My Substitute for Opera Pink | No Fugitive Colors Allowed!
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I use a mixed palette and have used all of the above. I am able to hack the lilac by using Sennelier’s Rose Madder Lake which does not dull down like Daniel Smith’s quin Rose. If just a touch of straight up PV19 is added then you have a lilac that will not dull down. I have spent years comparing brands and money likewise. It doesn’t take to many quinacridone “pink colors” to achieve the best. Try a small tube and if you want lilac add a touch of straight up PV19 quin violet. I think many will be surprised. I still use DS but I have a very mixed palette and to each their own but I do encourage you to compare the 2 that I mentioned, it took my botanicals to the next level. And one doesn’t need to have a Steven Quiller porcelain palette. Any palette or plate works. The Quiller palette does come in hard plastic also. I use the porcelain one because of what I have to have on hand but it just as well could be a metal or plastic one. The Sennelier’s Rose Madder Lake is so refreshing and mixes beautifully with transparent watercolor to slant towards a salmon color or a vivid lilac to make the brightest purple, I mix mine. The most muted of the group is my Perylene violet. Enjoy painting 😊
Thx for this 😊
Wonderful information. Thank you.
I’m going to put this on my list for my next purchase from the next watercolor sale at Jackson’s…
I believe I heard another person mention this color as being a clear, bright color…
Possibly another sennelier violet that is clear and bright..just can’t recall what name
Thank you again
Quin Lilac is amazing! Please try mixing it with oranges. You will love the results! My favorites are DS Cadmium Orange to make a beautiful raspberry. And then I use WN Cadmium free Scarlet to make a crisp watermelon. Both make a range of berry to brick colors that are pretty in my book. Thank you for the video! 🥰
I love these mixing suggestions. Thank you.
Oh for sure. Those are great mixes and I use them frequently in my floral paintings.
Thank you.
Fun fact… the Winsor & Newton Opera Rose is very very lightfast. Literally more than Prussian blue. I tested it in a south facing hot, dusty window starting in the middle of the Arkansas summer directly in the sun’s rays for SIX MONTHS and guess what? It didn’t fade at all. No- not even a little bit. The fluorescence remained. It was the exact same as the sample that stayed in my dark drawer.
That experiment completely changed my view on LF ratings and I don’t really obsess or care anymore. No one hangs art facing outward toward the sun. Maybe some people have art hanging near a window but not facing outward and not as close to the window as my test.
But it is labelled as fugitive colour in art world
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Thanks for sharing your experience.
We'll have to compare notes at some point. I am a Scientist by training and education but have committed myself 100% to my watercolor for almost 2 years now and I have accumulated about 1600 Professional grade watercolor paints. I've built a home laboratory that includes a spectrophotometer and a microscope. I do like the quin lilac, but Michael Harding's Quinacridone Rose is a superior substitute for Opera Rose. Daniel Smith still has the best watercolor paints in the world, as far as I'm concerned. However, Michael Harding is the Rolls Royce of all watercolors, and they are consistently the most pigmented watercolor available. And when I say pigmented, I mean it literally. As in, it has the most pigment per ml compared to any watercolor brand out there. Far too often when people say "pigmented," all they mean is it it looks bright, and they have no basis for comparison or no real measure of the actual pigment levels. So that's not at all what I mean. I mean the literal and scientifically-provable definition of pigmented.
Thanks for sharing all this valuable information. Others will definitely benefit from your analysis.
Thank You 🥳 Pink Party time 😁💖
🎉 Yes. Did you notice I wore a pink shirt in honor of the subject matter! :-)
Very interesting information. FYI. I started in watercolors 2years ago . I did a ton of research on paints, palettes, brushes, etc. before committing to spending money. I discovered your channel and loved it…still do. In the end I bought the same porcelain palette and paints that you used then. Your color wheel chart was invaluable as well. I have never regretted doing this. Like you I tweak it occasionally, but for the most part it is still like yours. Thank you for helping me to get started in the right direction.
You are very welcome. I'm glad you found the information helpful.
Why are you so nice? I just want to hug you❤ I'm learning watercolor as a mean to work through emotional stuff and I swear you are what any doctor should order!
I am very happy to hear that this content is a joy to you. I was just praying this morning. "Help me to be a joy-bringer"! That is my hope and intention when creating these videos and resources. Have a great day.
@@KrisDeBruineStudio thank you so much for caring.
Well I’m always loving when artists look for substitutions for fugitive colors! And even more you talk using the color pigment number which levels the field for artist trying to find THE pigments NOT the name on the tube, which often has no bearing on the real color. If I were to restart my watercolor journey I would have learned every paint name by its pigment number NOT THE TUBE NAME. Great info, going up to look at my Quin Violet right now! Thanks Kris! ClaudiaSJI
Thank you for sharing your feedback. I appreciate it. I completely agree with you. I started very early focusing on pigment numbers instead of color names and I have found that to be very helpful when comparing paints. I also prefer to use single pigment colors, if possible. This way I feel like I get a better idea of how they mix....when I mix the pigments myself. :-) Have a great day and happy painting!!
Thank you been searching for days for a great lightfast pink. I’m certainly going for the quinacridone lilac by D. S. ❤
You are so welcome!
I like quinacridone red. I can mix it with quin gold for a moderately warm red so I don’t need another red.
But Quinn rose matches pink more
Hi. Thanks for adding a comment. Are you using Daniel Smith Watercolors? If so, I see that Quin Red is made from PV19. The same pigment as used in Quin Rose. It looks beautiful. I'm glad you found something you LOVE. Have a great day!!
Thx... love the Quin Lilac
You're welcome. Thanks for watching
I love your videos. You always have something to teach me! Thank you, Kris!
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching and leaving feedback. ~Kris
My go to for a nice pink is quinacridone magenta by Qor.
Wonderful. I love it. Thanks for sharing.
This is so helpful. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and making this video for us.
You're welcome
I always love your clear simple videos. I am going to go and mix these combos now in my sketchbook. Thanks for the inspiration.
Have fun!
Thank you for sharing with us. Very informative.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
Thank you Kris! I'm ordering quin lilac and can't wait to try it:))
Wonderful! Hope you LOVE it.
GREAT VIDEO KRIS ! LOVED THE MIXING RESULTS OF QUIN LILAC ! THANK YOU!!!
You are so welcome!
I really enjoyed seeing your color mixing.
Thanks Tracy! Nice to see you here on CZcams! :-)
Wonderful info, thank you!!!
You are so welcome!
Wow... excellent research..very interesting 👌👌👌
Glad you liked it
I use DS Quinacridone Pink PV42 as a substitute but I also have Quinacridone Magenta PR122 from W&N.
Yes. I've heard PV42 is another great substitute. Thanks for sharing.
This was so helpful! Thank you! I’m obsessed with opera pink but I don’t like selling paintings when I use this pigment! I will be picking up Quin. Lilac!
Glad it was helpful!
Very interesting
Thanks
Thank you for this awesome little video! I am just starting to play with watercolours after only really using oils, pastels, pencils and gouache. The colour mixes are eye opening - I had no idea that so much was possible! Thank you again Kris, I hope that your channel grows :)
Welcome to watercolor. I hope you grow to love it, more and more. Thanks for the feedback and for your well-wishes. I appreciate it.
Wow! I'm shock that quin lilac can make such wonderful mixes ❤
It deserves a better place in my pallet.
It is a beautiful color.
Thanks I learn a lot
You're welcome
I've used quinacradone gold for the first time.
It's beautiful.
Yes it is.
Would Permanent Rose Madder work, or is it too weak? I do have and use Quin Lilac frequently. I save Opera Pink for sketchbook work. Thank you so much for the free downloads!
Hi. It is difficult to answer this question. I'm not sure the manufacturer or pigment number of the color you're referring to. But in the Daniel Smith line, Rose Madder Permanent is made up of three pigments: PR209, PV19 and PR202. I tend to prefer single pigment colors and do the mixing myself. But, that said....the paint has a lightfast rating of 1 (or excellent). It is also transparent....so it might be a bit "light". I can't give my specific feedback, because I've never used it nor do I own it. To answer the question: "would it work?" YES! If you like it and it makes your heart sing, then "go for it!!" I hope this helps. BTW. I encourage my students to analyze watercolor paints more by the pigment recipe and not the name. The names can vary widely by manufacturer and can be quite meaningless. Hope this helps. ~Kris
i got this color on a whim a few months ago, and it quickly became a favorite: )
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I'm not that advanced but very learning experience.thanks
You are welcome!
well you sold me, time to make a purchase!
:-) I hope you love it.
@@KrisDeBruineStudio used your link as a thank you for the information =]
@@ameh78 thank you
You're welcome!
If you don’t want to purchase another “tube color” couldn’t I use Perm rose with my Pthalo blue (the blue shade of it) to have background gradient from top (Pthalo blue) (wet on wet) down to (Perm rose) & where two met get (light purple blend)?
Trying to use limited pallet & truly can’t afford more & not selling my art & dyes can act strange for me. Tyvm & going to test out Perm rose as not getting more if works fine.
Yes. That could work wonderfully. Give it a try and let us know.
Hi Kris, what is a good lightfast substitution for Alizarin Crimson?
Permanent Alizarin Crimson. The word "permanent" in the name signifies lightfastness. Hope this helps.
Thank you for this video🤗Maybe you know the reason why "Opera Pink" is called by this name?
Opera dresses??
But w&n’ s opera pink is good because it looks exact like opera pink but there is no flu. And what do I do if a bought 10ml opera pink from Daniel smith 15 ml brilliant opera pink from schmincke and 5 ml from w&n ( our country doesn’t sell any opera pink so I bought for the rest of my life )
I encourage my students to use whatever paint they have. But also be aware of the fugitive pigment issue. Have a great day.
The problem with Winsor Newton's Opera is that most of it is dyes. I've been isolating the pigment out of their paint, and they are consistently the most dishonest in terms of the pigments that they use. Because most of what they use are dyes.
Can art be purpose of the life? I cant believe it as purpose usually i think is useful to others
Since you asked I will share my perspective. 😊 For me, the purpose of life is "to love God and enjoy Him forever". That is my ultimate purpose. But a part of "enjoying God" is enjoying the creation He has given us and come alongside God in the creative process. When I paint, I am creating beauty and I feel that is a way I can express my love for God. Of course, in the end, my creative work might also be helpful, useful and encouraging to others. So maybe both views are correct. Have a lovely day and enjoy your CREATIVE endeavors today! :-)