PILOT INCAPACITATED. Off-duty pilot helps to land Southwest B737. REAL ATC
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2023
- 22 MARCH 2023.
A Southwest Airlines Boeing 737-700 registration N7855A, performing flight SWA6013 from Las Vegas Harry Reid International Airport (KLAS) to John Glenn Columbus International Airport (KCMH).
Was about 160 miles north-east of Las Vegas at FL370 when the first officer turned the airplane around and decide to return to the airport of departure.
Later first officer reported captain incapacitation and declared medical emergency.
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I worked for SWA for 20 years and I just wanted to say how proud I am of this FO! A lot of people couldn’t handle doing everything this guy did! Kudos to you sir! I’m proud of you and everyone on board for helping the Captain!! ✈️✈️✈️
Yet all first officers are capable of flying the plane as much as the captain is
They bloody well should be able to or they shouldn't be on the flight deck. Pilot incapacitation is something they train for.
@@pilot41186 I know they made a big deal of nothing as if a passenger came up and landed the plane. What a waste of my time.
@@michaelslater6839 Ted Stryker was there but unavailable. He'd also had fish for dinner.
@@billolsen4360 Boy Bill that brings back some memories of the “Good old days”.
I hope this captain recovered perfectly.
I am always impressed by the calm and professional manner in which 99% of pilots and controllers display when in sticky situations. Reminds me of my military days. That’s good training.
i guess one of the first things you learn is that panic has never ever helped in a single incident when something went wrong. if you lose your cool, you die. only ratio can save you up there.
Kudos to the FO for remaining so calm and composed throughout this situation, and a big shout out to the deadheading pilot for jumping in to help out!
A little context:
Ive read elsewhere, that the off-duty pilot was actually a fully qualified and certified pilot, but for another airline, who was flying as a passenger. Kudos to both him and the 1st officer for the handling of this - and for the off-duty pilot getting the callsign for a different airline right every time!
Also, apparently the reason, that the plane needed to be tugged into the gate, is, that its only the captain's side, who can do that (something about the nosewheel stearing, if I remember correctly), and the off-duty pilot had ofc sat there, and being from a different airline he wasnt allowed to do it. One could argue, that in an emergency he was certainly qualified to do it, and if it could get quicker help to the captain, maybe they shouldve broken the rules, but I assume, since the FO earlier stated, that the captain was alert and with a doctor, that they felt, it was ok.
And on a personal note, Southwest might not have the best reputation, but this is the kind of FO, I would want in an emergency!
None of the Southwest issues have to do with the flight crews.
You could argue that the rules are out of the window in an emergency, but you could also argue that from the moment the plane was standing on the ground, it was faster to get paramedics to the plane than vice versa. The best way to deal with the emergency (which was purely medical at this point) was to get the Captain the medical attention he needed asap, therefore the crew made the right call not to taxi to the gate but instead have a much faster paramedics vehicle come to them.
Kudos to the crew. As far as I can tell they did an outstanding job.
FO?
@@K1OIK Not what you'd think. FO is short for First Officer. We want him to stay on the flight deck, not to "FO" ;)
@@klausbellroth5451 I wonder what he did with the time he saved not typing irst fficer?
THIS is exactly how any flyer hopes a flight crew would be. So calm, very confident, not at all cocky. Hoping the pilot recovered fully. I love Southwest.
Extremely professional and courteous. The FO knew what he had to do: land the plane ASAP and get medical to the captain. God Bless. Hope the PIC is doing well tonight.
This is some of the clearest and efficient comms I've heard in ATC youtubes. Both the pilot/s and the controllers speak clearly (unlike so many) and anticipate what info the other needs.
The best emergency radio communications by a boss of a pilot. Souls, fuel, without being asked. Also, pilot decided on the runway and fix he wants, and just commanded the whole scenario.
FO sounds like he eats flight emergencies for breakfast
Yes very chilled calm collected and let’s do this. I have actually seen a couple of these and funnily enough the FO has been just the same on each of them! One of them was horrendous as the FO was communicating all the time it was a medical,emergency the captain had a heart attack and at no time was it communicated back to him even when he requested several times to have paramedics at the gate! Absolutely no feed back it was insane! And of course the paramedics weren’t there to meet them! The captain owes his life to the 2 Drs being onboard (1 being a heart surgeon) and an ER nurse. The definitely would be dead otherwise!
Very proud of the pilots and air traffic control who are calm and collective during emergencies.
40 is too young! So young!! But obviously driven and ambitious.
Already first officer at 40 , nice. He will be ok , too young to have any serious problems I hope to god that he’s blessed with another chance at life ❤❤❤
That off-duty pilot deserves a big bonus!
Southwest Airlines awarded him with a free one-way ticket to Newark! Wait, they get free flights already. Hmmm.
@@billolsen4360 I think the pilot was from Net Jets, not SWA. Either way nice to have some sort of backup. All planes are relatively the same when it comes to radio frequencies and mic clicking.
INDEED❣️🙏🙌🙌
@@billolsen4360 A one way ticket to EWR sounds more like punishment than a reward for a job well done! Lolz!
@@alexm3081 That information really adds to the story, as NetJets flies smaller private jets. They also fly into the club where I work very frequently, so it's interesting to me on a personal level, as I am often in contact with NetJets personnel.
Pilots are trained for these emergency's all the time! As a ex-commercial pilot too, he did a great job! 26 Right is closer to the gates at LV, so faster time to get help.
I got pretty emotional listening to that. Outstanding job by everyone.
I actually teared up listen to this, what a awsome team you all was on this! More people like you guys and the world would be just fine.
It's high duty for first officer...great job
Great job to get him back. But it beg’s the question about airlines who want to move to one pilot only in the cockpit? Two is the minimum for safety surely?
When it comes to a choice between safety and the bottom line, guess which one usually wins.
I’ll guess an airline would choose safety over the bottom line. Otherwise, airlines would have switched to one-pilot only flights a long time ago…right?
Ceo's only see $$$. Dumbest idea I have heard of since my first flight in 1965. Two pilots minimum. This episode proves it. Excellent job to all concerned.
@@sheilasullivan1950One pilot in the cockpit increases the flight safety risk considerably. A pilot may get incapacitated as in this case or they may get slightly ill, as in lightheaded. This could affect his/her decision making. How can we let a single person hold hundreds of lives in their hands without a backup plan? Yes the CEOs only understand $$$ but if the accidents increase and they will, their payout will be much higher than any salary savings.
Absolutely. A plane itself has “back ups to the back ups” and that’s what makes it so safe to fly. Having a back up pilot essentially jus makes sense to me. Going down to one would cause a uptick in accidents for sure.
Great 1st officers cockpit management, well done South West Airlines.
When I was flying as a passenger in the cabin, I would always hand the Lead Flight Attendant my company business card with my type ratings on it to give to the cockpit crew for an event such as this. My procedure as the captain, in the event of an incapacitated crew or passenger was to ask for an EMT, a nurse and then a doctor in that order. In 30 years, I only diverted twice. I have had PhD's vs. MD's volunteer. Yup!
As a pre-hospital nurse and first responder myself, the ideal order would be a Critical Care Doctor -> ALS Paramedic -> Critical Care Nurse -> Acute Care Doctors/Nurses/EMTs -> Subacute Nurses/Doctors/First Responders.
@@Anonymous551656 Honestly any doctor who regularly manages rapid responses/pre-ICU floor care/codes etc. is great to start with, along with ALS and pre-hospital RN's. Just anyone who regularly thinks about acute medical presentations on a regular basis.
It's the rest of us outpatient subspecialists and niche hospital specialists who dread the medical personnel requests who go on the bottom of the list.
Yeah, I could just see that PA...
"Uh ladies and gentlemen, do we have any critical care doctors on board? No? How about an ALS paramedic? Still no huh. Great. Okay, then how about.... Oh put your hand down back there, you're just an EMT, stop trying to be a hero, I haven't gotten to you yet on the list."
@@Anonymous551656lol. It’s been proven time and time again that the best prehospital care starts with EMT/Paramedic because that’s their actual specialty. The higher they get, they more they try to overcomplicate it and make dumb decisions versus efficient actions in that environment
@@PasDeMDYup! My friend that's an anesthesiologist responded to a doctor call recently. I'd rather him vs a foot dr. 😂
Very professional gentleman ! Impressive -
I love SWA.....The best around, fly 'em all the time.....
My son is a pilot for SW and is based out of Las Vegas. Going to ask if he’s heard about this.
Wow, I am an uninitiated here and know nothing of voice procedure or conventions. there were quite a few people involved in all this. Everyone made it sound like they have practiced this very situation, so smooth. Total professionals, everyone, especially the Pilot God Bless him. Everyone had a hand in saving the ill Captains life, hope he was OK in the end. Very impressed here. THANKYOU :)
Part of the SWA family....our pilots rock as well as our FAs ❤️💛💙
Amazing job and cooperation between pilot and controllers.
IMO the FO was outstanding.
What a sharp FO.
FO?
@@K1OIK First Officer=FO
So many vids of negative interactions; very nice to see cooperation and professionalism in action.
The epitome of professional 👏👏👏
This right here is amazing teamwork!!!
I fly a lot and every day and every flight is different. Somedays SWA is great other days it's just okay. Same with American, Delta, Allegiant, etc. and some days no matter the carrier it's just as awful as it can be. I totally commend the professionalism of the two guys who safely landed the plane with no loss of life.
Awesome job to this crew! Berry well handled. I hope the Captain is recovering well.
Love the new graphics! Great job guys!
Great job thank you ❤❤❤
I hope the captain made a full recovery.
You can't unvaccinate unfortunately.
@@JohnDoe-sg1pd the comment you made shows your pure ignorance
@@JohnDoe-sg1pd said the anti science guy who will ultimately rely on science to save his john doe life some day , meanwhile living in denial and hastening the process …
@@JohnDoe-sg1pd what a moronic comment😩
@@robertdillon9989 Every person I know, that has got a jab of some kind, has medical issues. Every person I know, that has NOT got a jab, is doing fine. And the non-jabbed includes me. Oh and, with cancer and chemo and radiation, and heart issues, and breathing issues, and diabetes, and going out in public to the VA hospital four and fives times a week... I supposedly shouldn't have lasted a month before dying of the cough. It is YOUR so-called "science" that is faulty sweetie pie. Add to that, they have already cancelled out one jab's certification... and are looking into ALL of them. Came out way too soon, and totally untested. You are the lab rat buddy boy. Good luck with that.
Good thing the FO apparently wasnt a recent checkout and that it wasnt IMC.
Navigator was *professional*. Saved a life that day.
The FO was freaking awesome here! Wow.
Great job.
Comforting to know that cool heads take over when emergent situations like this occur.
Fly SWA as often as possible, little or no complaints.
Don't understand certain snarky comments.
I agree.. Midway to Tucson and always a good flight and people.
It’s just that so many people in this day and age are so very unpleasant..I don’t know why..It must be something in the water ….or beer…totally uncalled for…..and very sad.
@@iap-ug3oy Everyone is in victim mode... and just looking for an excuse to be one.
I appreciate the professionalism of the flight crews but for about the same fare I can get assigned seats on Alaska Air and don’t have to deal with the most awful passengers. It’s a shame. We flew SW for years.
I want this guy to be my pilot!!
SW has great pilots + FO's.
Impressive!
I am an ER Dr and was a passenger on a southwest flight to Florida. I was called upon to check out a vert ill woman who was barely conscious on the floor who needed emergency care. I was appalled that the idiot “medical” person on the ground, having never seen the patient nor bothered to talk with me, overrode my request and refused to authorize the pilots to land early. Having practiced my specialty for 30 years, I know an emergency when I see one. The care this woman received was criminal imo. I should have taken this matter to the highest level and I’m mad at myself for not pursuing that course of action.
But are you pushing poison onto people on a daily basis while thinking you’re doing good?
What is this doc? Abdominal pain turn unconscious...abd aortic dissection?
As far as "medical" personnel on the ground, uh, that would be a low level dispatcher...
@@scottsmith7051 Could be anything. Possibly even appendicitis.
@@scottsmith7051I don’t think he had an abdominal aortic dissection had that been the case he wouldn’t be conscious and a code blue.
@@scottsmith7051 they have on call medical staff to assist with decision making. its not just a dispatcher
Amazing FO. His handling and communication is Professional!
that sounds very professional
any update on the health of the captain?
is the captain ok? he should be proud to have such clam professional first officer with him
Great job f.o
Pretty sure that FO got a promotion after this. Outstanding.
They have two pilots for a reason. This really isnt a big deal. Only worry is for the captain.
Well done by all.
I kept wondering why they were going to stop there and get tugged into the gate. Then I remembered the captain has the steering wheel thingy.
So? What ever happened to the Pilot? Usually they say in a text at the end of the video, as it fades out, that so so was reported to be okay and in recovery, or to some extent? But I didn't see that. Did he make it? Stomach issues and sever pain might sound like a minor concer, but there are a few different sudden stomach ailments which if not treated soon enough, could be lethal.
SO? just wondering if he made it!
Kudos to the off duty pilot, and FO. Idk who that was handling comms with ATC, but good job to both.
A SWA source said the captain had appendicitis.
Sounds fishy 🤔
Pilot incapacitation can happen to anybody at any time. Let's be careful out there! Audience wishes survivors all the best. Cheers!
This is why they have two pilots. Nobody was every in danger.
There used to be 3. If both are incapacitated then you’re 😩
Alot of folks play flight Sims. No need to worry
I am guessing from the comments that we are to assume that the off-duty pilot is found somewhere along the way and joins in? No mention of when exactly this happens.
When the deeper voice using Southwest 6013 callsign is heard. I'm assuming that is the time he joined the badass First Officer
Me, too.
I felt a great disturbance in the Force. As if a million wanna-be flight-sim jocks all cried out in anguish "I totes coulda done that!" And were silenced (probably by real pilots telling them to shut up) 😆
A follow up to the captains condition post transport to hospital would have completed the narrative.
Cool, but I was tirned away at 0:23.
😁
SW’s next Capt👍
So I assume the thumbnail is not of this aircraft then, since it sounds like they didn't deploy the slides?
I heard this on the news.
I played Ace Comat for 15 years and even played some flight simulators at my high school a couple times. Really proud of my fellow aviators.
I am sort of missing something here...at what point is the off-duty pilot involved? "Off-duty pilot helps to land....." I re-listened and followed along with the transcript. Can someone give me a time check as to when that other pilot comes into the picture? Thanks.
I'm getting to like this channel, but when you draw the "colour bar" showing where the plane has been, you should probably use the green colour for indicating level flying, but switch to the red colour for descent (maybe orange for mild descent) and switch to blue when indicating a climb. In other words, use the colours of the rainbow to indicate change in altitude. You could, instead, use the colour to indicate absolute altitude instead of change in altitude, but I don't think that would be as helpful. In general, green means good so it's probably the right choice for no change in altitude. Another alternative would be to use coloured dots along the flight path to indicate change in altitude. That might work also.
0:42 Ok, what is CHOWW now? 😂 I was just asking on another video what GRITT stands for too. And PRINO and CONDY??? The longer I watch the more acronyms I don’t know the meaning of….
Waypoints in the air that pilots navigate to.
I swear CMH is the second most featured airport on here after JFK.
They really should have two extra pilots on extremely long trips anyway
Well done. 👍😎✈️
Did the captain recover?
Did the captain recover? Job well done
Yes. Appendix.
What’s crazy is that such a small fraction of these “pilot incapacitations” actually make it public.
There is huge increase and we all know why
@@biggils8894 do we?
@@biggils8894 yup. Have you heard of US freedom flyers? I met them at sun n fun. Amazing group of people.
@@paulsi1234 Blood clots and other incapacitating toxins from the Trump Operation Warp Speed bioweapon. The side effects were published by Pfizer as early as October 2020.
@@biggils8894 why?
When did the off duty pilot join the FO in the cockpit? I missed that.
Probably around 4.45 in the video. After that the pilot handling the ground conversation uses the callsign "Southwest six zero one three". Before that it's "Southwest sixty-thirteen".
At around 04:59 the voice changes and is deeper and the call sign changes to 6-0-1-3 instead of 60-13. Then at around 7:30 it changes back to the SWA FO. The workload increases during approach and landing preparing the aircraft to land and comms and calculations needed for speed, runway length, fuel, weight, etc
Clot shots are killing pilots in huge number during flight when it would normally be very rare.
Having Covid - not the vax - is what increases risk for heart attacks, strokes, and brain bleeds.
turned*
Interesting.
I was a military pilot and we used "decimal" rather than "point" when reading back frequencies.
Well this ain’t the military
JO 7110.65aa it's point in the USA, Canada is decimal. Military, not surprised it's different. Check wheels down 😂
Pretty sure that stuff is just technique. I’m in flight training for the Air Force rn and I’ve heard it said both ways without any correction one way or another
Well, what happened to the captain? Are they ok?
Wow, you mean a fully qualified, current pilot, flew an aircraft and landed it. South West must be so proud!!!!!!
Yeah. Alot of people don't understand FO is just a slightly less experienced pilot.
What happens to pilots that have midair illnesses? Are they allowed to fly again if a doctor clears them or is it a more involved procedure to get back in the air?
If it's a stroke, seizure or a heart attack, I don't think they're allowed to fly again.
They lose their medical if the health issues involve the brain and the heart. You need to be physically and mentally fit to fly and anything that damages either is a no go from the FAA.
It's possible the FO didn't have enough training to switch to the captains seat and use the tiller for steering on the ground. I'm sure the other pilot and the FO talked about going to the gate or stopping on the runway, taxiway, etc.
The flight controls are duplicated on both sides. FO would have had his own rudder pedals. My best guess is that they weren't familiar enough with that airport to be sure of finding their way on the ground.
@@sturmovik1274 Rudder pedals have nothing to do with the nose wheel steering.
@@Boodieman72 Yeah, my mistake
Quicker time to the ambulance. No need to run through the airport. Down the stairs and into the ambulance.
@@vicf6509 Makes sense
Who was handling the radio? The FO or the passenger-pilot?
FO
The passenger pilot.
The FO util about 4.45 in the video. After that the off duty pilot obviously took over the radio.
Passenger-pilot on the short coms (like flight level chang). FO on the longer discussions.
What was the outcome for the pilot? Hopefully he recovered, but what about his career?
Also, great work by the FO and all the others in helping to get the plane back on the ground to help one person who needed it the most!
No idea what happened. From CNN:
A nurse who was also on board helped care for the pilot, the airline said, without releasing further details on the pilot’s condition.
“The captain became incapacitated while enroute. He’s in the back of the aircraft right now with a flight attendant, but we need to get him on an ambulance immediately,” a member of the flight crew is heard saying in air traffic control audio from LiveATC
Although a comment I saw said the pilot had appendicitis. Take with a grain of salt
His career is likely over ;( FAA does not play around with incapacitation
Always should be a copilot?
So what ever became of the pilot that fell ill?
Appendectomy. Recovered.
Why couldn’t they taxi to the gate?
Once they shut engines down they get towed. (They stopped on the runway to get Ambulance to plane faster.)
So did the captain survive?
Yes. Appendix.
I would hazard a guess from the symptoms. Kidney Stone.
I’ve lost count after my 30th stone! They’re nasty little buggers!
Could be gall stones. Had my gallbladder removed for that reason. I had a stone stuck in the portal vein to my liver! Horrible pain in my stomach and back! I’m so used to pain that I can push through most anything. I’m adopted and my birth mother had no prenatal care leaving me with tons of medical issues.
@@JulieR73 gallstones are caused by a low-fat diet and a deficiency of saturated fat.
The first thping on my mind was the appendicitis 😅
Appendix.
Don't understand why the didn't have the stairs ready before he arrived
How would they know where he was going to stop? They can't know specifically where he will be stopping the plane, so they have stairs nearby that can be moved to the plane when it stops.
They didn't want to offend anyone by being early
Knowing where Nellis AFB in relationship to Vegas, Wonder what they were doing during all this
icy cool in life threatening sit.
Are flight attendants trained as EMT's ?
Flight Attendants are not trained for certification as EMTs, however we do go through extensive medical training while in the academy. We are trained to perform first aid as well as CPR, and permitted to use certain medical equipment that is kept onboard in the event of an emergency, such as an AED and oxygen. However, only certified/licensed medical personnel (EMT, nurse, MD) are legally permitted to give injections, start IVs, or use any of the medication or other controlled items which are kept in a locked and secured location onboard the aircraft. Thus the need to ask for assistance from any medically trained and licensed personnel who are on the flight.
@@deaogata7250 Actually, with an EMT you have to define it further. EMT I - mo meds, just O2. These days they might be able to use an AED. ---- EMT II can start IV's EMT - III - paramedics - drugs and defibrillator. They have much more experience in the wild field than the GP's that are giving orders. Watch them "smoke." ---- So, it appears that every time a pilot goes down they leave the body in the seat and let it rot. ----- On a passenger flight, you could get a couple of football players to get the pilot out, and onto the galley deck where there is room to work. ( If that bothers the psychotically paranoid, put the air marshal on the squad. The steward(ess) knows which head has a gun under it.) They need to get their priorities straight.------ Emergency care would not interfere with the co-pilot's job. This would actually give the co-pilot a chance to get into the command seat.
Wow! He’s flying, on the radio and doing approach! This is very impressive. And sounds totally calm! Wow!!!! I cannot believe with all the only in Las Vegas, that control does not have better radios????
Can you possibly fly this plane and land it?
Surely you can't be serious.
I am. Don't call be Shirley
Maybe he ate the fish.
Roger, Huh?
You have clearance Clarence
The plane is a pretty one! It’s red and white with wheels and looks like a big Tylenol!
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue
i heard it was a netjets captain that came up and helped out. Good Job!!
That's really cool! I deal with NetJets in my job frequently. I wish they put this information out publicly, as it adds to the story. NetJets flies smaller private jets, so this story was even more interesting with that added info.
@@lauraelliott6909 737 or a small business jet. they're all the same.
Why couldn't he just taxi the plane in!? Nothing wrong with the plane.
Once engines shut down, they get towed. Totally worth it to get Ambulance to plane faster.
Anything for the " RICH " to get " RICHER " ‼️‼️‼️
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