you are.
Warm regards, Joan
This man is a hero. I can't believe Justice Laura Cox let a murderer go free and took 5 years off his sentence. What a disgraceful decision.
I am glad that one man in the world has done right.Regardless of everything.Now we know how the criminals are protected rather than victims.
Finished his book recently and have been left absolutely disgusted with how he was treated by the legal system and the Pommy Police. Halliwell is a piece of shit yet he was given more rights than Sian, Becky and Steve....What is going on? The QC Latham should have been disbarred for stupidity! How could he have had any sympathy for Halliwell and none for his victims.
This makes me feel sick, he should be given a knighthood!
Just watched ‘A Confession’ on itv. Fantastic programme with Martin Freeman starting as Steve Fulcher.
I’m damn sure Fulcher would do exactly the same all over again. Back at the nick twisted Halliwell would never have opened up. And he’d be walking the streets in 25 years. Hats off to you Steve, sometimes the rules are there to be broken in my opinion. RIP Sian & Becky.
He is a hero .Shame on the police department for treating him this way .
There needs to be room for common sense in the law. Wiltshire is less safe without this guy working.
“Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.” ― Albert Einstein.
He was very badly treated by the police and judicial system - but the real world, every decent, moral person in the entire country is totally in support of him. He did the right thing. The PACE law is outdated and became more important to the heads of Swindon police than the recovery of two girls and justice for their families. Shameful.
For context, when DSI Fulcher asked two of his colleagues what they would have done in his position. One of them said I would have lied and said I'd cautioned him (perjury) and another said I'd have stuck to PACE (potentially allowing a girl to die). Yet Fulcher discharged his duties as a police officer and got hammered for it.
I think at some point people have to make a decision between the "letter of the law" versus the "spirit of the law" As far as I am concerned, the law is trying to prevent the abuse of authority, but Halliwell was not abused in any way. He volunteered the information already knowing his rights because it wasn't his first rodeo even of that day.
Serial killers are subject to no rules. Your honour, is it not more important that bodies of victims are found and not subjecting families and loved ones to further pain and suffering? And the body-count is very likely in the double-digits. Killings are believed to date back at least as far as 1995.
Who come and search for this after watching ITV tv series ‘A Confession’
He broke the rules, but the rules were wrong.
A good honourable man - very sad the way he was treated. Totally understand that he didn't follow the PACE rule but if he hadnt then those 2 poor families probably would have never have known what happened to those tragic girls...
The problem with rules like these is that there is a gray area that can be used as a loophole. Many laws in the US and the UK prevent true justice.
A hero, thank you for bringing back those girls to their families
Disgraceful how this officer was treated …and I bet there are other victims !
Good sir, I have the utmost respect for you. ❤️
A Fantastic Detective who did the right thing without doubt.
If he didn’t the man may have not even confessed in the first place, yet he broke some stupid rule, did the judge not realise that he caught a murderer 🤷🏻♂️
Having followed this story via the TV program it now seems in UK that offenders are given preferential treatment over victims. This has to change. It's obvious that the police higher authority and the legal profession should bare the blame for victims unaccounted for. They should hang their heads in shame and be brought to account. Thank goodness this TV program opened the public's eyes to the incompetence witnessed in this inquiry.
WELL SAID,IT'S A FUCKING JOKE.THIS MAN SHOULD BE COMPENSATED, AND AWARDED FOR HIS WORK.
Just read Stephen Fulcher's book "Catching a Serial Killer" and it made my blood boil the way Stephen Fulcher was treated for doing a very difficult job of catching Christopher Halliwell. Only wish the police were more like "Life on Mars" back in the good old days where coppers were coppers and did what they need to do to convict those guilty.
Which included all kinds of underhand tricks which led to false confessions and people being sent to prison for years for crimes they did not commit. In "the good old days" you had the completely innocent Stefan Kiszko going away for 16 years for the murder of Lesley Molseed while her real killer evades justice for 30 years. As I said above, we should think very carefully before demanding changes to the law, which would make it easier for the police to abuse their power and get convictions.
I don't think anyone wants a return to the policing depicted in "Life on Mars" (if it ever was like that in reality). But Steve Fulcher was so obviously not like that. Due to his hard work, a killer was caught, two women were given a proper burial, two families discovered the true fate of their daughters, and further women were safeguarded. There comes a time when common sense has to prevail. Steve Fulcher was, in one sense, treated worse than the killer he caught.
@@supergran1000 Yes. Steve Fulcher is a good man and I can quite understand why he acted as he did. My only point is that changing rules in how suspects are dealt with needs to be done with great care, otherwise you could end up with abuses by less honourable police officers.
I get your point, of course. But the PACE law is man-made and not divine. As such, it's potentially flawed and subject, as all laws are, to revision.
ukchristian28 JA You make a decent point in the aggregate but are you taking into account the particular situation? By all accounts, Fulcher applied a high professional standard of discretion. Yet, he was crucified for it. But for Fulcher, Halliwell would still be murdering women. There is more than one big picture here. Yours is the smaller of the two.
You can’t buck the system, it might lead to some of those in powerful positions being caught, for this reason the guilty are handed the get out of gaol card of right to silence, hence the the criminal fraternity use of no comment in interviews with hard working detectives whose hands are tied by bogus protocols. Well done the detective in this case, should have got a medal, instead he was reprimanded by the weak hierarchy who put their own careers ahead of the fight for right, and justice for victims and their families.
CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THERE PENSION, CAN THEY! HOW DO THESE BASTARD"s SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING WHAT THEY HAVE DONE,,SORRY OR SHOULD I SAY HAVE NOT DONE.
Yes totally agree Steve did the right thing. He didn't put him under any kind of pressure. No torture no abuse. The Police are shocking. Political. Good luck steve stay with us.
Good job ... your a hero
First class detective...
If only all cops were like Mr fulcher he have should been given a fucking knighthood for his work on this case instead of losing his job
Good job detective f the judge .
But what about the other possible eight victims, Wiltshire Police desite what they said are doing NOTHING to help the families of those.
systems so messed up....
Wow, well done man, right decision for the victims and families.
People like the solicitor of the Halliwell creature disgust me, as well as Fulcher's chain of command. I wonder if they would have still hung out Fulcher to dry if Halliwell had snatched and killed one of their daughters/sisters....
The solicitor had his job to do. He has to represent the interests of his client, and if you were ever accused of a crime, you would be glad of his services.
Awesome detective always !
Steve you have our complete backing & our love & respect, you did the right thing by the innocent victim & not her murderer.
I don’t understand why the system is always on the side of the perpetrators, allowing the victims to be victimized all over again. Why is reading the rights more important than putting a violent, murderous criminal behind bars and solving murders? Why is bureaucratic procedure and red tape prioritized over helping victims? Why is our society so warped that covering our asses for procedure is more important than anything else. And why do murderers and other villains get off easier than their victims?
I saw the documentary on Netflix. Was so upset that life is less important than a rule 😮😮
The rules maybe really good in many cases but professional police officers should be trusted to find ways to find the truth and not violate prisoners rights
I'm British and this disgusts me . The man's a hero 👏
He shouldn’t have resigned
bravo sir, some rules are stupid.
He would never of spoken let alone admitted to where either of them were & their families would never gotten closure. I believe he has others.
I am watching the story of this on itv and I totally agree what he did my dad was a police officer for over 25 yrs and he would of I think done the same
We need more coppers like Steve Fulcher , good men need our support.
This is a natural police. Reminds me of Freamon and Daniels in The Wire. In a bureaucratic system that cares only about its own bureaucratic power, the people who want to do the right things, in this case to do real police work, will be out sooner or later. They are the tragic heroes of our time.
More human remains have just been found near a small village on the outskirts of Swindon. Police have cordoned off the area for a further 6 weeks to search/dig. Speculation has it, it could be linked to Halliwell. Whether that’s because police have been questioning him leading them to those remains, or he is suspect number one because of his previous crimes?
Fulcher is a hero. A true man and a true police officer, not many of these around anymore. Funny that.
I tell you what if my daughter, myself or anyone close to me was taken this is the copper id want on the case. Not like the chocolate teapots in the force today.
The british police force has become so woke, with such low standards to join its become the laughing stock of the country.
Poor guy! Common sense and instinct isn't so common in policing anymore! It's all about murderers' rights!!!
This Man is an Angel! His fast forward thinking action. Gave the familys there loved ones back. He sacrificed his career for the families.I don't think any member of the public would want this man to lose his job.
This is awful. Every double murderer has the right to silence just in case they tell the truth and end up self incriminating.
Steve Fulcher is a hero of a cop - honest as the day is long...he also looks like a cross between peter jones and some other bloke - the combination of which would result in steve fulcher
tiarnan Nigel farrage
@@sophiahudson-ingham3011 haha thats exactly it - hes the love child of peter jones + nigel farage :)
Christopher deserves an apology and should expect the case to re open to find any further killings. Immediately.
Did the killer ever say... why he did it?
A good detective
He did the right thing.
I’m not a fan of the feds .
But this guy I truly got heart 💓 for.
Sorry man .
They really did you wrong.
Steve Fulcher is a hero. It is a complete travesty that he was victimised for doing the right thing. The world has indeed gone mad.
Sometimes the letter of the law isn’t enough to bring justice to the extremes of real life. This is why juries are so important and it should not be left to individual judges to adjudicate right and wrong in such matters
Just watch " A Confession" mind blowing and the cop was hanged out to dry if it wasn't for him they probably would never of found poor becky
He did the right thing, i understand for theft or things like that but cases of missing people the rule book should be thrown out
My pocket notebook would have read that I cautioned him. Too honest. Top cop though.
Having read the compelling book I think that Stephen Fulcher should be given his police pension forthwith, he should receive the QPM. Family court judges should not sit in important criminal trials concerning which they have little or no experience. IPCC investigators should know all the background policies involved in investigations. Police discipline board members should be from the real world. Reminded me of reading "Stalker". Fulcher = Legend. Finest piece of police work that I have ever heard about. From an ex-D.
He was a clever cop, and a true detective to even obtain that info from C Halliwell.
It's a difficult one. In this case it led to the discovery of the bodies. You can't say where the bodies are at if you're not guilty.
He did not have to confess. He chose to confess.
hung out to dry and made a scapegoat, plain and simple
Police who don’t follow procedure must face disciplinary action
I wonder where he is now. I hope he is living a good life. Better than what he would have had in the police. He certainly deserves it for being a decent man ..
with all the scum the police have in their ranks they sack an officer like steve fulcher who has brought to an end two families heartaches and i think along with steve that hes done more,this guy needs deep interrogation
Детектив - красавчик. На таких людях ещё и держится общество. Надеюсь, что сейчас у него всё хорошо и он понимает, что поступил правильно и все адекватные люди его поддерживают.
Halliwell is a suspect in a murder case in 1985 when he would of been about 20 years old but was jailed for life in 2012. Claudia Lawrence, Marie Wilks, Melanie Hall, Julie Finley, Carol Clark, Jackie Waines, Yvonne Fitt. Could all be Halliwell's victims and many more. Look at the suspect/picture of the guy wanted in connection to Marie Wilk's murder in 1988 at Wales Online. It looks just like Halliwell in his early 20's. Halliwell's dad lived close to Claudia Lawrence in York. But before that Halliwell's dad lived near Huddersfield, not far from where Yvonne Fitt was killed. The police should investigate Halliwell's dad's previous homes/gardens. I believe Steve Fulcher, I think Halliwell killed many more women over a 30 year time period. All over the UK. When Halliwell basically said in his police interview, "I'll give you what you want but it ends here I don't want you coming back investigating me for more murders" it seems to me he was admitting he had killed several more women. He couldn't even remember which year he killed Becky. That seems to suggest that Halliwell was killing women all through those years as well. And the 60 items of women's clothing found buried close to where Sian's boot was found, all points to Halliwell. Police Forces all over the UK should team up and try hard to find out just how many women Halliwell actually murdered.
Just hope Wiltshire have a guilty consequences on this case steve you have and did the right thing . You have my family's backing my niece was found dead in suspicious circumstances so well done to you Steve and thanks for doing your job well ....Wiltshire constabulary hold heads in shame.more police like Steve proper policemen and women officers.
I’d be interested to know the date of the death of his mother, as 2 of the girls he murdered were on the 19th of March
Linda razell also missing 19th March from Swindon body never found but husband charged with her murder (though has always denied it and no forensic evidence??!!) this halliwell needs to be investigated for these other murders!!!!
Ok i hate police breaking rules,but for murder ov a girl leaving out tellin him his rights was justified! N he played that infraction as close to the line as poss,bravo i say,but only in extreme cases!!
The man done the right thing if he didn’t do what he did Becky would be in that field to this day
The thing that strikes me about Halloween is how conversant he is as if he frequently talks to people. My guess at why he looks so elusive is that he is part of an online group.
He you did the right thing hè is in jail where he belong the sob🤮
How backward is the system
It's a tough call. Since I would think everyone on this forum has never been accused of a serious crime and was actually innocent, I have but it wasn't murder, then you wouldn't see the point in these rules. The USA is full of prisons with people who have been tortured into confessing but were actually innocent. In this case the guy actually was guilty but that isn't always true. I was accused of trafficking drugs, but I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I was eventually exonerated but it took years. I did spend time in jail and I will never get that back. There is a legitimate reason these rules are in place. So did he do the just thing? Maybe, did he do the right thing? No he actually risked this person going free because of his breach of protocol. So again tough call, he did what he felt he had to do and paid the price.
Halliwell is also responsible for Julie Finley
He💯%did the right thing~Wiltshire police💯%did the wrong thing regarding this officer.Maybe instead of going after this detective the rules should be changed to protect not only the guilty but the victims and their rights and the rights of the victims families and friends.This detective was treated disgustingly by the police force.
GOOD police officer he right things need to change in fact lots of things need to change . I know if becky was my daughter i would be grateful to find her eight years is a long time . God bless her. Repect to family.
The police are not interested in solving working girls missing cases, this guy had an obvious mo, plenty missing lassies from his area and there about.
He is my hero,
World will be much better place to live,if there are more people like him.
I was impressed
Wit tv serial as well,specially with
Martin Freeman,
And others are excellent.
It is hard,sorry for crime happened,but
With his afford,
Justice has been served.
Halliwell’s attorney strives to free a man that had the potential to take his loved one’s life, which the criminal would freely do if he crossed paths with them. Notice how the attorney never views his duty based on that perspective. I just watched a documentary on this case and I am at a loss. What did the officer do wrong?
It’s quite complicated but there is a piece of legislation called PACE (police and criminal evidence act), part of it, I think it’s code C but I might be wrong essentially states, and I am paraphrasing, that when someone is arrested, they are to be cautioned (read their rights) and then taken back to the police station in order to obtain legal advice and be interviewed under caution. What Steve did was he prioritised Becky Godden as he believed she may still be alive so didn’t caution Halliwell as he believed, and I think he would have been dead right, that when Hailliwell was interviewed with a solicitor, he would have said no comment to all questions.
I'm pretty certain I had a "run in" with this killer in approx 2003, In Stroud (I think) Nr Bristol at around 7am in a very weird road rage incindent. Basically I was followed by a guy off the double roundabout to my client while our repping, he was raging, giving me v signs etc and following. He was driving a white small Van, maybe a ford scort mk3. I managed to give him the slip to a clients, pulled up at the clients and as I got samples of the car boot he pulled up on the road shouting at me. I had done nothing wrong, but he was off this planet vexed, as he is shouting, I said "Well I'm sorry pal if you think I did something wrong". He then got out and said "right that's it", slamming his door and started charging toward me. Fearing for my well being, I looked in my boot, my golf set happened to be there, so I whipped out the No1 Driver and said "Keep coming and ill wrap this around you're head, or turn around and F off". He took the latter choice. It was really really weird as when I entered the double roundabout I had to give way to the right, he was obviously coming down the hill to the roundabout at speed from the left, because as I exited the second roundabout he was right behind me waving his arms around shouting. I had done nothing wrong, plus it was very early am, in the winter (Jan/feb) with no cars around. I was certain yrs later it was this guy...! I was only in my mid 20s.