How To Make A Leather Vessel - Building a Shot Bag | PIONEER LIFE | 1700's | HISTORY | FRONTIER
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- Peter gives a tutorial on how to make a leather vessel. He demonstrates making a shot bag, stitching the leather with waxed Irish linen and forming the bag using sand. He uses an inked loom to make the lanyard.
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Best channel on CZcams
Thank you so much!
This is a fantastic channel and much appreciated.
After studying survival for over 30 years and then zeroing in on primitive and pioneer skills I have learned MUCH from your work.
Love the history you present and can't thank you enough for the information you present.
Thank you!
Flattered, Richard, thank you.
@@TheWoodlandEscape My father used 3 or 4 strands of Irish cotton. He pulled the strands through a bar of cobblers wax and then rolled the strands on his knee to make one strong strand of waxend as it was called. He used it to repair horse harness and boots.You are a very interesting man.
Good luck
Paddy from Ireland.
Pete, you deserve way, way more subscribers than you have. But you'll get there!
That would be nice but, we don’t do this for numbers as much as a passion for history and a desire to share.
Awesome work Peter.
Excellent work - I don't think there is anything more satisfying than leatherwork.
It is a relaxing pastime, indeed.
Love the shot pouch there eh! Everything I watch you make makes me think... hey I want one lol...
Most of the things make aren’t all hat hard … give it a try Denis, you might be surprised at what you can create.
Dear Mr. Kelly, I very like the way you live like people 300 years ago. Cheers from germany.
Thanks! 😃. It was an interesting era indeed!
craftsmanship is good for the soul
I love this channel. How it does not have millions of subscribers confounds me.
Appreciate your feedback. We certainly do seemed to be stalled in terms of interest. Perhaps people are getting tired of the old man, lol. We actually do this out of the pleasure , not the compensation, so as long as it remains fun, it will continue.
You just added one more subscriber. I just found your channel a couple of days ago. Great job.
@@TheWoodlandEscapeyou're a hidden gem, that's for sure. Maybe you can meet with the Townsend's team and steer a little of the 18th century enjoyers your way. It would be great for the lot of you
Your channel is aptly named as I do not come here so much for instruction as to hide out for a bit in 18th century America; a time and place that run deep in my being. Thank you for another gentle and meaningful demonstration.
I’m on board with you, Lowell. I almost gone from hiding away from our modern word to being hidden completely. I appreciate your interest and support.
Nice work 🙂👍
Thank you Mr. Kelly, for another fine tutorial. By far this is the best channel on CZcams.
Such a kind compliment, than you, Kirk.
Hello:
I LOVE this channel!!! I just became a subscriber. I'm an 18th. and 19th. century knife and accoutrements maker from Pennsylvania. I started making knives in 1966 and accoutrements in 1977. I made modern hunting knives for the first 30+ years then switched to the PC/HA knives about 26 years ago. i would like to see more knife and sheath related videos. Sorry, just my preference. Please keep up these great videos. The world needs to remember it's history through it's crafts.
God bless:
Two Feathers
Proprietor of:
The Mountain Man Emporium
Berwick, Pa.
That is so true! And, thanks for subscribing!
Peter you are one multi talented individual! I hope you and the family are well. Thanks for sharing.
Jack of all trades, master of none ! All is fine here and I trust with you as well.
Good evening Peter and friends. Thanks for another history lesson and for sharing the construction of the shot bag. Your friend will definitely be thankful for such a wonderful gift. Cold day here also but tomorrow and next week the weather warms back up. Spring is not far away here. Have a great rest of your weekend and thanks again friend. Until next time take care and be safe.
Yup, that there sun has some power in it. That is when it comes out,lol.
Great video as always, take care
I'm aware of the current beliefs about the dates of inkle looms. My grandfather, born in 1903 often wove inkles (he called them straps) on an old ladderback chair without a woven seat on it. He often told of how his father had instructed him on how to do this because my great-grandfather had an arm amputated (before my grandfather was born) and could no longer weave. I don't know when and how my great-grandfather learned to weave on a chair frame, or how common it was, but it's a very effective loom that keeps perfect tension. The chair was still used as a chair, but had wooden slats that were tied on to serve as a seat when it wasn't in use as a loom. It only takes four sticks, some heddles, and my grandfather's boot laces to become the loom.
I demonstrate this in public in hopes that I find someone else who knows of this, but so far I haven't found anyone else who has seen it done.
Edit to say that you can't just wrap the warp around the frame, or it's difficult to wind it and there's no way to tension it. One of the seat slats is tied to the bottom of the two back legs and the warp wound around it when going around the entire chair frame. The seat board is then removed and a stick (about a foot long and 1" dia) is used to pull the warp forward and is tied to the chair frame with a loop of heavy cord or shoelaces. Two small sticks are inserted in the loops of cord and twisted to provide tension. One end of the little stick rests against the frame and tension holds it in place.
Wow, that is fascinating, thank you for sharing.
@@TheWoodlandEscape I have photos and an explanation of how it's done online, and could send a link, but it's only available to members of Ravelry (a site for weavers, spinners, knitters, etc.).
It is interesting that you sewed that so well it was airtight enough to act as a balloon and be blown up!
That or, I’m simply full of hot air, lol.
@@TheWoodlandEscape lol
When I knew less than I do now I made one out of deer skin with a drilled out 45-70 case for a spout. Still use it but yours is a work of art and is another inspiration for us to try. Thanks to both of you.
Your sounds pretty good. They say , if it works don’t mess with it, lol.
That was quite a shot pouch you made, I am sure your friend will love it. Want to thank you and Kathy for another wonderful video.
We appreciate your kind words.
That is a very nice gift, I'm sure he will appreciate it greatly. Thanks for sharing this project!
Thanks Jan.
good point about the wee bit
wonderfull
Hi Peter! That shot pouch will make a fine addition to your friend's collection! Spring is just around the corner; and I'm looking forward to seeing what you have on, "The Seemingly Endless List Of Chores To Be Done"! Take care and stay warm!
Not looking much like spring here Matin but, just around the corner.. we have lots of stuff planned for the changing of the season
Nice muli-use on that powder measure sand funnel. So many times I've looked around my workshop for a make-do tool in place of one I didn't have, grabbed another and said "this'll work"........
For sure and even if I have the tool, finding it another story.
Thank you for another great video.
Love the feedback, Robert and the fact that your enjoying our efforts.
I just happened on your video while searching for how to make a ball bag and I'm glad I found your channel. I find myself not being able to do as much as I use to since I was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, so I try to keep my mind and hands as busy as I can. I had some scrap leather, thread, and a needle, so we shall see how my first bag turns out. Your instructions are easy to follow and I enjoyed the history lesson about canteens and rice farmers in the old south. If my first one doesn't turn out as well as I hope, I'll try, try, again. Thank you, sir.
You’ve got yourself a very good attitude, Scott. I suspect you’ll be turning out some fine leather gear before you know it. Glad you found our channel and we appreciate your interest.
@@TheWoodlandEscape I finished my ball bag as promised and I am very happy with it. I used rice instead of sand because I had some old rice left over in a bag and cut a piece of deer antler for the plug. I made a strap out of three rawhide boot laces. I suspect I will be making more ball bags as well as other items. Thanks again.
Peccato che non so l inglese , francese e spagnolo si,
Sei veramente un uomo eccezipnale, e un.piavete guardarti ed vedere v ha e forza tiri fuori per realizzare con calma il tuo vivere. Cplimenti!!? Vorrei vedere anche dove dormi . Guardarti mi fai passare momenti sereni . Grazie Uomo Libero 💙🌿💐🌿
great job Pete .
Thank you!
Perfect timing Peter! I need to make a shot pouch and ball bag for the new Fowler build. Thanks for this excellent tutorial and the history lesson!
My pleasure Hatchet Jack, good luck with your project.
Another excellent video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and skills.
Thank you.
Nice looking shot pouch sir
great job Peter! good history lesson too! keep them coming!
Oh man so cool thanks again.
Appreciate your efforts and dedication! The history of modern agriculture is something that we owe a lot to our ancestors. It is a shame that food is something that seems to be taken for granted, not to mention the monumental efforts of trial and error that must have been endured to figuring these things out. Vessels are on my list of projects. All the materials are at hand, now I just need to find the time. Thanks again and keep your powder dry!
We take food for granted until we miss a few meals, then reality sets in. Such a fragile world, when few have any idea of seed propagation, growing and preserving food.
Wonderful video Pete! I remember watching my dad make water canteens when I was a child when he'd come home from trapping, but he would use very small ball bearings and they would leave tiny bumps in the leather. So he'd have to moisten the leather a bit and use something smooth and hard to rub the bumps out, which in return would create a couple more steps for him. I'm sure if he had of thought of using sand, his life would have been easier 🤔 😆. I'll have to let him know about your video... it'll make the light bulb turn on in his head!
But to quote you my good sir...
"A wee bit of history"
Did you know that in the 17th century in places such as Florence and Venice Italy, it was all the rage to use leather as wall paper? It was a great fashion to wallpaper the entire home with leather!
Thanks for the wonderful video once again! Have a great day!
Now the leather wall paper thing is new to me, rather fascinating. Let me know what your dad thinks of my technique.
@@TheWoodlandEscape I remember learning about leather wallpaper in public school in history class. We were learning about the fur trading in Canada and some of their uses. Whilst learning about it, the topic of uses in other areas of the world came up. Apparently in some of the more well off homes, artists would come in to do engravings in the leather to add designs in certain rooms!
I called my dad to let him know about using sand, and he said jokingly, "you can't find sand in the winter time" 😂
I suppose he's right! Digging through 3-4 feet of snow to find sand would be a challenge 😆. Although I'm betting he just never thought of it 😆
I stumbled across one vidio an immediately subbed So very interested in your content I believe my ancestors were from your area in Canada. Hence my last name Cajun from Louisiana. Thank you Sir
Thanks so much, Timothy, we certainly appreciate your interest and support.
Great history talk and a beautiful well made gift
The friend will be very happy with such a great gift that was made with such care.
I’m thinking, a really good friend would say they were happy even if a wee bit disappointed, lol.
Very interesting to hear about rice origins, and of course the leather project!
Living in Arkansas the largest rice producer in the states, I had never realized how long it had been a crop in America.
The teaching and history R top notch but 2 me this speaks VOLUMES on relationships. I mean, who? would take allllllll that 'time and effort' 2 make a gift 4 another, except 4 an ESPECIAL friend or from a friend that is ESPECIAL. YIKES! One had better not have 2 many 'especial' friends or not much would get done around the homestead. Your friend need only watch this vid 2 C 'how much U care/respect him'. Maybe just edit out the part about using a piece of; 'an old broken ramrod'. LOL! U know it could B just such instances of leisurely making, that the idea strikes 2 invent i.e. 'the sandbag'. I like 2 ponder such things until proven wrong! Takes me back 2 the stories of the Mayan/Aztecs, who would carry chia in pouches 2 assist them in long journeys. Chia having such amazing healing and restorative powers. Each area it's own resources and peoples blessed 2 invent. I find it all so fascinating 2 learn. Thank U Peter n' Catherine 4 sharing your time/talents with us. Health n' God Bless! U must have 'tough' feet Peter, the opening shot was of U sitting in the snow...I would have backed up into the grass...wuss that I am! :)
And yet another smile, Marie. To be honest, I could as easily put the effort in making stuff for a complete stranger. Got to keep busy!
very nice job!
So enjoyable to watch and appreciate the skills . It takes a lot of dedication to keep them going and all is hard work ....the evidence is in the hands . I have been crafting copper objects since boyhood , mostly as a hobby, and have gifted practically every object I have made to family or friends , it is the most pleasurable part of being able to craft something out of materials that feel natural to handle .It is a pleasure to hear him explain what he is going to make , how he is going to make it and if it is a gift ...the best part .
Thanks to gentlemen like Pete these historic things will remain in our cultures.
Like you JD, I’ve yet to sell a darn thing as it would take the shear pleasure out of gifting it to someone. The crafts today are the artifacts of tomorrow!
I live in SC and we are currently camping on the Little Pee Dee River. We still produce rice here and it is called Carolina Gold. We went by the farm today .
Good to hear your out there camping … kinda nice to get a wee bit closer to Mother Earth
Thanks for the video and the tutorial, i have been wanting to build a leather canteen for some time and this was just the motivation that i needed!
Good for you Jeff you’ll enjoy this simple project.
Nice work very original thank you for this video always loved watching your shows very interested I think I'm going to Dua program on shoe making I am a fourth-generation Shoemaker
Thanks Bobby. I would love to watch how shoes are made, quite the trade.
Another very interesting video, leathercraft was certainly a large part of harvesting game.
The leather vessel is quite nice as are the examples that are a part of Peter's pioneer outfit.
There is a very peaceful and warm vibe to The Woodland Escape videos. I find them so relaxing and for a moment I'm lost in time...
Pete is quite captivating, and I can relate to another viewer's comment that the length of the videos is easily lost due to how well my attention is fixed.
I've learned a lot from the Wee Bits of History, mostly the dates and attributions has helped me to have a better timeline of certain historical events and technology dates and their origins.
I've seen very large areas of wild rice in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area, unfortunately we were too early to harvest any to cook up with our fish.
Very flattering comments, Mark.. Thank you so much. Cathy and I have canoed in Quetico, right across the border from your canoeing area.
Nice to watch as always. Makes one reflect on how things didn't come so easy as they do these days in this instant gratification society. I like the idea of simpler times. Take care, can't wait for more content.
Thanks, Paul.
Thank for sharing another skill with its respective story with us. Looking forward to your next upload. Just a side note, tonight is Spring Forward and guess what? It means we will be enjoying your spring-summer adventures. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Elmos. As to that time change thing, I never quite got the rationale. Daylight savings, go figure… there are so many hours in a day, how on earth have we saved any of it, lol. Thanks for your continued interest.
A Lovely pouch and strap Peter! I made a number of pouches for my different sized lead balls and shot as well. Several of them I took 18th century hardware, rosettes and an eagle in brass, wet one side and pressed the brass in the leather between boards. This went into the wooden vise on my old workbench for a few days until dry. This made a nice period design on the pouches. I thought I would be able to remember what caliber in what pouch by the design, well I still find myself checking anyway. Thanks Kindly! Many Blessings and less irons in the fire! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
I love that idea and it is something I’ll be trying, appreciate you sharing it.
Peter amazing history lesson the pot looks stunning thank you for skill and knowledge looking forward to the next video always Freddie 🙂
What I've noticed, is when I watch your channel , the time slips by. I often say, I can't believe 25 minutes went by. Other channels are painfully slow.
Well now, Jeffery, that is quite a compliment. Thank you.
Agree
Hi from Syracuse NY USA brother and everyone else thank you for sharing different parts of history
Thanks for sharing your time with us.from Ohio
I enjoy your different adventures in history ( videos) and I buy different things from your website also because I am a 1754 re-enacter and I and my group of re-enacters are part of the Royal Rangers ministry in the Assembly of GOD churches
I'm sorry about that last part of the last message brother
May I ask how much land you own? My wife and I love your land and especially your cabins. We are wanting something like it for a weekend retreat to take our grandsons to hopefully to teach them some of the lost ways. Thanks for doing these shows one of the best channels on you tube.
We have 41 acres , Timothy.
My favorite Channel on CZcams. I'm learning so much!
Thank you Willow, we appreciate your kind words.
I love the history bits. What a fantastic gift, and you made it look so easy to make.
Thanks Jeanie. Making gifts for someone you like is never hard!
Another awesome video, Peter, and a great project . I just got back from breaking trail ....again ! It seems that the snowshoes won't be put in storage anytime soon :- ]
I know … just when you think it is over, good old Mother Earth comes along and with no apology, says, I’m still in charge!
@@TheWoodlandEscape Yes indeed . The sap will run again soon, and the snow will go, but meanwhile....it sure is beautiful out in the woods !
Good Evening Mr. Pete! The wee bit on rice I would never of guessed. Nice how -to on the shot bag. Your friend is very lucky to receive such a nice gift. Glad to see you are doing those how-to's. Always a great way to pass on your knowledge and to carry on those skills.
Stay well my friend...Robin
Thank Robin.
You have shown some of the neatest contraptions from the past. Many times I wondered how they did this and that...now I'm seeing how they managed to make stuff! Its all so fascinating. These videos are invaluable as a lot of that stuff has almost been forgotten. The way things are looking in our world, we may have to go back to some of that and you will be ahead of the game. 😮
Thank you. I’m kinda stuck in an earlier time and I kinda like it!
Excellent! The history and stories are very interesting.
Pete, speaking of grandkids doing interesting period projects, Ann & I do the "French River Camp" (in French River, MN) for our grandkids that delves into that as well as other skills and knowledge. You may wish to try something similar
Food for thought. We really appreciate your interest in our channel.
Just finished one up myself this morning, so was especially interested to see how yours was made! I used a long strip of scrap fabric (an old bathrobe belt, cut in half width-wise) instead of sand -- it took some finagling to keep it from being lumpy (pounded out the lumps with a shoemaker's hammer), but was easy to pull out and didn't require cleaning. Really need to make an inkle loom so I can make straps as nice as yours though!
Great idea, David.
The wa y you make stuff is so great, really enjoy watching all your videos, between the history and the products, bravo!
Your "wee bit if history" is fantastic & your definition of "wee bit" is is so true.
What intrigues me is that the so called 'woke' movement plus more & more indigenous races promoting their heritages are minutely filling in some of those missing historical events / facts. But so much is hidden or lost forever - basically for the benefit of the 'victor'.
Keep up the great videos!!
The current interest in indigenous culture is wonderful to see but, ( they say when one puts “but” in a sentence, that nothing matters that was written before the use of the word) so much has been lost and will never be regained . Residential Schools took entire generations away and with no written language, well, invaluable knowledge is lost to time.
Sorry Stephan, I meant to to thank you for your interest before venting.
@@TheWoodlandEscape
I think we agree here 100% Peter, you just put it so much clearer!!
Bandaids don't cover much!!!
That is so neat. I’m sure your friend will cherish that. Leather is amazing. I started doing leather work a few years ago. I am in to old lanterns and have been making leather handle covers for lanterns so they don’t beat the tanks up. Been giving them to friends/family that are also in to them.
Perfect spot by the fire to work on your hobbies. Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks Steven.
It would be interesting to see you set up a new project on that loom. Like how things need to be strung up to get started and how you lay it out for a specific width.
The next sling I make, I will do just that, Steven.
Was Becket the Archbishop of whom you speak? Just wondered, he's my patron Saint. If I had time, I'd watch these videos all day long.
Flattered by your kind comment.
Is that where the term “Pounding Sand!” comes from? 😂
Well now, Randy, that is a great question. However one I can’t verify … nor research required.
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Appreciate all your interest in our channel.
Fantastic video, Peter! Built an inkle loom like that a number of years ago. Made a real dandy sash for the kit, but never got the matching garters finished. Hopefully, this will give me the incentive to make time. Really like that shot pouch project.
Thanks James. That old time thing, the one thing we can’t make more of!
Your videos are great. Amazing what you can teach folks from them. I really enjoy how everything on and around you is "period". What is the name or style of the hat that you are wearing in this video? Please keep the videos coming.
I appreciate that! The hat is often called a tricorn and was a very common style during the 1700. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for your reply. I meant the round hat with the brim and feather :) :) My bad.@@TheWoodlandEscape
They were commonly known as slouch hats, often with quite broad rims.
01:45 Put the last pin into the last hole, will look more regular.
I would like to know maybe see how you load the loom with the yellow and green cotton if possible old friend 🤔🥴😃
We will definitely demonstrate hat in the future.
love the video,I am going to make a pouch like that for my fowler,what are the dimensions and how much shot does it hold?
Roughly 4 x 4” and about 1 3/4” thick, it will hold 20 plus 1 5/8 ounce loads. More than I’ve ever come close to shooting in a day in the field.
Your videos are very interesting about life in the 1700s. I enjoy them very much. Did you ever try making paper cartridges with the ball and a measured amout of powder packed in it? So that you just ram it down the barrel in one move, instead of separate ball and powder loading? I don't know if that started in the 1700s or later.
It definitely was a common practice in the 1700’s with military but, not common with frontiersmen.
Great video as always. I have made a few soft shot pouches, but never a hard one like you did. It has been a to do project for some time now. What weight of leather did you use? Sorry if this has been asked before. Take care.
I think I used about 6 ounce vegetable tanned leather. Kinda a fun project, James, I think you’ll enjoy.
love your videos. what type of material is the string on your inkle loom? ( cotton, wool, jute)
I’ve used all three but, in this video it is cotton.
Hi Peter,
Fabulous job! How long did it take you to complete the weaving of the strap?
Best wishes,
Mark
Thank you. It is a pretty easy skill to learn on an inkle loom. I can easily make a strap in one evening by the fire.
Thanks for making this video, I’ll be making my own now. Just a thought, could you use shot to form the bag, less messy than sand?
Thanks Roger. Yes you can but, the surface quite bumpy. Actually, sand is not messy at all. Once the vessel has dried it simply pours out. Because it is packed it can require something lies tent peg to get it started. I use it to make drinking vessels as well, with no issues.
@@TheWoodlandEscape thanks for the reply, it’s always good to chat with those that are “ road wise “
Most needles are straight or curved in a half circle. Your needle appears “S” shaped. Is there a specific name for that style? Thank you.
Very observant, Mike. Not really sure of the name but, the actual needle end is groover shape ( 3 sided). .Quite ergonomic to use … I get mine from Tandy Leather.
The first one I made I was proud of. 2quart/ liter canteen. Waxed inside and out.
I live in the Ozarks, an old Indian word for steep and Rocky. My cord wasn’t as tight as it should be an I dropped it.
It hit flint rock
Pot might come from potable water by it broke as surely as a clay pot.
Umph.
Opps , that sucks!
Need to make yourself a stitching horse.
Is this bag for swan shot or round ball? What size of round ball?
Love inkle looms. I have a couple I made. Its tedious wrapping all the needed cordage on them before you start weaving. Maybe someday I will start weaving again. : )
I should make a stretching horse. The hard pouch is for shot. I find weaving a rather relaxing pastime.
Peter, if the pouch got wet again, would it lose its shape? Just wondering.
Not in the least… pretty much like a leather shoe maintains its shape. If one uses brain rained hide it will deform a little over time but, in a good way.
Thwre is wild rice, that is still utilized by native people today
Indeed, Stephen and it is on of my favorite foods. It grows in water and is harvested from canoes.
Anyone know anywhere in the U.K. which sells tool leather at a reasonable price? I’ve looked online and it’s all crazy money for little patches...
Try Tandy Leather. Good prices, good service.
@@TheWoodlandEscape thanks, I appreciate the tip, but it appears they closed down UK operations in 2019 and now service Europe-wide orders from Spain. Thanks to Brexit (what a disaster), it’s now expensive to ship things in to the U.K. from the rest of Europe.
That Brexit thing must have been a nightmare for you. I never could quite figure out why.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Partly is was a spectacularly uniformed electorate being asked a hugely complicated question...well...honestly, part of it was just the racists voting emotionally, rather than intelligently. Part of it was professional politicians doing an absolutely terrible job to explaining WHY being in a trading partnership with the EU was vital for ease of transport, tariff free purchase, smooth supply chains, science-collaboration, unified response to threats like Russia and sufficient labour for critical services, e.g. truck drivers, nurses, etc. Soooo many ‘Leave’ voters now regret their decision and have even lost their jobs because their employers NEEDED the benefits of the EU to make their business work.
what's the name of the song at the beginning
Sorry, I really don’t know. The music is provided by a couple of friends, often of there own making. I’ve been trying to get them to publish their music but, to no avail.
Heddle
instead of treadle.
Instead of sand or rice, why not just put bird shot in the pouch?
One could use shot but it would create a very bumpy surface… sand is certainly the best.
No really! Remember the Mayas and their books. They were burnt by the Conquistadores, ONLY 3 survived and they are not in Mexico or Guatemala.
I should have said North American. The Cherokee nation were on the cusp of having a written language.