An Honest Conversation About NBA Players Who Don’t Love the Game | DeMar and PG
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2023
- DeMar and PG talk about if there's some truth to only 50% of NBA players love the game #nba #nbaplayoffs
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I think Paul George is good at podcasting.
So superstar pg13 reads these tweets.. so Paul, you rather spend time on this podcast than chase the chip?!! You left brodie in the trenches when this was literally your best chance to win?! Just kidding it's all gravy.. if it were me I'd play w broken feet and hands just to have a shot.. even kd sacrificed his Achilles vs the raps.. it's all gravy, you're still a great player and there's always next year.. maybe 😂.. haha maybe brodie will carry you and kawhi and Co for another title shot 😎👍
@@deekay7594 bum
@@deekay7594 bruh u on the couch but its all gravy
@@sepko1012 🤣 that's your assumption or loathing self hate.. you think everyone on CZcams comments is low level or black pill couch potatoes bros? What are you doing here then? Lol.. ok ok pg and Melo are fairly successful but hey if someone told them to tighten up they would have rings and already too.late for melo .. the odds of you sepko of just being another bro are pretty high 😉👌 lol nothing wrong w that too lol..and what's wrong w being a couch potato? Someone has to pay the nba ers cheques ha
@@deekay7594 pg is injured. You are healthy right? And what're you doing rn? Exactly bum
DeMar a real one for sure
Fo sho
What does this mean exactly? I keep seeing people saying it and commenting it in basketball/nba social media circles
@@redaderoua8816no fakeness to him . High character with pure intentions & dignity
He's old school, for sure 😅
Especially him pointing out pg personal comeback story.
Paul George seems like a phenomenal locker room leader.
unfortunately the clippers don’t see him that way, there’s stories of him trying to rally the locker room and nobody cares
@@ghettohamburgler9105 what are those stories?
Podcast-P is too legit to quit! 😅
Leader?)))))
Until a better opportunity comes along
"Mention my boi"
The way PG said Lamelo 😂
He didn’t wanna put him with ant and jt
lolmelo
What I will say about melo is that he does love basketball, I remember the hornets gm saying that when melo first arrived in Charlotte (bearing in mind he came early) the first thing he asked for was for him to find somewhere to practice and get shots up even though it was late at night. He also has just been injured for ages
@@tolubewaji8766 I feel like his reputation somewhat still is taking a hit because of lavar
He just didnt want to disrespect that other dude but on PG's mind he was like "😒 man gtfo here. This my opinion, u dont need to put your thoughts on mine." Jeez sounds so fuckin insecure.
DeMar comes across as a solid dude and a good role model for basketball fans. I wish the best for him as his career progresses.
Toronto still loves him.
No cap, gotta love DeMar
i would like to see him and draymond have their own talk show after they retire you can add paul george they seem smart when they talk
DeAndre ayton be like
LOLOL
Ben Simmons
It’s impressive that there’s guys in the NBA who don’t practice but still made it. Just shows how talented they were. I bust my ass and didn’t make college ball.
Right so why tf would they practice if they never had to
@@Syrvivorr bc the competition gets younger and harder every year you’re in professional sports.
@@kilduce4423 facts
They all probably worked their ass before coming to the NBA
Nah they worked it’s just now that there there they lack true motivation and treat it like a 9-5 I’m here did my work pay me I’ll se yah later
Demar should be permanently on the pod
if they mute "you know what I mean"
He needs to be on the clips with pg and kawhi
They dont live together😂
@@clutch7548 I almost forgot they’re still active players . 😂
Absolutely
Damn just yesterday these guys were the next generation now they talking about back in my day, time flies
We all know they're talking about Bum Simmons 😂
Ben Simmons definitely one of those guys another player that comes to mind is Ktowns and Wiggins.
@@KingLouOG I think with Wiggins it really came down to being drafted to a horrible organisation
@@KingLouOGMinnesota Wiggins, for sure, but Golden State Wiggins is a born again baller.
@@user-vc8wi7ff1j i think what made minny horrible was the fact that they invested without putting down a culture though
Like if you think about what made Minnesota lackluster is the fact that they paid wiggs and kat before jimmy, and jimmy is the only one i can genuinely say has the ability to lead a team to a chip
I think wigs came in unmotivated off rip, and became more desperate when he got traded to a team like the dubs cause he knows that's his last real big chance
😂😂😂
Poole got 130mil and dropped ZERO points in an nba playoff game😂😂 if that’s not the heist of the century idk what is🤷🏽♂️
Sometimes people have a bad game. I mean, we’ve all had a game where we’ve been so off, a simple layup feels weird and we miss. That’s just how it is. Now if he went a series like that. That’s some shit. But I’ve seen some 30ppg players drop close to zero in a game. Not an excuse for a poor performance when you’re paid millions. It’s just and understanding of how it can happen.
Poole averaged 20 off the bench in the season
@@Kj-do-too-much yeah good in season trash in whole playoffs
He’s the first player who came to mind
Bruh Ben Simmons
thank you paul george for this glorious insight on the game. it was greatly appreciated, especially that CBA part.
Once money, politics, media etc are involved I can see how the game can become a “Job” more than a “Loved hobby”. A high percentage of these guys have been playing the game so long with everyone around them noticing the talent immediately at young ages. Inconspicuously they start to push “NBA, NBA, NBA” into the players’ head never caring if they love the game or is doing it just to generate life altering money for loved ones that alone can kill the love of the game making it just another job just one with a large pay sum. Whole time the person is unhappy and rather be doing something else but carry on…
Exactly. I think it will be very soon that the best players no longer play in the NBA. Sports will evolve. There’s athletes who actually perform better outside the rigid corporate NBA environment. I would never PLAY in the NBA.
So true. Money, politics, teammates, coaches, all that could kill the love for the game. I think it's probably rare for guys to still love it with all the extra stuff to be honest.
Dennis Rodman said it best "We play basketball for free, but get paid for all the other bs that comes along with being in the NBA" or something to that degree
There's a lot of evidence that when people get paid for something they enjoy doing naturally, they stop enjoying it. Look up extrinsic vs intrinsic motivation
That’s wild to me. I once thought most, if not all loved the game. If I’m getting paid millions & have a shot to get 1-2 max contracts, I’m staying in the gym. Especially if I’m young with no real responsibilities.
Nah I think these guys are conflating the NBA as a business and an employee to actually basketball the game. Majority of players love the game basketball but a lot don’t like politics and professional aspect of it
@@newrecruit100 That makes sense, but it's unreal how those players are so talented that they are able to experience being in the league and getting paid millions of dollars to play ball, and just take it for granted. Like, what motivation do they lack? 7-9 hours a day in the gym / practicing / watching film, diet plans with the best nutritionists available, those millions, supporting their families... who wouldn't give everything they have for that opportunity.
130 million over 5 years will make I would say 85 percent of people complacent
@@NeedDuts but it’s not million dollars to just play ball. It’s demanding and not for everybody. The higher up the ranks you go on basketball the less enjoyable it gets because it’s a grind. The purity gets lost. It’s no longer just playing in the park. It’s a lot into it. With some people you dream and aspire to something and then you get there it’s not what it is. You just said 7-9 hours in the gym everyday etc. i wouldn’t enjoy that lol. That’s demanding.
@@newrecruit100 Totally understand, and agree, with everything you just said. And mind that I'm not downplaying on what it takes to reach this level. But it still is playing ball for millions. Everyday they step on the court could be their last day of working in that field. It's their job to play ball. They've fought for this all these years, through AAUs and tryouts, HS and college. Like PG and DeMar said, they can feel who does not love the game. If a player only shines when his contract is about to be up, then he is just a bad professional. That's literally comparable to an employee being hired for 1 year, do jack shit for 11 months and be the employee of the month in the last one. We should point out these athlets Also, we shouldn't blame the hard lifestyle.
As a Raps fan, I’m still sad about how Derozan was treated when he was traded. He’s a top notch human being.
100% I live on Toronto I like DeRozan but his game so so but they did him wrong
@@davidchandler6885 Obviously we got better as a team. And watching him in the playoffs was brutal. But they stabbed him in the back. It’s been cool seeing him evolve into a better player into his 30’s. Hope he knows there’s a lot of love for him in Toronto.
His game so so? Demar carried the raptors for years lol
@@ew8311 his game has got better, they might have win a total with his total game now
@@chadwellington2524his game is so so in the right context. He’s obviously a good player, but he has shrunk in the playoffs PLENTY of times. And I like Derozan
As a wolves fan, the fact that P mentioned Anthony Edwards by name as a guy who has the fire warms my heart. I’m old enough to remember when his biggest red flag pre draft was if he even loved basketball.
Old enough to remember? It was like 3 years ago they were talking about that
@@StoneBuzzard Thats the joke
@@Wooden_iguana14it didn't make sense tho
@@truzzprod.8191 im old enough to remember when people could understand sarcasm/irony, you must not be
@@Wooden_iguana14 Are you old enough to remember some people can't pull it off?
I remember when Jerry West was making 200,000 dollars a year, and people thought it was unheard of. The ball players back then would have real jobs when the season was over.
like plumbing and electrical work right?
don't worry I'll see myself out
Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain literally played with plumbers and firemen
@@micheldenostredame. of course, even the finals were not shown live, you saw it on replay. The nba wasn't an instant get rich quick theme. I knew Wilt, and he was massive human being, when he shook your hand your hand literally disappeared in his palm. I don't know what jobs they had, but I'm sure some could have been technicians.
Being in the gym constantly is a must. The assistant coaches are gonna be there while you work and they will most certainly be in the head coaches ear about your work and development.
Demar really is one of those players where with every move you can tell how much time he takes to practice it.
He makes it look effortless but complex at the same time. Kinda like Kobe and Carmelo
Great back and forth. Love the honesty between active NBA stars. Podcast P is here to stay !!
Just found this love to hear nba players talk about off the court stuff to makes people appreciate their voices more! Respect ✊🏻
Great convo and yeah it definitely shows. Players like PG13 and Demar D are greatly appreciated!💯
Paul George seems like a guy that understands that he's more than a basketball player.
While he's great at it, he seems like he understands the bigger picture in life.
Just seems that way, I don't know him or anything.
Like, he doesn't walk around like he's better than you because he has millions.
Again, no idea, he just comes off as cool people.
well said
PG come from Palmdale look it up that’s why he’s humble, everyone over here don’t got money like that
Nah he talks as if he knows guys are watching so he's very honest but says it in a way that someone can't take it as HATE. He respects how hard this is and where he sits in the NBA landscape. He's aging like Wine. Hope he's healthy all year
They would rather sit on a video game rather than work on their own game that’s a bar 💯
Just say Karl-Anthony Towns
😂😂😂
ben simmons
😂😂😂
Fr, the moment they mentioned spending more time gaming then training, Kat was the first guy 😂
Deandre Ayton
This is a great clip, this reminds me of when I’m having conversations with my friends from high school about the younger generation😂
It's kinda funny and awesome how Paul George's podcasting is as smooth as his game.
love you from Argentina Paul, keep showing your good game! is amazing watching you playing.
Thumbnail looks crazy 😂
😂😂
Love this conversation
He talking about Ayton
I had no idea how well you communicate, PG...Great job, my brotha.👍✌️🙏
Thank you❤ for this talk
DeMar definitely got better year after year. You could tell he was working hard.
Love the basketball discussion but Jackie Long’s personality on this show is lightning in a bottle 😂😂😂
They could honestly do without him
@@abihamal7874 I feel that but I think it’d be kinda boring with just PG and the other dude. Jackie adds more of the layman/fan energy that lightens up the convo
Dope podcast with great guest...We need Lance as a guest soon!
Thank you PG! Appreciate you!
Paul is the real deal. I enjoy watching him cook opponents. Definitely, one of the best to ever play the game!!!
This is very interesting because in essence what it says is that no matter what level you are there is always an upper end, a middle and a lower end of performance. Your performance just shifts with the population. So just like a McDonald's has a super star kiosk worker and some have an average kiosk worker etc.
The faces in the thumbnail bruh 😹😹😹
Demar is dropping knowledge in general here. Work hard folks and stop complaining about why you not getting that promotion or raise. The mindset should be it's not their fault, it's mine. Even if some of our destiny in our careers are out of control, it does us no good feeling sorry for ourselves. Go out and grind. Otherwise be honest with yourself and find something you love. 💯
applying that to the average person is like, you’re a victim of propaganda. the people with actual power want you to see everything in terms of personal responsibility so you don’t notice how you’re getting fucked. politically impotent mindset
never be this much of a cuck to a business or corporation lmao
Nah G I need that promotion lol I'm not those millionaires
Lil diff thats getting taken advantage of
@@kelseykjarsgaard5774yeah OP trying to compare these athletes who make millions of dollars already to the average Joe who gets fleeced by their corporate overlords lmfao ain’t no one working for less “for the love of the game” at a 9-5 😂
kobe was right, why would he pass the ball to someone who doesn't put the work in and loves the craft
They make a good point about how if a generation all slack off the nba as a product will suffer and league revenue will shrink meaning less money for the next contract, and it hurts the next generation and the sport itself.
Same thing with load management becoming widespread
DeMar and PG have some of the best footwork in the game. You can tell they work hard on that.
It's rare to come across a job where all workers are passionate about their work. For a lot of people, their job is solely a source of income to sustain their livelihood.
Lol at the Ben Simmons shade in the first 2 min
Man the new Carl Johnson graphics is insane!
At the end of the day, the NBA is like any other work place. You have coworkers at your job who certainly don't love the job they're in.
Love DeRozan. He is one player I truly admire. Like Jimmy Butler he just works his ass off to be best at his job.
Amazing podcast
These some young OGs man Time is an illusion
it’s crazy to think someone can make it professional in a sport and not care or love what they doing
People do it with jobs everyday. It’s human nature.
That's how talented some of these dudes are. My buddy played D2 ball. In high school they had a player who never worked on his game, but would blow everybody away in practice. He said he was so quick that there was nothing they could do to stop him. He ended up playing D1 and pro overseas.
It's called a job. To most athletes it's the same thing, only they get paid a whole lot more.
Never mind loving the game.
Sounds like a lot of guys don’t even take playing in the NBA as an actual job.
They don’t approach it as professionals.
That turns me off from the NBA even more.
Probably the best basketball podcast out right now
1:03 a good point by DeMar. Players playing a video game rather than working on their own game.
Demar is the best and underrated
PG should’ve teamed up with DeMar instead of Kawhi
@@cortezttd6225 yep, kawhi is better but ye
I love DeMar as a person but he never won a big game in the playoffs. He would have been a better fit than Westbrook though :)
Remember, the Spurs settled for Demar in place of Kawhi.
this thumbnail with the closeups got me crying lmao
As much as the NBA and the media like to make it all seem like hard work and loving the game will get you to the NBA, the truth they don't tell kids is that if you don't have talent and size you're not going regardless of "love of the game" and "hard work beats talent". The most successful have love and competitiveness but plenty are probably still in the league on talent alone.
I see why DeMar is so respected around the league, aside from his outstanding play
I feel like as the newer generation comes and Players are getting paid for everything they do, You can really see how people don’t love the game and you can tell who actually loves the game of ball. Kyrie Irving says he doesn’t Play basketball or watch basketball outside of the nba sometimes you can see that he doesn’t love the game, even tho he’s just so talented and naturally gifted, Ben simmions you can see that he doesn’t love the game. But players like Lebron, Giannis, Russ, Demar, Paul George, even Pat Bev you can tell they actually love the game of basketball cause of the chip they put themselves through. And I feel like the nba not penalizing players on certain shit just further ingrave that players don’t love ball like they claim they do. For example Ja morant who’s about to get damn near 200m, I feel like yeah he loved basketball until he become a superstar and got money now he wants to act up and do all this stupid shit, and It’s like If you really love basketball and understood that you can get kicked out the nba if you keep it up then you would know to stop
Not gonna lie, I feel like Kyrie's skills are so good he can't not love bball. He might like other stuff as well, but as a like 6"2 guy with all them skills, you cant not love bball. Kyrie looks like the type of dude who would dribble the ball all day home to school, trying something new everytime
Kyrie definitely loves the game. I think he was saying it isn’t the end all be all to him though. But he definitely loves the game, he thinks of it as an art which it is. He’s a big student of the game and has studied the greats and shown a lot of respect to former and current players and even watches the WNBA and stuff.
You have no idea what you are talking about
stfu don’t ever diss Kyrie
Speaking of that olympics team, if Demar would've made that 360 poster I would've cried bro no 🧢
This is why the overseas players like Jokic Giannis Luka and Wembayana are the future...people like Zion and Morant are embarrassing to American basketball
PG just laughed it off when dude brought up Lamelo💀💀💀
5:40 bruhh y PG laugh at that🤣🤣🤣
Lol lol
It's true & you can tell who those players are by watching them play. Regardless of their God-given talent, fans respect seeing a a player get as much as they can out of their gifts. Players used to realize that their $ comes directly from fans in the community (not from owners, even though they technically write the check). So players worked hard to do right by those fans. Michael Jordan when asked why he played hard, "it might be a young fans 1st time seeing me play, so I want to show them what I'm about." Effort was part of the responsibility that came with getting a dream job. However, if pride & effort cease to exist in this younger 'next gen' of players, then they risk the entire guaranteed pay for the NBA. Owners will not continue to guarantee salaries if this trend of young max players not caring continues. Injuries happen, slumps happen, losses happen. As a fan, we can live with it. But don't ask us to accept apathy. You wouldn't accept apathy from the guy who cooks your food to the mechanic who fixes your breaks to the surgeon who repairs your knee. Stakes are different in NBA, but the principal is not.
demar i say it
demar i love u
Bro
deless i like it- drake
I feel like DeMar gonna be around league for a min his game is smooth and that mid range oh my goodness 🔥
DeRozan's quite insightful. He might not be the most articulate person, but I enjoy listening to him speak.
When he brought up Melo and PG was like “yeah aight” 😂😂
I love dis podcast
I couldn’t imagine making it there and not having that extra drive to work and get after it at that level cause that’s crazy to even get to college let alone NBA
Real hoopers!! I'm happy Derozen played with my spurs, wish him the best!
1:03 deebo takin shots at... zion three months in the future 😂😂😂
Demar needs a podcast FRRRR
ily P
I can imagine. I played tennis for a long time, and hit a level where I just didn’t like it anymore. I can imagine the pro levels can be a physical and mental grind.
as a ja fan that contract shit is right at him you saw his documentary in the offseason up until the contract every episode was in the gym and i didn’t see much after that contract now look at him.
I workout 2 hours a day at skill more half an hour on mentality/the way to see the game/see clips, work hard on my body 1.5 hour, half an hour on handles, and enjoy with my family, do the little things to become a better person overall and rest
Every day
I agree. Honestly I don't care for basketball like I used to. For me it's just different. I blame the media who hype these kids up. Good for business and it goes to their head. Then you got Matt Bradley better than most. But the media chooses the narrative. Will he make the association. That's the question.
Facts
Great content. But if you are wearing headphones, you can hear them touching the mic all the time. Would be good to give them something else to hold so they stop doing that. Thanks
Thumbnail lmaooo
Demar need to be a guest more than once
This an issue with football/soccer as well. Players now are getting paid for their potential rather what they currently performing
Podcast-P got that podcast game! 😅
Just shows how talented the league actually is
Ben simmons name pop up right away in your head when they started naming shit they do besides practicing?💀💀
Paul george goes both ways on the court and at the club 😳👨❤️👨👩❤️👨😂😂
I hope PG understands how big a deal it was to see him come back to this level. DeMar didn't just choose him because he's sitting there, PG has just as much drive as Bird, MJ, LeBron, Steph etc... He may never win a ring, and will still be an example of how to approach the game.
Any time PG suits up expect a light 30 piece. Gotta love it
It’s hard to believe you can be one of the best 450 in the world at something & not love it … Crazy
This is what's different about today's game vs. how it was in the nineties. Players today get paid so much money that the game becomes secondary. They become infatuated with living the LIFESTYLE that comes along with being a professional basketball player rather than being a professional basketball. Mansions and fancy cars and buying out the club has become way more appealing than leaving it all out on the hardwood. Meanwhile players back in the nineties didn't have all that. Sure they were making good money but it wasn't obscene like today. All they had was the game. If they lose they didn't have a private plane to take to their villa in Tuscany. They had a nice Range Rover and a fully paid-off house but their source of happiness was playing basketball. If they lost it hurt. And winning meant so much more to them
Thumbnail has meme potential
If you dont love the game; Stop expecting to be great at it.
Yo P I've been thinking that as well who is going to pay 200m for a guy who doesn't treat it like a job, I have my targets at work and work hard for 100k, the bosses in the NBA are soft as hell.
DEMAR &PG a good combo
Hi from Indy. PG always was and always will be my favorite player. It was too bad we had such haters like Dan Dakich and JMV in our local media hating on him, one of them is fired for Brittney Griner comments so go figure. He was saying she should’ve been left in Russia, that’s the type of media we have here unfortunately.
They laughed when lamelo memtioned 😂
Maybe I'm biased as a Magic fan, but it really seems like every member of the Magic roster really loves the game and wants to put in the work
PG is cool but the other two hosts are mega corn balls
lol you have to be a corn ball to get viewers and likes and shit
You know them personally right?