Baka Mitai Actually Slaps Though

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  • čas přidán 18. 10. 2020
  • If Baka Mitai didn't get permanently stuck in your head after hearing it, I don't know what to tell you. I don't think we can be friends.
    English translated lyrics from: yakuza.fandom.com/wiki/Bakamitai
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  • @sunnyd1722
    @sunnyd1722 Před 3 lety +8359

    I don’t really understand music theory so I’m just here like “I like your funny words, magic man”

    • @elguardallavesdejaal
      @elguardallavesdejaal Před 3 lety +248

      Truer words have never been spoken, Sunny, never

    • @Mewseeker
      @Mewseeker Před 3 lety +286

      The short version is that the song use notes from major key (notes who togeter sound upbeat and positive)
      and minor key (notes who together sound sad and/or spooky)
      to talk about the subject of emotions (sentiment of love toward someone) in conflit with the intellect (it won't work, it better to give up and let go).

    • @shinooo8291
      @shinooo8291 Před 3 lety +189

      “I like your funny words, music man”

    • @danishfarrell4653
      @danishfarrell4653 Před 3 lety +81

      "Nothing bad ever happens to the Dragon of Dojima.. WAAAA"
      *Fade to white*
      *Cue Baka Mitai*

    • @MrShagification
      @MrShagification Před 3 lety +22

      So, start learning. The basic fundamentals of music theory are actually quite simple and easy to pick up.

  • @hashiispep
    @hashiispep Před 3 lety +2894

    Kiryu: _Singing about despair, the mistakes made in the past and how he can't let go_
    The people in the background: 👏hey👏

    • @velveteensallet949
      @velveteensallet949 Před 3 lety +100

      Because the song slaps, they're slapping too.

    • @28_ranggaclio
      @28_ranggaclio Před 3 lety +17

      Nah he thinking about his dog

    • @makimaki500
      @makimaki500 Před 3 lety +6

      That's why I like this song, its relatable and what Kiryu is singing is what I think about at night.

    • @sodaandcookies1
      @sodaandcookies1 Před 3 lety +24

      @@28_ranggaclio naw, he thinking about POCKET FIGHTER!!!

    • @SigmaGaming123
      @SigmaGaming123 Před 3 lety

      BWAHAHHAHAHAHA

  • @roxx2623
    @roxx2623 Před 3 lety +722

    You forgot the most important musical event not included at 1:50
    I SING FOR YOU

  • @TheOtherLPer203
    @TheOtherLPer203 Před 3 lety +443

    fun fact: Kiryu's Bakamitai is actually pitch shifted a bit downwards, due to the VA's deeper voice. The version that Akiyama sings is what it's supposed to sound like.

    • @_Snix
      @_Snix Před rokem +7

      Actually I DID notice!! They transposed it for Kiryu

    • @cortneybrown2257
      @cortneybrown2257 Před rokem +12

      probably why thats my favorite version

  • @samuelbeltrami5647
    @samuelbeltrami5647 Před 3 lety +2924

    The title of this video is what I've been telling everyone for months

    • @HeliosimWorld
      @HeliosimWorld Před 3 lety +46

      The title is literally my toughts on Baka Mitai

    • @pbw_
      @pbw_ Před 3 lety +33

      I’m pretty sure those exact words have came out of my mouth over a dozen times.

    • @austinsmallwood151
      @austinsmallwood151 Před 3 lety +6

      Me too

    • @maximilianocarrion1599
      @maximilianocarrion1599 Před 3 lety +15

      The title of this video is what i've been telling my friends since 2005

    • @samuelbeltrami5647
      @samuelbeltrami5647 Před 3 lety +5

      @@maximilianocarrion1599 level 100 Chad

  • @emmbeesea
    @emmbeesea Před 3 lety +1560

    TL:DR;
    "Baka Mitai is a bonafide banger."
    - 8-bit Music Theory, 2020

    • @cxfxcdude
      @cxfxcdude Před 3 lety +8

      *clear throat softly* tldw

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca Před 3 lety +6

      *Bonified

    • @Cainenghis
      @Cainenghis Před 3 lety +7

      @@bacicinvatteneaca Bona fide*

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca Před 3 lety +1

      @@Cainenghis I'm joking about the fact that bona fide is pronounced [bɔna fide] rather than his [boʊnəfɑid]

    • @theighthsage
      @theighthsage Před 3 lety +1

      bona-fide mona-fied

  • @ozmaozmaozmaozma
    @ozmaozmaozmaozma Před 3 lety +652

    As a long time Yakuza fan, I’m really glad that people are becoming more aware of the intense comedic and emotional beats that this series is able to reach. Baka Mitai is such a perfect slice of Yakuza that represents the games as a whole.

    • @keyofpop
      @keyofpop Před 3 lety +19

      I'm happy that a meme like this can get people to experience a game they never would have picked up. It really is emblematic of the whole game. The song and the series is an absolute gem.

    • @loafas
      @loafas Před 2 lety +3

      We proud as yakuza fans.

    • @em_the_bee
      @em_the_bee Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@loafasWhich one would you recommend to try first?

    • @quinnmarchese6313
      @quinnmarchese6313 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@em_the_bee i'd start with either 0 or 1. 0 may or may not spoil some of the other games in terms of sheer amount of content and the quality of the story but they are all good, just dont start somewhere in the middle--you may even be more interested in the Judgement spin-offs (Ace Attorney with lots of fighting).

  • @Neogears1312
    @Neogears1312 Před 3 lety +64

    Just a reminder that Kiryus actor is actually the lead singer of his own rock band. Man knows how to use his pipes.

  • @AlexMoukalaMusic
    @AlexMoukalaMusic Před 3 lety +3781

    BRUH...
    Never thought I'd see you making a video on this one. Stoked to hear what you have to say!

    • @buttherewasnojanus6637
      @buttherewasnojanus6637 Před 3 lety +31

      Wow, I had no idea my two favorite VGM youtubers knew each other! That's badass!

    • @renouille85
      @renouille85 Před 3 lety +17

      Omg Alex moukala is here also?!

    • @dylantorrance
      @dylantorrance Před 3 lety +14

      Would love to see some collab vids between you guys

    • @stroodlepup
      @stroodlepup Před 3 lety +5

      Why hello mr moukala

    • @VBandit47
      @VBandit47 Před 3 lety +2

      BRUH... Never thought I'd see you making a comment on this video! xD

  • @GengaJupite
    @GengaJupite Před 3 lety +1272

    Baka Mitai Actually Slaps Though
    aka 8-bit Music Theory unknowingly falls in love with enka music

    • @maluse227
      @maluse227 Před 3 lety +136

      As someone doing their masters thesis on Enka music, bless you and everyone who liked your comment for knowing what Enka music actually is. Long live the internet.

    • @TytoAlpha
      @TytoAlpha Před 3 lety +31

      @@maluse227 tell me more about your thesis

    • @cameronli151
      @cameronli151 Před 3 lety +44

      Kiryu actually has an enka song from Yakuza 3-5! In fact, it was his very first karaoke song when the minigame was introduced in Yakuza 3!
      czcams.com/video/tHShuWc1sDQ/video.html

    • @8pierrot89
      @8pierrot89 Před 3 lety +5

      It's not a video game song, but I would LOVE if someone like 8-bit music theory broke down my favorite (out of 2 by the same composer rip i should try and find more enka) enka song

    • @jbark678
      @jbark678 Před 3 lety +9

      Welp, guess I'm about to spend who knows how long looking up Enka music.

  • @Nikita13337
    @Nikita13337 Před 3 lety +561

    The lyrics before “dame da ne” part are something like:
    “I love you” is something you never say but how come were you able to say “goodbye”?

    • @Nikita13337
      @Nikita13337 Před 3 lety +112

      and that long stretched "nano ni... nano ni doushite..." is the "but... but why..." part

    • @Nikita13337
      @Nikita13337 Před 3 lety +71

      jesus i love this song so much it's so beautiful :'(

    • @takumagoto6702
      @takumagoto6702 Před 3 lety +124

      Even though the Japanese lyrics do not have the subject pronouns in them, it's implied that the song is about himself. So rather, the lyrics say something closer to "I couldn't even say 'I love you', but how come I could say 'goodbye'?"

    • @Nikita13337
      @Nikita13337 Před 3 lety +13

      @@takumagoto6702 I see

    • @DavidSartor0
      @DavidSartor0 Před 3 lety +1

      Good comment.

  • @polkadi
    @polkadi Před 3 lety +183

    So basically, this song is a loving tribute to sad j-pop love songs, without being derivative of them.
    Yakuza once again shows how dang good it is.

  • @Glacier_Nester
    @Glacier_Nester Před 3 lety +2325

    This really gets to the heart of something I think people tend to overlook: on some level, a song that becomes a piece of Meme Material must be, on some level, listenable or good. Over and over, we find that the longer-lived musical memes are songs that are good outside the context of the joke. They have to be, otherwise seeing the meme crop up outside of the "standard" context would be an unpleasant time, and seeing memes in new contexts is how they live longer, evolving over time as they spread! For a bit of a dated example, look at rickrolling vs this is sparta. One's still (arguably, anyway) a relevant thing that happens, but we just don't see this is sparta edits anymore! The difference is, I'll sit and listen to Never Gonna Give You Up, but the sparta remix isn't nearly as listenable or enjoyable!

    • @melskunk
      @melskunk Před 3 lety +130

      This is so true. I've ended up with songs on my playlist from memes, like Caramelldansen, which KEEPS showing up in new memes every few years

    • @TheZenytram
      @TheZenytram Před 3 lety +11

      the over use of rick rolled meme spoiled that song for me forever, i cant listen to it like i used before knowing the meme

    • @PikaLuigi
      @PikaLuigi Před 3 lety +55

      This makes a lot of sense. I still listen to Never Gonna Give You Up too, and using it as a Rickroll just makes it more enjoyable (for me at least). Although, I pose the question: Is Megalovania still a good song by this logic?
      I don't go out of my way to listen to it, but I still like the song, and it has a lot of emotional weight within its original context. So given that it's survived this long as a meme, is it merely a very memeable song, or is it a good song that just happens to annoy a lot of people because of the first 4 bars of the piece?

    • @quadpad_music
      @quadpad_music Před 3 lety +71

      @@PikaLuigi - Wait, so you mean there's people out there who don't like Megalovania?
      I'm asking seriously, I thought almost everyone loved that song lmao.

    • @PikaLuigi
      @PikaLuigi Před 3 lety +24

      @@quadpad_music I know some people who get really annoyed with Megalovania, but I also know a lot of people who like it too, hence why I pose the question 🤔

  • @gabrielladias420
    @gabrielladias420 Před 3 lety +424

    I hear sharks can sing this tune with unmatched proficiency

    • @Karls_Clips
      @Karls_Clips Před 3 lety +44

      A fellow chumbud, ahoy

    • @NoxShadow
      @NoxShadow Před 3 lety +26

      And fly me to the moon, which is even better, imo

    • @SuheMalqir
      @SuheMalqir Před 3 lety +21

      And all this the day Coco comes back.

    • @gabrielladias420
      @gabrielladias420 Před 3 lety +11

      @@SuheMalqir This monday has been a blessing. Especially with Haachama's... interesting... ASMR stream earlier

    • @BenjaminSteber
      @BenjaminSteber Před 3 lety +8

      A

  • @meatman2203
    @meatman2203 Před 3 lety +130

    8bit Music Theory: *explains why the song sounds so good*
    Me: Hmm yes, plenty of great soup ladles.

  • @rkirsling
    @rkirsling Před 3 lety +191

    So cool to see a JPop deep dive! A couple of extra context notes: this is a pretty characteristic example of kayōkyoku (basically 70s / 80s JPop) and the lyrics here are written from a female perspective (which if anything adds another layer of emotional depth!).

    • @deliriumzer0
      @deliriumzer0 Před 3 lety +41

      Came here to say exactly this! 70s-80s kayoukokyu ballads are similarly all about that jazz-inspired intermodality, and this song reminds me of a number of tracks from artists like Momoe Yamaguchi, Seiko Matsuda, Akiko Wada, Akina Nakamori, etc. This song in particular has a Shinji Tanimura sound all over it. It was clearly written specifically to mimic the sort of well-known bittersweet ballad people LOVE to sing at karaoke when they know they need a crowd-pleaser but they've had a rough day at work lol. It was so funny to watch this video and hear him basically praise an ENTIRE subgenre of japanese pop music with this one song as the vehicle for it. :D But it is amusing because within the context of Japanese pop ballads.... this song was engineered to literally be nothing special at all hahaha. But that really is a testament to the brilliance of it - this song NAILED that style so perfectly!

    • @creamyhorror
      @creamyhorror Před 3 lety +5

      @@deliriumzer0 Well stated, you clearly know your J-music history

    •  Před 2 lety +12

      So much of the harmony here is also present in city pop ballads by people like Tatsuro Yamashita, which were doubtlessly heavily borrowing from kayokyoku. Kayokyoku really laid the groundwork for so much Japanese music for such a long time - you can even hear elements of this stuff in some Japanese cinematic classical composers like Joe Hisaishi.

  • @eyemotif
    @eyemotif Před 3 lety +447

    5:08 YES!!! i always knew that there was a certain sound that i heard a lot in japanese music that was super cool and not found elsewhere, and thats it!! thank you for finally putting a name to it!

    • @andrewnguyen2333
      @andrewnguyen2333 Před 3 lety +8

      Exactly! I've heard that progression in games thought it was so good.

    • @tvvoty
      @tvvoty Před 3 lety +29

      Also IV-v-vi is the second common - you can check out Gavin Leeper's video "Common japanese chord progressions" on the topic.

    • @VVheeli
      @VVheeli Před 3 lety +13

      I couldn’t believe the SSBM intro fit the theme, but it makes a lot of sense.

    • @eyemotif
      @eyemotif Před 3 lety +1

      @@tvvoty ty!

    • @alejandrorivas4585
      @alejandrorivas4585 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tvvoty thank you for this

  • @ImaginatorJoren
    @ImaginatorJoren Před 3 lety +438

    If you look for the full version of the song, there’s a whole second verse with more good words! The version in the game is only the first part!

    • @andrewnguyen2333
      @andrewnguyen2333 Před 3 lety

      Where can you find the full version?

    • @markusc7380
      @markusc7380 Před 3 lety +38

      @@andrewnguyen2333 if you use spotify they have all the Yakuza soundtracks up with special ones for the karaoke tracks. Theres plenty of other great karaoke pieces from the games if you liked this one. Also you can find it pretty easily on CZcams if you don't use spotify.

    • @ImaginatorJoren
      @ImaginatorJoren Před 3 lety +6

      @@andrewnguyen2333 I found this one czcams.com/video/F_rJFbWrK3Y/video.html

    • @bigsanctions1142
      @bigsanctions1142 Před 3 lety +57

      Also as a side-note, most versions of the song have it in the key of Bb.
      The version covered by the video - from Yakuza 0 - lowers it to G so as to accommodate the lower register of Kiryu's VA.

    • @JustAnotherMike_
      @JustAnotherMike_ Před 3 lety

      @@andrewnguyen2333 czcams.com/video/e6sBECDG0MU/video.html
      (or spotify like Markus said)

  • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668

    The tone conflicting with the lyrics is actually a common thing in Japanese drama. A character thrown into the depths of despair will often be self deprecating, trying to lighten the mood, but that only makes the heartbreak more grim. Like a joke character being serious for once, like the doctor in MASH.

  • @shadesofshona7893
    @shadesofshona7893 Před 3 lety +21

    Baka Mitai is one of those songs that you don't really notice the first time you hear it, then later find funny as a meme, and after like half a year suddenly you have it back in your ears and like it unironically afterwards.

  • @ThiagoCRocha-fh6lg
    @ThiagoCRocha-fh6lg Před 3 lety +188

    That explanation of Cmaj7 D/C Bm7 Em7 and how common it's used in the Japanese music hit so hard because all of a sudden ALL OF THE SONGS FROM NIER AUTOMATA START PLAYING IN SIN IN MY HEAD AND THIS IS TOO MUCH, JESUS CRIST.

    • @andrewnguyen2333
      @andrewnguyen2333 Před 3 lety +5

      yes yes

    • @ARZiehm
      @ARZiehm Před 3 lety +13

      It's ridiculously popular in pokemon music too. Everyone uses it, 4-5-3-6, whether the 6 be major or minor
      edit: i have now watched the video and lol

    • @conciliator6440
      @conciliator6440 Před 3 lety +1

      yeah I was just about to write this, I don't even really know this song but spelling out that chord progression was like a revelation

    • @beauxq
      @beauxq Před 3 lety +1

      If anyone is making a list of video game music with that chord progression, make sure you also get
      In the Earthen Womb - Illusion of Gaia

    • @ithyphalleferal7894
      @ithyphalleferal7894 Před 3 lety +2

      Wow I actually never realized that it was used for Nier Automata, do you have any specific song in your head ?

  • @somecomposingfudsa
    @somecomposingfudsa Před 3 lety +198

    the chorus has the same progression as never gonna give you up

    • @NoahAlbrecht
      @NoahAlbrecht Před 3 lety +16

      Oh wow, it really does!

    • @happycamperds9917
      @happycamperds9917 Před 3 lety +16

      The intro has a similar progression to an old contemporary worship song and I can’t unhear it.

    • @jtho8937
      @jtho8937 Před 3 lety +1

      @@happycamperds9917 Which one?

    • @dejay7778
      @dejay7778 Před 3 lety +4

      Yep the overrated 80's song nice catch

    • @happycamperds9917
      @happycamperds9917 Před 3 lety +6

      @@jtho8937 “No Longer Slaves”

  • @Jonas42134
    @Jonas42134 Před 3 lety +269

    Please do "why does Snow Halation go with everything"

    • @paulollarsabaiii9824
      @paulollarsabaiii9824 Před 3 lety +45

      Including Bakamitai, funnily enough.

    • @snakey8095
      @snakey8095 Před 3 lety +11

      most of the snow halation mashups didn't even bother to match the key signature, let alone the chord progression

  • @Noipara38
    @Noipara38 Před 3 lety +50

    8bit Music Theory: So here's the video game music share this chord progression
    Me: **Sing Baka Mitai over Wind Scene**

    • @Mewseeker
      @Mewseeker Před 3 lety +2

      Sing over Wind Scene like an idiot. ;P

  • @4thport464
    @4thport464 Před 3 lety +87

    Recently started my music degree in college, and with just half a semester, I finally understand a majority of what you are saying lmao

    • @oyc7946
      @oyc7946 Před 3 měsíci

      Are you even allowed to start a music degree without prior music knowledge?

  • @Ketfera
    @Ketfera Před 3 lety +167

    Even though this song may sound corny to Westerners and the lyrics may be corny to Japanese, the style and sound of this song are far from corny in Japan and are at most classic.

    • @Ketfera
      @Ketfera Před 3 lety +38

      @@whatsallthebrouhaha Excluding pronouns is a hallmark of the Japanese language, because context is everything in Japanese culture. It DOES allow for some ambiguity, which is actually the source of some humor in Japanese media, including anime. (That and all the homophones in Japanese.)
      However, as far as I can tell, the context in this song allows for little ambiguity. Because the lyrics are so stereotypical and melodramatic and include puns, to the Japanese audience, I'm sure it is even more enjoyable because it is a bit corny.

    • @Gon-hx4df
      @Gon-hx4df Před rokem +1

      @@gumbowallace While it did appear in Yakuza 0, it's firt appearance was in Yakuza 5, which was set in 2012, so I don't think that's what they had in mind...

  • @sansansansan9192
    @sansansansan9192 Před 3 lety +1827

    So I'd like to introduce two more elements that really makes this song stand out.
    You absolutely hit the nail on the head with the translations of the lyrics, but there is one thing that someone who doesn't speak Japanese would easily overlook. It's the fact that throughout the song, the lyrics are written in a decidedly feminine style. Of course, as English speakers (myself being an American), there are very few words/phrases that we could use that would be a tell as to what our gender might be. However, in Japanese, the end-tags "の" (no) or especially "なのよ/なのね" (na no yo / na no ne) that pop up quite often in this song are a dead giveaway that the speaker is a woman.
    (edit: Gendered language is still extremely prevalent in Japanese, as LGBT+ issues in Japan are still a few decades behind - likely due in part to the language itself. I bring this up mostly for the people in the replies learning Japanese - I think it's not unlikely that this changes in coming years, as more young Japanese people come out and a necessity for genderless language develops.)
    SO, that introduces a totally different angle from which we can analyze the song. Is Kiryu singing this song from his own perspective, or someone else's?
    Is he singing it ABOUT himself or someone else?
    The fact that a big beefy yakuza man is singing a song with such feminine lyrics is in itself quite subversive, but is there anything else one could glean from this deeper understanding of the lyrics/language? Who knows? Maybe it's just supposed to be funny, but it's definitely something you could choose to analyze.
    The second thing about this song that stands out is that it uses Japanese grammar to make the song even more mysterious.
    What I mean is that in Japanese, the subject of the sentence is often dropped.
    This creates some moments in "Baka Mitai" that make you question who the subject is - the singer, or the person who broke the singer's heart?
    For example, here is the first block of lyrics translated in two different ways - both of which are correct:
    Original:
    Baka mitai
    Kodomo na no ne
    (there's that feminine Japanese I was talking about)
    Yume wo otte kizu tsuite
    Uso ga heta na kuse ni waraenai egao wo miseta
    Translation Option 1:
    You look like a fool
    You're such a child
    You chased your dreams and got hurt
    You, being such an awful liar, showed me your empty smile
    Translation Option 2:
    I look like a fool
    I'm such a child
    I chased my dreams and got hurt
    I, being such an awful liar, showed you my empty smile
    On top of all this, it doesn't have to be all "I" or all "You", either. One could indeed make a case for mixing those up to make it mean something closer to "I'm such a fool for trusting you even though i could see that you were lying to me". This problem occurs throughout the rest of the song.
    So hopefully, now you can see that because the subject is often not clearly defined within the song, the number of ways one could analyze it start to border on ridiculous.
    That's what makes this song so interesting. The choices made within the harmony are of course incredibly nuanced (as showcased by the video), but the lyrics also contain every bit as much nuance and mystery as the music itself. After you've made a decision on who you think Kiryu is singing AS, and who he's singing ABOUT, THEN you have to piece together who the subject of each line is. This song has such powerful, tragic lyrics, but you can never really know who it is that's hurting.
    Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
    (edit: Coming back to watch this video 2 years later and... boy, there sure are a lot of you butthurt about me mentioning LGBT+ stuff lmao. I only brought it up to point out that in Japan, it would be incredibly rare to find someone speaking feminine Japanese who wasn't a woman, and that it's fair to analyze the fact that Kiryu is singing a song with feminine lyrics. I decided to add a sentence or two more about it though, since I realized that I hadn't fleshed out that part of the explanation enough. :) Hope that doesn't make anyone have an aneurism.)

    • @Kaimax61
      @Kaimax61 Před 3 lety +103

      wait till someone does a deep dive with "Today is a diamond" from Yakuza 6.

    • @lrgogo1517
      @lrgogo1517 Před 3 lety +29

      Since when was Japan _behind_ on LGBT stuff?

    • @GuitarGuruGaming
      @GuitarGuruGaming Před 3 lety +22

      I appreciate this insight, I’d noticed that there was some ambiguity but I never really thought about why

    • @TheBlueGoldenHawk
      @TheBlueGoldenHawk Před 3 lety +135

      I also heard about the lyrics being feminine from a native Japanese person, such as when he sings using the word "dame" which is apparently mostly used by women. However, I really don't think it has anything to do with LGBT and is just done for humor since a super masculine yakuza man is singing heartfelt feminine lyrics

    • @stnhndg
      @stnhndg Před 3 lety +82

      Yep, I couldn't shake that feeling that this song is a woman's song. It's just how it happens in karaoke: girls sing guys songs, guys sing girls songs.
      Which why I find Gura's perfomance of this song adorable )

  • @MFMegaZeroX7
    @MFMegaZeroX7 Před 3 lety +26

    I would translate 馬鹿みたい as "like a fool" in this context personally. Rather than chastising himself for being an idiot, its more of a statement that the singer continues to love the target of the song, and that he recognizes that its foolish, but that isn't stopping him.

    • @cagethelonewolf
      @cagethelonewolf Před 3 lety

      No, it's I've been a fool and you been childish you fell down got hurt chasing sweeter dreams

    • @syro33
      @syro33 Před 2 lety

      @@cagethelonewolf Japanese doesn't really specify pronouns a lot of the time, so it's up to your own interpretation. Baka Mitai on its own does just mean "like a fool" or foolish.

    • @cagethelonewolf
      @cagethelonewolf Před 2 lety

      @@syro33 next you'll say kiryu is in the yakuza even tho he's outta the yakuza in like every game

  • @ryanfriscia1132
    @ryanfriscia1132 Před 3 lety +158

    My favorite Yakuza karaoke, other than maybe 24 Hour Cinderella

  • @ChristopherMoom
    @ChristopherMoom Před 3 lety +419

    We need more huge memes like Baka Mitai because they actually introduce legitimately great songs to everyone
    -also i want more music that i'll unironically listen to-

    • @howai4204
      @howai4204 Před 3 lety

      Hey Chris what gendre r u

    • @robin9031
      @robin9031 Před 3 lety +1

      Ah if only he did anime as well so we could get a breakdown of Kingdom of Predators, top 5 songs used in any popular meme

    • @cd-gr3wq
      @cd-gr3wq Před 3 lety +20

      Two words: "Plastic love"

    • @MoxieCat
      @MoxieCat Před 3 lety +2

      Reminds me of Steamed Hams. Genuinely good Simpsons bit that got introduced to a whole new generation of viewers.

    • @jonanabuke7000
      @jonanabuke7000 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cd-gr3wq ah i see youre a man of culture as well

  • @themobiustripper
    @themobiustripper Před 3 lety +111

    Would you say that Kriyu's deep voice gives his version a more "niche-key"? I'll cry myself out.

  • @randysterbentz5599
    @randysterbentz5599 Před 3 lety +30

    I love the analysis of how the lyrics interact with the harmony! Most musical youtubers I watch focus on the harmony, and only make subtle nods to the lyrics. But I would really like seeing more in-depth analysis like this that involves a level of dedication to how the feeling of the lyrics conflicts with or is supported by the music.

  • @cashwarior
    @cashwarior Před 3 lety +145

    I love both types of videos. The deep dives help me understand a use of musical concepts while looking at an entire soundtrack helps me understand the different options. I do like when you use other video game music as an explanation of concepts used in the topic though.

    • @NeverduskX
      @NeverduskX Před 3 lety +4

      I agree - the variety definitely provides a wider perspective than either type of video could do alone.

  • @pl4y4hpl4ys
    @pl4y4hpl4ys Před 3 lety +123

    Honestly, I'm surprised Mother 3 hasn't made an appearance on this channel yet. Aside from the obvious zaniness of the Mother series in regards to its music, the fact that music was composed to challenge the player in regards to the musical battle mechanic would seem like an easy fit. Just 2 cents anyway

    • @GL_099
      @GL_099 Před 3 lety +21

      It might have shown up in a video about unusual time signatures? I believe that was this channel.

    • @ReitheOffbeatOtaku
      @ReitheOffbeatOtaku Před 3 lety +18

      @@GL_099 Yep, Mother 3's boss theme made an appearance in 8-Bit's video about odd time signatures in video game music

    • @pl4y4hpl4ys
      @pl4y4hpl4ys Před 3 lety +10

      @@GL_099 If so then I'll check it out later. The change of all the songs to their "hard" variants and obviously the Barrier Trio song is such a cool mechanic

    • @tobiashysell3239
      @tobiashysell3239 Před 3 lety

      I’m surprised Marx’s theme hasn’t shown up yet. I’m waiting for it. Kind of surprised it didn’t appear in the weird time signatures one.

    • @tobiashysell3239
      @tobiashysell3239 Před 3 lety +3

      Wait, it did. Just checked.
      Still want a whole video on it though.

  • @geoffreyjalexandeify
    @geoffreyjalexandeify Před 3 lety +20

    Love this! I mean I guess growing up around Japanese music (my moms side of the family is from Japan) and Enka, the progressions didn’t surprise me too much...but now that I’m a music major taking 3rd semester theory, actually UNDERSTANDING the theory behind the music makes me super happy!! Your videos are actually helping me understand the concepts we’re learning 😁😁

  • @AwesomeYears
    @AwesomeYears Před 3 lety +14

    Baka Mitai has one of the greatest chord progessions I've ever seen in a song, equivalent to a Steely Dan song, every time I play it on the piano, I get a huge sense of joy in all of the chords that I play. Oh boy oh boy, it's ecstasy!

    • @airportlady579
      @airportlady579 Před 3 lety +3

      I totally agree, there’s a certain sort of harmony in older soft rock/ballads that you just don’t hear anymore, which makes Baka Mitai so special!

    • @cooldebt
      @cooldebt Před 3 lety

      These guys have ramped it up (ignore technical difficulties - music is great): czcams.com/video/JZV_6dxGU4E/video.html Or maybe that should be 'vamped' ;)

    • @cooldebt
      @cooldebt Před 3 lety

      @@airportlady579 Maybe also Birdman? That always sound to me like a combo of I can't Tell You Why, How 'Bout Us and I Believe I Can Fly: czcams.com/video/hdftst-ai3c/video.html @8:58 (also beautifully done by b Bit Big Band)

  • @Fleetw00d
    @Fleetw00d Před 3 lety +30

    That lead in to the chorus gets me every time, man.

  • @andrew_cunningham
    @andrew_cunningham Před 3 lety +76

    Fun fact: you can substitute Baka Mitai for any song by Robert Schumann and this video will still be a mostly accurate analysis.

  • @ZaneChihuahua
    @ZaneChihuahua Před 3 lety +17

    Yay! An analysis of a song with lyrics! Finally! And it's "Baka Mitai" of all songs too. Now, you should analyze "Jump Up, Superstar!"

  • @RicarditoRicardon
    @RicarditoRicardon Před 3 lety +6

    Wait, so I'm not the only one that started getting randomly obsessed with this song, disregarding the entire meme? I'm glad I ain't the only one. I can't stop repeating it!

    • @cagethelonewolf
      @cagethelonewolf Před 3 lety

      You do realize you can enjoy things without having to label them as a meme

  • @m3grim
    @m3grim Před 3 lety +28

    14:40 Absolutely adore these deep dives, sir. Please never stop geeking out like this so I can become a better music nerd. 👌

  • @REXanadu
    @REXanadu Před 3 lety +35

    I took listening to the Yakuza 0 song to find out this version is a cover of the same song which appeared back in Yakuza 5 and was sung by other characters. It's also in Yakuza 7 sung by yet another character.
    I implore others to listen to the other renditions to see how different they are - specifically since they have different tempos alongside the different takes on the other characters singing it.

    • @andrewpoon1783
      @andrewpoon1783 Před 3 lety +1

      lmao kiryu sings it in a different key compared to everyone else bc hes so cool

    • @GervasiusMC
      @GervasiusMC Před 3 lety +3

      @@andrewpoon1783 shun's version is imo better tho, but that might be biased since koichi yamadera's voice is one of my fav in the japanese voice acting scene

    • @Kaimax61
      @Kaimax61 Před 3 lety +9

      @@andrewpoon1783 more like he can't reach the actual key of the og sung by Akiyama. lol XD

  • @goromajima7677
    @goromajima7677 Před 3 lety +7

    I love singing this with him man, makes my tear up every time 😔

  • @Cosplaybuddygiraffes
    @Cosplaybuddygiraffes Před 3 lety +8

    Yessss, the Yakuza soundtracks are always bangers! I love this intricate single song dissection, especially because I love seeing the technical elements that create an artistic piece feel a certain way. I’d love for you to look at Yakuza OSTs as a whole, but I also love this style of video too! Excellent idea!

  • @elecboy5126
    @elecboy5126 Před 3 lety +9

    9:13 I like how the D7 in measure 8 sets up a cliché return to G minor after the stint in B flat major, only to use a ii-V-iii-vi in B flat to resolve to G minor without its leading tone F#, making it non-tonic-ish

  • @jordan_dc4268
    @jordan_dc4268 Před 3 lety +25

    This is something I desperately wanted but never thought I'd get

    • @cooldebt
      @cooldebt Před 3 lety

      You've heard the theory, now here's the practical: czcams.com/users/TheConsoulsBandvideos

  • @colonthorn
    @colonthorn Před 3 lety +6

    4:55
    Oh shit, that's Never Gonna Give You Up.

  • @rubendimanelle2215
    @rubendimanelle2215 Před 3 lety +9

    Much deeper song than i though it was. It is wonderfull to see the polarity between mayor and minor as well as how the lyrics play with these two to create this strange yet familiar feeling of hope when we are going through minor tonality and viceversa. Really good video as always.

  • @danielbazin242
    @danielbazin242 Před 3 lety +27

    I prefer the more focused videos, personally. It always seems more insightful than flitting around multiple subjects and makes the structure of the videos more cohesive and satisfying.

  • @orangeleaf2056
    @orangeleaf2056 Před 3 lety +18

    I like both kinds of videos, single songs and soundtracks; and I can’t believe you did Baka Mitai. I love this song, even before it became a meme (I’m actually really glad so many people like it now), and this video really helps explain why it’s so addicting. It’s extremely informative and I’m really glad it exists.

    • @cooldebt
      @cooldebt Před 3 lety +1

      Lots of people love the song - I especially love this version: czcams.com/video/JZV_6dxGU4E/video.html

  • @FinalGamerJames
    @FinalGamerJames Před 3 lety +4

    As a Yakuza fan, and also a longtime fan of your channel, I LOVED this analysis, it really made me appreciate the song much more than I already did!
    Great stuff, especially liked your part at the end of the tonal difference between lyric and melody, excellent vid.

  • @Zonno5
    @Zonno5 Před 3 lety +4

    Man that Vm(maj7) → IIIm7 → VIm works so insanely well. That final IIIm7 → VIm cadence with that dramatic interval at 7:34 is the most J-pop sounding thing ever.

  • @UNOwenWasMe
    @UNOwenWasMe Před 3 lety +12

    I'm happy that you are confident and more comfortable in sharing your more symbolic interpretations of what the harmonies in a song are! They add a lot to the videos, and help me as a musician too!

  • @cmv_1869
    @cmv_1869 Před 3 lety +7

    Honestly so long as you push out content, I’ll enjoy it. It’s really good hearing you explain this, i learn music stuff so maybe one day I myself could compose something

  • @anonymousOrangutan
    @anonymousOrangutan Před 3 lety

    been watching this channel for a lil while, and i gotta say i love to hear your take on individual songs in particular. when you cover entire soundtracks, you show us bits of gold that make us want to play the game again. but when you go all out on one song like here or in bioshocks arrangement of god only knows, you really make us appreciate the art of video game music. seeing the amount of knowledge and creativity put into only one song is rly eye opening and hugely inspiring, so i’d definitely like to see more videos of this type. in all cases i love your content, and regardless of what you choose to cover in your videos, your overflowing passion for music always ends up winning me over.

  • @jrscisneros
    @jrscisneros Před 3 lety +2

    This was easily my favorite video of yours, and I love them all. You do amazing work, and have inspired creativity in my music on many occasions.

  • @gatogelato0037
    @gatogelato0037 Před 3 lety +8

    Fastest click of my LIFE bro, this song truly is a banger and hearing the theory behind it truly gives me the words to describe what I knew in my heart

  • @dodicin
    @dodicin Před 3 lety +4

    ABSOLUTE great job man, love these kind of videos, they make me appreciate music like this on a whole additional level! Really look forward to seeing more!

  • @Yeye-oz7ge
    @Yeye-oz7ge Před 3 lety +2

    I WAS SO EXCITED TO SEE THIS IN MY SUBBOX i would never have dreamed that you would cover this!! i’m super down with this kind of “deep dive”, would definitely love to see more like this in the future!

  • @Bladavia
    @Bladavia Před 3 lety +5

    "In every sorrow there is hope, and in every joy there is vulnerability" Thank you, mister 8-bit !

  • @Deeplycloseted435
    @Deeplycloseted435 Před 3 lety +9

    Musician who wrote Baka Mitai: FINALLY!!! The respect I deserve!!!
    TBH, the theory here is really advanced. I can spot the key change, but you did a great job breaking it all down.

    • @cagethelonewolf
      @cagethelonewolf Před 3 lety

      So repesect him by learning what the lyrics sre in English and understand his song on a higher level

  • @Epsilonyx
    @Epsilonyx Před 3 lety +6

    When I got the notification for this video, I was like “What?!”, because I *just* started playing Yakuza 0 a few days ago, and it’s my first experience with the series (I’m having a great time, for the record)
    The analysis was amazing as always. Thanks especially for making me aware of that C# half-diminished chord in the refrain, I never noticed how funky the harmony was there

  • @heterodoxagnostic8070
    @heterodoxagnostic8070 Před 3 lety +2

    i like the one tune analysises the most because i actually learn something from the videos, and the songs tend to be better in those videos.

  • @sakurawindss92
    @sakurawindss92 Před 3 lety

    I super super appreciate the deep dives into specifics. I really like your theory analysis because it helps me learn about these really interesting chord structures that I wouldn't have otherwise known about. Thank you!

  • @apoxfox
    @apoxfox Před 3 lety +4

    bro this channel is criminally slept on. the way he keeps your attention through the entire video is unmatched

    • @cooldebt
      @cooldebt Před 3 lety

      Even more criminally slept on is this brilliant band. Their arrangements are absolute genius: czcams.com/users/TheConsoulsBandvideos

  • @Bobbias
    @Bobbias Před 3 lety +4

    The way it makes use of the relative major and minor keys serves to emphasize the wild emotional struggle. While I couldn't have analyzed the actual theory here, it was immediately apparent to me what the back and forth was trying to say. Even without reading the lyrics, I understood the ideas through the use of harmony. It's honestly a beautiful song. It makes me happy to hear legitimately good music being appreciated, even if it is in the form of a silly meme.

  • @EdoFuzzy21
    @EdoFuzzy21 Před 3 lety

    AHHHH I LOVE THIS!!! I nerd out like this about my favorite songs to other people and I love seeing others gush like this too!! This song quickly became one of my favorites and it fills me with so much joy to see one of my favorite youtubers break it down like this ^^

  • @GeekwithSwagg
    @GeekwithSwagg Před 3 lety

    This is by far my favorite video you've done yet. And this is coming from someone who loved all of the previous deep dives.

  • @maximilianocarrion1599
    @maximilianocarrion1599 Před 3 lety +6

    This is a day of joy. Never in my wildest dreams I could've imagined that 8-bit himself would be one day talking about the music in Yakuza. I can die a happy man.

  • @colorsinmyhead
    @colorsinmyhead Před 3 lety +3

    God i literally love this channel so much it's my two favorite things combined

  • @EspioTheChamelion1
    @EspioTheChamelion1 Před 3 lety

    I love all your content, and all of it is really informative and cool for me. The deep dives are awesome, but stepping back and seeing a whole soundtrack is just as cool. Just keep doing what you're doing. These videos have come a long way. I'm excited to see what you do next!

  • @erzloh
    @erzloh Před 3 lety

    I really loved this video!! Deep analysis on one specific piece is great! The analysis you did comparing the lyrics and the music theory was amazing :o

  • @dogbone4665
    @dogbone4665 Před 3 lety +15

    Its pretty much impossible for this song to be sung bad. Kiryu sings is? Ever hear Saejima sing it? Beautiful. Doesn't matter who it comes out of, its always good.

  • @Back-Space.
    @Back-Space. Před 3 lety +4

    I'm glad to see Baka Mitai getting some recognition! It's so good!

  • @PartyCow_
    @PartyCow_ Před 3 lety

    I really love the in-depth analysis with individual pieces of music, but also the broader looks at soundtracks etc. are amazing too. Honestly all your videos are really interesting and educational since not many people cover actual theory as much as you do and I love it so I'm happy with whatever videos you want to make :)

  • @estevanelmariachi1457
    @estevanelmariachi1457 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow, I love the in depth music theory knowledge you drop here! I’m still a beginner in that realm but this was fun to watch!!

  • @Pikachulova7
    @Pikachulova7 Před 3 lety +5

    I was unironically listening to this song before it was a meme too. It was awesome seeing it become a meme

  • @donsex5023
    @donsex5023 Před 3 lety +3

    I have been listening to this song for months, so good to see a tear down

  • @yomega69
    @yomega69 Před 3 lety

    Love the deep dive into specific songs, chord analysis never gets old IMO :)

  • @astriniadisoma419
    @astriniadisoma419 Před 3 lety

    This video was so good! I instantly subscribed to your channel! Plus I love happy sounding sad songs!!! Previously, I also only knew this as a meme but after learning the depth of the music & lyrics from your video I now understand that it's such a beautifully written song! Thank you for making this!

  • @corwinchapman8270
    @corwinchapman8270 Před 3 lety +4

    I'm so glad you can put into words how I felt about this when I first heard it in a meme.

  • @_GnarDab_
    @_GnarDab_ Před 3 lety +6

    Yes, please do more "meme" songs and why they're so good.
    Maybe a video on how we listen to meme songs ironically, but eventually genuinely enjoy them?

  • @bonyo888
    @bonyo888 Před 3 lety

    This was an AMAZING breakdown! I am pumped to go through the other vids and see what there is to indulge in!!

  • @Lando-My-Love
    @Lando-My-Love Před 3 lety

    On the topic of single song vids vs whole ost vids:
    I feel like I’m often getting a greater inspirational takeaway from the really specific ideas and applications discovered in the thorough deep dives of single song videos, so they’re my personal faves.
    Either way! Your videos are incredible! Always get me fired up to write with the ideas you address!

  • @kriss8789
    @kriss8789 Před 3 lety +4

    Fascinating video and this song is such a bop! Maybe it's because I'm not exposed to them much outside of playing jrpgs but I'm always surprised by how much chord progressions in Japanese music can catch me off-guard.

  • @braydeneverett6419
    @braydeneverett6419 Před 3 lety +7

    I love your stuff and was wondering, is there some sort of online resource where I could learn to do exactly what you do in your videos? (i.e. analysis with chord symbols etc.)

  • @mikec518
    @mikec518 Před 3 lety

    Absolutely wonderful video!! Thank you so much!
    Looking forward to your future content as well :)

  • @spiridiums
    @spiridiums Před 3 lety +2

    I love deep dives into songs like this, it adds an extra layer of depth to already good games/movies and are really interesting to get into!

  • @cadianguardian
    @cadianguardian Před 3 lety +28

    8-bit Theoritician: *says smart things*
    Me, a focken idiot: heh, that couple of notes with transition just above "o - tte" at 9:25 looks like a smug smile

  • @doomdoot6731
    @doomdoot6731 Před 3 lety +5

    I feel like this kind of deep dive into one specific song with specific examples from that one song is easier for someone with little to no musical training to follow. When there's just a barrage of chord progressions without anything to really latch onto on an audio level, it's sometimes hard to follow where exactly the sentence is going, at least for me. When it's broken down into small phrases that you get to know the context of more intimately throughout the video really helps me understand and follow though.
    Overall, I must say, I don't mind the broader style of video though. Generally I feel like music is criminally underappreciated in some games, and the underlying theory of how those beautiful soundtracks work to evoke emotions is really interesting. Albeit sometimes a bit too "chords rapid firing" for newbies.

  • @jaxietoon
    @jaxietoon Před 3 lety

    this is an incredible video and comes with the added bonus of reminding me how much i'd looove for you to do a deep dive like this on Lonely Rolling Star from Katamari Damacy, with its mix of bittersweet lyrics and incredible musical identity. the 8-bit Big Band version just about drives me to tears when I listen to it!

  • @OliyTC
    @OliyTC Před 3 lety

    Keep on doing both types of videos you outlined at the end, both are interesting in balance with each other

  • @dharmdevil
    @dharmdevil Před 7 měsíci +3

    If you look up the lyrics further into the song, you'll know that this is not about unrequited love. The man cheated (signified by taking off his ring), the girl learned about it and tried to endure for a while (tsuyoi onna no furi) but eventually they broke up and the man couldn't move on and is deeply regretful.

  • @kaimuck
    @kaimuck Před 3 lety +4

    Loved this deep-dive, appreciate the hard work you put into these. I won't be able to listen to J-POP or OSTs again that use this specific chord progression without thinking about Kiryu sobbing over a picture of Pocket Circuit Fighter.
    Is no one going to address how much harder Akiyama's version goes though? :')

  • @basilskite
    @basilskite Před 5 měsíci

    Hey, this video introduced me to your channel just now and I felt compelled to say great work!

  • @downtomars1903
    @downtomars1903 Před 3 lety

    The best content on CZcams. Your videos are so educational and are about my absolutely favorite subject matter. Thank you.

  • @Incog2k6
    @Incog2k6 Před 3 lety +8

    To the people who think that Kiryu's version slaps: just wait till you hear Akiyama's (another Yakuza protagonist) version. Now THAT version truly slaps. Best singer of all Yakuza protagonists by far (and it's hilarious to think that the VA also voices Beerus and Donald Duck, lmao).

  • @nyoukki
    @nyoukki Před 3 lety +3

    I've started playing Yakuza 0 a week ago and you upload this video... I didn't expect this lmao
    Though I agree that Baka Mitai is fantastic

  • @SvDKILLSWITCH
    @SvDKILLSWITCH Před 3 lety

    I like the idea of balancing both types of content in future. Hearing you explain the theory behind the music in this one as it played out was cool, and made me notice details I'd otherwise missed.

  • @rorschach620
    @rorschach620 Před 3 lety

    Great analysis!
    There are still some more deep harmony tricks I’ve discovered (like the composer actually using F7/B - B7 for the sukide-sukisugite part), but it’s great to see this amazing piece of music finally getting recognition!