Why did the Chinese boo their Olympic champion?
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- On August 3rd at the Paris Olympics, the women's table tennis singles final was a showdown between two Chinese players: Chen Meng and Sun Yingsha. The Chinese audience should be proud no matter who wins, but that wasn't the case. They overwhelmingly cheered for Sun Yingsha and booed Chen Meng. Chen defeated Sun and defended her Olympic title in a 4-2 match. However, Chen upset the Chinese. The answer is money and China's gold medal strategy.
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@@WilliamSanderson-zh9dq mine was deleted after few minutes. haha. The ones agrees with the narrative stays
@seanlcs I had my comments disappear across CZcams...I think it is a CZcams problem including not letting me subscribe to certain CZcams channels or get unsubscribed in others.
It is a CZcams problem. I have been having this problem when I try to comment on other videos. Also, CZcams doesn't let me subscribe to certain channels or unsubscribed in others.
@@seanlcsshe's deleting msg that disagrees with her lies.. Lol.. I even got warning from CZcams 😂
@@WorldSpaceRace Hi, I like many of your post on TT :)
Imagine winning gold for your country only to have them turn your back on you as if you were the country's rival. Can't imagine how she must felt.
Give it to the second place person!
chinese common citizens, not linked to the elite communist nobles and landlords, are happy to have enough to eat
@@Elliskapu Well she won. They are from the same country. Maybe she'll go to reeducation after this.
Standard Western-style Chinese news :
👉If there is nothing to blame China for,
then
👉just make up lies to blame China.
🤣😉🤣
@@WilliamSanderson-zh9dq give me your reason and I may commit with you🤔
crazy how china failed to harass and pressure chen to loss the game.
I guess they were too cheap to pay Chen to throw the match. She might be auditioning for Singapore citizenship because they pay top dollars for Olympic gold medal winners.
She might fall from a window. Sadly, people will stop at nothing sometimes.
Standard both Western-style and FaLunGong affiliated' s channel Chinese news :
👉If there is nothing to blame China for,
then
👉just make up lies to blame China.
🤣🤣🤣
@@T-dx8dn Thinking the same thing, she might die due to eating ping pong balls voluntarily.
she must be defecting to the west
I find it funny when I have to explain to people that our U.S. Olympic Team is not funded by our Government. They are funded by sponsors and donations. The government doesn't give our Olympic team any money.
The Purple Team is awesome~!
@@theylied1776but they pay for asthama treatment for sure I guess🗿
money laundery.
NCAA? College?
Corruption from the top to the bottom! I pity Chinese athletes!
There are many countries in the world that do napotism or take bribe in the final selection of their olympic team. At least China has not gone that low except in propaganda.
you think too much，most audience support sun because sun is very popular in Chinese social website.Many people believe sun And Wangchuqin is a couple and they love the fake couple.nothing political involved.In fact,many sun’s fans say bad words abut Chen In social website and the government arrests them for assaulting others.Anything you are curious about I can tell you.nothing political,just because the ping pong fan culture.
The corruption stems from the IOC. Not CHINA
Obviously she was told NOT TO WIN.
It’s very obvious to the rest of the world 😐
@@lisadolan689 The funny part is that the Chinese Communist Party thinks this odd behavior isn’t noticed by the rest of the world.
you think too much，most audience support sun because sun is very popular in Chinese social website.Many people believe sun And Wangchuqin is a couple and they love the fake couple.nothing political involved.In fact,many sun’s fans say bad words abut Chen In social website and the government arrests them for assaulting others.Anything you are curious about I can tell you.nothing political,just because the ping pong fan culture.
She won and she was the better player
that girl and family needs to be protected.
you think too much，most audience support sun because sun is very popular in Chinese social website.Many people believe sun And Wangchuqin is a couple and they love the fake couple.nothing political involved.In fact,many sun’s fans say bad words abut Chen In social website and the government arrests them for assaulting others.Anything you are curious about I can tell you.nothing political,just because the ping pong fan culture.
I was wondering about the woman's final match.
My wife is a huge table tennis fan, and I was suprised at the lack of sportsmanship shown in China's own national sport.
you think too much，most audience support sun because sun is very popular in Chinese social website.Many people believe sun And Wangchuqin is a couple and they love the fake couple.nothing political involved.In fact,many sun’s fans say bad words abut Chen In social website and the government arrests them for assaulting others.Anything you are curious about I can tell you.nothing political,just because the ping pong fan culture.
Good for Chen! Fight the power. I can’t imagine the pressure she must have felt. She should also be careful when drinking tea and standing next to windows in tall buildings.
well good for Chen Meng to play to win, because she can! If CCP doesn't want her victories, maybe other countries would want her on their team!
Would be good for Chen, but it is a little weird for countries to be represented by someone not of that country.
She can represent Taiwan or Hongkong
@@thearpox7873 🤣Are you aware of the reality? more over, did you watch the video until the end?
@@helenan7368 Yes, and yes.
@@thearpox7873 Weird for who, then? Probably for you? For decades athletes have been representing countries other than their birth country in all kind of sports. And those countries seem to be quite happy when they get medals and win championships. An example - my country gave political asylum to an athlete who brought us a gold medal from Tokyo OG and a silver medal now. Should the athletes be representing a country were they don't live anymore and where they were sometimes being threatened just because it's their birth place? Now, that is for me even weirder. But of course, you may have your opinion and I can have mine, that's the beauty and the right we have for living is free countries ;)
Small countries like South Korea, Australia have won spectacularly given the number of medals against the population.
Did you say small? South Korea is 50 million people. But yes, especially doing well relative to land size.
If Chen's opponent was an actual athlete, she'd be insulted if Chen did not put in her best effort.
not in china
@@matthewdolman well it happened in China and a true fighter will fight to win. That she did - so what is ignorance - She proved it and YES it can happen in China, which she did or are you that lame?
@@davej.7366 The Chinese don't think like the rest of the world there's no sportsmanship there
you think too much，most audience support sun because sun is very popular in Chinese social website.Many people believe sun And Wangchuqin is a couple and they love the fake couple.nothing political involved.In fact,many sun’s fans say bad words abut Chen In social website and the government arrests them for assaulting others.Anything you are curious about I can tell you.nothing political,just because the ping pong fan culture.
What the Chinese People think is that their Dictator for life; Xi Jinping didn't want this lady to win.
Integrity in sport is important. If this happened in cricket, it would be considered matchfixing and all those involved would be banned from the sport. This would also happen in most sports, because people who gamble money on a fixed event would be demanding refunds. This entire affair stinks.
Seems like the best reward for Olympic level athletes from China is an opportunity to move to another country and coach.
Move to US or Australia 😳 Neither country get even close to China
Chen is in a world of pain, despite her right as an individual to compete and win. Maybe after a period of time of trial and punishment undoubtedly meted out to her by the corrupt and diabolical CCP, after this trial she may leave China and get a job on a Western country coaching Western table-tennis players for the Olympics. Where she will have a more satisfactory continued sports career with a satisfactory coaching wage that she could ever have in China.
I pray she comes to her senses and moves to another country, any country. Shameful behaviour by the Chinese, absolutely despicable. :/
I hope so and I find the sponsorship thing ironic as Chen is more attrative than Sun imo and I think many non-Chinese would agree.
I have heard that the CCP tries to control you even after you leave. If you have family in China, they’ll try to get to them to get you to return for whatever reason. If I’m right or wrong, please confirm.
Somebody forgot to send her the memo?
i doubt Chen Meng will change China for nazi western country
Thanks for sharing, it's hard for me as an American to comprehend the facilities not existing and people not having the disposable income to choose their hobbies and businesses not opening to provide those services. I'm so sorry they don't have freedom😢
I don't know where you grew up here in the States, but there are a boatload of sports not readily accessible to most kids. Either the schools or local regions lack certain sports entirely, or the cost of access (facilities, gear, training, etc) is simply too high for most families to afford. It's just the way it is. Nothing to do with "freedom" unless you mean financial freedom.
Lei is not entirely accurate. Gyms with decent equipment and pools can be found all over China. The vast majority of people simply cannot afford access. You're not going to see a family surviving on 1500 rmb (~$210 usd) per month dumping money into health club memberships. Any disposable income would go toward instrument lessons; math, science and English tutors; exam prep, etc.
As far as elite athletes, how/where they train depends on their sport. We have multiple dedicated Olympic facilities around the U.S. Some athletes choose to train in their own locations with their own coaches, and others train at these facilities. I suspect the CCP takes it to the extreme and requires its athletes to train only under its watchful eye at approved facilities.
[EDIT: I should mention that many of the previously mentioned health club chains, gyms and pools have closed in recent months due to the deteriorating economy in China. Many of the people I know who had annual memberships simply lost their money -- unrecoverable. The companies would close up shop--some literally overnight--and the owners would disappear with the money. Employees and members found out the next day when they showed up to locked (and sometimes emptied) facilities. That, or they went bankrupt due to over-expansion/over-supply. So, while there are still quite a few facilities available, they're not nearly as widespread as in recent years.]
I think it’s the same story everywhere. But China is an odd country. Kids are in school all day (and practically all night) and sure there are compulsory exercises but on the whole access to sports facilities is limited and not least because most youngsters spend all their time studying.
In western countries hobbies and sports are encouraged. I don’t mean that all sports are easily accessible but in my country typically kids will go swimming, play soccer and have access to some kind of gym at the very least. And if you show talent then ways and means will be found to draw out that talent.
In China I believe that the athletic kids are sent off to boarding schools for intensive training aimed at one thing. It’s a fairly brutal system that really has nothing to do with developing the children. It’s all about the glory of China.
Edit: sorry just watched the vid thru and this idea of the kids being placed into seclusion is highlighted.
you think too much，most audience support sun because sun is very popular in Chinese social website.Many people believe sun And Wangchuqin is a couple and they love the fake couple.nothing political involved.In fact,many sun’s fans say bad words abut Chen In social website and the government arrests them for assaulting others.Anything you are curious about I can tell you.nothing political,just because the ping pong fan culture.
I hope Chinese athletes become freer.
Freer from what? They are the best in the world. If they go to US Trump will denigrate your ethnicity
There was a story about a chinese gold medalist who left china and married a japanese because he didnt cave in to match fixing they disallowed him from playing ever again. so he married a japanese and came back and beat all his chinese former teamates at the next olympics. what a story
What's his name or what sport did he played so I could read/view his story?
Whoever he was, he was the goat! 🫡
Details please
@@Benjamin-bw5ek The particular athlete was mention in this video around 9 min
@@valconir1619 ok. It was a woman player, He Zhili. No story of a man’s single player and He did play in the 1996/2000 games and reached the quarter finals in both games.
This is very sad and tragic for Chinese athletes.
Thank you for this excellent exposé. This treatment of athletes and families is despicable. Potential future Olympians are identified then dehumanized at a young age. They are fed to the gold medal factory strictly for propaganda purposes.
Happens in the USA too. Athletes have been abused and threatened and even team mates have been ostracised
Documentary Athlete A tells of the abuse the athletes have had to endure.
And this clip: UK and US gymnasts from 'Athlete A' documentary discuss abuse in sport | ITV News
This too
Elite Australian gymnasts reveal claims of emotional and verbal abuse by some coaches
Out Of Control Coaches' Abusive Behavior Often Goes Under-Reported In Youth Sports, Experts Say
That kind of behaviour isn't even banned in motor racing 😢
I´m not Chinese and my heart goes out to Meng!!! I know Yinsha and Chuqin will shine bright, but I feel China got things rushed, happy for Zhendong and Meng to have gotten their golds instead of the planned scheme.
It sounds worse in China but it is about money in most countries. It is no longer about people playing together; business has taken over.
True most sports are business-owned. Only the Olympics is… again not a sport, but an exercise in nationalism.
Excellent video - as always. Thanks Lei!
Lei, thank you always
OF COURSE you had to politicize this. Disgusting.
I'm shocked at the lies, even CNN Fox, BBC don't dare to lie like that 😅
I spent 10 years in China and never saw girls playing basketball. Never saw anyone playing softball, and definitely never saw anyone shooting a gun.
Lol. Only in one nazi country anyone can play softball
However they do have a very well staffed military which draws from much of the broader population.
@@user-sc7fk5ys6x You're kidding. The average soldier is a rice farmer with a gun that he can barely lift.
Great video Lei, thank for the explanation and bypassing the Great Firewall to tell a wider audience.
I am glad Chen won. She defended her title and proves that at her age you can still win against those who are quite younger.
Even if China has more gold medals those athletes compose a very low fraction of Chinese people and those invading Taiwan won't be of that physical caliber.
Xinnie: Ha ha ha! We finally did it! We won! I will go down in history as the best leader for getting the most gold medals!!
Very interesting video! Thank you for this information, i didn’t knew that!
Your point about the Table tennis match are on point..
But every other point is weak amd pathetic. Country's win medals in unpopular sports many times..there is no need to criticise that. Besides China has broken into several sports that were earlier western dominated. It's an achievement for any nation.
As an Indian who has often been utterly dissapointed with ny Country's Olympic performance..seeing another Asian country (though a geopolitical rival), is something I'm deeply impressed with.
Especially given that China is an Academics focused nation, similar to India.
Of course the Olympics is about friendship but also winning medals. Why condemn China's way of producing winners when other countries also doing their best to get winners. Prize moneys are given by most countries to there winners and what is so wrong if China reward their winners?
Yeah, Pakistan did great in the men's javelin! Cool to see a person from India cheering on - and being impressed with - Pakistan!😃👍
I thought Sun was a boy.
So ... the Sun doesn't ALWAYS shine!
It IS raining where I am now, so yeah, the Sun isn't shining here.
@@mayuri4184 I was referring to the Chinese athlete, Sun, who did not shine as gold winner.
@@DouglasJenkins I know. I was adding to the joke.
This is a very true and stunningly accurate video!
We Malaysia and Singapore do respect but China had change everything there never respect such shameless
I ceased looking at Olympic games almost 20 years ago,when I realised the amount of money that was spent each time. Now it is not a question of money but a question of nationalism. China is excelling in it. I am really tired of all this stupidity. Even the opening ceremony this year had nothing to do with sport. I did not see it,but CZcams had plenty of sarcastic images. Olympic games are over. Stop them.😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
What evidence do you have that it was fixed so that one would get gold and the other silver? Being opinionated again eh?
All countries are focused on winning gold medals.
Those sports you mentioned are ALL popular in China. Diving and Swimming do not have limited facilities. Only need to look at the many sports stadiums around the country which have swimming pools in them. Even most communities have swimming pools in them.
Shooting? There are many places that have shooting ranges. Just because the public do not have access to guns does not mean they cannot go to shooting ranges to take up the sport. The U.K public does not have guns but they have shooting facilities.
At least China does not poach foreign talent like the U.S does. How many Olympians in Summer and Winter sports are actually foreigners by birth.
As for doping. The U.S fail to ban athletes who have been found to have doped and the US falsifies the results.
Many have been allowed to compete in international competitions.
You really show your ignorance about sports in China and what the athletes want and like. Never show any evidence of your claims. Oh and Basketball: , Table tennis , Badminton , Swimming, volleyball are the most popular sports in China. Soccer
( football) is more a regional thing with it being more popular in Southern regions. China also does not play games against stronger European or S.American nations so cannot develop as well as it wants. Taking on Japan, Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam and South Korea is not the same as facing Italy, Spain, Germany or France on a regular basis.
How do you explain the coaches looking depressed and the ad campaing with Sun as gold medalist if the match wasnt supposed to be fixed?
@@lanatsif no one looks depressed. don't be idiot
Now that was very interesting Lei. Thank You. (Florida Bob) Tampa, USA.
Mind-blowing analysis! The effort behind creating this script must have been immense-truly impressive work!
After I found out about this, I felt so bad for Chen Meng 😢. What they expect her to do? Let her opponent win? Plus, if u still get defeat then u simply not good enough. She deserve the win tho❤
Always top quality reporting
Great saying at the end 😂😂😂😂
Very apt
🎉🎉🎉
Thank you, thank you for scripting yourself! The video was not just informative, with your usual unique insight, but smooth and pleasant to listen to.
Love to hear your thoughts on the Chinese swimmers. Some of them shocked the favorites USA and Australia. Also doping allegations that came from the last Olympics
Finally someone is saying something about this, last olympics the arrangement was made so that Ma Long wins and become the first to win two gold medals.
I love the underdog story . Chen gave the system the middle finger.
This is one of Lei’s most insightful videos in ages, because it properly connects what we perceive with a credible hypothesis of how the CCP’s manipulate sports in China.
Although she provides no references to back her hypothesis, the best hypothesis is one that is most explanatory of the facts, and Lei’s claims are well within what we know of Chinese society and what the CCP is capable of (i.e. is likely not wild guessing).
Well done Lei, keep up the good work!
I love this channel. Today it made me chuckel. Cudos to the winner. She is a brave one.
Chinese players don’t play to compete, they play to survive
Ugh! Reminds me of the Hunger Games.
Philippine Basketball team defeated China in their own country that's why they never made it to Paris Olympics. A come from behind win. Yao Ming devastated.
I have a different theory as to why none of the athletes qualified.
The loss of unskilled workers also affects athletes since they are the ones most exposed to the elements.
Good on it she was the better player on the day congratulations to her.
I assumed the cheerleaders were agents.
🇸🇪 thanks Lei, very interesting
In reality, Most athlete do sport for the money, only people with a stable income do sport for the sheer love of it
China good at some individual sports, while team sports are not of their strengths.
China has done exceptionally well
I am proud of my northern neighbors despite being an Indian and an arch enemy of the Chinese communist party
But bravo to the exceptionally talented Chinese Athletes who won laurels for their country
I salute them
❤
Why are you pretending to be Indian, Wang Ping?
No I'm also Indian, but it's the truth, Chinese are just amazing in Olympics no doubt about it
@@manish7897 Whatever you say, single child.
You have nothing good to said about China. That's your job. Period. So get a life.
Lei you are thinking "too much" dear!
China win is always a China win!
You are just being too "Umarikanized" in your way of thinking!
China troll
That is insane, and sick. It defeats the whole purpose of sports and Olympics. The whole focus on who has more medals is foolish, the US is guilty of this also.
I like to hear such nazist channels and speakers. So hilarious
Li Na is one of my favorite tennis players - I was happy to see china win gold in the women’s tennis Paris Olympics
Great insight. Thank you 😊
Wow! How sad.
Thank you for telling the truth about the government ofCommunist China’s manipulation of the Olympics.
There is way too much drama in sports. It is entertainment, nothing more. Win or lose it's all right.
I like the Winnie the Pooh on the shelf. 😅
Today, a champion in any game isn't based on his talent, but corruption is the champion 😊
Today, China is the great power in table tennis, but facts like this can begin to undermine the performance of athletes, and cause other countries where the competition is fair to start surpassing China, as has already happened this year on a few occasions.
Thank you Lei for this amazing podcast; again amazing work and great content; thank you 🙏🏻.
This isn’t a sports-related comment, but I think Lei should consider using a larger version of Winnie the Pooh behind her. It’s a clever political statement-well done, Lei!
The parents of the diving sensation reportedly turned down all pledges and gifts, monetary or otherwise.
I like this shorter style of video. It's easier to make time for it.
Agree.. sometimes I don't even click videos that are close to an hour long .. I don't want to watch videos quarter or halfway when I have only 20 mins for half hour to eat lunch
I really feel for the Chinese men’s gymnast team who lost gold to Japan…..they must surely feel the wrath of their masters.
what rubbish.........sports commercialized in China? Are u serious? ........30 sec of your words and I say delete it.
How many medals did "free" countries win? In autocratic countries do non-medal participants have a chance to have a purposeful life after the "games are over? I can see why people would leave to pursue more freedom.
This one is very consistent...wonder how many convert...
Saw that CZcams about the Chinese sprint-walking pacer who took gold after the team lead who she was supposed to pace, had been disqualified part way through. Coach/fan team had already gone home.
In America too we see very little of most of the Olympics. But it’s for business reasons… NBC (or whoever) spending more time talking about background interviews and just covering a few US-popular events. Makes me feel like I missed the whole event every time.
Don't pitty her; celebrate her accomplishment.
They are also the sports they have been caught cheating in
Gold medals are generally considered the basis of medal tally standings in most countries…I don’t think that alone should be held against them but other criticisms are valid.
Agree! Gold medals are Olympic champions. Silver and Bronze are the 1st and 2nd losers. 1 gold medal is superior to 1000 silver medals, and 1 silver is superior to 1000 bronze. You compete for the gold!
Why do you the word regime ? Is US government a regime? Is Russia under Putin a regime? Is France under Macron a regime? Is China government a regime?
Money is the root of all evil..
And what about that Chinese sprinter who mimes a prayer 🙏 before a race, do the coaches look stern about her wins too? Hopefully she can emigrate without being jailed too.
Let the best woman win!
i can't see a Finger on that Picture. Use a clear Resolution.
Xièxiè, sister Lei! You have light and insight!
🫡🇹🇼
Thanks for your clarity of the tactics behind what the public sees
Winning 6-8 gold medals swimming in one Olympics is doping. And you know the guys.
This is all against the spirit of olympics or sports in general.
The US does well in the Olympics because of our prosperity. It allows players to pursue sports even when no monetary award is expected. China should be able to win several times as many medals just because of population but athletes have no prosperity. They only do well because of the government's manipulations. Imagine competing not just for the reward of a medal but for the fear of punishment if you fall short.
Why same thing wasn't the case for Ma long in Tokyo?? He was 30 and already won gold medal where as Fan zandong had none..
Very enlightening insights. Mabuhay from the Philippines..
Many ASEAN countries because of their corrupt governments, have kowtow to the Bully Hooligan of Asia. For example, Cambodia and Myanmar, the government let the Chinese to steal their natural resources and this has made their government richer and richer but the people become poorer and poorer. Farmers and fishermen were driven away to make way for China's economic developments. Indonesians feel proud of their new HSR but it was funded and built by China. Filipinos who protest against US military bases are traitors paid by China. Filipinos should rather not to have any modern infrastructures instead of heavily in indebt of China. Don't forget China exported the communism venom to South East Asia. The government should invite the West, Japan, Korea, Taiwan and Singapore to invest more in the Philippines. Don't let the China the wolves to come into your house.
this has been ongoing everywhere, money sports, politics and popularity.
Apparently you didn't get what she was trying to say
The Chinese women’s player tennis won the Gold medal. Even though She make Millions $$$ from the regular tennis tournaments She still said that the Gold Medal is most important. As for the other tennis players the Olympics is not that impressive or important to them.
You are looking for conspiracy when there is none. Yili also made another ad congratulating zheng qinwen for winning silver in tennis, and it was leaked. The audience just liked Sun more for various reasons
I have no sympathy for that disobedient player. Yes, I can see the element of tragedy there, but I don't feel for any of these Master's dogs. On the individual level, they may have paid exorbitant efforts personally and suffered through inhuman hardships to get to that Olympic champion podium, but compared to common ordinary Chinese people, they are still the privileged few. It takes hundreds of millions of taxpayer's money to train an Olympic champion in China. To make sure they don't fall victim to the awful grisly food safety issues in China like the rest of us, they even get the "special supply foods" that are purposedly produced for high rank officials. It's all pure and natural, but only for those "important people", not even for sale to the public. Story is that the grains are grown in the state-owned farms in Turpan region as the soil is much cleaner there as there is little heavy industrial pollution there. The rest of us? we have to eat and drink poison every day, every meal. As a slave, it's hard to feel sorry for the Master's pets even if occasionally they get beaten.
Being angry at people who are doing just a little bit better than you is no way to go through life.
@@davidw2739 "A little bit better"....what are you? An American? You watch some YT videos and suddenly you think you know what China is like? You read a few lines of my comment and now start telling me how to live my life? You don't know the first thing about my life! I lived through shit you cannot even imagine, and I survived. And now I, a son of a slave from China, is talking about China and justifying myself in English. Excuse me for thinking perhaps I do know one or two things about life after all...At least I know better than to pass cliche judgment on strangers I know nothing about....Nevertheless, I do have some advice about life for you: 未经他人苦，莫劝他人善. Do you agree, Mr. Know-How-To-Go-Through-Life?
Very eloquently put.
@@user-sc7fk5ys6x czcams.com/users/live0LHd6Mgl080?si=H-UbjUqQ4tEflDsI&t=118
There, he put it much better than I did.
@@akiralone4611 What is your issue?
Excellent commentary. Thank you!
Sun doesn’t look female.