Harvard University Jumps the Shark
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- Friends, I have no quarrel with a university chaplaincy reaching out to seekers and nonbelievers. But I do have a problem with the religious leadership at Harvard University electing someone who does not believe in God precisely as chaplain. If you don’t believe in God, then you’re not a chaplain.
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I went to Harvard… and I felt the most lonely and empty while studying there. The fellowship was more like a networking opportunity for students. Thank you for speaking so boldly.
"The words have been emptied of their meaning." Pretty much says it all. The reduction or dismissal of a universal language, objectivity ... Thank you for addressing this bishop Barronaron.
Exactly. It's just another attempt at seizing control of the language and twisting it to fit their own agenda. We see it happening in all areas from religion to gender and politics. If they can get us to surrender power over our language then everything else will soon follow. Straight out of the post-modern playbook.
This is a further extension of the "dictatorship of relativism".
If you look at some of the comments here, a lot of people are calling this video as misinformation since the "chaplain" is not doing religious stuff. To quote one comment, "His new job is the coordination, convening, and leading of meetings, nothing more than that." They don't get the point that if so, then DON'T call him a chaplain. Call him the atheist counsellor.
@@krdiaz8026 As a secular 'liberal,' I have to agree with that.
It's "academicky" nonsense as I call it.
@@serpentines6356 I like that “academicky”. 😁
“That Jones shall worship the god within him turns out ultimately to mean that Jones shall worship Jones."
-GK Chesterton (Orthodoxy)
Gort it. But. Harvard does not. Far away from trut,h. As usual.
Amazing that GK unintentionally predicted the trajectory of Jim Jones' theology...
So you (or G.K.Ch) are saying that it wasn't Christ who lived in Paul but it was Paul who lived in Paul? It's not the kingdom of God that is within ourselves but it's only us? Don't downplay the tremendous importance of God's omnipresence!
@@thedisintegrador that would be God in you, not the god in you
@@brunosm.l2267 well? I am not talking about the lower case 'g'
Protestant Christian here and Professor of Religion too, excellent comments Bishop and I totally agree. I sincerely appreciate your willingness to hold to some sort of objective absolutes and you clear communication. God Bless!
@Baby Hunn An approach with charity and discusssion would go further than first beating our Protestant brother down.
@@BellaJones2010 Your point is well taken. It is also worth pointing out to Baby Hunn, as he launches off on that "your church" diatribe, that he is wrong thrice. First in assuming that Potter is an Anglican; second, by implying that Anglicanism is coterminous with Protestantism; and third in his characterization of the Anglican position on The "B.V.M."
Sam Potter, whatever his denomination, was charitable enough to turn the other cheek, and refrain from pointing that out.
As for point three:
"Anglican theologians accept Catholic devotion to Mary
After 500 years churches agree on the mother of Jesus
,Stephen Bates, religious affairs correspondent
Tue 17 May 2005 07.07 EDT
After nearly 500 years of intense division, Anglican and Roman Catholic theologians yesterday declared that one of the two faiths' most fundamental differences - the position of Mary, the mother of Christ - should no longer divide them.
The move, aimed at reconciling Protestants to Catholicism's devotion to the Blessed Virgin, exemplified in thousands of statues in churches and shrines across the world, cuts across one of the more arcane disputes between the two churches, but is likely to alarm some evangelicals and conservatives.
A document called Mary: Grace and Hope in Christ, published yesterday in Seattle and to be released in London on Thursday, declares: "We do not consider the practice of asking Mary and the saints to pray for us as communion dividing ... we believe that there is no continuing theological reason for ecclesiastical division on these matters."
Baby Hunn, you owe Sam Potter an apology.
Hiring an atheist chaplain is like hiring a driving instructor without a driver's license. This is like a Monthy Python sketch, but it's actually happening...
It’s actually a tragic indictment of religion and it failures to light the way fir mankind.
The left is a giant monty python sketch. "Tis but a scratch."
He's been on staff for a while (as one of 30 theistic chaplains) and this new move is purely administrative. There's really no news here.
@@tzvik8519 also he's the unanimous choice. Had he been buddhist, he might also be atheist (buddhism does not demand any belief in god or gods)and no-one would have said anything.
@@tzvik8519 plenty of news here how long he’s been on staff is irrelevant
How ironic : "Atheists express their rage against God although in their view He does not exist." C. S. Lewis
Nope. Only a believer can be angry at god/ gods. Atheists can be angry at religion. At most.
@@albertjurcisin8944 there are a variety of ways to express anger with someone.
For instance, you can physically attack them, verbally attack them, defame them, deny your relationship to them... or deny they exist.
A passage from Fulton Sheen's "Your Life Is Worth Living" that I have in my library at home:
Let me tell you the story of an atheist in London, England. I used to do considerable work in St. Patrick's Parish, in Soho Square. One Sunday morning I came into the front of the
church to read Mass, and found a young lady standing in front of the communion rail haranguing the congregation. She was saying, "There is no God! There is too much evil in the world! Reason cannot transcend sense! It is impossible to conclude to his existence!" "Every night," she said, "I go out to Hyde Park. I talk against God. I circulate England, Scotland and Wales with pamphlets denouncing a belief in the existence of God."
As I reached the communion rail, I said to her, "Young lady, I am very happy to hear you say you believe in the existence of God."
She said, "You silly fool, I don't!"
I said, "I understood you to say just the contrary." Suppose I went out every night to Hyde Park and talked against twenty-footed ghosts and ten centaurs. Suppose I circulated England, Scotland and Wales denouncing a belief in these ghosts and centaurs? What would happen to me?"
She said, "You would be crazy! They would lock you up!"
I said, "Do you not put God in the same category as these fantasies of the imagination? Why would I be crazy attacking them and you not crazy attacking God?"
She said, "I don't know. Why?"
I said, Because when I attack these phantoms of the imagination, I am attacking something unreal, but when you attack God, you are attacking something as real as the thrust of a sword. Do you think we would have any such thing in the world as prohibition unless there was something to prohibit? Could there ever be anti-cigarette laws unless there were cigarettes? How can there be atheism unless there is something to atheate?"
She said, "I hate you!"
I said, 'Now you've given the answer."
Atheism is not a doctrine, it is a cry of wrath.
@@michaelmicek Yeah, but denying the existence of somebody/ something requires belief that there is such a thing/ person. If so, then you are a believer, not an atheist. And it is former believers who are most angry at god, anyways.
Compare: how easy it is to be angry at anti-vaxxers even without having any doubt that there is nothing substantial backing their views.
@@asnrobert It is a very nicely written but highly manipulative passage relying exclusively on a believer´s perception of an atheist. For an atheist it is relatively easy to understand what constitutes a believer. What such person thinks and how it affects various aspects of their life. On the other hand I find most fascinating that believers fail to grasp the concept of atheism. Agnostic atheism, not the dogmatic and very rare version as presented in the passage. That is a true believer in God. But a straw man, nonetheless.
I used to feel uncomfortable about unbelieving architects making churches, but this is a different level. But we must pray that God's justice and righteousness rescue all the blinded and trapped out, to our true king and priest, Jesus Christ.
Amen.
Pray and refuse to send our children to “elite” schools. Too dangerous for their eternal souls.
Have u seen the Los Angeles Cathedral?
It looks like a bunch of cardboard boxes pushed into a corner
God bless you brother
@@zlatanivanoff8878 God bless you and all our brothers and sisters 😊
I was an atheist for last 20 years. Since I was 14 and now I have come back to my catholic faith. I may be able to give you some insight as one of those people.
Amen, Be bold in what you have to say. Remember the great prayer from Acts: "enable your servants to speak your word with great boldness. Stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus.”
After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly".
God bless Bishop Barron and Word on Fire ministries. Always proclaiming the gospel with great effect 🙏
"The word “Harvard” may impress people around here, but to an American, it means one thing only: decline."
- The Young Pope -
“I would rather be governed by the first 200 people in the phone book than the entire faculty of Harvard.”
Love you for quoting that
So you weren't smart enough to get into Harvard. Got it.
@@MikeXCSkier I believe Paolo Sorrentino went to the University of Naples.
Mike Sasin have you ever taken a class there? Met doctoral students from there? It’s remarkably disappointing outside of stem.
Thank you Bishop Barron for speaking out.
The Bishop needs more support to go and do battle. He has some gates to smash down. There needs to be a recall.
I appreciate Bishop Barron’s clear explanations about the philosophical underpinnings of this sort of decision at Harvard. So often, I hear about stuff concerning religion in the modern world that leaves me scratching my head and feeling uneasy without quite knowing why. Thank you Word on Fire. 🔥🔥
Yes, I so much like his insights into the history of philosophy! They are so helpful in understanding what's going on today.
@@johnwake1001 If only the whole world had more people with such insight as Dear Robert here.
@@ScotsThinker True.
I agree with you Your Excellency, when an atheist becomes a chaplain, then it kills the meaning or definition of the word. Well said as I stand by your side. Greetings from Yuma, Arizona Your Excellency.
When a trump supporter calls himself a Christian, then he will burn in hell one day.. Stupid people..
When a child molester becomes a priest, then it kills the meaning or definition of the word.
“ You’ve been trying to reach out”, you’ve reached me in a huge way , thank you . Don’t stop , I need you.
Harvard has abdicated its ethos long ago. It's a world gone mad
Yup. It’s like who cares at this point. Farcical.
@@esterhudson5104 it is a farce. So true.
With that said I care very deeply, because I know that normalcy is among the majority. Christians are the majority. The problem is that we want change, but we don't understand that we must make sacrifices and actually change the system itself as part of that sacrifice.
In my honest opinion, we are all complicit simply because we do not act. Acts of kindness, charity, boldness of faith, and the golden and silver rules. Perhaps it's merely a sign that the hearts of men have become cold to the presence of God
@@jenniferwinston7842 Regarding "taking action", I am reminded of Israel's disobedience almost immediately after the successful Exodus, when God explicitly asked them not to go out on the seventh day. But then God says something more amazing - "They must realize that the Sabbath is the Lord's gift to you..." (Exodus 16:29). So in a way what is worse about us failing to act is that somewhere we are not realizing the abundance of gifts God has given us, with the most beautiful gift of the Holy Spirit. Instead we become complicit with an abstract idea of society or individuality, which is just another way of partnering with the loser Satan. I find comfort in what James said about the effectiveness of prayer of a righteous person. Come on folks, dont forget to wear the breastplate of righteousness everyday, its God's gift!
@@mohitchawla9791 I hear you. Don't get me wrong, I understand that God does the work through us.... and that the Eucharist as well as prayer is a must.
With that said, liberty itself is a quest for virtues. If one prays, but doesn't act politically then they are not paying attention to the call as stated in our catechism.
I mean, if you see somebody on the side of the road that needs help - maybe they are lying there in the street cars pass by....as I've seen actually..... are we going to stop and pray about it? We don't need to be taught basic ethics of the golden and silver rules
@@jenniferwinston7842 of course, I meant prayer as a way to “rend our hearts” regularly so when it’s time to act, no matter the obviousness or the lack of it in the situation, we can do the needful with the help of the Holy Spirit.
Thank you Bishop. We need you now more than ever. Religion is not merely a value system. It’s purpose and objective is RELATIONSHIP with GOD.
Prove your god exists and then maybe you have something.
@@MikeXCSkier hmmm... One fish says to the other, prove we swim in this thing called "water."
@@vegadog3053 What does that even mean? The existence of water can be proven.
@@MikeXCSkier I cannot be proven by the fish. It is beyond their evolved abilities...but then, so is talking. The idea is that a fish isn't aware it swims in water. We probably can't comprehend the reality of the universe anymore than a fish understands it swims in water, but a higher intelligence sees it clearly.
@@vegadog3053 LOL That actually seems to be an argument against the claim that a particular god exists with a defined moral code/ dogma etc. According to your logic there is no reason to trust the assertions by a lower intelligence that a higher intelligence exists (and the nature of that intelligence) because they cannot comprehend such a thing.
Bishop Baron. I’d love to shake your hand just once before I leave this earth for this one talk. Your videos have always astounded me, but this one? Wow. This one draws a line in the sand. This is a voice that has been needed for quite a while in the American Catholic Church. We are praying for you. We are blessed to have you as our shepherd.
Amen
That’s what my Mom would say “ calling a spade a spade “. An atheist should not be a chaplain. Pray to St Michael
Atheists can never become Chaplains without compromising their unbelief. It's such a contradiction for both sides.
I'll stick with praying to Christ as He is God and Michael just works for Him ... ;)
Ridiculous
@@rukusfan1387 But the Angels and Saints can intercede for us so why not call upon them by the power and authority of Jesus? The prayer itself says "By the power of God....". There are principalities in Heaven that yes, all "work" for God but no doubt they play an important role in the spiritual realm and in spiritual warfare.
@@beth5636 Hey Beth! where does it say that? (I never claimed to be the smartest guy in the world ...) Thanks. (why would I ask the slave to do what the master does better?) I do agree that the angels have a role but I do not pray to them as they are not divine. I do not see the need to pray to anyone but Christ. How can someone of lesser ability help me more? Peace and blessings to you and your family.
“…What it means to be a good human being and live an ethical life.” Ok, whose “good” are we talking about? The “good” of David, Muhammad, Buddha, Ghengis Kahn, or Hitler? How we define “good” shapes the ethics, and without a God, there is no definition of objective “good.” The only secular objective good is strength to impose or cunningness to manipulate/convince a majority of people to follow the leader’s idea of good…otherwise known as “do what though wilt.”
Amen.
I would say David Muhammad & Buddha know what good is but not Kahn or Hitler
Amen!
A morality from a god is still subjective....and in the case of many Christian religious sects, it is a moral system absolutely imposed by strength, i.e. at the threat of being sent to God's eternal torture chamber known as hell. As for your misunderstanding of secular ethics, I think you'll find that many atheists don't actually assert that objective morality exists or don't find the argument about the existence of a singular objective morality to be all that important. This doesn't mean that all behaviors must be tolerated or given equal standing though. Empathy is just one of the things that influences an individual's moral code. Seems like a better place to start than a religious text written thousands of years ago that condones owning people and features many instances of genocide.
@@cookergronkberg .....which you don't believe in. So where's the threat for you? You as an individual might have ethical standards but you devised them. If you devised them then they can be changed on a whim. So called "secular ethics" in western culture are essentially Christian. You have no ethics beyond those that are imposed by your culture which was founded on JudeoChristian values and morals.
You are patient to have tackled this issue Bishop. Thank u for patiently dealing with this.
O Mary, Mother of God. Pray for us !
Thank u Bishop Barron. Continue sharing the Truth and bravely speaking against what is wrong and misleading.
You are doing what a successor of one of the apostles should do!
Thanks Bishop Barron and God bless you
It needed to be said. Thank you for speaking on it Bishop.
Thank you, Bishop Barron! You are spot on!
According to Harvard University website, the motto it adopted in 1692 was “Veritas Christo et Ecclesiae” which translated from Latin means “Truth for Christ and the Church.”
What a a sad moral decline of a great institution.
All the Christian "Faithful" need to pray to the Holy Spirit, to convert the heart of this young man. Prayers work & our God is a God of miracles.
Let us all pray.
Best idea I've heard yet. I'll add his name to my prayer list
this young man , an Atheist, is an Epstein. What to expect, of an Epstein... ?
JUDEN !!!
@@metalguru9333 Please see my comment above.
@@margueritelangton6362 Good people have been praying for The Jews, for thousands of years now....
On the other hand, they did just implicitly admit that Atheism is indeed a Faith.
That's disputable but "they" are the ones who simply cannot get their heads around the idea that the agnostic atheist is just waiting for a bit of irrefutable evidence.
"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than to live as if there isn't and die to find out that there is." - ALBERT CAMUS
What if you believe in the wrong god?
@@derekallen4568 There is only ONE God; he is also the RIGHT God.☆
@@marypinakat8594 oh! Mary their are hundreds of gods over the millennia invented by humanity. Your God's no different.
@@derekallen4568 if God exists, there is only one real God and I believe should have love as his very nature since love is the highest virtue possible in man.
Did Camus explain why?
I agree with you 100% Bishop!
Appalling and sad that this is even in question. Perfect timing that your video and teaching on The Creed has just been released. Thank you for speaking the truth!
Thanks for speaking out on this, Its always easy to be silent. God bless you
Bless you so much for speaking out; the deafening silence from so many others about this remains troubling, even disconcerting.
“And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.”
Matthew 16:18
Not very smart for Harvard. I pray that this is the head “chaplain”’s access to becoming a believer. God is still a miracle maker.
Thank you Bishop Barron. Spoken beautifully, a real arrow into my heart, a message to be forwarded to everyone I know. Bless you Bishop Barron.
Once again Bishop excellent job in standing up to the insanity of today’s secular world.
Speaking of words empty of meaning: people other than women can get pregnant according to our new mandarins.
Bravo, Bishop Barron. Well said. Well done! These are areas we need to pray for as we watch the world turning slowly but steadily into a scary dimension. God bless you Bishop.
It’s good to see the Bishop speak up. Well done.
There’s a lot of money in confusion. I suppose he thinks he’s clever…
Well said. Of late as soon as I feel “confused”, I run to Christ. There is no confusion in him. He is all “light”.
I was in a restaurant in Pittsburgh, 30 years ago, and overheard the table next to me say, “it’s Harvard’s mission to take the word Christ out of its school of divinity.” It looks like, this day has come. Sad to hear, but thank you for sharing. God bless us all.
Bishop Barron, thank you for your courage and efforts to call out what you see in the world that is missing the mark. You do this in a loving manner, backed with kindness and thoughtfulness, with citations from history's intellectual foundations. My wife and I are faithful LDS, and we love your podcast messages and your video vignettes. Keep up the good work, brother.
Thank you Father💫God bless you🌸
Don’t the religious students at Harvard also have the right to seek counsel from someone with religious belief? Or to be comforted by someone who draws on a religious faith? They’re being dismissed and having an injustice done to them by the university.
They still have that right. Harard has over 40 chaplains with more than two dozen different faiths. The Humanist is now only in charge of coordinating, convening, and leading meetings, thats pretty much all. So calm down.
@@kingcobra5885 "Harvard jumps the shark"....bishop jumps the gun..🤣🤣🤣
@@ritawing1064 He is the chief chaplain, its like a pope who doesn't believe in God.
Chaplain is a religious title and primarily a religious role.
Others have pointed out that there are 40 chaplains of all stripes and that the appointment in question is largely administrative. Panic over.
From the description on his page: "Special areas of interest: ethics in technology; meaning and purpose beyond religion; existentialism and humanism in literature and popular culture; developing healthy masculinity from a feminist perspective; secular humanistic Judaism; racial justice and healing; the philosophy and practice of interfaith work." I am reminded of something a rabbi said once: "There are two kinds of Jews: those that think Judaism is all about social justice, and those who can read Hebrew."
Thank you bishop Barron for holding fast to the truth and standing up a against the crazy things that are happening in America. You can’t take God out of the chapel.
God is going to bring something substantial out of this. Praise God.
Great attitude! When we have a small god, we have a big problem, but with a big God, we have a small problem.
I am in agreement. This is the time of the great unmasking and I’m not talking about paper masks.
Yes! He was, is and will always be the One in charge of everything - our only consolation and hope
Bishop, thanks so much for taking a stand on this. Very eloquently spoken.
Thank you for such a succinct definition of what we believe as Christians. I realize you referred to your self and I grabbed a hold of that thank you
Bishop Barron - I always enjoy your very cerebral and logical arguments.... and this one of Harvard appointing an atheist chaplain is right on target.
Take care, good luck, and God bless!
Amen!!! More religious believers and clergy should speak out.
Thank you for speaking the truth, having strength and backbone to stand for what is right. You always speak with respect and class. I enjoy your videos so much.
“Harvard jumps the shark”
In other words, it’s a day ending in -y
God bless you Bishop, thank you for speaking on this matter!
When you stand for nothing, you fall for everything!
Leading by action, thank you Bishop Barron.
I love this channel. Just wanted to put that out there.
My God this age will drive me crazy ! I can not follow these ideas.
This is the ultimate end of a certain belief system. If we interpret, as individuals, what is right from the Bible. Then that shapes our world view and culture, eventually everything is relative.
This is so very heart breaking 💔 Bishop Barron. Harvard has fallen far short of the mark . 😢
It’s more disturbing when they undermine religion in this way than when they fight it outright.
Just don't send your kids there.
Honestly they are just undermining themselves. Barron is right, us religious folk are the ones undermining religion when we submit to their nonsense.
First the Cornell West debacle and now this. BTW you should interview Cornell West, Bishop. I would love to hear you two converse!
Thank you for your words Excellency, they are always of guidance for us
🙏🏻 thank you .. I have a problem with that as well .. he is rather young .. I heard him speaking and his statements are rather confusing .
Rhetorical question here: Why would an atheist even WANT to take on a chaplaincy? Unless he's getting some weird chuckle out of the sad irony here. I work at a university, and I would never seek an appointment for religious discussion with the atheist 'chaplain' - what could he possibly help me with??
Maybe he sees the term less in a religious light and more in trying to help people who are in a difficult position mentally.
@@MrMuugoo maybe he needs to create his own department and not piggyback off the hard work of others
@@MrMuugoo Yes, that's what Bishop Barron adeptly noted, with the point being that a chaplaincy is specifically to do with religion. I'm pretty sure Harvard has a counselling centre to help with anyone's mental health issues.
@@MrTonyd1954 or the chaplains need to realize religion has failed to such an extent that people view an atheist as more morally upright than them. And that they should purge themselves of their failures and lead by acting as their religions teach.
@@elizabethclark2022 but religion regardless of stripe has failed. It’s rife with hypocrisy, perversion, lies, and betrayal. Most people want someone to listen and give some guidance, not a series of sermons followed by laws/traditions that no one can live by. In a tragic sense atheism has become its own religion.
“...so much nonsense...”. God bless you Bishop
Well, this is what happens when you give things up...you lose them. Harvard started off as a christian school like all the old universities in america were. And the religious hired and gave over to non-religious and this is what you get.
Great talk and explanation Bishop. Thank you.
Well I for one can’t swim very well, but I’m sure they’ll call me the world champion at the hundred meters freestyle.
Now I can confidently declare: Franciscan U > Harvard U
Harvard has lost basic logic.
Bishop, you are such a great resource of clarity and faith. The Boston mission field is difficult in some ways, but the faith of many of the students there is simply amazing!
Bishop B calling out Harvard! Yes! I love it when our leaders weigh in on relevant societal issues!
Thanks Bishop Barron for your enlightenment. I pray that you become a cardinal the soonest.
That’s very kind. But I wouldn’t hold your breath!
The worst part about satire is watching it become real and devoid of its satirical nature some time later.
Thank you for taking the time and patience to converse with everyone. You and Word on Fire are helping to hold some meaning in place. Whatever slouches towards Bethlehem will at the very least consider turning around and perhaps learn to stand up straight and put away dark dreams for the world of the living.
Words do have a meaning and a purpose. :) I loved your words.
Have any of the supposed chaplains of Harvard given any explanation for why they gave over spiritual guidance of students to an atheist?
Christianity Today has an article titled “Why I Voted For the Atheist President of Harvard’s Chaplain Group”.
The Evangelical author says the media has largely mischaracterized the position Greg Epstein was elected to; it’s more a chairman overseeing the administrative functions of the interfaith Harvard Chaplains, rather than presenting any sort of theological leadership. Epstein was already part of the Harvard Chaplains, and the new duties are just stuff like running meetings and being the liaison between the Harvard Chaplains and the university. Also, the author says that Epstein has been very good about coordinating interfaith events like service projects without excluding faiths with exclusionary views.
This reminds me of Ideas have consequences by Richard M Weaver even words have been stripped of objective meaning
Great, succinct articulation of the faith!
The Chief Chaplain of Harvard University not believing in God...? God bless those who hired this man. Thank you Bishop Barron for this information.
Bishop Barron, this might be one of your finest videos yet
@@russellmiles2861 What is incorrect about what the bishop said?? He IS a chaplain. Does it really matter why he's in the news now versus 7 years ago. The bishop's point is that it is logically impossible for an atheist to be a chaplain. Don't lose the forrest for the trees
@@russellmiles2861 I say again. You're missing the forrest for the trees. Ok, the guy was elected not appointed. Fine. He is not a new chaplain, he has been there for 7 years. Fine. These are trivial details. The point is that it's crazy to have an atheist chaplain. That's literally the point of the video and you're discussing trivia
Oh, dear. I recognize myself in that popular Kantianism and the subjectivism of Schleiermacher. Welp, I will keep listening to Bishop Barron, and we'll see what happens.
Thank you!
It worries me how secular the faith is becoming. I say this as someone who, admittedly, often used to repeat secular platitudes in reference to my faith, fairly often, only to look back and see how off the mark I had become. The modern culture has a way of slipping imperatives into our brains.
Its not really ethical of this ethical atheist to take a clerical position.
Thank you bishop for speaking the truth!
I appreciate this concern. It is a sad day when such an event happens. But rather than complain or point out error, it must be for us a "call" to do more on campus. Bishop your appeal to intellectuals is critical today.
You brought me back to our Lord thank you Bishop. All i know
ALWAYS LOVE THE TRUTH!
Prayers. Lots of prayers
Agreed! Much better articulated than the words I thought of it. Thank you
I recently had this discussion with my 30 year old son who professes to be an atheist even though he was raised Catholic. His conversion came about when he attended college and has yet to change. The only words that I have offered to him on why having any sort of faith in his life is because of humility and gratitude as well as a sense of comfort that our Lord Jesus Christ died for us and rose up for us. We are never alone.
Pick up a copy of 'the Return' from word on fire that helps with such conversations. (I have no relation with the organization). We have been doing small group discussions around it at our parish that have led to some amazing discussions.
@@6williamson thank you I will.
Bravo Bishop Barron!
I do indeed have a problem with it as well! Shame, shame, shame on the Catholic chaplain who was part of that unanimous vote!
I went to Harvard. It doesn't surprise me at all that Harvard CHAPLAINS, unanimously elected an atheist as University Chaplain. Words have no meaning to them.
How sad that they have turn their backs on the beauty of the word of God.
"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." - Ezekiel 23:20
"But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves." - Numbers 31:18
"Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet..." - Exodus 4:25
Oh yeah, simply beautiful...
God bless you!
“God is worshipped in chapels, presided over by people called chaplains...” What a lively, honest and genuine response to this nonsense at Harvard; just great!
I say about time! The sooner we divorce our morale authority from invisible men the better.
Extraordinary event, that tells us so much about the time we live in. As the Bishop points towards; religion clearly means nothing to the modern mindset. religion is only another subjectively ‘psychological self help’ approach.
Well to play devil’s advocate, one religion tells us it’s peaceful then blows up buildings and kills people by stoning them. Another religion cries about how they were mistreated by others, then goes on to steal another people’s land and mistreats them. Then another tells people how they are all sinners and how they should live virtuous lives, while they molest children, take donations for their own personal desires and abuse their power. Then deny they’ve done anything wrong until the truth is forced out of them. Religion made itself obsolete by its own disingenuous hand.
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The trouble isn’t religion, the trouble is moral licensing, people think the good they do outweighs the evil, so they can justify their evil deeds.
It all loops around back to pride, that Lucifer is a cunning fellow.
@@MrMuugoo I heart what your saying and agree with much of what you have said. But think too many people are playing ‘Devils Advocate’ in today’s world.
@@allthenewsordeath5772 what is religion but a moral license to tell the population what to do, think, say, and feel. You see religion regardless of type is evil. Why? Because man is involved, and there are few more evil than men.
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It is true that there is no creature on this earth with a greater capacity for evil than humans, but it is equally true that there is no creature on this earth with a greater capacity for good then humans, as I said before the problem is men thinking that just because they do good, it means the evil they do is irrelevant.
You are right that religion is in large part a tool for enforcing rules, but that is probably because without rules things pretty quickly descend into chaos, and the rules of God are generally more sturdy than the laws of the state.
As a practicing Catholic, I would be happy to take over leadership of the university’s Atheist Club. For the sake of diversity.
Objective and clear as usual. Thank you.