Honestly if this was a quality built product with up2date tech and equipment it be easy 1500000 People who buy these hot the cash just think your paying what close to 100000 plus all the mods these guys are doing Don’t think so go check Black Series fb Frig issue as they weren’t installed as per manufacturer recommend Dometic everything which is just joe average So there throwing out A/c to spend 1500 throwing out the solar as it Cheap AIMS and dropping thousands for Battleborn or more now ev4 ? Lithium Victron gear it’s big boy toy with deep wallets they even change bearings shocks plus winterize it all this above and beyond seller price it’s nuts all for like what 3-6 weeks of use I bet
IMO, the cost for the quality you get doesn't line up. They're charging a premium price for a product actually made pretty cheaply in China, there are some major concerns with the wiring/electrical system and potential fire hazards as well as interior build quality. There's at least one thread over on the ExPo forums talking about this and the less than stellar response owners/potential owners have received from the company/dealer when they've tried to get answers/fixes. Some of the pictures of the electrical panels, wiring, chafing and eventual shorting issues, and just generally not being up to RVIA and NEC standards (which they are required to meet if they're claiming RVIA certification) are pretty scary. I know you're just trying to show off some cool stuff, Jason. Folks should just make sure and do their homework before dropping major coinage on any product.
Hey Jason. Sorry I missed you at West. I am fulltime overlanding in a HQ19 currently in Utah. Drifting toward Montana with hopes of going to Glacier National Park. My HQ will go more places than my Ram 2500 4X4. It does have some short coming but all RV have then. Safe travels and see you on the trail.
I heavily researched these. They are awesome but come with tons of little fixes you need to do. There’s tons of helpful FB groups but seems like there’s a list of 15 things that need to be fixed immediately, and they are not suited for cold weather at all
This is just like most of the caravans in Australia. A few are made in China but most are Australian made from chassis upwards. They range from AU$80,000-$250,000+ depends on lithium package and size and off road chassis.
May be a on Chinese garbage site, doesn't mean that they are the same machine. Where is your proof, he had stated that everything was made in the US (False advertising). You are saying they are made in China. China is famous for making garbage copy's of everything. Give us proof that he is lying or stop posting garbage.
Hello Jason, I'm curious if you have another channel/youtube channel? I am subscribed and chose all notifications, but it seems I might not be seeing all your videos? I believe it was on the video for the gearhead's that you mentioned a new camping video coming up that I was looking for. Any help would be appreciated as I really look forward to your new camp videos. Thank You
it is not the ultimate caravan, it is just a cookie cutter chinese made van, there are other aussie vans like this out of the same chinese factory. If you want the ultimate offroad van look at the australian made offroad vans and not the australian chinese made vans.
Bruder Exp8 It’s no secret that the quality expectancy in North America is LOW and that just what RV makers delivery The Black Series is though a solid frame hood suspension that’s like so many of the “off grid” a take away from cruise master So that’s more money too Up grade the bearings and get real shocks
Worth every penny I’m sure but accessible to only a few. As the economy collapses so will the RV industry, unfortunately. The few that manage to survive will be the ones that manufacture affordable products. I hope I’m wrong.
It's far beyond the price anyone normal. I personally don't understand the huge mark up on trailers because it has a few appliances. Especially when a regular covered trailer cost around $2000 imagine the upgrades $10,000 could buy.
Seems that price tag is oftentimes them just charging you for the convenience of having everything already set up. Which for some people is okay I suppose but like you said, imagine how you could personally upgrade your rig with that same price tag! It would truly be yours and not a cent would be wasted on unnecessary stuff.
@@MrJayson204 the problem nowadays is everyone wants everything right away. Sometimes time patience with a little sweat will not only save you a bunch of money but give you something 100% that you can take pride in.
No good if you have to cool seal the roof every year. Can't go to the rv store every year and get a tub of roof sealant in a bug out situation. If you don't the roof will leak. If you want to go camper trailer you need a molded fiberglass
Not to be rude but why is there so much talk on just the tires alone. Tires are probably the least expensive item on this trailer. I'm not buying a trailer because of the tires. Lol🤣
Impossible to get warranty work done. Too many proprietary parts that you can only get from black series. The company will ignore any attempts at satisfactory warranty work. The wiring routes make no sense and a complete mess of an installation. This owner is the invisible man as well😢😢😢
the black series trailer did not make the top ten list for rugged outdoor trailers..too cheaply built but yet they ask 100 k...lol...most peeps that can afford over 100k for a trailer DONT do deep woods off road camping,they stay in hotels so they dont get their shoes dirty!! haha
Not as it’s sold it isn’t but like ANY camper you need mods lots of even in these The solar needs redone completely You need eliminate black water dumping and get rid of the run if the mill dometic 💩so your looking at minimum of 15000$ and that’s if u do nothing with the underbelly to insulate it Unless your in Texas or Arizona Florida then who cares
Yo lmao. We can’t afford something like this! Pls downgrade the price of equipment. I started watching you because “ Primitive “ aspect. This kind of content is not primitive at all, actually the total opposite.
I’m an owner, unfortunately, of HQ21. The suspension design and manufacturing quality is crap. They are not an American company. The company is from China. Build and warranty and parts are all located in China. You cannot align the wheels because the suspension arms and brackets are built correctly. Customer service is non existent
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While it is very nice, the trailer is totally out of reach price wise for the majority of people. List price is over $100,000.00!
And doesn’t have 12v ac frig or electrical system that warrants the price tag
I thought they start around $55k and you can spec them out with varying packages?
Not to mention all of the quality and safety issues. Avoid. Dealers are dropping them left and right.
If it isn't the ultimate, it's pretty close. Fantastic rigs, but the price puts it far out of reach of us regular guys.
They're nice, but still made in China....Assembled in the U.S.
@@kenuber4766 what isn’t get with the times
Honestly if this was a quality built product with up2date tech and equipment it be easy 1500000
People who buy these hot the cash just think your paying what close to 100000 plus all the mods these guys are doing
Don’t think so go check Black Series fb
Frig issue as they weren’t installed as per manufacturer recommend
Dometic everything which is just joe average
So there throwing out A/c to spend 1500 throwing out the solar as it Cheap AIMS and dropping thousands for Battleborn or more now ev4 ? Lithium Victron gear it’s big boy toy with deep wallets they even change bearings shocks plus winterize it all this above and beyond seller price it’s nuts all for like what 3-6 weeks of use I bet
You want ultimate Bruder Exp8 way closer
It’ll run your house just like FORD lighting ….
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@@davetoal4629 You my friend should do YOUR part to start buying American products. Not everything comes from china! Enough said!
IMO, the cost for the quality you get doesn't line up. They're charging a premium price for a product actually made pretty cheaply in China, there are some major concerns with the wiring/electrical system and potential fire hazards as well as interior build quality. There's at least one thread over on the ExPo forums talking about this and the less than stellar response owners/potential owners have received from the company/dealer when they've tried to get answers/fixes. Some of the pictures of the electrical panels, wiring, chafing and eventual shorting issues, and just generally not being up to RVIA and NEC standards (which they are required to meet if they're claiming RVIA certification) are pretty scary. I know you're just trying to show off some cool stuff, Jason. Folks should just make sure and do their homework before dropping major coinage on any product.
I heard they are manufactured in China with final assembly in USA with suspension. I’d be careful of Black Series saying they are USA made.
I’d love to see a big lithium package. Seen them at the Tampa show and they are impressive. The really stand out from the competition, way above them.
My friend has one of those, they are truly an amazing RV
Hey Jason. Sorry I missed you at West. I am fulltime overlanding in a HQ19 currently in Utah. Drifting toward Montana with hopes of going to Glacier National Park. My HQ will go more places than my Ram 2500 4X4. It does have some short coming but all RV have then. Safe travels and see you on the trail.
stop with promoting things . I love watching. I hate watching promotions . bring back Megan . replace wheeler . do more photography
Yes and no, they are really nice and well built but prohibitively expensive.
I saw one of the very first one when I worked at Les Schwab in Colorado. One of the most badass setup rvs from the factory
hey Jason!
I heavily researched these. They are awesome but come with tons of little fixes you need to do. There’s tons of helpful FB groups but seems like there’s a list of 15 things that need to be fixed immediately, and they are not suited for cold weather at all
Really? They pitch it like its 4 season...
You’re not taking something that heavy “off roading.” Now their smaller trailers are more practical for that application.
I'm surprised anyone would pay that much and accept lead batteries.
Looks pretty cool! Definitely not my speed, but I'm sure it's nice for the right person.
This is just like most of the caravans in Australia. A few are made in China but most are Australian made from chassis upwards. They range from AU$80,000-$250,000+ depends on lithium package and size and off road chassis.
2:03 I hate to say it, but you could have 20 spare tires and it won’t Do you any good if the actual axle snaps off. Speaking from experience.
By fare my favorite camper out there!
You sold the rv? Last you said it was parked up at your shop!
The cabinetry stapled, nailed or glued in?
Made in China. Partially assembled in the USA. Available on Alibaba for 1/4 the retail price.
Is this true?
@@Zaroffmom Yep
May be a on Chinese garbage site, doesn't mean that they are the same machine. Where is your proof, he had stated that everything was made in the US (False advertising). You are saying they are made in China. China is famous for making garbage copy's of everything.
Give us proof that he is lying or stop posting garbage.
@@Zaroffmom made in China, then they added a few parts in California.
Hello Jason, I'm curious if you have another channel/youtube channel? I am subscribed and chose all notifications, but it seems I might not be seeing all your videos? I believe it was on the video for the gearhead's that you mentioned a new camping video coming up that I was looking for. Any help would be appreciated as I really look forward to your new camp videos.
Thank You
it is not the ultimate caravan, it is just a cookie cutter chinese made van, there are other aussie vans like this out of the same chinese factory. If you want the ultimate offroad van look at the australian made offroad vans and not the australian chinese made vans.
I will be looking in the used market for sure. Nice but ridiculously expensive.
ask richard how things are going now!
Nice 😎👍
Bruder Exp8
It’s no secret that the quality expectancy in North America is LOW and that just what RV makers delivery
The Black Series is though a solid frame hood suspension that’s like so many of the “off grid” a take away from cruise master
So that’s more money too
Up grade the bearings and get real shocks
Worth every penny I’m sure but accessible to only a few. As the economy collapses so will the RV industry, unfortunately. The few that manage to survive will be the ones that manufacture affordable products. I hope I’m wrong.
Black Series have a horrible reputation in Australia. Poor quality Chinese components.
Yip definitely and they try/threaten to sue if you review honestly about them.
It's far beyond the price anyone normal. I personally don't understand the huge mark up on trailers because it has a few appliances.
Especially when a regular covered trailer cost around $2000 imagine the upgrades $10,000 could buy.
Seems that price tag is oftentimes them just charging you for the convenience of having everything already set up. Which for some people is okay I suppose but like you said, imagine how you could personally upgrade your rig with that same price tag! It would truly be yours and not a cent would be wasted on unnecessary stuff.
@@MrJayson204 the problem nowadays is everyone wants everything right away. Sometimes time patience with a little sweat will not only save you a bunch of money but give you something 100% that you can take pride in.
Do you research buyer beware.
Yay!
I can see you and Meagan in that
👍🏻
Very useful camper in many ways. However price may deter guys from getting one. Great interview there Jason.
No good if you have to cool seal the roof every year. Can't go to the rv store every year and get a tub of roof sealant in a bug out situation. If you don't the roof will leak. If you want to go camper trailer you need a molded fiberglass
$100K starting price, 400Ahr AGM batteries and exposed water lines is a no-go.
Bruder EXP-8 $200K
This has all the covenience of a small home. I'm blown away
Wow
Not sure I would call this an RV. RV is a term usually reserved for motorized campers. This is a trailer. A nice one but a trailer.
Looks like a good rig. Sticker price??
Starting around 80k.
Ha! Company getting blasted in the comments.
Brother 😅👍
I wish someday a youtuber could own a black series rv. It would be great if you could get one.
Hey watch some Australian you tube sites….they are the main type of caravans we have and some great you tube channels are out there.
Move out of California and you could lower the price 40%
Not to be rude but why is there so much talk on just the tires alone. Tires are probably the least expensive item on this trailer. I'm not buying a trailer because of the tires. Lol🤣
How much? Probably 1 Million Dollar.
The company was bought out
Impossible to get warranty work done. Too many proprietary parts that you can only get from black series. The company will ignore any attempts at satisfactory warranty work. The wiring routes make no sense and a complete mess of an installation. This owner is the invisible man as well😢😢😢
the black series trailer did not make the top ten list for rugged outdoor trailers..too cheaply built but yet they ask 100 k...lol...most peeps that can afford over 100k for a trailer DONT do deep woods off road camping,they stay in hotels so they dont get their shoes dirty!! haha
the stress level of towing that $$$ into tricky situations...no thanks
Why California?
Because a lot of things made in China are unloaded there.
Not as it’s sold it isn’t but like ANY camper you need mods lots of even in these
The solar needs redone completely
You need eliminate black water dumping and get rid of the run if the mill dometic 💩so your looking at minimum of 15000$ and that’s if u do nothing with the underbelly to insulate it
Unless your in Texas or Arizona Florida then who cares
Yo lmao. We can’t afford something like this! Pls downgrade the price of equipment. I started watching you because “ Primitive “ aspect. This kind of content is not primitive at all, actually the total opposite.
I’m an owner, unfortunately, of HQ21. The suspension design and manufacturing quality is crap. They are not an American company. The company is from China. Build and warranty and parts are all located in China. You cannot align the wheels because the suspension arms and brackets are built correctly. Customer service is non existent
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While it's nice to have an explanation isn't it a better idea to showcase the RV and not 2 guys talking for 98% of the video?
Nice camper but way, way, way over my budget....
Problem is the quality has gone to shit since the Chinese company took over building them
Made in China and assembled in CA… just tell it the way it is and not dance around it
Don’t be fooled they are junk guys
garbage