Was I Wrong About The CFMoto Ibex?
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This was your best ADV video ever. There was difficulty, there was crashing, there was cursing, and there was ultimately success without injury and only slight bike damage! Great job man
Seconded
If anyone is wondering....Spite is just as cool (probably even MORE cool) in person! I saw him at ADVfest probably within an hour after he did this ride. He is dedicated and Loves riding. I've been looking forward to this review from you! You understated this test ride when we talked about it! Awesome test ride! This will quash many who dismiss the origins of where this was made! You showed it can handle some rough stuff and you didn't drop parts or break anything. I will also attest that this trail is MUCH harder to ride than what the video shows. The camera doesn't capture the uphill and the downhill angles. If one is watching this and not actually riding it, then one might think this is not as difficult as it is. CF moto only allowed journalist-type to demo their bike at ADVfest...so I didn't ride it. But in talking to Spite and others guys...they all were not fans of the throttle mapping. All complained of the snatchyness....but knowing the way the Chinese do things...(they allow one to tinker)....hopefully it is just an easy ECU flash fix. Sooooo many features packed in this bike for the price! I hope I did mention that Spite is even more cool in person!
I own one of these and bought it for the reasons you mentioned and you hit everything on the head. I have about 2K miles on mine both on and off. I haven't been on anything difficult off road because the stock ties are just not confidence inspiring. The throttle response is an issue on and off road, and yeah its not a rocket ship but, it is a ton of fun to play with the acceleration on the low end.
As owning this bike I can also list some other issues that most reviewers don't have the time with the bike long enough to know.
1. The MSU failure at low speeds. The MSU failure will shut the cooling fans off for reasons the community isn't entirely sure of but, for obvious reasons, this is an issue.
2. Accessories are over priced. I spent $60 on the tank pads and mother of God they were terrible and I took them back. The adhesive is separate from the actual pad and is like that stuff you get on the back of a credit card when you get it in the mail. definitely not worth it. I also got the bar risers for $60 as well. Those were worth it. The quality of the packaging and product was perfect.
3. Corrosion. The pannier racks on mine and another person that rides theirs on BDRs, the Ibex already have rust spots. It's barely 2 months old and it is not left in the rain. This worries me about the rest of the bike if I'm to be honest.
EDIT:
CFMOTO has recently updated the firmware for the MSU failure and the bike functions fine. You just connect your bike to the app and follow the instructions. Took 5 minutes and everything was fine.
Any other issues? I just test rode the Explore and thinking to buy it, was quite impressed with it to be honest.
@@psaunder1975 honestly after putting north of 3k on mine I would suggest trying the 800DE and seeing how that feels. If you want to off road or dirt road it trust me, get better tires asap
Tell you what guys, I'm a man that's willing and able... then proceeds to lay the bike down😂 Love it Spike!
To compare weight of the Ibex to the weight of the Tenere, you have to either strip the Ibex of some components the Tenere doesn’t come standard with or add them to the Tenere to insure an apples to apples comparison
Here in Australia the IBEX is just called the MT800 and they recently came out with the "Explore" model which has a lot of added extras like a new dash, radar warnings etc. Last years model which is the one you're riding came out with fuel injector issues and mapping had to be re-adjusted by CFMoto after the fact to fix it. Apparently they did but it could still result in a less than smooth throttle response. Check out the Explore model for even more value (at the same price) and supposedly fixed fuel mapping.
800MT
Is it a reliable bike?
Never realized how important cardio is for these types of rides
Looks like a fun trail. I will say mountain biking is a good skill for ADV biking. Downhill is normally much easier because gravity is helping you. You just have to be willing to let the bike roll and stay balanced through the obstacles.
Big difference when youre riding a 500+lbs machine vs a 20lbs bicycle.
@jvillain9946 the techniques are the same, especially for downhill. Most of his difficulties on that trail were technique issues not trail or bike issues.
And a key skill that is practiced in MTB is picking a good line, and keeping momentum up. I raced MTB competitively (XC not downhill) and learning to flow with the terrain is win.
im a fairly new rider and started on a DR650 trail riding at age 49. I also have been riding mountain bikes my whole life. I am the only of my motorbike pals who can easily manage the downhills though they have much more experience. I had this conversation not 2 weeks ago and think you are right there because as they generally "fear" the downhill, i have been trained by MTB to love it.
@@PaulKind3d Same deal for me. Fairly new to off-roading (T7, started at 47yo), but 20 years of mountain biking and it has helped me a ton. While the skills don't really correlate 100%, the fact that you are used to the roller coaster ride feel, should know how to pick a line and position your body properly is a great asset. You still have to adjust to the weight and power of a motorcycle, of course, but it's a definite advantage.
I have owned the Ibex for 2 months and I have really enjoyed the features it has like cruise control, heated grips and seats, quick shifter, and the seat height is not to tall at 32.5 inches. I think for me the pros out way the cons
Being a Tiger 900 RP owner, to compare the Tiger 850, which is really a road focussed bike, to an adventure focussed bike is apples to oranges. The Rally Pro is a whole different breed. If you can get a chance to put a Rally Pro through it’s paces off the tarmac, you gotta give it a shot. Then again, the RP costs 75% more, and well… you get what you pay for. Each rider has their own priorities, and what works for one may not work for another. In my search for a “Do-It-All” bike, the answer was clearly the Tiger 900 Rally Pro. And you are absolutely right, a 21” front wheel makes a huge difference in gnarly conditions. Properly set-up for off road, with over 9” travel F&R, plus ground clearance to match, the RP works competently/confidently in most all terrain. And at 451lbs(dry) it isn’t too much of a chore to manage. The CFMoto Ibex would be a good comparison to the BMW GS850, Suzuki Vstrom 800DE, Honda TransAlp, Moto Guzzi V85., and the Tenere 700. The class acts of the middleweights, Ducati Desert X, KTM 890 Adventure R, Tiger 900 Rally Pro, operate on another level IMHO.
Think what’s just about to throw a bomb in the middle of all you’ve said are two bikes that are yet to be fully tested by owners: the cf Moto 450MT and Kove 800, the later being 185kgs wet + 95bhp!
CFMoto knows that they are doing, and so far they are doing it really well. They are making bikes that people are considering over some of the big brands, and that’s saying a lot about what they want to do.
Cf moto is ovepriced shit
This is the review I've been waiting for! I bought an Ibex 800 3 weeks ago and absolutely love it! I've ridden about 650 miles so far with zero issues. My only complaint is the handguards are plastic and because of the front brake reservoir I couldn't put my tusk handguards on it. I just ordered some Kenda big block tires for it for an upcoming campout!
Barkbuster hand guards are the go, fitted to my 800MT in Oz, same as your IBEX800
KLR is the Honey Badger of motorcycles. Backflip it down the hill??? KLR don't care. Endo at the bottom KLR don't care.
Honey badger don't give a shit!
go anywhere fast? never going to happen...road trips on a klr sucks but you wont kill it for sure
Man, I got to say: I love your honesty 😁
So glad you did a video on this bike, I’ve been eyeballing it since it was announced!
You handle the bike well. Nice job and fun video to watch thanks Spite
"I like riding heavy bikes".... said nobody that rides off road. 🙂
I use a ATV to drive offroad and mc to drive on the roads that's it 💀💀
Great video Spite! I have one of these as well here in Beijing, China. Had it for around 6000km now. I'm also a tall biggish guy and I feel that the rain mode takes away a little too much. Specially if we going off-road you do need a bit of juice to get over obstacles. The throttle feeling snatchy for me was solved by doing ECU software updates. The APP allows you to update it manually but for some reason the latest version with the "fix" was not available. Found out that I needed to go to the dealership so they could manually install it. In the end great video! Great bike!
There doesn't appear to be anyone out there with you. Those rides alone in that remote forest can be dangerous and even deadly. In my youth I spend 15+ years riding in that stuff in the Arizona deserts and forests, but never alone. And my enduros were a lot lighter. I ate a lot of gravel and tore up a few blue jeans. Even pulled out a lot of barrel cactus spines from my legs but never any broken bones. Keep up the good work and be careful. I've had 24 bikes since high school. I'm 79.
Good info. Thanks Spite!
Awesome vid Spite!!! You're doing great on the channel bro. I'm rooting for ya!!! I love the Ibex; almost bought one... BUT i thought it'd be too much motorcycle for me, so I went with a 2023 V-Strom 650 "adventure." I'm pretty happy so far 😁
Great video Spite. CFMoto released these deliberately in Australia first 12-18 months prior to the states to iron out any issues. The original one had a snatchy throttle however after a simple remap it basically disappeared. So, not sure why you are getting the snatchy ones. A trip back to the dealership will have it solved in 5 minutes. Good luck all as this bike is priced extremely well for both of our markets whilst the Europeans are paying a lot more for these when you factor in the exchange rates.
Do you own one personally?
If so who did the remap? The dealership?
@@majordelays4909 Yes. I’ve mentioned it needs to be taken back to the dealership.
Just a side note, you're getting a lot better at off-road riding. I forget the last time I saw a video of you off-road, but you did a far better job here than the last time I remember, and the last one wasn't as hard as this one. Keep it up#
Also, I'm going to Alpine, TX the first weekend-ish of October, with my trip broke into legs coming from south-eastern Alabama. I'll be stopping my first night in Beaumont, TX and the next day headed from there to Bandera, then the next day on to Alpine. Anything worth checking out in Beaumont?
Thanks for finally reviewing this, it's been on my short list of potential bikes. Ended up finding a great deal on a fully farkled stage 1 Dirt Glide at the local HD dealer this last weekend. The Screaming Seagull stickers I bought for my V Strom will work even better on it.
Ive been waiting for this video from my favorite moto creator!
You did better than I would have man!! You earned your beer after that one!! Cheers!
I took the plunge on a CFMOTO and I'm SHOCKED how great it is!
I've taken the CL-X 700 heritage WAY off road and she's been outstanding! My new camping bike!
Having ridden an Ibex 800, i can comforably say I'd take a Tiger 900 Rally Pro any day. I am biased, as I do own a Tiger 900 RP, but Ive ridden an Africa Twin, 1200 GSA, Ibex, and a few others. The Tiger handled some gnarly roads in Colorado with ease. I didn't get warm fuzzies from the Ibex, and don't know that I'd trust it on those same roads.
That's fair, but you're comparing a high end Triumph that's coming in with an MSRP *twice* what the Ibex has, a $20k bike vs a $10k bike.
Nice skills working that machine offroad! Couldn't have been easy...but its exactly what people buying advbikes need to see. Especially since we will also dump them too. Great review!
I keep seeing folks use the term "derived" a lot with CFMoto. I think many don't realize that the company manufactures components for KTM which include this engine.
Yup its not derived, it is the KTM motor
"Derived" = Stolen from another manufacturer.
@@spartanx169x Its a licensed KTM motor. CFMoto makes them for KTM.
@@spitescornerDoes CFMoto makes the engine for the 890 as well ?
@@itsturbotime2994 Fair enough.
Try it again but this time increase your RPM and modulate your speed with the clutch. MORE RPS. Snatchy throttle shouldnt be a probem. You should be relying on the clutch. You did a great job, though. And the bike is gorgeous and the review is even better. Seriously loving your videos.
Any riding school whether it be in the US or UK (or anywhere else for that matter) will say the same thing, bike control is all about using a combination of brakes, clutch and accelerator. The quickshifter doesn't even come into the equation .
He was in 1st gear the whole time if I'm not mistaken, so 2nd gear, a bit faster, and as if by magic the throttle would be smoother and the bike would soak up those rocks better. The suspension won't compress at such low speeds making the ride bouncy and awkward.
Anything can be taken offroad...
Once.
Had a test drive already on this. The biggest problem is that it is extremely top heavy.
I have owned an 800MT for the last year and I find it not top heavy at all &
After owning a 2021 ktm 1290 super adventure r even with its low slung fuel tanks the ibex still feels significantly lighter in all aspects.
@cowmath77 The reality is that it is not top heavy for an Adventure bike, I have even had it in slick clay mud & have turned it around on hillsides and had no problems.
Maybe if You are only 5ft nothing tall it may feel heavy but then so would every other bike on the market. It seems to me as the owner of this bike that there is a bit of a slander campaign going online against it because it is such a good machine for the money & at its price point is a true market disruptor.
@@cowmath77my CFMOTO has been BULLETPROOF and has a warranty DOUBLE the length of any other bike on the market, what ARE you on about?
😂
@@cowmath77 dude, you are out of your depth and it shows.
I know; you THINK this is trolling, but you don't know a dang thing about motorcycle buying or selling.
No-one is comparing car and motorcycle warranties dude, and in six months I've racked up 2,000 miles, with half in the dirt and sand of Florida.
Keep trying to be cool, dude, maybe elsewhere tho.
🤣🤣🤣
@cowmath77 It would appear to me that You may have a vested interest In the established brands. I get how that it makes established dealers unhappy as not only does it have the potential to cut deeply into the bottom line of their sales quotas but it also leaves them virtually nothing to upsell to a customer as it comes with everything already Such as heated seat & grips , up & down quick shifter, slipper clutch, cruise control ect & being from china any of the extra little add ons a customer may like to add to the bike can be purchased online for pennies in the dollar.
I have no vested interest in any brands as I am just a humble consumer with no bias & to anyone reading this all I can say is go & ride one & experience the value this machine brings to the table for Yourself.
Adapt, overcome and conquer. Right on Spite!
Spites corner > Yammie noob
You are just stating facts that 99% of the riding community already know! But it's still nice to be reminded!!!
Wait… I thought the alligator mouth ate the smaller one…
@@Prosecute-fauci no it points at the loser
@@22smcrrider96 I have always disliked the alligator method… my 2nd grade teacher fucked me up for life with that damn explanation.
👍👌 Unlike most otber 'reviews' that are just ramblings, yours is to the point, and therefore useful. Congratulations.
I thought for sure that puddle had you ..... Excellent job my guy...... remember full on commitment!!!!
What tires did it have on it for your ride, Spite? Here in NZ (where it’s called the 800MT) it ships with Maxxis rubber that was good on road but felt quite sketchy in basic gravel. There is a Expedition version that adds a lot of extra tech (rider modes, switchable abs and mtc) that’ll be released here soon so hopefully you guys in the US will also get that.
I really like everything I've seen about this bike. The only reservation I have, besides it being an unknown quantity in the market, is the location of common maintenance items like the air filter, spark plug, and valve cover.
its litteraly a kmt 790 engine...there'sktm dealer almost everywhere
Touring to your dispersed camping spot this sound perfect
Nice review, @Spitescorner! As an enduro rider, I guess that's not a hard trail, on the other hand, doing it with a heavy bike, it might be that the difficulty ratings change a lot faster. Anyhow, I'm also interested in buying maybe my 3rd bike, since I now "only" own a KTM 350 EXC-F dedicated to enduro riding and the Husqvarna Svartpilen for poodling around town. Thanks again for the great review.
Did you get to ride the KTM version? OTD prices are sounding pretty similar. Of course once you add KTM's Pay to play with features that are already on the bike that could make a difference.
@@hvymax, I personally didn’t ride KTM’s version. Honestly, I find that KTM is very expensive and not the most reliable, not to mention high maintenance. And I’m not talking here about the hard enduro KTM, but the Adv bikes. I know people who have them and it’s not cheap to run… repair or maintain.
Ill see ya there next year buddy
I currently own the IBEX 800T, I can't speak to the Yamaha 700 or the Tiger 900. I can however say that the IBEX does really well in my opinion when it comes to riding off-road. I live out in southeastern AZ, and I took it up a trail in the Dragon Mountains. The trail leads you to China Peak and you pass through what the locals call "The Gate". We didn't make it to China Peak because it got too hot out and we decided to head back. The trail is covered with loose large rock and is not forgiving at all. The bike could have easily made it to China Peak but I'm still learning how to ride off-road. I would also like to point out that I went up the trail on the stock tires and never really had any issues with traction. I do agree with you on the throttle response, and agree that putting it in rain mode does help. CF Moto definitely needs to put out an update and they need to give it the same number of ride modes as the model release over in Australia. The video was great! I hope you enjoyed getting to ride the IBEX.
When you bent the handle bars on that crash....did they actually get bent to where replacement was needed, or were they just tweeked and in need of adjustment?
Great review. I find it peculiar that CF did not include a offroad riding mode. They made such an obviously great bike but left that out. That and the fact that it's heavy enough for Spite to call it a "heavyweight" means it's probably a no go for my ole lady. Back to looking for a f750gs I guess. But the fact that you did that trail without a offroad mode, OMG. You are a beast!
@12:18 I felt that bro. Plus on mine you'll stand it up and try to start it.. It starts but your abs is brakelocked untill you turn the key off and on again.
Don't ask!😂
CF Moto has a 800 NK released in Europe this year and I heard rumors about a touring bike. Great review, Spite. I think 1 CZcamsr from New Zealand has taken the Ibex off road. Great job
Definitely think I want one now. I want a road biased bike that maybe can do a dirt road. I'll get a dirt bike if I want to do the hard stuff
Adv bikes are the new gym and 20x as much fun!😆 Top job mate.👍
That was AWESOME!!!!!
You might want to try Snake Boots. They have the shin/calf protection while being more manageable everywhere else.
I have one! I wanted a Tiger 900 and saved ohhh 7k getting this bike... I'm more of an on road biased rider and its awesome. It does need an mcu or throttle map update which I hear is coming... I added a GPS bar, Shinko 705 tires, windshield extender and Leo Vince exhaust. So much fun just go get one. Some dudes are out the door with hard bags for less than 11K....
Steady rpms use the clutch. Let the clutch become your accelerator in the rough stuff like that.
This is where the Euro bikes are so superior... Clutches are not binary tools. Clutching should be all manner of shades of grey. But you have to design the right clutch for the right bike. Given the poor gearing choices and throttle mapping that @Spite did mention, I think his ADV training has not yet hit upon clutch feathering or he has not yet become comfortable enough with it to adopt it into his offroad toolkit. But that being said, this bike probably has a shit clutch that gives no mid engagement feel like a quality bike will provide.
I've the same bike and yes, off-road I prefer put it in rain mode. Sport it to snachy. The laste firmware upgrade did a little bit better on that case but still...
PS: You've got lucky with the tires. OEM are almost road only
Question. Would you agree that most Adventure Motorcycles in the middle and heavy class have a first gear that is entirely to fast for technical slow speed work? While at adv fest Sturgis I demo rode the tiger 900 and dang that 1st gear was fast! My current 2016 Tiger 1200 has a fairly tall 1st gear too.
Great review, thanks. Personally I'm trying to buy less chicom stuff.
When I took one for a test ride I also found the throttle too snatchy for my liking. I understand that CFMoto in Australia have an ECU flash to fix that but it is obviously not widely distributed. Ultimately I bought a different bike.
Loved the versysquestion. he hade to just get the versys in there somehow XD
First time I have seen this channel and happy to say the rider is a cool honest dude. An alternative for beginners middle entry is the new CF Moto 450 MT better design for off road
man i would love to ride with you. To bad I love in Central Mexico! If you ever wanna make the trip... you have a room, tour guide and garage at your disposal
Personally. I prefer lighter, small bikes. Yes, age and personal bias. When I drop it and push it, I'd rather end up on the bike and not on a gurney or get a chopper ride.
in your opinion do you think the KLR would have been easier in comparison on the trails that you took ?
You should ride the appalachian trail. See how far you can make it before you tap out. Ive only done 3 days on a 450 cc due to time and necessity restraints, but ive seen guys out there for a months on massive 1200s stocked to the gills. I can't imagine how heavy and unwieldy they are on those trails. I dont even know how people sit on them. The seat hight is like 60 inches. Feel like a toddler on one.
Hey you're in my neck of the woods! Have fun in SD!
Hey Spite, since you're into the ADV life are you looking to try a Norden 901? I guess it is basically a KTM at the end of the day...
That Ibex has the same engine as the 790 from KTM. There are some minor differences though but yeah, if the 790's throttle is "lively", that Ibex throttle will be snatchy.
you should have gone to the left side of the bike, put the kickstand down and stepped on the footpeg and swing your leg over! us short guys dont have a choice to get back on the bike all the time.. if you are facing downhill, pull the front brake and keep your bars turned to the left piece of cake if you do that... 45 years of dirt bike riding exp taught me that mounting trick so if i can do it, so can you!! 👍PS, I iive in BC so i know this works remounting facing downhill and steep downhills too! also keep making this great content bud! enjoying your channel!! great job! 👌
You just can't beat irony can you. What we have here guys is an Adventure bike that doesn't like adventuring. Life eh..........
I have not riden dual sports since the 70s. Is this lighter than a 70s 250? According to the specs sounds close to the same
may i know what offroad tyres did you use?
Well done completing that bit of off road with a still unfamiliar bike. 💯You ain't fully comfortable doing technical/difficult roads like this and that's fine of course. Hell it looked pretty nasty in my point of view and for reference I have 0 off road riding experience. I do want to get into it to enhance my riding skills though. But all in do time.
Start with a small dual sport bike. Like a Kawasaki klx300. You won't regret it. Easy to pick it up.
Does the Ibex have an off road mode? Can you turn off the ABS?
I love the bike. Taking a bike with KTM innards 50+ miles from society into the middle of nowhere does worry me a bit. The 790 seems to be a mixed bag in the forums. Many have had numerous gasket issues and issues stalling in cold weather with just a few thousand km. Others have 15k-20k km and say it's been great to them. 15k-20k is practically a new bike in my eyes. I can't say that impresses me at all. This engine has way more power than a Tenere but it seems more desirable as an enduro bike. Anybody have any long term experience on the reliability of the KTM 790?
With the engine off, first gear becomes a hand brake. Then you can use both feet for difficult down hill terrain.
FLYING EYES is the bees knees of sunglasses for aviators and motorcyclists or both like myself.
Try to carry more momentum while doing up hill sections on a adv bike! It’s definitely a bit more nerve racking but it helps
Momentum is your friend, that and sitting when you need traction. The bikes fine, just carry enough speed to get you through the rough parts…
I agree with your conclusions on this bike and after a recent pavement only combined highway city demo ride I found it a superb highway bike a would not venture into the crazy trail stuff with this machine. I have a viewer request for fun can you try the same type of trail on a NK300 bike ? I rode this machine on a demo ride and feel it would make a great slow speed trail machine its lightweight and has great low speed torque and fuel range that would allow you go up and down a mountain trail by only reservation is can the suspension handle the abuse stock.
I like the name Ibex on a bike. It instantly gives the impression of capability because of it's namesake mountain goat that lives on cliffs
Going downhill- drag the rear brake and slip the clutch (gear will vary). Ur gonna want to too skid to control your speed and direction basically. when ur at a good speed slip the clutch to gain that extra throttle control and repeat depending on the hill size. thats a good technique too have under your belt. Plus you will get very comfortable with the backend sliding/skipping/bouncing.
And you want to get your weight back there to help the rear tire dig that's the main purpose you want the tire to dig into the ground.
Dig it, Man. I am more interested in the sport version of this but coolsville
The big problem with the Ibex is not being able to turn off the ABS and it is really dangerous on big hard down hills. When I first got mine we ended up going down a lose hill like the seat was hitting me in the back .steep, and shale rock crashed twice on the hill as standing up and using the front brake for most of my braking the ABS makes you lose traction so you can't steer. I am going to disable the ABS with a switch and that will make a huge difference. The ABS is dangerous off-road.. Using motocross boots will make shifting hard so suit up properly. The bike takes a bit to get used to, especially with the throttle but once you master it its not a problem. Most fly-by-wire throttles are not easy.
This was a great lesson for spite 😂, that comment about how he liked heavy bikes offroad...it was so funny i actually laughed...knowing he would soon learn just how wrong that position was 😂. Awsome video from stary to finish ❤
This time in summer 2023 feels like 1970's when there was Harley Davidson, and Sears catalog Briggs & Stratton mini bikes, which I wanted SOOOooooo badly as a 7th grader in 1979. The Big 4 took over, and the rest is history. Japan took over the motorcycle and auto world within a few years.
I don't have the same confidence in Chinese bikes, yet and to be honest I'd NEVER feel safe riding one on the freeway until EVERY single niut and bolt has been addressed, but China is starting to make an impact. It's exciting to see where it goes from here.
Cfmoto just announced a 700 version for Australia, I assume you guys will get it too.
Did you like the seat? Looks like you're more in the bike than on it when in a seated position.
This is a very cool bike for a very cool price. I hope it's successful.
14:37 - Perfect Spite moment...🤣
I've never ridden off-road. I've never had a bike for it, but that looks like a lot of fun. I've been looking at the RE Himalayan and I wonder how it would handle this. Guess it's time to find some reviews.
The REH is a way better bike for offroad.
It's power delivery is anemic, but it will tractor you anywhere you wanna go.
Well, I rode one at an event last year. Can't say that I did too much offroading, but the RE Himalayan eats dirt/gravel roads like they're nothing. I seriously suggest you try one out. At the price they are offered (at least in Europe), I see them as a great option, to be honest.
I have a Himi and it’s wonderful for trails like this. My biggest issue is lack of power on the highway. If the Himi would let me pass traffic it would still be my primary. 👍 Great bike that taught me a ton off road.
The best off road bikes are the Xr 600,Xt 250 and the TT 400
I had to sell mine for personal reasons, but I can say that there are more good things than bad about it, and if you want one depends on what you want to do with it. The bads are: fuelling is crappy in low speeds, very snatch on-off throtle on high speeds, top heavy, fuel consumption a little over average on 5l/100km, factory chain don't last 10000km, false neutrals when using the quickshifter, works hotter than average, but some fuel pump impeller have been recalled. The goods are: full of extras, cruise control works flawlessly, excellent price, tpms, power above average, no need to take to the dealer for software updates, exhaust sound is good, lots of protection from factory, 3 years warranty in Australia.
“Omg fucking really “ I just laughed my ass off. So funny I laugh at your pain.
Also if adv is a sport does that make it a sport bike?
You mentioned how stiff the suspension was. I noticed the suspension was adjustable,, did you adjust it to your weight? Or did you go straight out the box?.
Did you dial back the preload adjustment that I see the forks are equipped with?
That's said, I remember when shade tree, used to do this and do hare scrambles.. I miss that.. glad to see you stepping out of the comfort zones we are most afraid to step out from..
Also, you are in to high of gear..
Rpms,, and slippage...
Didn't have time to set it up. It was just one of their demo bikes.
@@spitescornerfair enough..thanks for your candidness..
Me, when i find I'm going out and off road, I panic, buy a soda, and use the pull tab, and dial the preload as far down as I can get, as I've found sloppy, is better than tight. Contrary to most umm uhhh other intimate situations......
I can't believe this thing is 10k and with all those features as standard holey moley!
Right? It's a steal if you're looking for some touring and light offroad work
It may have "features" but the features aren't tuned properly.
Who cares how many ride modes it has, if they're all snatchy and all have traction control interfere with what you're trying to do? Spite killed the bike a bunch of times. Either he's terrible with the clutch or the mapping is reprehensible on this bike or the TC is nannying the user's inputs and killing the bike.
100hp with bargain basement mapping is going to get people killed. I'd rather have 40hp and no TC, like a KLR, than a 100hp machine that is unpredictable in mud and dirt. I own a Tuareg that I ride in dirt mode at lowest TC level most of the time, with rear ABS disabled. I'm not opposed to TC and similar tech, but it has to actually work.
how is it with a passenger?
if not so heavy the other problem would not have been that bad. that was a little drop to bend the handle bar. hmm but i would stall purchase it long haul road riding where the weight add to comfort and control. im looking at a around trip Los Angeles to Virginia, west beach to east beach and back. stall in the planning stage. would you believe i was thinking a honda rebel to do the trip too, the 300 or the 500, "The small bike challenge throw USA."
this bike is a adv but more for the road for travelling i like it maybe one day gonna buy it but my fjr1300 is superb 2002
I own the Ibex 800 T. As for the throttle, you can perform a TPS reset: bike in neutral, key on, kill switch on, don't start the bike. Open throttle fully for 60 seconds. Close throttle, turn off kill switch, turn off key. That made a world of difference on my bike. Something that really bugs me about the bike is that a message comes up on the screen: MCU SYSTEM FAILURE. The dealership says it is not an actual failure and that cfmoto is going to issue a software update soon to fix the message, but it really bugs me.
Throttle reset helped mine!
I test rode one of these at a CFMoto event about 2 months ago. I was told it was a pre-production model, so there may be some bugs. Bugs was a bit of an understatement as 2 different times on the ride, the throttle, all on its own, just revved for no reason. It was like I had just grabbed the throttle and blipped it to at least 50% in one quick motion - once when I was cruising on the highway in 6th gear, which wasn't that big a deal since it was in a high gear, but the other time I was slowing down to make a right turn at a stop light in 2nd gear, it revved up and jumped forward, nearly colliding with the rider in front of me. Thankfully I instinctively pulled in the clutch when it did, because it did it twice more - had I not been holding the clutch in, I absolutely would've rammed the rider in front of me. I told the CFMoto guys when I came back and they said "yeah it's done that to us, too" at which point I commented that they may wanna keep any relatively inexperienced riders off of it as a noob probably wouldn't have grabbed the clutch soon enough. They agreed.
Now, I get it - pre-production bikes might have some bugs, but that was a BIG bug. Any weird throttle anomalies on your ride?
Copy king strikes again.
And again and again and....
I bought a brand new cfmoto 800MT in europe and same thing happened to me they replaced the spark plugs and wanted to change coils but the parts were not available they couldnt fix it so after a small legal fight they gave me my money back.For parts i had to wait for 3-4 even 6 months to fix it so returned it.