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Sting - I Burn For You âą Sting - I burn for you...
The best thing about Rick is that he REALLY listens to people talking and to the music itself. He's not in his own world. He's engaged and active in the conversation and music at such a visceral level. Brilliant musician!!
He did finish Her sentence, But 2 greats on stage...Y not?
Heâs a great teacher. Thatâs got to be a great quality for a producer. Like George Martin was for the Beatles.
He's mastered the art of being present and in the moment. He's old enough and smart enough to know that it's not all about him. That's an excellent quality to possess as a person.
@@robertakerman3570 She finished his thoughts a few times too! I think the point was that it's a very collaborative conversation. Everyone interrupts each other sometimes, and it can even be a helpful/natural part of communication.
Rick really knows .....Hendrix did this as well as all the greats.
The happiest life is one of collaboration. Whether itâs friends, family, or fellow musicians it is still individuals who bring out the best qualities of the other whilst working together. Two of my favorite individual channels joining together is a dream. Much love to both! Thank you.
Couldn't agree with you more. Their channels are amazing! I hope they do many more of these in the future.
@@MrWolfriver Agreed
These are two of the most thoughtful, helpful, and giving people on any channel!
Indeed
Love, Love Rick and Mary together!! I am a mechanic by trade and a musician by hobby. Rick's series "What makes this song great", is like a mechanic taking something apart to see how it works: What makes it tick. And Mary's honesty, sincerity ,and love of music is always out front. Hope to see more videos of you two!
Well said! (Fellow wrencher here)
Could not agree more!
Iâm a dentist btwâŠa tooth mechanic=D
The first ten seconds hit on something that takes most songwriters a lifetime to discover. I'm truly blessed to be growing up with CZcamsrs like these two as mentors.
"Beauty and the Beato."
Super advice from Rick.
The friendship and mutual admiration on display here is heartwarming. Whenever I see the two of them together on the thumbnail I always click. Life is fleeting and true friendships should be treasured and well kept.
The challenge is being able to find the balance between under-thinking and over-thinking your composition and/or lyrics. Finding that point is where the magic lies. This is a great video! Thanks!
I think purpose is also a very important factor when writing songs. Overthinking things is as risky and potentially harmful to the music as not taking enough time to develop it. So, being clear about what motivates you to write a given song can help you keep that balance. Thanks for the video!
The only song I ever sang as I walked out of the theater, after hearing it for the first time, was "Let's do the Time Warp again". An absolute classic, that.
I feel like Iâm right there. Big Spender fan. She is just as dynamic as Rick in her own way. Thank you.
Way back in my youth, I played bass in a garage band. I'm not a great player, but I've always thought that I was an adequate bass player. When I was learning a new song that I was going to sing, I always practiced the vocal part alone with just me on bass. Vocal melody and bass line. I still hear bass and voice when I listen.
I could listen to you and Rick all day. You have such a great presence together. Your operator video is one of the best I have ever seen. I love that format where you break down a song with your insight. Mary, thank you for what you do. Your videos are amongst the first I look to when I want a companion in my day.
Love seeing you with one of your favorite people. Just watching you take it all in is great for us to be there with you. Thanks for inviting us in.
Tommy Immanuel is so gifted in choosing great songs to cover and in how he approaches the covers to express their melodies as the human voice might (another great Beato interview). Then add his improvisational genius⊠đ€Ż
Hereâs my take. The simple stuff in music holds the emotion (for example the I IV V chords in country music). The complex stuff holds the interest. Great music is made from the dance between the two.
Tory Slusher
It is truly a delight to listen to Mary and Rick together⊠I think my music comprehension goes up I just listening to these videos! Thank you both!
So awesome to see you two together. After the kind words you had for each other, it's great to see you both together and collaborating. Two of my favorite CZcamsrs.
Discussion of the process and decisions of songwriting is absolute gold. You're both great to begin with but this is exceptional. I would love to see future episodes about the writing of a song from start to finish, with clips as new ideas and edits arise. Bravo bravo!
hey, great idea! I'm actually doing something like that in a FB group, if you're interested in a grassroots connection :) obviously, not as cool as these guys, but would love to meet you there!
Check out the podcast Sodajerker on Songwriting, lots of interviews with well known songwriters, focused on the creative process
@@fuglsnef so glad to see another listener here!
I could easily watch/ listen to you two talk about this for hours and hours and never get bored, great video, thanks!
Iâm thrilled to see that youâre in Atlanta, while regretting that Iâm no longer in the area. If youâre performing or doing meet-and-greets while in the States please put a link to your schedule. Iâm learning all I can about guitar and music theory after subscribing to your and Rickâs channels.
Just wonderful to see you guys together.
Thanks a lot for your videos
Just saw your collaboration with Rick on "Operator (That's Not the Way It Feels)", I love both of your work and you're awesome together, keep it coming!
This is an awesome vid, really informative and helpful info in here. Sometimes we just need to sit back and listen to advice, especially these two! Rick has so much experience and great knowledge in music, Mary has developed her own great style of playing and is fast developing into a really great musician. yep this vid made me smile, and most importantly listen to the advice! :)
Love to listen to the 2 of you discuss playing, writing, anything really. Listening to the discussion of the various songs and compositions made me long to hear you consider the music of Colin Hay. My wife and I recently had the opportunity to attend a concert he played, just him, 4 acoustic guitars and a microphone. He played, spoke and sang for over 2 hours and was extraordinarily entertaining. His musicianship is phenomenal and I never fail to come away from listening to him without experiencing something new each time. Thanks again!
A really interesting conversation. Very relaxed, informative and inspiring discussion . Thanks.
Great wisdom. We're always looking for pearls of wisdom to elevate our work. Thanks Rick and Mary, cheers to both of you.
my 2 favorite music youtubers together .... what a great day, what a great video (can't wait to see it in full length)
ditto!!!!!
two of my favorites!. Rick, your explanation of this is brilliant.
Let me start by saying I have the utmost respect for both of you, and am a regular viewer of your two channels; one day I may even get around to subscribing, and, ahem, sharing my compositions... I'm all for experimentation and pushing the envelope when it comes to songwriting, but, more often than not, simplicity wins out over complexity when it comes to writing hits. McCartney's Yesterday, now overly familiar, of course, is a beautiful melody over an effective but pretty orthodox chord progression. Sting, quoted in your conversation, can afford to be "avant garde" and experimental now, if he so chooses, but the songs that made him rich and famous have simple tunes, often with correspondingly simple backing: Every Breath You Take and Fields Of Barley, for instance. That's not to denigrate them; far from it. But they prove that you don't have to go out of your way to play finger-challenging jazzer chords in order for a song to be worthy of respect (and I speak as a huge Joni Mitchell fan). Neil Young is another favourite artist of mine, and two of his greatest albums, After The Gold Rush and Harvest, are made up of simple but hugely resonant songs. Just sayin'...
I just finished watching you and Rick Beato breaking down Jim Croce's song "Operator". Wonderful video! I love when you and Rick get together to discuss music. I was very interested to hear your views on the lyrics. I hope you collaborate with him on future videos.
As primarily a writer of the written word for most of my life and now focusing on guitar, I really relate to how difficult it often is to make things seem easy. Itâs an axiom in writing that the easiest passages to read, and the most flowing , often require the most work. Also, I could listen to you and Rick Beato talking about music all day.
So cool seeing both of y'all together - y'all add so much to the world of music.
I've always written with just a bass line and a melody but found it hard to produce around it because it already stood on it's own. There's production and there's composition - being able to make the right call in putting them together (all by yourself) is a rare gift... super rare.
Which is why collaboration is so empowering. As talented as John Lennon was, he was just one part of a once in a lifetime quartet. Iâve never met a musician who writes in a vacuum. Mozart was an anomaly the rest of us mere mortals can only gawk at. đ
Fascinating to listen to your "shop talk" with the always good Mr. Beato. Thanks
Thank you, Mary, for showing this conversation with Rick.
A _very_ important suggestion that he brought up was:
"Play the melody and the bass line together and it should sound complete."
That is one of the techniques I was taught in composition (and analysis also).
Whether it be a string quartet, a chorale, a concerto or symphony.
A song can also benefit from this very technique. Why not!
Cheers!
ikr I seriously could not believe he said it so blunt like that... it would be the ultimate joke but I'm convinced it's real
*_E X C E L L E N T_* conversation, Mary. You two work well together. You willingly listen to Rick and lead him to teach what he's sharing here, rather than just sharing here what he teaches . . . not to put too fine a point on it. I loved this video. Bookmarked it. Learned from it.
Super cool to see you both together! Love it. Huge respect for both of you đ
Two brilliant, passionate, likable musicians discussing their craft. đ€
So exciting to hear this!!!! Thanks for thinking about us little people â€â€â€â€
One can view it all as a burden of "so much hard work to do" or embrace the pluspoint of endless possibilities of creation offered in musical endeavor. Also, I love Mary's validation of the accessibility of a song. To me that is a key aspect to embrace. Art is the quality of communication. An accessible song may even be considered to be too simple, but it will likely communicate and be memorable.
Glenn Frey talks in an interview about living upstairs over Jackson Browne before either of them were known as songwriters, listening to him play the first verse of a new song twenty times, then the chorus twenty times, etc. It was instructive to me as to how these songs that we sing along to as we drive down the highway of life take work. LOTS of work... Really enjoyed this video!
I am so glad to see you 2 chatting. Love it
This is just epically great advice. I'm working on a song right now, and this bass/melody advice is a massive help for me at the stage I'm at with the tune.
Two of my favorite artists together†I was hoping you do more with the Mary Rick and you have so thatâs just awesome! Enjoy this video Mucho!â€
a treat to see you guys chat about songwriting! I know I'd love to run ideas by Rick just like that :) the part about the bass line and the melody together is absolute gold. And of course we should suspend and add-nine all, well, OK, most of those chords ;)
A fascinating conversation.
I was listening to Cortez the Killer last night and it's a song where, for me, great imaginative leaps happen. It is crafted but I'm not sure that this is what makes it great: almost as if taking a risk is the significant option rather than adhering to a template.
One of my favourite songs is Rafferty's Steamboat Row and that's a fromtheheartdirecttotheheart kind of thing. What I would say is that there are other roads to a great song that aren't necessarily about complexity.
The Sting album is excellent.
It makes me so happy to see the two of you together
He is a true teacher at heart. He is constantly imparting his knowledge and finds joy when that knowledge is reflected back to him through the insights and music of others. That feeling is a drug in and of itself.
The look of admiration in her eyes! hahaha Rick's really an amazing guy, excelent musician, have a great leveled head on his shoulder... Amazing to see you two together!
So interesting to hear you both chat. A great double act....
This was the perfect blend of two of my favorite CZcams channels. Incredible advice for songwriters thank you both and thank you Mary for bringing Rick to anyone who hasn't followed him yet.
As a songwriter, this was very illuminating! Esp. the section on being different, making the song interesting and unique, like "Taking it to the Streets"
When a song is a pure expression from the human heart or soul , when you connect via the silver cord if you like to ne metaphysical and the energy flows through you then it doesn`t matter what combination of unique chords or alternate tunings , or key changes you use or don`t use
None of this matters because a song written from the heart or soul will always connect and touch people over a clever collection of "unique" chord progressions, key changes and alternate tunings
Great songs are from the soul and heart
You want to write one you need to learn to listen and connect
Some people are simply better at this than others
A great song writer is simply a conduit for this energy , the song comes to them from making this connection not how many unique chord combinations they know or if they can surprise Sting within 8 bars
Yes agree with alot of what Rick says, but I'm not sure Bob Dylan writes like that. I heard he was amazed at how long Leonard Cohen took to write his songs
Nah, it's not really that mystical.
It's science. Humans respond to strong Rhythm, Melody, and harmonies containing combinations of predictability and unpredictability. Music is a craft. Inspiration comes but it rarely gives you the whole thing every time. It gives you enough to start. Then you have to finish.
On top of that, you have to work even to feed the raw materials which your subconscious can then rework and furnish back to you as " magical inspiration," and then after the inspiration you must work to be able to get your hands / voice to perform it and record it.
Again, it is a craft. If you're doing it right.
A nice trick, I think, for song writers is to look at a set of piano reductions of the Bach chorales. When I was in music school (a half a century ago) analyzing the chorales, I decided not to look at the voice leading or use Roman numeral analysis, but to look at just the names of the chords. So after I did a few chorales, I decided to play these chord progressions on the guitar because they looked kind of interesting. The results were quite exciting. Bach's inventiveness in his choice of harmonies might be good stuff for song writers.
Awesome, Mary and Rick in studio. đ
Nice to see those two together! A real treat!
Amazing! Thanks for this video!
This is great! Thank you, and Rick, too- love his educational/commentary. Especially like the bass/melody advice. I've been doing it on the advice of Arnold Schoenberg's books, but I forget. And whenever I do, inevitably I find something sounds unsatisfactory, play the bass and melody and end up working there for a long time.
After Rick mention using only bass and melody I went in to the studio and played the recorded bass of a song with no melody yet. Instantly a melody came to mind. Very helpful. Thanks.
Great advice! Enjoyed it! Love you all and your channels! Take Care!
Another gem from two of my biggest CZcams mentors! A real wake up call about what it takes to really be a great songwriter.. it's just not about catchy lyrics but the whole musical landscape behind it as well.. awesome advice and insight! I would love you guys to do a long Think Tank Workshop and break down a lot of Jimmy pages approach and how he constructs melodies and all of that stuff. From something like Since I've Been Loving You all the way up to Achilles Last Stand and of course Stairway to Heaven would really love to get both of your insights on the Wizardry of Pagey. That would be epic! BTW happy holidays to all! Peace, Bob M.
you two should do a Podcast! I would listen to every Episode. the way you both talk about music really does inspire me
Thx! I luv me some Rick; cool that you guys got together to chat!
Love you Mary and love Rick. Great conversation.
Really great advice!! Workshop your songs. I will definitely do that one.
You can watching the interplay between you both that you really loved each others company and insight. As always Rick, If I need a music solution to my problems, I always search through your Vlogs for the answer. Please work with Mary again someday Rick. She has an inate gift in the music industry.
Two of my favorite CZcamsrs together. Fantastic.
I'm already subscribed to you, Mary, but it's really cool to see you with Rick Beato. Love collabs between talented folks.
Rick is so intelligent. It's easy to overlook that as he's talking about music stuff which we don't usually associate with smarts!
I have watched a couple of Ms. Spender's videos, but this one stands out because actually talking to someone makes her videos better
I feel like putting together a melody and baseline is one of the easiest aspects of playing guitar. That concept also solidified for me while learning hand independence on piano where you play a baseline with your right hand and a melody with your left. On guitar it's also easy to learn on an easy song like simple man, where it just goes from C to G to A, so you're strumming C,G and A with your thumb while your other fingers are tickling away the other strings.
It's very enjoyable to be able to eavesdrop on two professionals who respect each other. I probably wouldn't know about Mary if Rick hadn't recommended her in one of his videos, so I know he respects her talent.
My current obsession in terms of (to me) complex composition with shifting time signatures is "In From Japan" by Madison Cunningham. I'm still trying to pick out the chord changes by ear before resorting to finding online chord charts. And yes, she plays it live with all the nuance and dynamics and not the least sign of visible effort. Just stunning.
What a wonderful, educational video!
Love to see this so much. Can watch you two hanging out all day
I am so, so envious that you managed to sit down with this incredible producer. I greedily absorb his listening experiences and his breakdowns. I adore just what a joyous listener he is, and how much he hears in music I've listened to for 30 years and never heard as deeply as he has. I vainly wish that he would listen to my music the same way-not because I'm anywhere near as great as the names dropped in this conversation, but just because he would be such a GENEROUS listener, and teach me so much about my own sound and the things I'm doing.
Do I want to sell a million albums? Sure, it'd be nice. But if I sell even 10 copies out of my backpack, if I could give one copy to Rick, that would be like half a million sales all unto itself.
The version of I Burn for You from his live album Bring on the Night may be my favorite song ever. Fantastic performance.
what a Masterclass - wait....am i going to be charged for listening to all these insights!!! thank you both for sharing with the rest of us mortals :) Luv you both...muster ON!
By chance I just got Shania Twayne's 'You're Still The One' in my head AND IN MY HEART. The chord progressions is dead simple. Verse: I-I-IV-V, chorus I-IV-ii-V and I-IV-V. But what a beautiful GREAT melody and lyrics. So much possibilities but just the right inspiration. Great vid btw, thanks!
All aboard the peace train listening to the beauty of humanity. Thank you.
He's the best! Great to have him here in Atlanta!!
Rick's first comment surprised me because, as a bassist-singer, I have always crafted my bass playing as an outline of whatever song I'm singing. It's not just rhythm & tone (although it's that, too); the notes should outline the whole song. Some bass parts won't allow it as the may be only a pattern that everything else layers over, but usually a bass part will reveal an entire song especially with the vocal over it.
To hear Beato validate what I had been doing for decades is very refreshing.
@dylans voice Thank you! It's good to be appreciated.
I would love to see you get in deep discussions with the writings and singing of the Beatles. These guys were amazing. I know you talked about them when their series came out on tv but I think itâs worth a revisit.
Enjoy both of your videos, so seeing you together is great. Working on melody and bass until you hear the entire piece in those two lines -- I seem to recall reading that this was Brahms's first rule of composition (and he probably stumbled onto it by studying Bach scores. Great music transcends genre.
I'm so happy to hear Rick's feedback for your songs Mary. I feel like you can take that advice and +1 it in your next batch of songs. I think your videos/marketing is exceptional, and you can improve the harmonic content of your next album.
Check out some online videos on negative harmony - I think it can be really useful..
Hugs
Two of my favorite YT creators!!â€
Mary, it would be a good idea if you can give us an example where we don't take up the initial idea but tweak it around, until we get what's supposed to be there. It would be a really interesting way to see as a practical example.
Really looking forward to her album in October. She takes so much away from other musicians. What a great young lady.
So weird seeing you both together just because Iâve watched so much of your individual channels⊠looking forward as always to more content from you both
Another great video! A treasure trove of knowledge!
Even though I disagree with most of the song writing advice given still love hearing it! These last two videos on folk/singer songwriter stuff has been nice to see from Rick who sticks mainly to band/heavier rock in his analysis.
This is so special. Talented and beautiful Mary chatting to brilliant and experienced Rick. I love it.
As ever, advice to challenge and improve shared in an informative and inspiring way.
Wonderful video and great information!
Good stuff from two people I admire in this field.
†my two favorite people together⊠How awesome is thatâŁïž
Wow, this was really interesting! Wonderful insights I haven't ever thought of đ¶
Very interesting presentation Rick and Mary. Educational and informative. Having written a few tunes popular at the local level, but the most complex music I've written has only ever been played once in public. Those few tunes though, are the ones, looking back, I'm most proud of. Approached to write for a few weddings, trying to personalize a song for the couple, whether a hymn, a processional/recessional, or even for one couple, a song the groom sang to his bride.
They'll mean nothing to the world, but for those involved, they are everything. Knowing you made a special moment even more special for someone, with the little talent you have, is a buzz, I never found in performing.
Great to listen to the wisdom of Rick and Mary ... I want to get into dabbling in Music ... not just as a listener and an admirer. Creation is hard. But so satisfying!
A thing I noticed is having either the chords or (but not both) the bass to âpreviewâ the next change by one beat or delay by one beat. There is one beat of dissonance that resolves immediately and is often very satisfying.