IF DUBOIS DETONATES, JOSHUA GETS PTSD! 🤯 | EP79 | talkBOXING with Simon Jordan & Spencer Oliver
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- 00:00 - Introduction
01:51 - Frank Warren Reaction
07:52 - Anthony Joshua v Daniel Dubois Announced
22:22 - Anthony Joshua v Daniel Dubois Undercard
37:01 - Other News & Stories in Boxing
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The way these guys disrespect Usyk is unbelievable
Usyk will beat Fury. I do not understand why they think Fury will beat Usyk second time around. More likely Usyk stops Fury. Fury’s punch resistance has diminished and Usyk is getting stronger.
Usyk deserves respect for exposing the hypejob and quitter Anthony Joshua twice and beating Fury in the Undisputed
Don't cry mate, Usyk doesn't know you exist 😂
@@abb7118 Still sobbing so much 😭
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_GrandmaGet out more fella. It's healthy for you to get some fresh air you know.
The 2 CLOWNS at it again never pick USYK to win. USYK beats Fury and AJ , every day of the week
Usyk embarrassed Anthony Joshua twice despite AJ's dirty tactics and help from corrupt judges. Fury Usyk undisputed was a close competitive fight. Usyk landed 13 more punches than Fury over twelve rounds
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandmavery close fight 🤣🤣 ever the comedian you are.
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma Joshua was never all over the ring like that fury was like Bambi on ice ur name says it all fool
Fury vs usyk was very close and could have went either way.
said nobody who knows what there talking about!
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If you guys are trying to sell the fight, I guess that makes sense. Joshua can and will end the fight at any time against Dubois. Dubois gets caught by straight punches too easily and will be stopped inside of 6. It doesn't matter of Dubois did well against Usyk. Usyk doesn't get hit by straight punches to the face at all, which is why Usyk was able to beat Joshua convincingly their fight, and edge Joshua in the second fight. Every punch that fell short for Hrgovic will land solidly for Joshua and the fight will be over much earlier than Dubois fans will expect.
Was it the same with ruiz fans 😂
@@frankiefranks1560 I think Joshua will fight much more carefully after getting Dubois hurt than he did after knocking Ruiz down. Further, Dubois just gets hit by too many straight right hands and that doesn't seem like a tendency he will be able to change.
Sounds about right, AJ looked brilliant against Whallin, could go the same way with Daniel, however, if Daniel lands, who knows. But AJ is looking sharper
Lmao. You're in for a shock
Fury isnt beating usyk. Joshia will spark dubois
Pretty sure AJs power punches are harder than Usyks jab, he’s not the only one than can suffer from PTSD!
Why is it always ‘if AJs opponent lands he’s in trouble & could be over’…what if AJ lands!!??? 😂
Because these men know nothing about boxing
Cos we've seen how AJ reacts when he's caught flush. You can literally see his brain going into panic mode
Ticket prices are disgusting no wonder half the stadium seats are still available
If Dubios detonates! Please explain to me who has Dubios ever knocked out of any Quality, another Boxers power completely overrated
He finished Hrgovic and he’s a tough opponent and he hurt Usyk badly . No easy fight for AJ , Dubois has fast hands
Hrgovic is a Matchroom fighter. He had been calling out Anthony Joshua but Joshua ran from him to fight tomato cans. Dubois KOed Hrgovic to become IBF champion
He didn’t finish Hegovic!
That fight was stopped on cuts (most of which were from head clashes)
@@stubrown7766 give him some credit , he smashed him up, which Zhang couldn’t do.
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma 😂 you really hate aj don’t you, every comment you have wrote is hating aj, why are you so jealous of him you don’t even know him, hrgovic didn’t get ko
Every time AJ has a fight now - the narrative is, they didn't come to box. Yet before Francis Ngannnu- Froch and a few others said it would be very tough. They said Otto Wallin was a "tricky southpaw" - after the event, it was a case of "they are useless". AJ could beat Dubois and they'll say Daniel was average at best. AJ never gets credit.
Agreed, the man can't win either way.
All these analysts and pundits picked Anthony Joshua to KO Ruiz. Ruiz dropped Anthony Joshua 4 times and made him quit😂
Everyone of these experts predicted Anthony Joshua would beat Usyk. Usyk humiliated AJ twice despite AJ's dirty tactics and corrupt judges
@@rangeroverroy it’s so obvious to see the agenda. Carl Froch keeps saying he doesn’t have an agenda against AJ but makes a 15 minute video saying he needs to take criticism. I remember a pundit saying they liked the way Andre Ward boxed, and Carl said “you don’t understand boxing then”. Can give criticism, but cannot accept it in return. Embarrassing really
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma they also said Otto Wallin would be a very tough test for AJ. Then after he nullified him, they said Wallin was washed up anyway.
The best heavyweight on the planet is a middleweight that’s all you need to know about this heavyweight era
Two weight undisputed champion that tells me everything about Usyk.
Did Simon just say Fury and Joshua are the two generational "perceived" greats? Perceived by who? Even after Usyk battered both of them and almost took Fury's head off these two still disrespect Usyk, the best heavyweight of this era and all-time great. It's like listening to Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee.
British media arrogance
Yep spot on mate it's wild every episode they discredit Usyk and favour Aj and Fury ! It's a frustrating listen to say the least
Usyk , fury , aj , wilder will all be considered memorable fighters stop hating they are the 4 champs of the last era and don’t have long left enjoy the fights and support the fighters there all be gone soon ! Stop with this fury vs aj BS as well there both in 50/50 fights next it may never happen !
@@scoobdog7655 you are missing my point. Simon said Joshua and Fury are THE two perceived generational greats, with no mention of the man who vanquished both of them. He didn't say before Usyk moved up to heavyweight, he was talking about now. The bias and disrespect is just too much. And stop with the "hater" rubbish, Joshua and Fury are still top heavyweights, they might be in #2 and #3 position after Usyk in a stacked division.
Also, why do you say "stop with this Fury vs AJ BS", I didn't even mention Fury vs AJ! I'm looking forward to Usyk vs Fury 2, not thinking about Fury vs Joshua.
If Danny doesn't move his head, he can kiss it goodbye!
Bro, he's going to sleep straight!!😴 😅😂
Agreed. Dubois is a handy enough fighter but he really lacks lateral head movement, therefore presenting too much of a target. However it should be a great fight and good luck to both men.
Same thing goes for AJ
What if aj detonates first
Anthony Joshua detonated on Andy Ruiz. Ruiz got up, dropped AJ 4 times and made him quit
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma was years ago he ain't been dropped since get over it
@@mrw.2361joshua is chinny
@@micd8348 I think most heavyweights are minus usyk,... Fury,wilder, dubois,parker have all been smashed about
Dubois irons out Joshua. Its going to be brutal 😂
It’s safe to say that Joshua vs Dubois is the Spencer Oliver derby
AJ gets a round 2 Knockout
Anthony Joshua went 12 rounds against factory worker Franklin😂
Some people have been watching to much mma fighters trying to box 😂😂
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma Fury went 10 rounds with the non-boxer and got knocked down in the process.
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_GrandmaFury went the distance against Ngannou 😂
Spencer you say that you have seen evidence what Daniel Dubois is working in the gym with Don Charles and what he has improved on. However Spencer Fearon has told BKM that Dubois has not improved under Don Charles. Daniel has already all the boxing skills however Don Charles has improved his mindset. When Seconds Out asked Don Charles what he has improved with Daniel he said his defence ? Everyone could see in the HRgovic fight that Daniel was being hit far too often with the right hand. When this was put to Don Charles he said it was decoy ?
Why do you two never give a chance to Usyk, who has beaten everybody.
Frank and Fury's team would tell Simon it's Fury's choice and Fury would tell you he's going to box and do whatever he wants yada yada yada, so Simons point is moot.
Not going to talk about Tyson Fury because he's annoyed me but bi polar has a huge impact on someone and to suggest he should stop boxing because someone said it could make it worse ISA bit ridiculous when boxing helps more than it can make it worse my daughter has bi polar and it's complicated
Tyson Fury is a humble likeable bloke. He trash talks to sell his fights
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma 😂😂😂
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma he annoyed me with the AJ deadline because he made it easy for everyone to blame him Eddie was never going to let that fight happen even his team openly said that they wanted confidence building fights people still believe that fight would of happened if Tyson hadn't set the deadline witch is ridiculous I think Tyson is good overall for the heavyweight division but there's so much sheep mentality with boxing fans and people like Carl froch has grown his channel really quickly because of sheep mentality fair play to him but I just don't like all the hate Tyson gets like AJ got witch I think was partly why he lost his confidence if people don't like someone then fine but it gets to the point we're its almost bullying it effects people Tyson says how he feels in that moment witch isnt a lie a lie is when you say something you know isn't true but ill get called a fan boy bit I'm a fan of all boxers in the uk mostly but foreign fighters as well i get bored of the hate👍
That was a good listen 👍🏻
These two are still pushing the ‘Fury is the best heavyweight of this era’ propaganda instead of just being honest and giving Usyk the respect he deserves.
Encyclopedic boxing knowledge & analysis! Simon nd Spence👍🤟
There's a reason AJ has avoided fighting high pressure, power punchers since he last fought Ruiz. AJ is very ineffective on his back foot. He need to setup his best punch and he won't get many chances to do that for at least the first half of the fight where Dubois will be applying intense pressure and turning into a tear up. He'll be far more comfortable and effective than AJ in that style of fight and is in good practice given his previous two fights. AJ is well out of practice when it comes to tear up, and once Dubois starts landing, there'll be questions about AJ's mentality.
If AJ can survive, Dubois will tire somewhat in the mid-late rounds. That will be AJ's chance to set something up.
Who has he avoided😂 he’s literally fought everyone in the division expect fury and wilder, and mostly mandatorys
@@Jordan-yq1xr Which power punchers has he fought since Ruiz, 4 and a half years ago? In just the last two years he's fought Franklin, Helenius, Wallin and Ngannou, 3 of which were coming off loses, hardly murderers row is it?
@@PerpetualAlfaWho has he avoided?
@@PerpetualAlfasince Ruiz he fought a mandatory (Pulev), mandatory (Usyk), Usyk rematch, then three comeback fights (one which changed last min due to a failed drug test) and an Ngannou bonus fight. Picking and choosing?
You're underestimating AJ's counterpunching ability. Dubois marching foward with no angles or head movement will work in AJ's favour.
Usyk is the boogie man there won't be an all British undisputed
If Daniel charges he gets koed within 4 instead of 8.
These two just casually throwing out that Fury beats Usyk in the rematch as if it’s a foregone conclusion. Crazy talk.
Give Usyk the credit he deserves. Fury has always been overhyped.
Dubai will get knocked out
By Israel or Moscow or Washington DC? China perhaps?
Very good Observations 🧠
As someone who grew up with a Mother who was diagnosed Biploar (called Manic Depression at the time) and also have an ex diagnosed with Bipolar, I feel I am qualified to say that people with this condition can be very very very hard work
These two are a joke hate on aj all the
Time Dubois headbutted his way to a win before and has been dropped loads aj will finish him but u melts won’t give him credit when he does even tho you rate Dubois
Excited to watch the match.
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊
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Dubois vs AJ is a great fight.
The fact that its for a world title is a complete joke when both men LOST to Usyk.
Paper champion whoever wins.
IBF devaluing their own belt here is insane.
This is what will probably happen just to mess things up.
Daniel Dubois beats AJ.
Fury beats Usyk, and we don't get Fury vs AJ until they are both 40 years old and past it.
No thoughts on BAM Rodriguez fight really?
Listening to these two, you would think that Fury had beaten Usyk easily and the rematch was just a formality that needed getting out of the way before Fury vs AJ could happen.
At this point why take any of Simon’s predictions seriously, he’s approaching David Haye tier.
He's worse than Haye. Simon's crappy predictions extend to outside boxing as well. He thought England were going to have a good tournament at the Euros and thinks they'll reach the final.
@@joewhite22mate I'm scottish and I can say they have every chance of reaching the final as they have an easy passage. They have been woeful but not as bad as us.
"You can smell pound notes and so can everybody else so fair play"
Wasnt quite as kind before your boss got involved was you
What !! Yes Daniel is Dangerous for sure but come on !! AJ has far more ring IQ and Daniel is going to find it really hard to set up a knock out punch not saying it’s impossible after all this is heavyweight boxing but the odds are heavily stacked against him
Who's DDD knocked out?
Fury doesn’t want to fight AJ. His fans certainly don’t want to see that fight, and for good reason. Tyson’s BS is unraveling fast!!
Huw have you ever considered stand up comedy?? I think you'd be brilliant 🤣
@@emmettoliver Thank you 👍
@HuwEvans. your welcome mate
@@emmettoliver *you’re
@HuwEvans. ah an English language professor to boot..
Nice one simon jordan, put frank warren and tyson fury on spot 👌
The way it’s all being lined up in Saudi for AJ v Fury doesn’t fill me with confidence Usyk is going to have a very good shot at winning on points next time out. I hope it’s not the case, but I wouldn’t be shocked if there were some controversial score cards in the rematch
Joshua fanboys were crying that he would get robbed against Fury. Usyk got the decision after landing 13 more punches than Fury and a knock down. Usyk nearly got robbed twice against Joshua
Is it’s true and a Dr is say that about bipolar the board he is licensed with have some questions to ask?
Dubois is a real live dog, as I explain.
Kinda messed up to casually put that out there guys, PTSD no matter how many numbers it gets you. Done with talksport.
Just watch as soon as AJ folds Dubois, they’ll say Dubois didnt come to win. They said the sane about Wallin and Ngannou but as soon as AJ won it was because they didn’t stick it on him, not that AJ didnt allow them to.
At what stage does the “Tyson underestimated him” narrative disappear?
Does every boxing podcast have to be about the presenter and their spats with the promoters / fighters? Talk about the subject matter and not personal feuds / relationships with the participants
It's Simon's narcissism.
Lads, Tyson was enjoying himself. As a fan of his sence day dot, it was frustrating seeing have soooo much fun.... Next time Tyson will smash Usyk within 5 rounds .... Up the Tyson 👊👊
*since
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All this positive talk of Warrington he got absolutely banjoed by wood
AJ beats them all
Usyk has the engine, drive and more importantly the conviction to take as many as it takes to land his shots. He does this all the time knowing that once he hits you with seemingly innocuous set up shot it's only a matter of time. Has Fury still got the stamina- debatable. Does AJ have the heart - probably, but Usyk has the greater will to win out of the three of them, I don't see either of them beating him.
Jordan still doing mental gymnastics to convince himself Joshua is still shot.
Joshua fanboys were saying that he's back after Pulev fight in 2020. Then Joshua got humiliated by Usyk twice and went 12 rounds with factory worker Franklin
Ill ask again, how is he granted a boxing licence with BP, who diagnosed it, what year was he diagnosed?
It's a load of crap. He got popped for taking nandralone and ducked the Klitschko rematch under the guise of "mental health". Man's a con artist.
Tyson Fury hasn't convincingly won a fight since December 2022. That was a fight against Chisora. His last fight where he looked like he was the best heavyweight in the world, was in 2020 in the FuryWilder2 fight.
By the time the rematch happens with USYK that will have then 4 years ago.
I think for sure the British media are so badly wanting to have a "generational" great in our ranks, however the reality is, the only one looking like a great right now is USYK.
USYK however is only human, so there is a chance Fury could possibly beat him, but it'll have to be because Fury has somehow managed to land a heavy shot to either KO USYK right away or be all over him enough that the fight gets stopped. Purely on boxing ability alone, I think USYK is very much the best there is in the heavyweight scene and given their last fight I think if anyone looks like the closest to being KO'd in the rematch its going to be Fury.
Listening to these 2 talk at 21 minutes is truly mindblowing ; like 2 blokes sitting in a mental home. Truly absurd that they still push Usyk to the side like he's irrelevant ; HE:S WON 3 OUT OF 3 AGAINST YOUR BOYS!!!!
When you draw back all the BS AJ has only failed to get the better of one boxer in his whole career and thats the great Uysk, this is a guy who has without question the best CV in the division and still people are questioning this man? I don’t understand it at all, he will show Dubois serious levels make no mistake about that.
I take it you haven't seen Anthony Joshua first loss ?
@@silverfox2957 I take it you can’t read? 😭
Anthony Joshua ducked Undisputed with Wilder, ducked Fury and ran from his WBA mandatory Luis Ortiz.
Anthony Joshua was terrified of Wilder's right hand. He admitted on Toe2Toe podcast in October 2017 that he would avoid Wilder for 3 years or longer. AJ said, "Wilder has been a pro longer than I have been boxing" "Nobody can rush my career"😂
Anthony Joshua ducked Fury twice last year to fight Franklin and Helenius for no belt and less money
You can't unseat AJ easily.
Yeah just like you said Joshua would beat him😂
How many fights in a row can we use the “fury underestimated _____” excuse?
Is it me or is it wen Simon Jordan says anything Spencer just repeats it again only in less educated words
Has Fury actually been diagnosed with bipolar disorder? Has anybody seen any medical documentation? Let's see some evidence first, then we go down that line of enquiry. Until then, just judge and critique the individual as a boxer.
They've said ajs last 3 fights have been dangerous fights and hes ko'd them 🤣🤣
Nobody said AJs last 3 were dangerous 😂 Hes about to have a 5th warm up 🤦♂️ He's just a gimmick
Dubois is not a champion , Tyson Fury is not a champion .
A rarer breed Simon is an UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD. That man is Usyk , and has beat them all , AK TWICE!!!!. Start remembering that and stop the disrespect
Really? AJ v Fury? I’m not even convinced Fury makes the Usyk rematch. However the money is there and that is what makes the world go round. Joshua says he’ll fight Fury whatever the rematch result is and I know he really wants that fight. Fury however really wants the £ as do Eddie and Frank. So maybe you boys are right and it will happen, if not we all know who the ducker is.
I disagree that Fury was enjoying the Usyk fight, who enjoys being outboxed for eight rounds? On Joshua becoming three times, I predicted that over a year ago when you were having your doubts, I’m going to upgrade that now to this, Anthony Joshua will acheive three time world champion status and he will go on to achieve Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World. Believe you me it will happen.
How long before Spence say’s stylistically?
Dubois isn't going to get much on AJ before AJ clocks him, and he's going to on oxygen, like Ngannou. DDD=Daniel Dubois Down. He ends this either on his knees again, or on his back. He is not a good fighter. Even Hrgovic was basically hitting him, every single time he tried, and AJ hits. Really hits.
Franklin did hit him back i think they've forgot aj was a bloody mess in that fight you dont get that way by not getting hit
AJ seems to struggle against small HW but big men he irons out
LOOKING FORWARD TO WATCHING BOXING IN UK WITH REAL CROWD ATMOSPHERE ELECTRIC ⚡⚡⚡⚡
Does DDD even have a jab lol? Bricktop bangs on about it all the time but I only ever see him throwing hooks and uppercuts
Joshua sparks Dubois his defence is practically non existent.
Love to see few Brits fighting for number 2
Has simon always had that lisp when pronouncing S's and T's ? Iv only just noticed it.
“Dubois’s in my gym and I see him” - it’s not your gym Spencer it’s the gym that you use. You don’t own it🤦♂️🤦♂️
Usyk is for sure the king of boxing right now. The jump from cruiserweight to heavyweight is much more drastic than Canelo moving up in weight throughout his career.
The only thing comparable would be Crawford beating Canelo.
Aj called out fury time ago even wen aj was champ before 1st usyk fight
AJ fan boys spent years telling us Dubois is a bum quitter but wont accept AJ having a 5th warm up 🤦♂️
I personally think aj gets rid of dubois inside 4 rounds to easy to hit with the straight right which is arguably ajs biggest weapon
If Joshua detonates Dubois is absolutely fucked. Such a biased lens of looking at things
Warrington has took too much damage and sounds like it don't like this fight dangerous, good luck to both
Make you right Simon ,they don't like it put on them
I don't Usyk will turn it up like he does evey time he needs to
“Blue sky thinking”🤦♂️🤢
Simon makes me sick. Just a pathetic Fury fan boy
How red man with glasses can say that hrgovich was lucky against demsey mckean?
Both of these boys picking Fury to beat uysk, what are these guys smoking
Usyk schooled AJ TWICE, Dubois technically beat Usyk with that body shot
Sorry but 3 time champions aren't becoming that rare in these plastic tragic modern times.
Problem for Dubois is that he’s slow and defends with his face.. Not ideal to be facing Joshua really..
Usyk will clobber Fury yet again.. But it will be closer this time IMO 🤷🏻♂️
Massive disrespect to Usyk. 😮
AJ knocks Dubois out inside 5 rounds max.
Spencer will always say that Fury will beat Usyk even if Usyk beats him 4 times in a row.
They just never learn! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 usyk is levels above fury and will prove it once again in December!! Remember before the first fight the disrespect these 2 gave usyk! Nobody and I mean nobody will beat this man!
Levels above?😂 Usyk landed 13 more punches than Fury. He won because of the Knock down
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma yeh it was the Knockdown that done it!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 nothing to do with usyk winning 9 of the 12 rounds! Usyk is on a different planet to fury! He’s proven it time and again and will do so again in December. That’s if the fraud fury manages to get show up for the rematch!
Boxing is the most "fickle" sport out there by a country mile
All roads lead to Fury getting peppered up against Usyk (again). AJ Dubois will probably be a closer affair. I know you're trying to push sales but realistically the top three of the current era are 1) Usyk 2) Fury (Probably) 3) AJ (Probably).