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What's in the Bag? How to Make a 18'th Century Shooting Bag: A Tutorial | LEATHERWORK | DIY |
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- čas přidán 3. 11. 2022
- Peter gives a tour of what he carries in his shooting bag, then gives a tutorial on how to make one.
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I ALWAYS ENJOY WATCHING HOW YOU CREATE THOSE ITEMS !
Kinda looking forward to winter when I have the time. Thanks for your interest.
The drone shot keeps getting better 👍
Thanks but, that’s the end of them. Our son borrowed a drone and took the footage. I kinda liked it too.
Thanks for lesson in leatherworks Peter. Enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed.
It makes me smile to watch your videos, listen to you tell the stories, tell the facts and explain how things were made.
We really appreciate your interest and encouragement!
Outstanding threads!!
Very IMPRESSIVE Sir !!
I thank you.
Great looking pieces that will last a lifetime
Hears hoping and if not, I hope they wear them out through use.
I love the bags good work.
Appreciate that Daniel.
I like how the handmade items are gifted to your fellow living historians. It's a great community and It's nice to hear the names of your friends that have appeared at Kelly Station.
I enjoyed Beau's visits and the Bob Miller appearances so it's nice to have a reference when you talk about your friends.
You are very observant. We’ve been lucky. To have so many talented artisans visit us.
Heading to the cabin tomorrow for a week of deer hunting. Thanks for sharing.
Good for you Douglas, good luck. I’ll be hunting deer for the next 3 weeks starting Monday at dawn.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Sadly no deer this first week of gun season but I told your joke and they were all laughing.
Another great educational video many thanks for it.
My pleasure, Gary, glad you enjoyed.
Hi Peter, love the opening scene. Another great adventure full of ideas, educational content and wonderful craftsmanship! Well done. Take care see ya on the next👍
Encouraging words as usual,Gill, thanks so much.
Great tutorial Peter! My son just made me a pouch for this season. I shared your video with him. Thanks,✌🏻
Now that is nice son you’ve got there, Scott. Good luck with your hunt.
Beautiful bags. What a wonderful craft to make such great bags. It will be a treasured gift to your friend.
Thanks, Beverly and here’s hoping they wear them out through use.
That was wonderful, thank you. Brings back memories of the people I loved to be with. Reanactoers. I miss them so.
Been involved with various groups in my life but, I never met a more welcoming group like the family of reenactors. Thanks for the compliment Kelly.
Your timing is impeccable. I'm starting a bag after late buck. Thank you Peter.
They say it’s all in timing or is that just for comedians?
@@TheWoodlandEscape The valley I work in has 8 unemployed as comedians. I work with 5 of them in construction.
Too funny.
wow best channel on YT
Thanks so much!
LOVELY work Peter! Dare I say; 'You're a 'Crafty' man?! LOL! There's SUCH a 'warmth' that resounds from an item hand-made...I picture homes at Christmas, where each made their gifts 4 one another...TRUE Gifts! Perhaps your 'time period' has given you a bit of angst (can't sit still - your words) making you feel U R always 'late' for things. LOL! The reverse strap idea is a good one, it reminds me of a Sean Connery film I once viewed and his character insisted on wearing socks inside out. He stated when asked (paraphrased) 'What is the point of wearing the agitating seams against your foot? Keep them out.' With all we witness of your fine talents, methinks U R the 'stuff of Legends'. And here's the proof; "If your actions inspire others to dream more, Learn more, Do more, and become more. You are a leader." (John Quincy Adams). Thanks Catherine 4 your fine hand and wonderful heart. Health and God Bless! :)
There is nothing finer in my opinion then receiving a hand made gift and quite frankly the quality of the item is immaterial. Now on to socks. A good friend of mine purposely miss matches all his socks. His rationale is that he never has to worry about the single ones that come out of the washer. Having said that, I do believe he wears them right side out, lol. I will most definitely pass on your encouraging words the Cathy.
I constructed my possibles bag from leather repurposed from a 1979 Lincoln Towncar seat. The only thing authentic about it would be the stitching and the repurposing LOL.
Ah, but you made it yourself and that my friend is what makes it special. Too funny about your source of material… hope you took it out of the back seat, lol.
When I was a police officer, I was famous for cutting up leather couches found on the curbs.
Very nice craftsmanship on the bags that you made tonight. Thank you.
Thanks Richard.
Merci ! 🪡
You are most welcome, Steve.
Thanks for taking us along on the build, that's a great looking bag!
Thanks Jeff, they turned out pretty nice.
So glad to see you again my friend I'm been down with cancer treatment and have a really been able to respond to your videos but I've been watching him you're a great inspiration for history and how to survive I certainly do appreciate all your knowledge and understanding of what's going on in the world and the old days too we should know our history that is important to everyone in me and you bring it to me every week thank you my friend I'm feeling a little better but I wanted to respond to let you know I'm still here catching those great videos and you've given me a great inspiration for life love always your friend Freddie 👍😀😎🛶🇨🇦
I hope you keep feeling better and better, Freddie. A lot of us get to the other side of that hill! This is Cathy. Peter has been cancer free for 4 years.
Best of luck with your treatment Freddie. Hang in there.
Strong & practical. The workmanship is obvious.
You are a genuine "allrouder" to use a cricket term - more than handy at everything - ideally suited to your 18th century.
It would be interesting to see the hunter panicking to get his second shot prepped as a large wounded animal took exception to his presence. He'd need a well organised shooting bag!!
I love the old word "accoutrements"!!
Can't say I have heard it for years, but you use it often on your channel.
My son says I use the “a” word in every second sentence, lol. You gave me a smile with the wounded animal scenario. Best to make darn sure on that first squeeze of the trigger than an excited a hasty pull of the trigger the second time.
@@TheWoodlandEscape
Haha. Or pick smaller game - like a "wee" joey kangaroo!!!
Just getting my bag together for a hunt. Good video
Good luck on your hunt, Chuck and thank you.
Very informative and entertaining, looks like a good bit of fun. Once again the Ariel intro was very cool.
About 7 x 8” or there about.
You do find work
The above dimensions were meant for someone else … I must be getting old and forgetful.
Beautiful work! I also like your duds.
Thank you very much!
That is some nice work! I love working with leather and making my own accoutrements. Thanks so much for the video.
It certainly is a satisfying past time. The fanciest things made can’t compare to things made with ones own hands. Thanks for the compliment, James.
A very interesting video as usual! You do a fine job of sewing I can tell you have very strong hands, and that's what you need for sewing leather together!
And as usual, I thank you for your continued interest.
No doubt you two would have thrived in the 1700’s. One of many compliments I could give you and Catherine. I am amazed by the breadth of your knowledge and skill sets. It is an absolute joy watching the two of you. Keep up the great work and as always, thanks for taking the time to share!!
Thank you very much for your interest and encouragement!
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY USA brother and everyone else thank you for sharing your live history videos
Good to know there's another local here.
Hi my friend
Thanks Earl. We are practically neighbors… we’re about 4 hours north of Syracuse.
That means you are in the United States of America
@@earlshaner4441 Memphis outside of Baldwinsville
Love these tutorial videos
Glad you like them!
Excellent
Thank you.
Thank you for sharing this with us Paul. Just learned how to make a shot bag.
Making your own sure beats buying one … a feeling of accomplishment as you carry it in the field.
Those shooting bags look quite fine and probably smell a some better than if you'd thrown a cowhide under the manure pile to tan it. Luck on your hunting, Peter. We've already smoked and devoured half a loin this year. Lookin' for more to make out the winter.
Thanks Larry. My hunt starts Monday morning and I’ll be hunting for the next 3 weeks. Good luck with your hunt.
ANOTHER great video! I travel the united states going to muzzleloader and mountain man shows. I live in the free state of Florida. if you ever decide to go to the shows in Florida let me know. I have several condos empty right now you are more than welcome to stay in one during your visit. you bring my wife and I such great enjoyment to our lives during all the madness in the world today. Thanks.
Thanks for the offer and thank you for the encouragement!
Nice work Peter, wish I had the patience to do that type of leather work. Made some harness for mules and some repair work,but nothing that accomplished. Thanks Once Again, Cathy and Peter 🙂.
A friend made the harnesses for our team of horses. It was a crazy amount of work and you had to really know what you were doing. Hats off to you!
A great tutorial on how things were done. It's nice to either begin my morning or end my day watching one of these.
Thanks, Ken.
When did leather sewing machines come along? It would be great if many early history appreciators could own such a nicely sewn together piece of your handiwork. On a limited scale you could still make the completely handmade ones also. Nice work Peter.
The first sewing machine was invented in 1790, but didn’t come into common use til the mid 1800’s. Thank you. Jeff’s bag is a true work of art and skill!
Please increase the volume on your videos. GREAT CHANNEL!!
Thanks for the feedback, we’ll look into it.
Excellent video, as always.
Thank you.
@ 12:47---I always start the first needle in the second hole, or area, where I want the stitches to be, then through the first hole, then back through the second hole again. This gives you a strong, neat, stitch to start. And at the end, you just back stitch one hole, and your done.
Great advice, Wally, I appreciate that and will be doing that on future bags.
Very nice bags Peter. I've made a sporran, and a pair of moccasans. I just never figured out how to put fur on the inside. Be well my friend, and my best to the Mrs.
If you have some fur on hide, simply sew a pair of inner centre seam Mocs rather than try and sew it to the moccasins themselves. Thing of them as warm socks, lol.
Nice job Peter. I once had a bull's scrotum on the trailer hitch of my El Camino but lost it on the 401. Good luck hunting.
Gotta hate that but, gotta love an El Camino, lol. I assume yours hunter Dave, so good luck to you as well.
Great job on thebag
Thanks Mike.
Fantastic video as always Peter! I also use this pouch format, I think your friends will truly enjoy using those.
Thank you and I’m hoping they will not only like but, use them till they are thread bare.
very nice leather work, hard on the fingers I'll bet
It. Actually isn’t to hard at all but, it is a slow process.
Thank you for your time wanting to teach us. I watch the other guy too. I guess he's gotten rich off hocking his wares that he's actually providing content that isn't a commercial.
Thank you.
I’ve always enjoyed sharing knowledge as much as appreciate learning it from others. Appreciate your continued interest.
Nice work Peter.
Thanks Jack.
Made one years ago out of deer hide surprising the approximate size of yours. Yours is much nicer by far but the carrying of something I made myself gives me a bit of pride. Had a guy I know tell me "You know they sell those". If you don't know why someone makes something themselves then I guess I can't explain it. Thanks again for keeping the spirit alive.
Spot on, Mark, the answer would never understand your reasons. As to mine being prettier, there is nothing as pretty as something made by ones own hand.
Very nice work on those two shooting bags. Anyone would be proud to own one such as these two bags.
As always I really enjoy your instructional content and your easy going, laid back commentary.
I just returned from a primative living history rendezvous in the wilds of the Florida North West panhandle. This video just brought back those memories from my trek last week. Practicing and taking part in the old ways always brings appreciation and joy to my heart.
We certainly share the same passion, Denis. Thanks for your interest.
such amazing leatherwork
Thank you.
Those are beautiful bags🐝🤗❤️
Thank you. Jeff’s is a work of art.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Yes, it really is🐝🤗❤️
Hello Peter & Family. I found your bag video very interesting. In making a knife sheath, I cross each stitch, making a knot in the welt. This just in case one of the stitches gets cut, the knots will prevent it from unravaling all the way. Not so much a problem with your well done bag. Cheers.
Actually my friend that is a very prudent stitch to use. As to well done, we’ll see how long they last. I hope my friends use them until they are thread bare.
Mr.Pete...great job as usual.I love your teaching the skills of our ancestors. The ingenuity and resourcefulness is amazing. Merry Christmas and a hope for a healthy and happy New Year!!!! Robin
And a very Merry Christmas to you and your clan, Robin.
Appreciate your efforts and dedication! That's a great little bag. I have done a fair bit of leather work in my day. I have sold a number of my works through out the years. I will be starting a new bag shortly. As a graduation gift I make a leather bag for each of my kids. Anything they want. They pick the color, style and size. Thanks again and keep your powder dry!
Thanks Ashley. I’d love to see some of your work. You can email pictures if you’d like. Watch yer top knot.
@@TheWoodlandEscape I will do my best. This tech stuff is brutal to me.
You and me both, Cathy is the brains when it comes to computers.
@@TheWoodlandEscape I tried sending some pictures. Not sure if you received them.
Didn't make deer but elk is it's 2 weeks out and we got some fish coming up the river too some coho so I'll be able to get some of those I might get a late season deer tag maybe I still have a lot of work on the inside of the cabin to do I got a lot of a lot of cabinets to build but it's livable right now
Livable is good. Good luck with you elk hunt.
Leather work is a very therapeutic chore, if you will. Too many now days use a machine for stitching, or a Speedy Stitcher,
the saddle stitch is SOOOO much more superior! Next you need to show how you made the shot pouch. Others have but curious about yours. Thanks for the channel and your vids!
That’s a good idea. I’ll do that.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Can't wait!
great information and well put together for the videos. A good leather craftsman still uses the awl and nothing else to poke holes while saddle stitching.
Thanks for watching!
Beautiful leather work by the way. I like the way those turned out. I restore vintage Coleman lanterns and I started making/selling leather handle covers so the handles don’t dent the tank. A bit of work but I enjoy it. I get to use some of my dad’s old leather working tools as well which is a bonus. You could double up on your strap and stitch two pieces together with the smooth side out. Just what you need. More work. Sorry. Never mind. Haha.
Restoring vintage lanterns would be interesting. Great idea to make handle covers. I think I’ll pass on doubling up the strap, though, lol.
Only shot a muzzle loader once, never saw where the bullet went, to much power smoke. Very interesting what you need to take with you. Great video Peter. Keep yer power dry
This is Cathy. He’s off hunting, so I hope his powder stays dry!
@@TheWoodlandEscape HI Cathy, hope Peter gets what he's hunting for
Saddle stich. Get one length of thread that is extra long for the job. Tie a couple of knots in one place in the middle of it's length. Put the needles on both ends of the single thread. The needles go back and forth through the same hole in the leather. Saddle stitch. If you learn this you won't need much else. 8-) This all works a lot easier if you hold your leather in a leather horse.
I’ve always wanted to make a leather horse but, I don do enough leatherwork to warrant it. Maybe I’ll make one this winter.
Fascinating and interesting. What animal leather did you use? Did women use those bags? I know they wore cloth pockets in their slips.
Women were more inclined to wear what was commonly referred to as a market wallet but, there is first person accounts of them carrying haversacks … a much larger bag. I used vegetable tanned cow hide for these two bags.
Wow, Peter. I think you might be selling yourself quite a bit short on your craftsmanship. That’s a small handful of really beautiful bags.
Appreciate that Kevin. My leather work will soon be put to the test as I’m stating the leather lung bellows for my blacksmith shop.
Nice work...! I find that smaller bags help keep things down to the necessities.
Have you tried using 3F? It's the only granulation I use these days for every caliber, even for priming.. Ignites easier and also uses less powder for the same punch as 2F.
Really enjoying the channel...
Thanks for the video...
I agree, bigger bag equates to bigger load. I’ve used it all including my home made but, the reason I prefer 2f is, I find the larger granular are much less prone to humidity. I don’t get flashes in the pan with 2f. Your probably right about speed of ignition but, I think it is really minimal. A finely tuned lock is more important. I appreciate your interest in our channel and never tire of talking history and guns …keep your powder dry.
Watched this a second time and the bag looks great you truly are gifted to know how to do so many thing. Of particular interest the extra parts and tools you carry for repairing Jenny in the field, experience in the field must have taught you to do this. What a bummer it must be to draw a bead on Game to have something break right at that time.
And that has definitely happened!
Nice work!
Thanks!
I think a great video would be the in and outs of the flintlock rifle , I've often thought about getting one but i really don't much about them ! Thanks again for all the great videos !
Great idea, we’ve work on producing an episode on just that.
@@TheWoodlandEscape that will be awesome thankee Peter !
I like your hat and the feathers. What bird do they belong to?
They are wild Turkey feathers.
After watching a bunch of your videos, I see that many people (myself included) have asked about the trade silver pins. Perhaps we could hear more about them. I'd also love to see an up close discussion on your other edc wares, such as your neck knives and the tomahawk you made in conjunction with other makers. Thanks again for what you (both) do.
Those are great ideas and I thank you for planting the seeds of another episode.
Sir your knowledge is amazing thanks for sharing
Thank you.
I'm curious about the gourd canteen you have hanging on the wall in the background. Grew a bunch of these gourds this summer, but can't figure out how I should attach the spout securely. Seems as if just gluing it on is a recipe for having it break off; is there a better way to attach it?
I actually glue them in and it has not been a problem.
Love your possible bags! I have made cartridge and cap boxes for US Civil War impressions, as well as bayonet scabbards. So I appreciate the work you are doing! Have you made a "belly box"? Curved block of wood with 18 or 20, holes deep enough to hold paper cartridges with / without the ball. There are straps on the front that the waist belt goes around and holds against hip or belly. Just a block of wood shaped like a kidney with a leather flap over it.
Thanks, Phillip and no I’ve never made a cartridge holder as you describe but, it sounds like a functional tool as well as a fun project.
Much smaller shooting bag than typically carried by Western fur trappers down here in the U states in the early 19th Century. About the same size of the leather belt bags that I make to sell at rendezvous. Good hunting.
Trapper Tom, Washington State.
Good hunting to you as well, Thomas. The mountain man era did indeed carry bags much larger, mine would be more representative of Eastern Longhunter.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Been scanning your video's since the weather has me bottled up, doing work with canvas on different projects, until this Gulf of Alaska low, blows itself out. Beautiful country that your cabin is in. Reminds me of my favorite movie " The Last of the Mohicans" with Daniel Day Lewis in it. Read the book, but prefer that particular movie.
One of my all time favorites!
Would you perhaps be so kind to show how Jeff did the gusset?
Thank you
I’m off for a moose hunting trip but, if you send me an email I’ll get back to you upon my return.
@@TheWoodlandEscape I would be happy to. But I don't want to write it here in the comment section. I will write on facebook.
Thank you
I have a bag my Father made that I think is a reproduction of a Continental soldier’s “ necessary bag”. It is much larger as I think the carried many pre rolled cartridges. I am not certain if I should just use this bigger bag for hunting or make a smallish one for day hunts?
My motto, use what you got. I often carry my shooting stuff in my large haversack and leave the shooting bag at home.
Thanks Peter. We used to go to Washington’s last cantonment in Newburg, New York. i think the design came from something he saw there
Awesome video Peter! I made my bag and powder horn earlier this year, I wish I could share some pictures! Gotten alot of compliments at some events, even from some of the old guys that are members of the CLA! It is always fun to make something with your hands. What's everyone in the comments favorite thing to make?? I like making powder horns personally.
I like making things from horns, as well. You can send pictures to our email.
Howdy peter
Looks very handy ... I brought a lot more with me when I went hunting with my bow...
Is that the same stitch you used on your canoe ?
Done a few thing with leather when I was hunting , quiver worked out great and lasted so much longer ... friends were buying new ones offend and I had the same for many years .
You will able to make some buckles when you get your blacksmith shop agoin'
Good luck on your hunt !
It is indeed the same stitch . Nothing beats making things with ones own hands. I will indeed be able to make those buckles very soon. Good luck with your hunt as well.
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Your a machine with videos! I still have one more to get to , then I'm caught up! I like these how to videos! I'm going to try tanning the pig hides this year. If you are interested I can bring you one! You can do a video! I have a question about bear fat, could one substitute bear with racoon fat? I got 7 of them this year,but no bear! I was going to try pig fat as well for the musket! I have alot of pig fat! Great video!
I think any rendered fat will work. I suspect coon fat would be excellent. I’ve found over the years that avoiding and petroleum products works best. Lubing patches or cushion wads is great using fat and rust of metal parts is kept in check. Never done a pig skin before. Can I get back to you on your offer. I have 7 deer hides in the freezer that are grained and membraned and I’ll no doubt have a few fresh ones in the next couple of weeks. Still waiting for that visit, perhaps after hunting season.
Sometimes I see "fringe" on shooting bags. Is there any historical significance shooting bags with fringe on them? Thanks!
There is little or no documentation for fringed anything until one gets into the mountain man era of the early 1800. In the 1700,s it would have been pretty rare. As to practicality, I really don’t know why so, my quests it was just the fashion of the day.
@@TheWoodlandEscape thanks! I thought maybe it added in drying the bottom of the garmet/moisture wicking or something perhaps.
Fringe helps keep the flies off the watermelon
Nice video! If you left all those heavy steel tools behind and just carried additional pre-made 62-cal lead balls how many would that be? 20? Is 20 not enough?
You raise an excellent point. Historically they did just that. The exception would have been being called up for Militia duty and if one was a long hunter. Long hunters were hired by the fur trapping companies and their primary job was to keep meat in the stew pots. Often they wer3 gone for 3 to 5 months and would be required to run balls in the field. I do it primarily to simply experience what they had to do.
@@TheWoodlandEscape I love your sense of history. I think that is why I like your channel. Being a common farmer/hunter I am not sure even with those tools I could just find lead in the field to cast. I would not have the ability to find my own supply chain.
Lead was sold at all trading post in the form of long thin bars. It was cheap and readily available on the frontier.
What's the story on all the little blanket pins on your shirt?
Trade silver, a very common item in the 1700’s. Could literally be used as currency at a trading post for goods. In a time period on the frontier when hard currency was a rarity.
What did you stain the leather with?
I use Fiebings leather products and I get mine through Tandy Leather. I believe Amazon also carries this line .
Well I got my strap backwards. I wanted the brass buckle I got on the front.
I prefer it that way as it is less likely to interfere with powder and shot measures that are worn on the front.
Did I see a vent pick?
I carry my vent pick in the weave of my powder horn sling.
Would you estimate the size of your bag that you mad?
It is approximately 7 x 8”.
Do you think the canoe will suffer once the shop is producing dry heat? Door locks; now that’s a modern concept and concern. (JF)
The canoe should be fine.
I wasn’t planning a door lock, just a latch.
How I wish I could pay you a visit. Idl sleep in the tavern and bring my spices to make a delicious meat stew for you and your family!
Our tavern door is open for anyone that has a passion for history and especially if your gonna feed me.
Leather workers were called cordwainers. No idea why.
Well now, that is certainly a new one for me … learn something everyday they say, thank you.
Roger clark..
Acually.. a cordwainer is a shoe maker specially trained in making shoes from scratch!
Thanks for sharing that.
What are the dimensions of the small bag please?
8”:deep and 7” wide. It has a 1 1/2” gusset in the bottom which significantly increases the volume .
what part of canada do you hail from.
We live in Eastern Ontario.
Shooting bags seem like they were to small to carry what they needed.
I would have agreed before I actually started to do historical trekking. They do work but, one has to be very selective. I think they were constantly taking steps to reduce weight.
Dont you think buying that on Amazon would be cheaper and take less time lol
Haha
@@TheWoodlandEscape Just messing with ya love your videos lol
Keep your stick on the ice
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If they can’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.
@@TheWoodlandEscape 😅😆🤣😂👍❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤