Another brilliant video. Best way to do calculations is to put a $ sign in front of the number then you always get the right answer (or at least it works for me using a £ sign here in Scotland)....
Very helpful tear down and rebuild for both ends of that awesome machine. Fun stuff! I give that pvc spacer about another year before you get an unexpected low rider experience. As they deteriorate and the micro plastics clog up your new valves you’ll feel your dampening get wonky. Good luck and I truly wish you safe travels. Thanks for sharing your “non-adventure” experience!
Thanks for another video, really enjoy your relaxed vibe, on a more technical level… Although PVC is oil resistant I would have no peace of mind with it there, specially because the way it breaks, just my two cents, wish all the best
Brilliant videos, agree with all your comments on the stock bike , mines the same, I fitted a Hagon rear which was a minor improvement ( the original was leaking anyway at 5500 miles) . Great scenery and humour .Better weather than the Uk .I want your workshop .Cheers
G’day Adrian, thanks for your videos on the two bikes and all the modifications and upgrades on them. Look forward to seeing you at Jerry’s for a chat one day. You’ve got a great workshop mate with all the tools that “could come in handy one day”.
A very well composed video. It looks like Scotland with the mist at the start. The third hand made me look twice. I have to say the pvc pipe would scare the crap out of me waiting for it to shatter, but it is warmer down under most of the time. Had a quick look on eBay, round aluminium billet for a few £. Just my tuppence worth, as I would not be happy to say nothing 👍🏴
Missed opportunity for a separate video (series?) on proper side-stand use and, a tutorial on “ how to pick up your bike before anyone sees you.” Nice work, as always. Cheers 🇨🇦
An 8mm travel gain is minimal; I suspect that fresh springs with linear rate is the bigger difference especially if you do actually go off tarmac. Nice video. 👍🇬🇧
Hey buddy, I have the same problem with my honda ADV scooter. I just got it serviced a month ago, got the fork oil replaced but after riding it for 2k km, I noticed the sag got worse like when i sit on my bike, more than half of the fork travel is used already. I’m thinking it’s probably because of the springs which have gotten soft now. Thanks for the idea. I’m planning to get my springs replaced soon. Ride safe! 😊
@@os1350 When you pull the springs out of the forks, for sure the height stays the same just like the brand new ones but the thing is, the springs actually get soft over time and no longer have the same resistance as it once were. I suggest you get new springs and I guarantee you, you would feel like riding a brand new bike/scooter suspension wise. Hope this helps 😊
@@japhdanaoofficial2205 thanks or your comment. In the meantime I checked the length and is has the original length of 395mm. The spring should be changed when it is shorter than 387mm (-8mm), according the Honda manual. If the spring gets weak with original length, how soft it must be when ist is already 8mm shorter? I have to dismantle, clean it and check if everything is ok. The exchange of the spring itself is done in a short time. Best regards
instead of steel, PVC pipe? would plastic be able take the weight an repeated pressure of impact ? I am not sure if plastic is a good substitute to stee!
PVC? Not sure it would be strong enough. There is a fair bit of sideways bend pressure when lifting. Anyway the weight saving just on those three lengths of pipe would be minimal. Most of the weight is in the ratchet itself.
What is the PVC tube you used? I just want to make additional preload spacers for my fork and want to use same PVC tube. According your video, the external diameter shoudl be 33.88mm
Okay Piano Man! Do you think the pvc will become brittle and shatter? If it does, what do you reckon you should replace it with? Another interesting video for another NC rider.
Watching your fork upgrades and found it interesting that you used pvc for the new longer spacers. So I was wondering is there any danger that the pvc being not as strong as metal could they break or crack over time or is there no load on the spacers at all?👍🏍
As the springs compress, load is put on the spacers. However, the PVC is very strong under compression along it’s length. If I had aluminium tube to hand I may have used that. But the PVC is holding up just fine.
It might be possible but not recommended. Changing the oil also involves draining the gunk that accumulates. And this involves flushing and upending the fork.
Hi dear friend from Turkey. I just wanna ask a few questions about front of suspensions . First question is where did u buy front shock-absorbing decorative cover? Second question is is that really useful? Sometimes we ride performancely so we need to make to a bit hard so and sometimes we do touring and want to make it solft . So is that really worth buy them ? Thanks in advance.
You're videos have saved me a fortune by giving me the confidence to do these jobs myself - thanks for your time! When you were drilling the holes for the PD valves how did you know where to place the holes? Is there a website that shows accurate instructions for installation as the YSS instructions don't mention anything about drilling? Much appreciated! 🏴
YSS now say it’s not required to drill these holes for the NC. But I can’t understand that, as drilling the holes allows the PD valves to work. Anyway, it’s not critical where the extra holes are. Thule just need to be above and close to the existing holes.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff That confused me as well with the YSS Royal Enfield 650 kit, sure enough though it worked fine and a huge improvement in initial responsiveness (Sorcery). With little to no instructions to go by for my 2018 CTX700 I ordered a set of fork tubes to pre drill before tear down... I do not want to deal with the tupperware (full fairing version) but once if at all possible (Between valve lash checks anyway)
gday mate when i had to butcher my top spring cap after some idiot did it up to 10000lbf i used some heat on it which in turn melted the spacer,i ordered another one from honda at a high price but a chap on the 500x forum suggested exactly what you did with the pvc pipe there still in there and the honda one is in a box dont be to hard on your friend they dont call them bm troubleyou for nothing .
Hi my name is Clauduio I am an Italian retiree, I own a Honda nc 750 like yours only from 2015. I would like to know where you bought the footrests, and the front fork valves with relative springs? Thanks and best regards
Footrests - bought on eBay. Just search honda nc750x foot rest. The list I bought from is no longer available. Fork valves - are YSS. Search internet for YSS supplier in your country.
Well, since there's NOTHING on the marked, I could think of - to replace my NC750X, now I'm revising this video - may be I will change the springs too.....🙄 Thanks again ! 👍👍👍👍👍 ......Why did Honda have to fu..k up the 2021 model ?!? 🤢😣😕🤬
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff I see you struggling with a small jack where your bike can tilt at any time or a stick under your side stand 😜 so I said to you what about a centered stand. Easier and safer.
Another brilliant video.
Best way to do calculations is to put a $ sign in front of the number then you always get the right answer
(or at least it works for me using a £ sign here in Scotland)....
Very helpful tear down and rebuild for both ends of that awesome machine. Fun stuff! I give that pvc spacer about another year before you get an unexpected low rider experience. As they deteriorate and the micro plastics clog up your new valves you’ll feel your dampening get wonky. Good luck and I truly wish you safe travels. Thanks for sharing your “non-adventure” experience!
Thanks mate.
I’ll disagree on the pvc though. It’s still perfect.
My best friend often saying that the technicians must have a third hand for best results...now I know why...nice useful video, thank you.
1:39 The NC750XD with a trailer 😂😂😂
Great job my friend👍
Another high quality vid. Glad bikes OK after the mishap! Thank You.
Blessed are those who have a lathe said a guy without one often.............
Safe rides 👍🏍🙏
Thanks for another video, really enjoy your relaxed vibe, on a more technical level… Although PVC is oil resistant I would have no peace of mind with it there, specially because the way it breaks, just my two cents, wish all the best
It will be fine.
Brilliant videos, agree with all your comments on the stock bike , mines the same, I fitted a Hagon rear which was a minor improvement ( the original was leaking anyway at 5500 miles) . Great scenery and humour .Better weather than the Uk .I want your workshop .Cheers
Great entertaining video as always, I'll keep this in mind when I need to replace mine in a few years time.
G’day Adrian, thanks for your videos on the two bikes and all the modifications and upgrades on them. Look forward to seeing you at Jerry’s for a chat one day. You’ve got a great workshop mate with all the tools that “could come in handy one day”.
Sunday 8am is our normal coffee time but we went today (Saturday) as its supposed to be lots of rain tomorrow.
I like your workshop videos!
Absolutely superb videos!!! Invaluable!!!
A very well composed video.
It looks like Scotland with the mist at the start. The third hand made me look twice.
I have to say the pvc pipe would scare the crap out of me waiting for it to shatter, but it is warmer down under most of the time.
Had a quick look on eBay, round aluminium billet for a few £.
Just my tuppence worth, as I would not be happy to say nothing 👍🏴
That chip pan on your lathe is genius!
Yes. It stops chips landing on the ways. Thanks
The standard set of springs shakes my teeth in some roads in Kent uk , I also had a tired bike in the shed 😆
Hi Adrian. Thanks for the chuckle. Nothing better than two cute puppies! 😉🤭
Hmmm. I’m sure I don’t know what you mean 🤪
You are amazing
Bless you
Thanks for all your videos
Missed opportunity for a separate video (series?) on proper side-stand use and, a tutorial on “ how to pick up your bike before anyone sees you.”
Nice work, as always. Cheers 🇨🇦
Ha! Yes. A missed opportunity to show more fully what an idiot I am!
The motorbike bit was good, but nice welding setup! I'm jealous of that!
6:11 man..what a wonderful job!
Like your style, good job, enjoy
Backyard tinkerer = really nice welds!!
another very informative video thanks.
as always thanks ...from Florida....
Love the poetry
Great Video as usual, Thanks. I would not have removed the forks either.
That was excellent.
ما شاء الله اللهم بارك اخي العزيز
Excellent 3rd hand 👍
Yes. I was pleased how it turned out. Very “handy”.
An 8mm travel gain is minimal; I suspect that fresh springs with linear rate is the bigger difference especially if you do actually go off tarmac. Nice video. 👍🇬🇧
Yes. I agree
Thanks
"Easy job to replace" he says after needing to fabricate a custom tool and new spacers.
"Just a tinkerer" he says then moves over to the lathe.... which was clean!
@@stevebolton8471 Right!? Back-yard tinkerers don't have a lathe and welder. I'm lucky if I have the right screw driver. :)
I more amazed he didn't want to run out and get a deepwell socket. It looked like more of a flex and an excuse to use those fancy tools of his.
Hey buddy, I have the same problem with my honda ADV scooter. I just got it serviced a month ago, got the fork oil replaced but after riding it for 2k km, I noticed the sag got worse like when i sit on my bike, more than half of the fork travel is used already. I’m thinking it’s probably because of the springs which have gotten soft now. Thanks for the idea. I’m planning to get my springs replaced soon. Ride safe! 😊
Same with me.
I have already 55000km on the bike. Have to check if the springs still have the original length.
Did you find your reason?
@@os1350 When you pull the springs out of the forks, for sure the height stays the same just like the brand new ones but the thing is, the springs actually get soft over time and no longer have the same resistance as it once were. I suggest you get new springs and I guarantee you, you would feel like riding a brand new bike/scooter suspension wise. Hope this helps 😊
@@japhdanaoofficial2205 thanks or your comment. In the meantime I checked the length and is has the original length of 395mm. The spring should be changed when it is shorter than 387mm (-8mm), according the Honda manual.
If the spring gets weak with original length, how soft it must be when ist is already 8mm shorter?
I have to dismantle, clean it and check if everything is ok. The exchange of the spring itself is done in a short time.
Best regards
G'Day, do these mods make the suspension more supple as I find the standard setup terrible. Thanks for the great videos. Cheers
Spring and PD valve combination is the answer
instead of steel, PVC pipe? would plastic be able take the weight an repeated pressure of impact ? I am not sure if plastic is a good substitute to stee!
PVC? Not sure it would be strong enough. There is a fair bit of sideways bend pressure when lifting.
Anyway the weight saving just on those three lengths of pipe would be minimal.
Most of the weight is in the ratchet itself.
What is the PVC tube you used? I just want to make additional preload spacers for my fork and want to use same PVC tube. According your video, the external diameter shoudl be 33.88mm
The pvc replace the original steel spacers. Neither the standard or replacement springs are as long as the fork tubes.
Okay Piano Man!
Do you think the pvc will become brittle and shatter? If it does, what do you reckon you should replace it with?
Another interesting video for another NC rider.
Not concerned
Watching your fork upgrades and found it interesting that you used pvc for the new longer spacers. So I was wondering is there any danger that the pvc being not as strong as metal could they break or crack over time or is there no load on the spacers at all?👍🏍
As the springs compress, load is put on the spacers. However, the PVC is very strong under compression along it’s length.
If I had aluminium tube to hand I may have used that. But the PVC is holding up just fine.
YSS has diffrent rates, which ones are these?
Thanks for this brilliant video. Is it possible to change the forks oil by sucking it out and pour new oil? Without taking them out of the bike.
It might be possible but not recommended.
Changing the oil also involves draining the gunk that accumulates. And this involves flushing and upending the fork.
That's one job I have to do.
Hi dear friend from Turkey. I just wanna ask a few questions about front of suspensions .
First question is where did u buy front shock-absorbing decorative cover?
Second question is is that really useful?
Sometimes we ride performancely so we need to make to a bit hard so and sometimes we do touring and want to make it solft .
So is that really worth buy them ?
Thanks in advance.
You're videos have saved me a fortune by giving me the confidence to do these jobs myself - thanks for your time! When you were drilling the holes for the PD valves how did you know where to place the holes? Is there a website that shows accurate instructions for installation as the YSS instructions don't mention anything about drilling? Much appreciated! 🏴
YSS now say it’s not required to drill these holes for the NC. But I can’t understand that, as drilling the holes allows the PD valves to work.
Anyway, it’s not critical where the extra holes are. Thule just need to be above and close to the existing holes.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff thanks for the reply it's appreciated! 👍
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Front and rear suspension now done. What a difference, it feels like a new bike! Thanks again for your great videos! 🏴👍
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff That confused me as well with the YSS Royal Enfield 650 kit, sure enough though it worked fine and a huge improvement in initial responsiveness (Sorcery). With little to no instructions to go by for my 2018 CTX700 I ordered a set of fork tubes to pre drill before tear down... I do not want to deal with the tupperware (full fairing version) but once if at all possible (Between valve lash checks anyway)
A new career in song writing is waiting for you. Nice welding and lathe work. I need a new shock for the rear of the CB500x.
Ha! I’ve got Billy Joel to thank for the words I mongrelised. 😁
gday mate when i had to butcher my top spring cap after some idiot did it up to 10000lbf i used some heat on it which in turn melted the spacer,i ordered another one from honda at a high price but a chap on the 500x forum suggested exactly what you did with the pvc pipe there still in there and the honda one is in a box dont be to hard on your friend they dont call them bm troubleyou for nothing .
Ha! Good to hear about the spacers.
And my friend takes the BM bashing, knowing that everyone is just jealous of him 😜
Cool Billy Joel reference....
U r super 🌹
Hi there, you have a very detailed and informative video there.
Are you interested in filming a rim decal sticker installation video?
Hi my name is Clauduio I am an Italian retiree, I own a Honda nc 750 like yours only from 2015. I would like to know where you bought the footrests, and the front fork valves with relative springs? Thanks and best regards
Footrests - bought on eBay. Just search honda nc750x foot rest. The list I bought from is no longer available.
Fork valves - are YSS. Search internet for YSS supplier in your country.
Well, since there's NOTHING on the marked, I could think of - to replace my NC750X, now I'm revising this video - may be I will change the springs too.....🙄 Thanks again ! 👍👍👍👍👍
......Why did Honda have to fu..k up the 2021 model ?!? 🤢😣😕🤬
I wonder you build real personal workshop at home :)
Ye... I forgot - a whole workshop and a set of skills at various mechanics are needed to own the NC750X 😆
Aren’t you concerned about the the pvc spacers you made becomeing brittle and disintegrating.?
No
Where are your engine guards?
Never had engine guards on the NC. Wendy has engine guards on her CB500X.
there's more BM'Z being traded in now than ever.
You're also could have wound the preload adjusters in a bit :-)
True for removing. But makes it more difficult when installing as you have to compress the spring more as you screw in the cap.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff fair enough.
How did he fit the top caps in the first place?
how about a center stand
Sorry. Don’t understand the question in relation to replacing fork springs?
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff I see you struggling with a small jack where your bike can tilt at any time or a stick under your side stand 😜 so I said to you what about a centered stand. Easier and safer.
Ok. Understand. My NC has a centre stand but the CB500X doesn’t. The 500X is lowered so a centre stand would compromise cornering ground clearance.
The length of spring sucks.
I think a more useful addition to your machine would be a centre stand.
Maybe you missed multiple references to it HAVING a centre stand and be using it.
dude, go buy a freaking socket