Hey guys, I found this VHS at a small train gathering under a church for $1. Thanks to Peter for getting this digital (I now have my own means, but did not at the time). If anyone wants I can also scan a P42DC Operators Troubleshooting Guide.
Oh VHS ! Thanks, I now understand the relatively poor quality of this video. It's interesting, though, but could have been much better with an engineer actually acting the different components and switches, and explaining them, than an added voice (think of a plane cockpit visit) Thanks for sharing !
Right? If i need to operate a P42, this video omitted one key detail, where the hell is the entire crew? The LSA is even more qualified to operate these than i.
A **RETIRED** UPRR "Operator," Excuse ME!!! Let me hock out & Chock OUT my CUD of SKOAL!!! DAMMIT!!!!!!!! DONE!!!!!!!! I, on the JOB, the J-O-B, have OPERATED...uh. Full STOP!!! Have ***RUN*** these units FIVE TIMES, SEE?!? Have Also RUN--Not "OPERATED" Nor have "DRIVEN," as I am from the UNITED STATES of the AMERICA...to REPEAT to WORLD, but also to those in **THIS** NATION who need CLARIFACATION, I have indeed *RUN* every AMTRAK Locomotive currently in service (excluding all ELECTRIC UNITS Currently in service), and am proud of this fact!!!
The video bring back memories. In the late 70's I worked for Amtrak in Chicago, as a journeyman machinist with the EMD F-40 some sdp-40's and the Brighton park French version turboliners. Also a once in a blue moon a P-30ph from Louisiana dropped by the shop. Good old days
This is a remarkable video to have posted for rail fans, especially the hard-core cab ride types. While the detail is way beyond comprehensible for most of us, it can serve as a wallow for the truly fanatic. Thanks for posting it.
i'm a german earning my money by maintaining and repairing both electric and diesel locomotives, so this is a very interesting video for me. i really like how you americans took a far more complicated route (especially when it comes to the braking system) to achieve a locomotive that functions pretty much the same as ours here in europe.
I have actually ridden in a P42 (AMTK 176) and what I saw inside the unit matches what is on the video to a T. Also when I see this, it takes me back to that day.
Absolutely fascinating for the small boy in me who still loves big engines. But it's also professionally very useful because it's a perfect example, from a linguistics perspective, of technical discourse, including a vast amount of highly specialised vocabulary. I expect my students to consider putting it to good use, for instance as the basis for a thesis. Very many thanks for this gem.
Incredibly informative thanks - not much information out there on the technicalities of the Genesis. The Genesis is a sleek machine. Never been to America but I'd like to see it in a Superliner pulled along by a Genesis or three.
@@HNMusic13 service has been for a while now. Just look at Hiawatha and Cascades services. They use the new Chargers. New Chargers are now in service sometimes on the SWC, but it's rare.
Watched this before I went to Choo Choo U. I do remember when these first showed up. We had an engineer who kept dumping the air when he would try to move.
They really area look looking locomotive IMO, especially in the older paint schemes. However, judging from the in cab shots, it looks like visibility may be lacking some on these units. Very intresting to watch, thank you for posting!!
long video but well worth the watch. in 3 weeks i'm heading back to choo choo U to become an engineer and am doing all the pre-studying i can. thank you for posting!!
@@34jared: when I worked for CSX there was no choice, per se. They hire you as a conductor, after roughly 2 years you become eligible for engineer. If you don't take it, or don't make it through the school, you're out. I have a friend who's an Amtrak engineer. He started out in track maintenance, then conductor then engineer. It's a pretty tough job, esp. when you start out. You work on what's called the Extra Board when they call you. It's basically eat, sleep and work. That's how it is until you build up seniority, which takes about 10 years. You might only work enough to be paid the minimum, which is called the guarantee. It's a good job, but the hours suck. From what I hear, like any government job, Amtrak's management sucks big time. If you stay out of their way and obey all the rules - and there are a ton of 'em - you'll do ok.
@KutWrite It’s like that anywhere. The class 1 I work for has a one year rule, one year as a qualified conductor before you can consider going to engineer school. Then on the job training for 100 or do trips, then you are on your own. That said I do believe management sucks at any class 1 railroad! When I first started this old head said to me, “Welcome to the (anonymous company name). They spent much money on your training for the last couple of months. Now they are gonna spend the next thirty years trying to fire you. Good luck, kid.” Extra board is the same, eat, sleep, work, sleep, rinse, repeat.... Every once in a while a guy can bid for vacation vacancy of an old head goes on vacation. That’s been rare lately though as there has been huge layoffs lately. That’s all I got for now! I’m out.
@@34jared dude. didnt see this till just now.its been an amazing transition. I had no idea how little I knew as a conductor compared to how much my eyes have been opened as an engineer. Best. Decision. Ever.
@@dh-_1011 also, late reply but I totally agree with that policy. Everyone should definitely be required to be a conductor first. I worked for 9 years on the train before I went to engine school (every single craft -dining/coach attendant, conductor, etc) and it helped me immensely being exposed the RR before engine service. Also. Been qualified over a year now and LOVE IT!! : )
the p42 is one of my favorite locomotives because of it's streamline design and also some of the p42 horns sound like a steam engine is it the type of k5la or a foul.?
The ROTARY AIR BRAKE SELECTION SWITCH setting of FREIGHT rather than PASSENGER, turns off special Amtrak passenger train brake line air pressure signaling and characteristics, such as automatic gradual roll out of air line brake pressure release, that Amtrak uses on its high performance baseline 110 psi passenger car air brake system that may hamper and confuse standard freight train air brake systems operating at a 70 psi baseline pressure. Running a standard 70 psi freight train air brake system is needed for emergency on-the-road mu'd substitution of freight locomotives and mixed freight and passenger car trains. The passenger cars run at a 70 psi brake line pressure just fine with a drop in actuation speed and air reserve needed for more frequent brake releases.
That’s a whole bunch of bad info. But more than anything, freight trains do NOT operate at 70 PSI train line. They operate at 90 PSI on ALL freight lines.
@@FFred-us9tw I got that information from reading about passenger train air brakes and why a passenger train may need to run freight train air brake systems when a substituting a non passenger locomotive into the consist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_air_brake. Read down to working pressures and it will describe freight trains running 70 - 90 psi.
@@douglasengle2704 That’s a Wikipedia page and in typically fashion it’s outdated and filled with wrong information. All modern freight trains operate at 90PSI Brake Pipe pressure in what is known as DIRECT RELEASE. Most passenger railroads will operate at 110PSI in GRADUATED RELEASE. You can actually read the entire FRA CFR (Code of federal regulations) online. It’s boring but educational if you want to understand how they work better.
This great to watch while driving Genesis Locomotives TrainSim 2020 etc :), Sim has a few indicator lights wrong and/or was updated in more recent models ??! Always wondered what the spottier button was for 20:25 ,and Train Compartment Lights, next to Tracktion motor switches is?, 33:15 but that's GE for you. ( Customized design relatively low production numbers and million of dollars each ) They do not get everything perfect, first model runs etc.
Hard to believe these now are starting to become "secondary" units in favor of the newer Siemens Locomotoves, just like the old EMDs were over 25 years ago when the Genesis was introduced.... Time and technology do not wait...
Why am I watching this? I don't even own a P42... Have you noticed the "Boeing-brown" color on the dashboard? Anyway, I'm going to continue watch this in order to get my Nerd-O-meter to 100. Thanks for uploading.
Even with empty fuel tanks, you can get her to roll with just the starter batteries. IDK if that was ever used or just a sales gimmick connecting the starter batteries to the traction motors to move short distances. Neat idea though.
Are the screens TFT or CRT? It looks like a TFT-LCD but they were extremely expensive back in the early 1990s when these beauties were built so I'm thinking CRT.
They were Millions of dollars each, $3.5Mil each or so?, so at that price may have had those expensive TFF screens !? ... like my first digital watch 1978, $1200 ouch, that are now free or $0.25 walmart :) Electronics and DCS Controls etc sure have become more cost effective over the years.
As noted, if the P-42 was a dedicated passenger loco there wouldn't be a "freight" position on that switch. Using a "freight" position in emergency on a lightweight passenger train would invite a lot of injuries with that heavy duty braking function. In case Amtrack went belly up or loco replacement the P-42 would still be a useful loco for freight.
i really really really hope so, say "Amtrak" and it's an ol F40PH in Phase III grey-green-silver body with red-blue-white stripes that people think of. Britain invented the railway but I'd kill to commute on a Genesis and an F40PH or go long haul over 700 miles without a breakdown in perfect Superliner comfort. Damn Britain, we have a Victorian-era railway where even commuter DMUs struggle to avoid having the roof taken off by a 200 year old tunnel (quite literally, they had to remove the aircon from the Class 158s going to Buxton because the aircon air intake scoops would be sliced off by an ancient tunnel). Vista Lounge - wasn't that some dodgy software that came preinstalled on a white box 2008 PC along with a 30 second free trial of Office 2007?!
You know, these really weren't bad looking units when they were new, but great googly moogly they are worn out now. They also seem to have some very unique one-off type features that have to be frustrating 20 years later as orphaned, outdated, ill maintained products.
hi guys Is there in this GE P42 DC LOCOMOTIVE a small cabin behind to maneuver backwards? cus is in behind locomotive door I guess the back door and used. to access the other locomotive that is hitched. because locomotive in multiple unit thank for information; MAY BE NOT
Definitely an interesting video. I have to wonder who exactly the target audience for this video was supposed to be. The video seems to be aimed at Amtrak locomotive engineers, but there's a lot of "well duh" information in it that an engineer would already know, as well as lots of technical info that an engineer would never need to know.
+Locomotive450 This was made by the same sort of Federal idiots who make army training films. Anyone who has been in the army will instantly recognize this. By the way, whoever designed the interior of the locomotive sure likes the color brown. As I said, idiots.
These loco’s came with David Clark headset stations set up for three seating positions. They have long since been disconnected but most loco’s still have these stations in them.
Damian De lmao...I mean, you're not wrong. On a seriously note, finding the manual in PDF is going to be tough. It's most likely not shared outside higher up personal at Amtrak due to security.
Amtrak does still have a vision benefit. At an average employee cost to Amtrak of over $100K, it would take quite a "pay cut" to make them even close to breakeven. czcams.com/video/fwjwePe-HmA/video.html
Because the old-time glasses look goofy today. I see you didn't watch the "Why are trains so expensive?" video I linked. On average, Amtrak pays over $100K for every employee on the gravy train...I mean...payroll. You may not like hearing that, especially while living in Taxachusetts, but it's the truth. Only Amtrak could charge $12 for a cheeseburger, and lose money while doing it. Amtrak is a government union giveaway to buy votes, not a business. If it was a business, it would have shut down long ago. Here's another educational video for you to ignore: czcams.com/video/mbEfzuCLoAQ/video.html
Great video and info! But the narrator's voice and the way he whistles his S' stresses me out. I could turn the volume down but then I would have no idea about what is said. So, I'm stopping at 40:57. I apologize for my negative statement!
João Felipe Oliveira Alves e Silva A control area on a GE locomotive is a compartment where electrical equipment is located. Most GE units have CA1 through CA9.
Hey guys, I found this VHS at a small train gathering under a church for $1. Thanks to Peter for getting this digital (I now have my own means, but did not at the time). If anyone wants I can also scan a P42DC Operators Troubleshooting Guide.
Please do. That would be a great read.
drive.google.com/file/d/0B6xke8CjWeEuT0VwdlY4TG5sR28/view?usp=sharing
Oh VHS ! Thanks, I now understand the relatively poor quality of this video. It's interesting, though, but could have been much better with an engineer actually acting the different components and switches, and explaining them, than an added voice (think of a plane cockpit visit)
Thanks for sharing !
Why is there only 33 pages out of like 150?
Instead of printing them I recommend doing it as a downloadable PDF file which the downloaded can print when he or she wants.
Nice catch!
Cheers
I just spent an hour watching a video for a locomotive i will never operate and yet no regrets.
Right? If i need to operate a P42, this video omitted one key detail, where the hell is the entire crew? The LSA is even more qualified to operate these than i.
I wont operate it either, only et44ac, es44ac, es40dc, cw44ac, sd70ac, etc
A **RETIRED** UPRR "Operator," Excuse ME!!! Let me hock out & Chock OUT my CUD of SKOAL!!! DAMMIT!!!!!!!! DONE!!!!!!!!
I, on the JOB, the J-O-B, have OPERATED...uh. Full STOP!!! Have ***RUN*** these units FIVE TIMES, SEE?!?
Have Also RUN--Not "OPERATED" Nor have "DRIVEN," as I am from the UNITED STATES of the AMERICA...to REPEAT to WORLD, but also to those in **THIS** NATION who need CLARIFACATION, I have indeed *RUN* every AMTRAK Locomotive currently in service (excluding all ELECTRIC UNITS Currently in service), and am proud of this fact!!!
You just watch the video about a locomotive they getting ready to retire now LOL but it is interesting to see it explain brand new back in the day...
My dad has a whole box of these somewhere, I watched them all the time as a kid. I can still remember most of the HEP and Cooling system ones.
Please find a way to digitize them and put them up here on CZcams!
The video bring back memories. In the late 70's I worked for Amtrak in Chicago, as a journeyman machinist with the EMD F-40 some sdp-40's and the Brighton park French version turboliners. Also a once in a blue moon a P-30ph from Louisiana dropped by the shop. Good old days
Very interesting
Phenomenal and beautiful K5LA on this P42DC (1). 15:18, 15:36 & 23:57.
The P42DC is my favorite Amtrak locomotive
coolleo149 Smith County, Texas mine is f59 and p42
The most powerful in Amtrak inventory.
Yes!! Is so much better than the Siemens SC-44
@@oldspiceaviation143 yeah for as frustrating as they can be those Chargers can get up and go!!
What about the P40DC?
This is a remarkable video to have posted for rail fans, especially the hard-core cab ride types. While the detail is way beyond comprehensible for most of us, it can serve as a wallow for the truly fanatic. Thanks for posting it.
As an Amtrak passenger, I think this is a really interesting video. It's amazing how much multitasking the engineers have to do!
Great video! A rare look inside the P42. As a former locomotive mechanic, I give this video two thumbs up.
That guy looks like Napoleon Dynamites brother.
i'm a german earning my money by maintaining and repairing both electric and diesel locomotives, so this is a very interesting video for me. i really like how you americans took a far more complicated route (especially when it comes to the braking system) to achieve a locomotive that functions pretty much the same as ours here in europe.
It's a German braking system. See the Knorr-Bremse logo on the brake handle module.
I have actually ridden in a P42 (AMTK 176) and what I saw inside the unit matches what is on the video to a T. Also when I see this, it takes me back to that day.
Absolutely fascinating for the small boy in me who still loves big engines. But it's also professionally very useful because it's a perfect example, from a linguistics perspective, of technical discourse, including a vast amount of highly specialised vocabulary. I expect my students to consider putting it to good use, for instance as the basis for a thesis. Very many thanks for this gem.
Incredibly informative thanks - not much information out there on the technicalities of the Genesis. The Genesis is a sleek machine. Never been to America but I'd like to see it in a Superliner pulled along by a Genesis or three.
The sad thing is at this point, the P42s have been in service longer than the F40s were, and the P42s still arent replaced yet
They will be, starting in 2021-24.
The first ALC-42 has been delivered to amtrak, introduction to service pending.
@@HNMusic13 service has been for a while now. Just look at Hiawatha and Cascades services. They use the new Chargers. New Chargers are now in service sometimes on the SWC, but it's rare.
This made me want to be a locomotive engineer even more
Watched this before I went to Choo Choo U. I do remember when these first showed up. We had an engineer who kept dumping the air when he would try to move.
I remember watching this for amtrak when i was in engine school at choo choo high in wilmington. Good times
Helps listening comfort and legibility to set speed at 1.25! Normal speed exaggerates narrations tiring word dragging annunciation.
Thank you so much for uploading this.
And in a couple of years these will be replaced by the Siemens Charger on long distance routes. Time flies.
And god help you america p42s are the "bomb"chargers are ugly junk!
Wow! This locomotive uses four computers just to operate a horn. Wow!
I wonder if there is one available for the new Siemens Chargers.
Thank you Peter.
That K5LA though.......
PAYDIRT! I've been looking for videos on this locomotive as I plan on going to work for Amtrak as an engineer next year. This is most awesome.
yomyovi well...what do you do for work? Did you join Amtrak?
Did you get the job?
yomyovi did you get it
Did you get the job?
Get the job you did?
They really area look looking locomotive IMO, especially in the older paint schemes. However, judging from the in cab shots, it looks like visibility may be lacking some on these units. Very intresting to watch, thank you for posting!!
very good documentary
Thanks for posting this. I happen to own a fucntioning P4DC locomotive as family heirloom, but I wasn't sure about any of its parts.
I love trains so when I have a road trip I watch this
I can only imagine what would happen to Amtrak without these..
ALL the DASh 8s!
+praise gaben yaas
praise gaben Yreap.
I wouldn't necessarily call it TOO poor quality. It actually looks better than any VHS's do on my 4k tv.
KINDA COOL HOW THEY WORK
long video but well worth the watch. in 3 weeks i'm heading back to choo choo U to become an engineer and am doing all the pre-studying i can. thank you for posting!!
I'd be interested in hearing from you on engineer v. conductor job choice.
@@34jared: when I worked for CSX there was no choice, per se. They hire you as a conductor, after roughly 2 years you become eligible for engineer. If you don't take it, or don't make it through the school, you're out.
I have a friend who's an Amtrak engineer. He started out in track maintenance, then conductor then engineer.
It's a pretty tough job, esp. when you start out. You work on what's called the Extra Board when they call you. It's basically eat, sleep and work.
That's how it is until you build up seniority, which takes about 10 years. You might only work enough to be paid the minimum, which is called the guarantee.
It's a good job, but the hours suck. From what I hear, like any government job, Amtrak's management sucks big time. If you stay out of their way and obey all the rules - and there are a ton of 'em - you'll do ok.
@KutWrite It’s like that anywhere. The class 1 I work for has a one year rule, one year as a qualified conductor before you can consider going to engineer school. Then on the job training for 100 or do trips, then you are on your own.
That said I do believe management sucks at any class 1 railroad! When I first started this old head said to me, “Welcome to the (anonymous company name). They spent much money on your training for the last couple of months. Now they are gonna spend the next thirty years trying to fire you. Good luck, kid.”
Extra board is the same, eat, sleep, work, sleep, rinse, repeat.... Every once in a while a guy can bid for vacation vacancy of an old head goes on vacation. That’s been rare lately though as there has been huge layoffs lately.
That’s all I got for now!
I’m out.
@@34jared dude. didnt see this till just now.its been an amazing transition. I had no idea how little I knew as a conductor compared to how much my eyes have been opened as an engineer. Best. Decision. Ever.
@@dh-_1011 also, late reply but I totally agree with that policy. Everyone should definitely be required to be a conductor first. I worked for 9 years on the train before I went to engine school (every single craft -dining/coach attendant, conductor, etc) and it helped me immensely being exposed the RR before engine service. Also. Been qualified over a year now and LOVE IT!! : )
0:58 Wow, survival? Things were rough for Amtrak even back then.
Amtrack has always been a loser. If it was a private enterprise, it would have ceased operation long ago.
@@josephjames259 You are a certified moron.
@@erikgustafson1410 I stated a fact. You didn’t.
Sucks that these are being slowly phased out now but I am also happy to see a new era of locomotives beginning with the new Siemens Chargers.
Nice video, I subbed your channel.
Awesome documentary! I want to drive one of those!
This isn't Europe, we 'operate' the loco here.
Generic Electric strikes again!
the p42 is one of my favorite locomotives because of it's streamline design and also some of the p42 horns sound like a steam engine is it the type of k5la or a foul.?
Awesome I love the Amtrak P42
geesh, I think I'll go learn how to fly the space shuttle. I think this loco is a bit beyond me.
The ROTARY AIR BRAKE SELECTION SWITCH setting of FREIGHT rather than PASSENGER, turns off special Amtrak passenger train brake line air pressure signaling and characteristics, such as automatic gradual roll out of air line brake pressure release, that Amtrak uses on its high performance baseline 110 psi passenger car air brake system that may hamper and confuse standard freight train air brake systems operating at a 70 psi baseline pressure. Running a standard 70 psi freight train air brake system is needed for emergency on-the-road mu'd substitution of freight locomotives and mixed freight and passenger car trains. The passenger cars run at a 70 psi brake line pressure just fine with a drop in actuation speed and air reserve needed for more frequent brake releases.
That’s a whole bunch of bad info. But more than anything, freight trains do NOT operate at 70 PSI train line. They operate at 90 PSI on ALL freight lines.
@@FFred-us9tw I got that information from reading about passenger train air brakes and why a passenger train may need to run freight train air brake systems when a substituting a non passenger locomotive into the consist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_air_brake. Read down to working pressures and it will describe freight trains running 70 - 90 psi.
@@douglasengle2704 That’s a Wikipedia page and in typically fashion it’s outdated and filled with wrong information. All modern freight trains operate at 90PSI Brake Pipe pressure in what is known as DIRECT RELEASE. Most passenger railroads will operate at 110PSI in GRADUATED RELEASE. You can actually read the entire FRA CFR (Code of federal regulations) online. It’s boring but educational if you want to understand how they work better.
THIS IS NEAT
Is this video shown in the new recruits' training courses?
Anyone know what devices use 74 VDC with a NEMA connector? Some kind of P42/Amtrak specific device?
This great to watch while driving Genesis Locomotives TrainSim 2020 etc :), Sim has a few indicator lights wrong and/or was updated in more recent models ??! Always wondered what the spottier button was for 20:25 ,and Train Compartment Lights, next to Tracktion motor switches is?, 33:15 but that's GE for you. ( Customized design relatively low production numbers and million of dollars each ) They do not get everything perfect, first model runs etc.
Hard to believe these now are starting to become "secondary" units in favor of the newer Siemens Locomotoves, just like the old EMDs were over 25 years ago when the Genesis was introduced.... Time and technology do not wait...
Meanwhile VIA still runs the F40PH’s, and with the new Charger’s, are freeing the F40’s to run long distance exclusively.
Why am I watching this? I don't even own a P42...
Have you noticed the "Boeing-brown" color on the dashboard?
Anyway, I'm going to continue watch this in order to get my Nerd-O-meter to 100. Thanks for uploading.
I have always wanted to steal a P42, and now I know how! Thanks! ......no not really lol
Even with empty fuel tanks, you can get her to roll with just the starter batteries. IDK if that was ever used or just a sales gimmick connecting the starter batteries to the traction motors to move short distances. Neat idea though.
Thanks for the informative video! So now, where do I buy one?
I want one in mint green, metalic paint, with a racing stripe on each side!!
Call up GE lol
They didn't change much on the dash 9..almost identical, even on the es4400's
Man those big 80's glasses 🤣
Does anybody know where to find an Amtrak P42 Operating Manual online?
I found what is claomed to be a downloadable copy here cloud1.pw/1/download1.php?file=ge+p42+manual
this is my favorite locomotive!
Same
Same
Agreed!
That’s because you never had to run one.
Are all the big cargo locomotives diesel or hybrids? How many cylinders are in one engine and what's the displacement in liters?
the p42dc locomotive series has 16 cylinders and 4,250 horsepower
Diesel electric
this looks like the GE Dash-9 cab from MSTS
I thought there was another smal cabin behind. the locomotive for the back maneuver. or maybe not on this type of GE P42DC locomotive
Before rebuild, the P40DCs had it.
Are the screens TFT or CRT? It looks like a TFT-LCD but they were extremely expensive back in the early 1990s when these beauties were built so I'm thinking CRT.
They were Millions of dollars each, $3.5Mil each or so?, so at that price may have had those expensive TFF screens !? ... like my first digital watch 1978, $1200 ouch, that are now free or $0.25 walmart :) Electronics and DCS Controls etc sure have become more cost effective over the years.
what if i need to make a emergency stop and the main switch is set on frst while i am hauling passengers is it to make a smoother ride ?
As noted, if the P-42 was a dedicated passenger loco there wouldn't be a "freight" position on that switch. Using a "freight" position in emergency on a lightweight passenger train would invite a lot of injuries with that heavy duty braking function. In case Amtrack went belly up or loco replacement the P-42 would still be a useful loco for freight.
this has to be a very old video. doug sizemore is my 1st cousin, and i know he is now 78 yrs old and retired; living in arizona.
From the 90's?
Alphonso Zorro YES 1990’s
Wood working
Did they do this for the F40PH?
i really really really hope so, say "Amtrak" and it's an ol F40PH in Phase III grey-green-silver body with red-blue-white stripes that people think of. Britain invented the railway but I'd kill to commute on a Genesis and an F40PH or go long haul over 700 miles without a breakdown in perfect Superliner comfort. Damn Britain, we have a Victorian-era railway where even commuter DMUs struggle to avoid having the roof taken off by a 200 year old tunnel (quite literally, they had to remove the aircon from the Class 158s going to Buxton because the aircon air intake scoops would be sliced off by an ancient tunnel). Vista Lounge - wasn't that some dodgy software that came preinstalled on a white box 2008 PC along with a 30 second free trial of Office 2007?!
I never knew that these large locomotives can run a short distance on just battery power. Can freights also do this?
If the railroad that owns the Loco ordered the JOG feature, then yes.
You know, these really weren't bad looking units when they were new, but great googly moogly they are worn out now. They also seem to have some very unique one-off type features that have to be frustrating 20 years later as orphaned, outdated, ill maintained products.
I once read someone's statement that the P-40/42 cabs must have been engineered by someone with tunnel vision. Look at the windshield area.
Yeah but all that amazing grade school graffiti in the bathrooms for 20 years? You can't beat that.
hi guys Is there in this GE P42 DC LOCOMOTIVE a small cabin behind to maneuver backwards? cus is in behind locomotive door I guess the back door and used. to access the other locomotive that is hitched. because locomotive in multiple unit thank for information; MAY BE NOT
In a way. There's multiple engine areas and yes, you can pretty safely shove from the rear area. Though its very loud. : )
This message is for Erik Gustafson. I have a paper back operating manual for P42 The Genesis copyright 1996,mint condition.
Timothy Barr Might I ask where you obtained such a manual?
+ThePlutoniumGamer you'll be surprised what you'll find on Ebay
Interesting, is it for sale,?
Definitely an interesting video. I have to wonder who exactly the target audience for this video was supposed to be. The video seems to be aimed at Amtrak locomotive engineers, but there's a lot of "well duh" information in it that an engineer would already know, as well as lots of technical info that an engineer would never need to know.
+Andrew Armstrong This is way beyond their ability to absorb. Besides, Congress is in the pockets of the freight haulers.
+Locomotive450 This was made by the same sort of Federal idiots who make army training films. Anyone who has been in the army will instantly recognize this. By the way, whoever designed the interior of the locomotive sure likes the color brown. As I said, idiots.
+New Yakisoba Far better than that gross green EMD loved to use so much.
Ah,General Electric, I think GE only does that to keep heat out.
Andrew Armstrong Exactly.
the train cab looks identical to the Ac4400w cab freight train companies have but different
year video?
was this a mandatory video Amtrak engineers converting from f40s to genesis had to watch?
is it me or does that headset station say david clark on it
These loco’s came with David Clark headset stations set up for three seating positions. They have long since been disconnected but most loco’s still have these stations in them.
Those serial killer glasses doe.
well now I just want to buy a retired P42 when they start to leave the roster, just to go over this video in the real P42 cab!
Why are some controls located in silly places like under the floor?
The horn sequencer and radio?
Cause those don't get used often. Those switches gotta go somewhere : )
I want to drive Amtrak's P42s when I grow up, but I want to have a family and kids also. Is this possible?
Of course, why wouldn't it be? Many if not most engineers I know have families. They just need to be very understanding.
Gee, I wonder if they could have made operating this engine just a little more complicated?
Now i am P42 Certified👍😂
Now I know how to operate my HO scale two Amtrak P42 engines.
Whoever built it must have had microscopic fingers.
Jeez, were they ever that clean??
yes
Amtrakeng Only when they were factory new. LMAO
Hello Guys!
I search the "GE P42 operating manual" as PDF
I hope someone can help me.
Thanks ;)
I think all the relevant documentation (including the operating manual) should come with your locomotive. Please check the inside of the packaging.
Damian De lmao...I mean, you're not wrong.
On a seriously note, finding the manual in PDF is going to be tough. It's most likely not shared outside higher up personal at Amtrak due to security.
Any other operating manual
Sure is a lot better than what " they're " buying now or should I say Us ?
Funny, this is for already trained engineers? Reminds me of engine school to be honest
Was there a special Amtrak employee eyeglasses store? :-)
Amtrak does still have a vision benefit. At an average employee cost to Amtrak of over $100K, it would take quite a "pay cut" to make them even close to breakeven. czcams.com/video/fwjwePe-HmA/video.html
Because the old-time glasses look goofy today.
I see you didn't watch the "Why are trains so expensive?" video I linked.
On average, Amtrak pays over $100K for every employee on the gravy train...I mean...payroll. You may not like hearing that, especially while living in Taxachusetts, but it's the truth. Only Amtrak could charge $12 for a cheeseburger, and lose money while doing it.
Amtrak is a government union giveaway to buy votes, not a business. If it was a business, it would have shut down long ago.
Here's another educational video for you to ignore: czcams.com/video/mbEfzuCLoAQ/video.html
Ah, read some of your foaming-at-the-mouth lefty screeds on Disqus. Have a nice life, you're blocked.
I thought Bill Clinton was the one who signed that NAFTA thing.
Ah yes, corporate stock footage, just what i want
No discussion of toilet controls?
Flip up seat, piss or poop, flip seat down.
Yeah VIA was smart and rebuilt there F40s
+Ham549 VIA?
+Big T long distance Canadian version of Amtrak. Just type in VIA RAIL 640... and you will see the rebuilt F40ph's.
More like VIA FAIL. Viva La Amtrak!
Ask almost anyone who works with locomotives and they will tell you the F40s are better.
Ham549 I disagree.
When metronorth got these engines?????
1995-98
Now I know why a friend’s dad retired as an engineer a millionaire
4:33 why does he kinda sounds like SwaggerSouls
Great video and info! But the narrator's voice and the way he whistles his S' stresses me out. I could turn the volume down but then I would have no idea about what is said. So, I'm stopping at 40:57. I apologize for my negative statement!
+Bill Greek hohoho!!!!!! merry christmas!!!!!
and I really love the F59PHI locomotive better than the P40 and P42DC locomotives.
Great video! Now I know specifically why the F40PH was discontinued. P42s still aren't as good looking as the F40s.
Complicated starting system on GE locos.
Nobody could steal them, who’s got the time?
What the heck is a Control Area?!
:-(
João Felipe Oliveira Alves e Silva
on the older locomotives we called it the engineers area, throttle, air brake controls etc..
João Felipe Oliveira Alves e Silva A control area on a GE locomotive is a compartment where electrical equipment is located. Most GE units have CA1 through CA9.
Do these locomotives not have a bathroom?
They can go through the locomotive and into one of the passenger cars that houses a bathroom.
Yes, they all do. The door behind the engineer seat goes down two steps and there’s a door on your right that opens to a toilet comport.
But nothing get cheaper, never. :)))
7:46 Clearly this is a Kosher train!.
I get it... the shape of the independent lever! Circumcised!
*snip* *snip*
Amtrak p40s were better in the phase 3 strobes and the first generation k5s Amtrak screwed them all up
craig canterbury agreed!
this is not my favorite locomotive. I like the F40PH locomotive better.
Anthony Taylor Network The F40PH engines are nice, but I like the AMD-103 engines.
Me too, I will always be a fan of the f40ph, takes me back to being a kid and watching the Empire Builder come into Lacrosse.
Other then their real ugliness, they sound like a pretty decent unit to operate.