Going Direct In with Bass - Why, When, and How
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Sweetwater Sales Engineer Kevin Spunde explains when and why you would choose to send your bass signal direct to the sound system.
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0:00 - Intro
0:30 - When and Why?
1:00 - Basic How To
2:34 - The Bare Minimum
3:22 - DI Boxes
3:50 - Preamps
5:30 - Preamp Pedals
6:18 - Using A Pedal Board
8:07 - In-Ear Monitors
9:00 - Thanks For Watching!
#Sweetwater
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Can you have this dude do more videos please? This has been the most fun video from Sweetwater Iâve ever watched!
Definitely!
@@MBGA123 maybe im wrong but he is alkaline trio bass tech
"Betty in the front row does not like amps" that made me chuckle ; )
And karen will want to talk to your manager.
This video may be three years old but it is wonderfully clear and to the point about bass pedals, signal chains and DI boxes. Thank you Sweetwater!
This guy is the future of Sweetwaters CZcams channel.
As a hobby electrician and after watching dozens of Bass di videos. This is tbe first video that correctly describes what a di is.
This video introduced several things that deserve their own video this length. Sounds like a series that Sweetwater should make! This guy is good! Thanks!
Yes, and I'm looking forward to his full discussion of ear rings.
Thatâs my sales Engineer!!!!!
Ayyyyyyy, that's my customer!! How's the new 4710D you just got working out so far?
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Sweetwater honestly one of the best purchases I made through you guys
Now that's service. Love it!!
Jeffâs my guy. This guy is so cool though.
@@originalfallinggirl All the sales engineers are pretty dope, but my guy Kevin rips on bass, and fixes cars aka badass lol
I appreciate the lick being used for the examples immensely. Thank you.
EDIT: Also Satie at the end there. Very nice.
Nice Gymnopedie at the end
this absolute monster of a man straight up tested DIs with The Lick
A REALLY helpful, compact synopsis of the D.I. (& other!) options available to all musicians - great stuff!
What a great glimpse at some of the gear that is available to Bass players. I did DI for years at our church. It's not that amps were verboten it's just so easy for me to come in which my rack and just plug in to the board. I use the Shure GLXD4R which had the DI built in. I don't use any pedals or effect except for an old BBE Sonic Maximizer so that was great for me. I do have a good bass, Alembic, with the active electronics good sound was available to me. The key for me in this whole situation was to put in the work to make it work. I was lucky enough to have good sound engineer who I trusted. He also had the connections to borrow a bunch of monitor boxes so we could decide on which one I liked the best. A little tweaking with the monitor mix, add a bit of compression, and good to go. I trusted him for FOH and as long as the comments were as expected I was happy. And the audience was happy, sounded good to me and to them. If a once in a while situation, well, people might be stuck with what they have. In that case I would just remember, "if they're paying, I am playing."
Love your playing and where IS that link to the article.
get this guy back to do more videos, what a talent
Thank you for breaking this down. Learned a lot from it
Spunde is the best--my SSE for 4+ years now.
Exactly what I need my bass player to figure out
Thanks for uploading
My salesman! Best Sweetwater guy ever!
Iâm so appreciative for this awesome info- this will finally help me complete my pedalboard setup.
Excellent presentation. Thank you for the education. Perfecto. From a resurrected musician from 36 years ago being dormant.
SansAmp Bass Driver DI is the Corporate Standard for going Direct for Bass. You watch Rig Rundowns of Touring Bass Players and there's always a SansAmp (ie: Duff, Steve Harris, dUg Pinnick, Frank Bello, etc... )
I enjoyed this so much I watched it twice đ
Great host, I'd love to see him more often.
Wow this was good education! I come from a classical music background, so this is all new to me! Thanks for posting =)
This type of presentation is great! Informative and relevant. Motivated to make a purchase decision. Itâs about tone right? đ
Darkglass is at the forefront of modern rock and metal bass and I recommend it for those purposes. These were great options and a great video overall! Great work.
This is a great quality informational video
Very informative and precise. Thank you
This was a great overview! Appreciated the chains and how you set things up (what goes where, etc.).
Great taste. It all sounded amazing.
brilliant video , thanks
I tried running my guitar through a UA 610 and Little Labs Redeye then into my amplifier. Aside from the sounding better than anything I had ever heard before part, it was a remarkable simulation of having an effects loop so I could have pedals before and after the preamp. It was so profound that I shipped off my un-opened BAE DMP to a professional guitarist friend of mine. đž
I should give him a call and see how that is going.
The Duality!!! My favorite fuzz, never understood why they discontinued it.
Thanks for this video! Late to the party here but I have a question. For rehearshal studio situations with a pedalboard, would you recommend going through specific monitor speakers?
this is fun to watch! i love this guy!!!! :'D
Good video and great background music.
really nice bass playing
Love the bass outro!!
I like the swag of this guy
if you have a preamp in your effects loop and use the xlr out to the pa do you still get all your other pedals to the pa? if you have a compression and a fuzz on your board?
Thanks, really good video
I like your pretty little earrings đđ Did u purchase them in a pawn shop ? đđ€Ł
Licc
No sansamp mentions?
Michael Romano but then he said he takes his BAE 1073 everywhere and credibility was re-earned.
Youâre AWESOME! Youâre better than Gene Simmons who did a demo at Sweetwater.
Shoutout for the Erik Satie at the end there - nice.
Gymnopedies sound great! Bravo!
DeberĂa poner mi compresor antes o despuĂ©s de mi preamp cuando estoy tocando en vivo?
Nice playing
Iâm a guitarist new to playing bass so Iâm a little lost with some stuff. The pedals I have on the board are a sp compressor, boss blues driver, and the orange big muff (forgot what itâs called). Iâve seen other people with a radial j48 di box at the front of their chain where they split to the FOH then come out of the box into their pedals then the amp. Help. Lol.
Is that something I should be doing? Or should I just run all the pedals into the di box then split the signal to FOH and my amp so theyâre both seeing the effects.
Maybe Iâm over complicating it.
the demo riff its "the lick " i got 2 pre amp di , one straight from my bass other after-effects :)
First a disclaimer, I am very old school here, like Cretaceous old school. Let me get that out there.
I grew up in the 60s and 70s with amps like Sunn, then Ampeg V4B, then SVT, Randall, Fender, Peavey, etc. Played with Jazz and Rnb artists around the world. Still do.
Amp sims just don't do it for me. I like my bass sound super "new-strings" clean, and I never use distortion or overdrive.
I have tried hundreds of amp sims, both hardware and virtual, and they sound to me nothing like the amps they claim to simulate, and more important for me, they have no "feel" like playing into a real amp.
Nowadays I go into a simple Thomann Millenium DI, split 1/4 inch to pedals, an envelope filter, and a compressor, octave box, and a chorus, and xlr into a QSC Touchmix 30 pro (Channel 1 clean, channel 2 effects) out to 2 Yamaha dxr-12 as wedges pointing back at me. I send my mains out to the house mixer, monitor outs to the Dxrs. Then, I have everyone else except me in the venue's bass monitor. For small venues, I take everything into the QSC, FOH into Yamaha DXR 15s, monitors still back to me, and auxes to everyone elses' monitors.
Of course, buying gear is mainly about the tone, like, fur sure. This guy here is more fun than a barrel of D.I. boxes!
There is definitely a âBetty in the front rowâ at every church... đ
Using The Lick to test DIs, classy dude!
Def learning that Erik Satie transcription
Can you do an update of this video? Helix stomp, Kemper, dark glass etc?! Thanks sweet water!!
I play bass for my church but I'd love a fatter sound without being louder (because of Betty). If it helps, I love Tobymac's bass sound and I'd like to get a bit closer to it. Any suggestions?
I have no need for a bass amp or a huge loaded pedalboard for bass guitar.
I use a pedalboard of effects for guitar. Guitar is an expressive instrument.
When I play bass, I view my job quite differently. It is to provide, in tandem with the kick drum, a solid and clean bottom sound and percussive foundation to the song. I find plenty of room for tasteful creativity within that approach without being distracting, focused on the song.
My live bass rig consists of a Shure wireless system, an Electro-Harmonix Platform compressor pedal, and a Radial JDI mono direct box. That's it. And it works perfectly.
For stage monitoring, I simply add the bass to the aux feed sent to my Yamaha powered wedge monitor.
I don't use IEM's because I mix from stage and step out front from time to time to monitor FOH sound.
Cool shirt dude!
my question is... I like my Ampeg bass amp( rocket bass 112 new version) it has a XLR direct out but I think it has NO CAB IR SIM on that XLR OUT. How can I add one so the soundman gets my cab sim dir out???? I thought for sure there would be a cab sim pedal that has XLR in and XLR out but no I cant find one
My man really hitting us with the lick over and over again đ
Lol the man just dropped "the lick" on bass. Naice!
I am currently having a Bass DI emergency where any time I try to turn up the bass in the PA there is this massive Whistle sound. I have checked literally EVERYTHING; Bass (Works), DI (Works), XLR (Works), Multicore channel (Works), Channel on desk (Works). But for some reason I still get this loud whistle sound when turning up the fader (and no, its not hum).
Any ideas?
I dies when you played the lick đ
Hi I have a question for anybody who can help me: I have a gp100 with a ts410 and i use it for bass but it gives me really low volume when the plug in is set to line, and if i change it to mic, the sound goes up but gets distorted, if i use a direct box would i get the right volume?
Was that sweden by c418 at the end there?
My DI only sends mic level, as do most. Good luck getting one that is line level.
I'm sure he meant mic level (low z).
So you donât really need an 800watt bass amp, right? If you play through a PA system, you can just go from
Bass through the DI box and into the PA? Is that right?
"Addicted to gear": what everybody thinks but nobody says.... I love it!
very Good
Iâd like to see a full rundown of your board, please. đŹ
Iâm using a Sterling SUb series active bass straight to my focusrite running on ableton donât like the tone Iâm getting should I use a DI box pre focusrite?
Yes
Yes and Yes . Watch yâallâs DI boxes I have those stolen or accidentally lost at venues
ha ha that riff sounds so cool
You are playing Claude Debussy or is it Satie at the end, that was a mind blower. Great video!
Satie.
being addicted to buying gear hahahah!! you got me
Quick question might be dumb but what ever...... I have a 6X10 fender neo cabinet cabinet with a fender bass man 500 head. I want to record the bass tone coming from the head so In the back of the head there is a XLR Hole so please correct me if I am wrong. I use the XLR cable going into the head going into my scarlet 3rd gen DAW. Is that still picking up the tone from just the bass head alone or is it just the picking up the sound from my bass pick ups directly into my scarlet.
Hello! If you select "post" on the XLR output you'll get the tone from the amp. It's never going to sound exactly the same as the whole amp with cab in your room, but at least that way you're getting your signal after it goes through the preamp and tone adjustments on the amp.
Thanks for the interest!
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
hi mate, i have a dbx 286s mi preamp. Can i use it to process even my electric bass using a DI? does this make any sense in order to get a better bass sound for my home recording?
Hello, Umberto! Yes, you could run your bass signal through that after it goes into the DI. I don't know if it will make your bass tone much better when recording, but it's worth trying out.
Thanks for the interest!
Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Spunde@Sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater probably the DI alone directly connected to my audio interface would sound better. i don't know
Does the quality of your amp affect the sound going out when using A DI Box?
I run into this issue where the tone of my bass sounds terrible and the volume levels no matter how much you play with it come out either to loud and distorted or too quiet and I can't hear myself play.
Hello, marvinbaptiste948! You should be running the bass directly into the DI box, and use the thru-put on the DI box to go into the front of the amp. I wouldnât recommend running it any other way.
Thanks for the interest!
Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Noob question here: can you use a di box along with an amp head like Markbass little mark series?
Hello, dxzebeats3769! Yes, you would run the bass directly into the DI box, and use the thru-put on the DI box to go into the front of the amp.
Thanks for the interest!
Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Jep, let him do more please
That song at the end sounds super familiar, but I can't place it. Anyone know?
What about a bass with active pickups? Mine is a Schecter. Is a di needed at all? If so, what one?
Hello, Felix! Yep, you would still need a DI box, and generally any/all of the same options would work fine. I wouldn't worry as much about getting something with tone controls on it either, since an active bass would already have tone sculpting capabilities.
Thanks for the interest!
Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Spunde@Sweetwater.com
So can I literally go from just my bass thru a DI to the P.A. without anything in between? He was very vague on that
The Radial JDI sounded best to me.
So could I just get a cord with the male mic part on one end and the jack on the other and just plug straight into the soundboard/pa system. Would it still work, and sound decent⊠and not mess up the microphones!! Lol any help would be greatly appreciated
It would work in the sense that it would make noise yes, would you want to do this, no.
You want the jack cable from your guitar to run into a DI box/amp. You then want the DI output from that to be sent to the FOH system. whether or not it messes with anything after that is down to the mercy of your sound guy.
Your signal would be so weak and tone would be so sterile u would immediately unplug it and throw a di pedal in between.
If i am going direct in with a bass, is it better to use an active bass or a passive bass?
Hello! It's all about what kind of tone you are going for, and what basses you already own or are looking to purchase next. The DI/preamp is receiving an instrument level signal from both kinds of basses, so that's really more of a question of whether or not an active bass is right for you. It's fine either way if you only own a passive bass, or if you prefer the active EQ sculpting capabilities that you can get from an active bass.
Thanks for the interest!
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater Thank you, may i ask if an audio interface like ssl2 works great as a DI/Preamp in live situations? I don't know if that makes sense i'm just curious
What are the best wireless transmitter for an active bass?
Hello, Kaycee! I prefer digital wireless systems for bass guitars. Here are a couple systems at different price points that I feel comfortable recommending:
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/U2Blk--xvive-audio-u2-digital-wireless-guitar-system-black
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/XSWDPedalSet--sennheiser-xsw-d-pedalboard-set
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GLXD16G--shure-glxd16-digital-wireless-guitar-pedal-system
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/QLXDBP-G50--shure-qlxd14-wireless-guitar-system-g50-band
Thanks for the interest!
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater ohhh okay.... The reason why I asked because I heard a few persons told me that there are some wireless transmitter that doesn't work properly with active bass
What's the name of the song played at the end? It sounds so familiar
Debussy - Clair de Lune
ik im 11 months late
@@ShinyPunkSam Close. It's Gymnopédie No. 1 by Satie
What if someone just wants to use a bass and a compression pedal,O D pedal and EQ pedal..what could be used to go in the mixer real simple and do the job that is kind of ,Not expensive.I'm a guitarist asking for a bass friend.
Nice Gymnopede (Iâm betting I butchered the spelling of that) outro!
Heh, the lick. :)
I run from a tuner to a D.I. and put my faith in God and the sound people :D
Could have touched on active/passive DI boxes. Good vid though
"Betty does not like amps!!!"
đđđ Betty needs to move back a few rows! đ€đŒđ„đ€đŒ
I'm trying to record my bass and guitar in my daw without my family hearing, does this allow that?
Hello, Teo! Yes, going direct in will allow you to record silently. Most interfaces have DI inputs, but getting a dedicated standalone DI can help your bass tone. For guitar, I'd recommend looking into some of the amp/cab sims/modelers. Guitar doesn't sound as good going just direct in.
Thanks for the interest!
Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Spunde@Sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater that's good to know, thank you!
I though the output from a D.I box was usually Mic level not line level.
Honeyed_aqua, more bass content please.
He definitely knows what he talks about.
I have a question. So I want to use a line out on the back of my amp. However, what I am asking is when we plug the bass wire from the amp to the audio interface function, does the sound from the amp cut off because it is connected to the audio interface system or will you hear sound both in the Bass Amp and the audio interface system at the same time? Sorry if the question is a little confusing. Thank you in advance for your answer.
Hello, Nathan! I can't say for 100% certain because I don't know what amp you have, but that shouldn't turn off the output on your amp. Any DI XLR output on the back of an amp would be strange if it simultaneously turned off the main output of the amp speaker. Sometimes if there's a headphone jack on an amp it will defeat the master out, though.
Thanks for the interest!
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater Yea thanks so much ro responding. I found the video insightful. Sparked my interest to push my creativity.
U can enable or disable the master out if u know how.
Going over some 'Bass-ics'.
That Twin Finity. Holy Shnikes.