Reasons Why You Would Leave Thailand
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Loving all the comments. Also, for anyone who cares, my fiance is from Iran and we've been waiting a long time for her visa to the US. Just FYI to give perspective on where we can and cannot be together.
I wish the best for you and your fiance on your move to the states one day. Our previous president's blanket ban on Iranians sure upended many people's lives. I hope everyone is aware of the injustices she has and will continue to face just because she is from inconvenient country or from a certain religion. But let's be real, homeboy placed a ban on Muslims but had to revise the legislation several times so it wouldn't be struck down by the courts. So here we are, Iranians are banned for this reason.
@@ellvtv2314 While we didn't fall in that catigory because my wifes a thai citizen with canadian permanent residency due to previously being maried to a canadian, because of Trumps policies it was much harder to go through the process even for us. Normally we could have traveled back and forth before the first greencard but were advised not to by our attorney because of the trump crap. Because of this our house has sat vacant for most of the time since dec. 2018.
Took over 2 years for the first green card and we submitted for the 10 year greencard a year ago.....
the process is utter HS
@@ellvtv2314 Thank you!
Suggest using coconut oil in Thailand
The US has the same thing. If you have a H1B work visa and it expires, you have 10 days to leave the US. However, there is a chance to get an extension for a total of 60 days till you have to leave. Every country has these laws were you have to leave after a work visa is over, it might be more or less days.
I spent six years living in Thailand on a tourist visa. During this time, I began dating a Thai woman who I later married. Right from the beginning, we discovered that it was considerably easier for her (as my girlfriend) to obtain a US visa and stay with me in the United States than it was for me to stay in Thailand while constantly dealing with visa extensions.
Once she had a six-month US visa, the process was straightforward for her. She didn't have to worry about 90-day reporting, extensions, or any other complexities. When we finally got married, I was optimistic, thinking that my visa situation in Thailand would become more manageable, and I could stay without hassles. However, we soon realized that this wasn't the case. I still had to renew my Thai marriage visa annually, which involves the same amount of paperwork required for my wife to obtain a US green card. The key difference is that she can now stay in the US indefinitely and is even on the path to becoming a citizen, while I continue to renew my Thai marriage visa each year and go through the 90-day reporting process.
All in all, we've found that it's far more straightforward for a Thai citizen, whether married or not, to stay in the US than it is for a US citizen to stay in Thailand. Unfortunately, I don't have the financial means to afford a Thai elite visa, I'm not old enough to retire there, and I don't fit into any of the other visa categories available.
100%
I'm glad that it's hard to immigrate to Thailand. That's what keeps it homogenous. That's why I want to move there even though I'll be an extreme minority.
It's too easy to legally or illegally immigrate to Western countries and it's destroying the Western culture.
you wont be THAT much of a minority. Just left BKK am now in Tokyo. The amount of expats in Bangkok vs Tokyo is night and day
Thailand not Canada
I appreciate your perspective on immigration and cultural preservation, but I'd like to offer a different viewpoint. Thailand indeed has immigration regulations, but it's worth noting that Thailand is one of the world's top tourist destinations, welcoming around 40 million tourists annually before the COVID pandemic. Consequently, you wouldn't necessarily feel like an extreme minority in Thailand. Foreigners are quite prevalent in many parts of the country due to its thriving tourism industry.
While Thailand may have strict immigration laws in place, the reality is that it still sees a significant influx of visitors, which contributes to its cultural diversity. In major Thai cities, you will encounter foreigners almost everywhere you go. The only exceptions might be remote areas like northeastern Thailand (Isan), primarily focused on agriculture and less frequented by tourists.
Furthermore, it's important to acknowledge the substantial number of mixed-race couples in Thailand, often involving white males and Thai wives. This diversity in relationships and backgrounds further adds to Thailand's multicultural landscape.
In essence, the narrative that Thailand's tough immigration laws lead to homogeneity doesn't fully align with the reality of a country that embraces a rich tapestry of cultures, thanks in part to its thriving tourism and the relationships formed within its diverse community.
What western culture is being destroyed? Its not hard to move to thailand. Maybe you haven't been on the app. "youtube" where there are thousands of expats in thailand living the dream. HAHA
Immigration is "Destroying the Western Culture?" Sounds like you've drank the Deep South Alt Right koolaid.
Can you elaborate on what part of the "Western Culture" that is being destroyed?
It would be interesting to interview him again after one year living in UAE.
dude is gonna come runnin' back to BKK for sure
@@fs5775 Lol. Everyone ends up back in Thailand eventually.
If he thinks Thailand heat and humidity are terrible just wait until he arrive in Dubai 😅😂
@@Kingofthehill84And the air quality, which is generally appalling. Moving from Bangkok to Dubai for air quality is bizarre. Geneva maybe, but not the UAE
Says a lot for a country when one of your biggest problems with it is the time difference from your home country. 👍🏽
no joke ... huge loss of respect when someone soys out and complains 'I can't keep track of muhhhh sportsball teams' .... bro probably misses the goy slop as well
In regards to the food, there are tons of healthy meal prep places, and you can easily find avocado oil and organic ingredients here. You just have to shop at the right grocery stores.
He just being ignorant 😅😂
That is the problem. Normally in Sydney where I came from you can find healthy/ organic food almost everywhere. You don’t have to go to a specific store to find them
@@JulietW it’s not a problem. There are a billion ways to order organic food almost instantly to your door, including Paleo Robbie. Grab has tons of healthy options too. It’s a complete non-issue among myself and all of my friends living here. The only reason I could see it being an issue is if you were on a tight budget.
Love that phrase "it's a big world, why stay in one place?" Great interview!
I like the honesty in this video. Thailand has its positives but having stayed there for extended periods it’s has just as many negatives. All depends on the individual.
I can agree with you there buddy. A mentor of mine moved to Hawaii from Milan Italy. He lived there for a few years and ended up moving to Southern California. He told me that you can't move away from your problems but it doesn't hurt for a short time. Vacations are meant to be short term.
My best friend moved to Hawaii and after a year moved back to southern california because he hated living in Hawaii. Ever since though, he goes there yearly for vacation.
The same reasons you come to Thailand end up being the same reasons you leave.
Sweet video. Thanks, man!
I lived in Thailand for 2 year from 2004-2006. I am from the SF Bay Area too where I currently reside. I was an English and Math teacher and lived in Songkhla, Suratthani, and Chiang Rai. I really enjoyed being immersed in the culture - it really is a charming and pleasant culture. Thais are very kind people.
The reason I left was because it was limited what I can do there at the time. These days there are many more options including being a Digital Nomad which intrigues me.
One of the challenges I experienced there was staying productive. It's very easy to get off track and socialize like the nightlife, etc. If I had to live there again I'd live somewhere up North where I would be more immersed in the local culture and away from foreign areas ( but not too far so I can get a dose of it when needed).
Now I'm reconsidering moving back, but will probably go to Vietnam instead.
I clicked the thumb-up until I saw the destination Vietnam. 😁
@@topgammar3763 LOL! What's wrong with VN?
Yeah, I couldn't ever live in the bay area. Its just too wet and too congested. I see you mountain bike, thats cool. One of the things I will miss is cycling when we retire in Thailand. I literally ride out of my garage and 20 minutes later I'm on PCH riding my bike and I can do it like 280 days a year and its dry and warm.
I can drive 15 minutes and mountain bike with incredible views. Thats gonna be tough in thailand. lol
Nam sucks bro. They don’t like Americans. Better off in Thailand. At least they will attempt to take care of you in every way.
vietnamese arent foreign-language friendly.
Excellent discussion.
Been watching you for a while now, me and the wife have been planning a move to Thailand and I hope to come someday. But I feel there’s a deeper message on your channel as well which is finding purpose and happiness no matter where you live in the world, I think it’s something we all struggle with regardless of our financial or geographic situation
Some call it the location cure. Just because you move doesn't mean you will be happy because wherever you go, there you are.
Dont come here
Have you given CAMBODIA a thought? The country has been developing rapidly, but it is still cheap and modern.
I think Dubai is an ok place for a couple years if you're able to leverage something you're working in an save money as its tax free. Its also generally a very safe place and very easy to get around and get things done generally.
I lived there for 18 months 6 yrars ago and the air quality is absolutely horrible. The UAE regularly appears in top 10 lists for poorest air quality globally so mentioning air quality of Bangkok as a reason to move to Dubai doesn't make a lot of sense to me to be honest.
Other than that here's really no comparison with Thailand. I mean its got absolutely no soul, no real culture to speak of, horrible weather half the year ( or all of the year if you appreciate rain / natural lushness)
It feals artificial because it is. I mean just look at Dubai and what's around it - or not around it more accurately - as you fly in. That's if you can see it through the dusty smog.
Don't know why Elon Musk wants to set up shop on Mars he could just move to Dubai
Good post, the AQI in the Middle East is horrible, as are India and Pakistan.
thats the only downside to alot of SE Asian countries is that its very hard to become a citizen and have equal rights to stay long term/residency as a 'foreigner'.. unless retired... properly immigrating to there is not so easy now.. one big upside to the west is getting citizenship of uk or usa is not as complicated.. but maybe that has up and downsides in itself..
Great content 🙏🏽🇹🇭
All sounds reasons.
1. Thai food and SEA countries in general are full of seed oils, sugar, carbs. Note that you can order grass fed beef from NZ and Australia, same price as western countries from some shop in bangkok, just look at google map. Super great quality.
2. Pollution could be a problem for some.
3. Timezone, if you have clients or trade during US time, that's hell waking up in the middle of the night.
I hope to hear from him again in 2 years in DUBAI to share his experience. Cost not gonna be the same compared to Thailand.
He may be back to Thailand on Elite visa after 6 months in Dubai. 😂
@@topgammar3763 😂. Good luck with the new price, it's a robbery. Old packages were a steal. There is no Street food culture in dubai(at least not like in thailand where you can walk out of your condo and find food everywhere), so expect full grocery shopping (with western price) or pricey restaurant.
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Actually, the food thing is a little bit interesting since I try to eat way more proteins similar to Chuando Tan. I the PHs I regularly bought rotisserie chicken, Big Macs, fruits and salads to get a healthy diet with a much higher content of lean proteins. I also found boiled eggs in 7Eleven there and I buy raw and fresh eggs at home and just micro them 30 sec to get them freshly made when I add them to my meals to up the lean protein content. ..., like doing similar stuff there, perhaps from the supermarket's Hot foods section/Grab-and-go section, Ready-to-eat section, Gourmet foods section?
I’m a new subscriber. Saw you on Lilly’s life video. Great video.
Was curious about the food thing so glad for that part. I’m a bodybuilder, so spending more on my food than my rent might be a problem.
I worked from Thailand twice in the last year. I work second shift in the US so I had to be up in the middle of the night. My hours just got changed in the US to 6pm -2am. Those would be great hours in Thailand. Maybe, maybe.
It is always sad to lose a good friend, especially one with such great vibes. Good luck Evan.
Thanks!
Living in Thailand its no cheaper than living in most western countries if you want a comparative lifestyle. It's hard to live healthy in Thailand. And now they are changing the tax laws too, im sure this is playing a part in the decision for a trader as it is for me. I had to leave Bangkok because the pollution was so bad the first few months of this year.
What is going on with taxes and trading?
I wouldn't say the cost of living is the same as the West but it's not cheap for sure if you want to live a good lifestyle. You can live a good lifestyle with $2000-3000 USD per month in Bangkok but you can barely get by with that money in Canada.
You can live very comfortable off 3K USD a month in Canada if you live in a province like AB or SK and not in a major city, if it wasnt for housing/rent prices 3K USD would fund a nice lifestyle in a city in Canada.@@sartajaziz5930
Market opening is great. Market close, not so great. I've just saddled myself with 11 AM video conferences twice per week... on Arizona time. Ugh.
Good luck Evan!!
USA stock trading while in Thailand - any double taxing concerns (USA & Thailand). Also what brokerage firm do you use?
I pay my US taxes. Most countries recognize that and won't double tax. I trade with IB. Best broker in the world.
Mr. Forrest Lee, may i ask you how you obtained your visa? I assume your occupation is vblogger, the channel is your company. How and what type of visa can an American like me obtain for Thailand?
I’m married (to a Thai), run a business, pay income tax, corporate tax, social security tax and collect a ton of vat, and it’s still a pain in the ass dealing with immigration… We will leave eventually.
In the grocery stores, are organic products readily available? Organic chicken and high grade beef ie USDA grade? If they do offer organic, I would assume it’s very costly.
Organic foods can be found in stores like Lotus, Tops, Gourmet Market, and others in Thailand. However, they tend to be more expensive compared to the prices in the US. Interestingly, most of the organic products I encountered on Thai store shelves were imported from Western countries, including the US. Notably, I have rarely come across organic chicken in Thai grocery stores. To obtain organic chicken, one usually has to source it from private farms, which will also be costly.
The availability of grass-fed and grass-finished beef is extremely limited in Thailand. This scarcity is primarily due to Thai preferences for grain-fed beef, which they find more appealing in terms of taste. There is generally limited awareness about healthy food choices, which explains why most supermarkets primarily stock grain-fed beef from Thailand, as well as imports from countries like Japan, New Zealand, Australia, and the US.
In terms of cost, I observed that all types of beef tend to be more expensive in Thailand compared to the US. There's a significant reason behind the fact that most Thais seldom consume beef-it's simply not within their budget. It's usually the Thai elites who can afford to indulge in a great-tasting steak that costs anywhere from $50 to $100. The majority of Thais opt for pork as it's the most affordable commercially available meat option.
Thai here , yes beef is expensive in Thailand as our staple are pork and chicken. In the past we considered eating big animal is a bad Karma so most conservative and religious try avoiding them.
@@scb625 @VidNibs thanks for your replies. Looking forward to relocating there oneway soon. I understand food is reasonably inexpensive but I like to eat healthier for the most part.
I don’t trust Thai organic. I guess the business can “buy” the organic logo based on how corrupt it is here 😂
use coconut oil in Thailand
Kind of funny how much I agree. Working US hours sucked while in Thailand. Luckily my hours were pretty flexible. I prefer a high protein diet too, the price of beef and protein powder in Thailand was always a problem for me - the gyms were also relatively expensive compared to the US.
Bangkok the gyms are expensive from what I have seen but very nice. Pattaya has cheaper gyms that reflect the price. But, I can’t be around that all the time.
Definitely agree on sugar being everywhere and red meat super expensive.
great vid
Dudes super laid back lol not salty at all
Is there a demand for teaching English in Thailand?? Are you certain that beef is more expensive in Thailand?? It is very expensive in US now. When you got into your conversation it almost seemed when your friend realized the conveniences he had second thoughts. Again thanks for sharing.
Hey Forrest can I get a consult, I’m in Bangkok staying in Soi 20. I think I got swindle with my hotel.
Cheer up Forrest. In the next five years there will be soo many of us old boomers flooding over there you will have more new friends than you can count. You can count on seeing my smiling face in about two years when I retire.
100% correct, but if you aren't moving because you can't afford to live in the usa, I suggest moving to Orange county California within 30 minutes of the beach and traveling to thailand for vacations.....
there is a digital nomad visa in malaysia. tax free for 2 years
*i never felt happier than leaving Thailand. Dealing with Thai ppl is insanely nerve racking!!*
I found that Thai people are racist to brown people. Not all but a lot.
Someone had to day it! Cheers.
True there is much to love but......there are things that are very unfair in Thailand for foreigners. Yet when we lived in the USA my Thai wife was immediately given 6 month visa & SS# & work permit. After that she was given 2 year visa (no 90 day BS etc) then in her 3rd year in USA she was give full US citizenship. I sometimes feel Thailand could at least reciprocate a bit & at the very least allow a couple year visa without 90 day BS TM30 etc etc Also like your friend said food especially street food is unhealthy to the max in Thailand...But we cook at home so no prob. But he is right the oils the sugar etc
So true. Similar experience here. My Thai wife and I came to realize that it was notably simpler for her (when she was my girlfriend) to secure a US visa and join me in the United States compared to my efforts to maintain my stay in Thailand, which involved constant visa extensions.
Once she obtained a six-month US visa, her journey was relatively uncomplicated. She didn't grapple with concerns related to 90-day reporting, extensions, or other intricate procedures. When we eventually tied the knot, I harbored optimism, believing that my visa situation in Thailand would streamline, allowing me to stay hassle-free. Regrettably, we soon discerned that this wasn't the case. I still had to renew my Thai marriage visa annually, entailing nearly the same amount of paperwork required for my wife to acquire a US green card. The fundamental disparity is that she now enjoys the privilege of indefinite stay in the US and even embarks on the path to citizenship, while I persist in renewing my Thai marriage visa each year and navigating the 90-day reporting process.
In conclusion, our experience highlights that it's markedly more straightforward for a Thai citizen, regardless of marital status, to reside in the US compared to the challenges faced by a US citizen seeking to maintain residency in Thailand.
@@VidNibs Exactly ! 👏
Buy a million dollar condo and your life will be much easier, all the Chinese are doing it
they dont want you to be a citizen , dont you get that?
You guys got it made in Thai land. I live in Los Angeles, commute to OC to work. 120 miles round trip every single day. Work 10 hrs shift, 3 hrs workout, 2 hrs drive. That’s a life.
I’m from Philippines and I don’t wanna offend any people from Thailand here my experiences when I only like stayed in Thailand on 2022 first is communication I had a hard time understanding my Uber driver thankGod he was able to know which hotel I was heading to second is visa it’s so hard getting a visa In Thailand
Agreed. Thais speak zero english
Not accurate at all re. food. I cook both in the US and in BKK except on weekends.
Beef price is about the same, chicken and pork are cheaper in Thailand. And if you are serious about your health, you shouldn’t eat fried food ANYWHERE.
Vegetables and fruit are like 1/3 the price in the US.
Eating out at comparable restaurant is exponentially cheaper in BKK.
BTW, I’m from NOVA area.
❤ that policy in Thailand… if you don’t have a good reason to stay there you can’t stay. Wish they have that policy in the US.
Depending on your home country, coming to America even for a short VISIT can be near impossible legally. A friend is Thai, speaks perfect English, highly educated, roots in Thailand (family, etc) and couldn't even come over to the US for a three-week WORK conference!! Nope. They (US immigration) wouldn't allow it because....they were afraid he might STAY in America thus, visa denied.
@@beverlyweber4122 oh yes.. that’s right… I meant legally. It’s much easier to come and stay in the US illegally. ☺️
Except for mafia and criminals, they can come and hide here
@@1whoQuestionsYep! Legally the States is a very difficult country to come to if your not from a G7 country. For most its hard to go there even as tourist. But illegally its seems fairly easy.
@@RetireandGo you are so lucky. I’m jealous. Various profiteering groups has turned US into garbage.
Biggest reason I got the 20 year Thai Elite was so I didn't have to worry about all the immigration nonsense. It was worth the cost for me.
How much is it?
can you do a video about whether digital nomads whom live in Thailand for > 6 months will owe Thai Taxes starting in 2024?
one important thing not talked about here: Dubai is 2x if not 3x times (if you are going out to ce la vi every night) more expensive than BKK. No one wants to move to a places 2 times more expensive. Something he's not telling us...
100%.Also rent has to be paid in full annually and cost of housing is huge if you want to live in the Marina / business bay/jlt.
UAE sucks, period. He's got some wake up calls coming his way...@@RingoSG
why ?
straight forward talking! you must cook at home use good oil..... olive oil or coconut oil. air pollution in thailand ... yes, true.
It is American food all over Bangkok. Mc Donald in every street
3:45 Time difference Bangkok to Dubai is 3 hours. Is that worth moving to UAE for?
3 hours difference during the middle of night if he has to wake up at 2-3am is huge. He just works until 12am then go to bed instead of waking up and messing his whole circadian rythme.
@@RingoSG I guess if he has a partner or kids that is relevant. If not, staying up late and waking around noon works fine for me, especially in hot/rainy season.
This cycle also matches business hours in Europe/US, while providing enough local sunshine.
@@viktor.egelund it works perfect if you don't mind being a night owl. Being a early bird and having to wake up at night is a huge hassle. I prefer do all my stuff in the morning, afternoon and chill/sleep night. I guess it's just preference. But I can see why he doesn't like the timezone. I hope he gonna enjoy Dubai. It's a whole different world in term of cost of living.
why not portugal? even less.
@@RingoSG I am from Norway and appreciate the Thai culture. Dubai has a lifestyle and energy I find unappealing.
There are numerous nice places in Europe he could go, but perhaps not so easy long-term on a US passport
Rich guys complaining about the cost, when everything else in TH is way less expensive?
Must be a jew
6:45. Paleo Robbie and plenty good restaurant/delivery options in Thailand.
Have you seen the body composition of an average Middle Eastern male?
100%. Bunch of places where you can buy beef from NZ / Australia.
@@RingoSG Just don't check the price of Sunwarrior Protein or blueberries. 🙂
@@viktor.egelundis sunwarrior a protein supplement ? Super pricey ?
@@RingoSG Yes. It was an example on how imported premium products are priced high in Thailand.
The list of imports is long and can affect cost of living if you prefer those things. I choose to eat meat for protein, local being fine.
@@viktor.egelund you can find 450 baths / kg ground beef from Australia- ribeye NZ 530 baths / kg from beef shop in bangkok. It's around the same price I found in western Europe. If buy from tops market/ supermarket , it's way too expensive. Even paleo robbie, pretty pricey.
Doesn't make sense to leave thailand if he wants to travel. Its like saying I'm moving to thailand from southern california because it sucks here. He's leaving because he has to. I'm planning on moving to thailand beause its cheap...lol Thats first and formost. If I could move an hour away and get the same value, I'd do that. When we move to thailand, the plan is to do what he says he wants to do. Cost of living in Dubai is almost 2 times what the cost of living is in BKK. Even more than what it is for us in Chiangmai. There's no arguing with this guy on why he's leaving, he's doing it because he has to, all the other stuff he said is useless except for him to rationalize. Good luck.
If the goal is to travel, saving $500 per month on your home living expenses is going to help you fund your travel.....
Thanks for the video, I don't have to agree with a video to get value out of it. Keep them coming.
Dubai is almost 2 times what the cost of living is in BKK - exactly. they didnt talk about the most important part.. try going out in ce la vi in dubai and see the prices compared to NYC
at least in NYC the quality meets the prices. in Dubai, everything is inauthentic - copied/pasted from places like NYC@@alexandertraveler510
Awesome story, glad he can go and choose where he wants to live. Please promise me you will interview him again in a few months and give us an update on how he is doing. Just starting to pump some money into the passive income machine that will give me an easier transition to retirement
Reason to leave … you don’t like heat and humidity! 😂
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Dubai: Heat and humidity is 💯 hotter 😂😅
I have stopped eating Thai food at least very minimally after I came for 1 month and left 8 ( eight ) kg heavier, The number one reason I would leave Thailand would be because I would be in my 70's (+) and would prefer somewhere where I can walk to get groceries and whatnot without driving myself.
Sincere interview.
Why do some comments show "contrived disapproval" ? You dont have to agree ! Just acknowkedge that people have different views.
To be kicked out of the country 1 week after end of contract sucks. 3 months would be reasonable.
If you're U.S. citizen, successful trading equity market with more than $500K capital gain per year and preferring New York time, I would take advantage of Puerto Rico Act 60 (0% capital gain tax). You can still visit other places or countries every year for 1-5 months. Why stuck in Thailand for long term? There are many places to visit around the world.
The reason why people from all nationality like to stay long term here is because Thailand is very affordable paradise country like no other. Thailand has one of the best melting pot cultures, all ethnicity/ religious are open with open arms, Fun nightlight, amazing beach, beautiful mountain, beautiful tropical nature, very diverse Asian tasty foods and the best fun modern jungle city in the world. Whether if you're a single man or a family man? You will enjoy your time staying in the Land of smile.😊
dubai and portugal both has no tax.
Still have to pay my US taxes in Dubai. But yeah, PR is tempting. Will have to convince my bride :)
Puerto rican natives don't like that. Its a predatory practice. Puerto Ricos no Thailand. Who thinks of being in thailand, "being stuck" thats funny.
6:55 It's not sugar.. looks like sugar but it's MSG even worse 🤣 But it tastes good
Your shirts are matching again. Just like couples in Korea do and get matching outfits.
Hahahahaha.
All the things you said plus, I am over 50 and I don't want to put up with the nonsense of a visa renual every year. Money in the bank . Now taxes.. I left and moved to Colombia and love it here. The time difference is the same and I can trade at my leisure. Visa is easy if you have the money and don't have to put it in the bank to qualify. I lived there for 14 years and I kept my home in the US. Most all of the expats I met were very unhappy there. After the new wears off.
Love Colombia. Have plans to move there but I need to figure out how to make an income. I work remotely but my job can only be done from within Canada. Can you make $3000 USD per month trading ?
Nice! Colombia is fantastic!
Bro I understand that you feeling difficult about problems with hard to extend your visa but you have to understand that Thailand is also like your neighbours next door we finding difficult stop all the drug cartle to exporting drug out of Thailand. If Burma manufacturers ice Laos is the drugs cartle and also the land where criminal around the world try to come to order the drug I hope you understand if they make it easy for visa more crime syndicate will make it easy for them.
UAE has many weird laws and harsh punishment. Be careful.
he's a white dude with us passport. bro can do no wrong in UAE where his white privilege goes Very Far
Forrest, We need an update:
Bench, Squat and Deadlift. What are your PR?
-Your Bay Area Friends
Palm oil and bean oil.
Just bought the 20year elite visa for 1mil baht they increased the price to 5mil baht now lol
Need Lambo
part 2?
I know They have a Thai language visa & Muay Thai visa where you can stay a year to learn the language or Muay Thai. What does he mean it’s hard to stay there? Lmfao, everything he complained about doesn’t make sense. It tells me he doesn’t make a US income because even though beef and healthy foods are more expensive they do exist there and you can buy them. He just can’t really afford it. It sounds more like he is ready to go else where more than he actually has something to complain about as far as Thailand. The amount of Keto restaurants or keto food delivery services or food services for any diet you want in Bangkok is absurd. None of these complaints to me are valid.
@@Eoghan-hs2wz I have several friends there at the moment not having trouble doing border runs. You can do I believe 5 by air & 2 or 3 by land crossing. I don’t know a single person who has been denied entry back into Thailand.
@@Eoghan-hs2wz I’ll do whatever I want kid thanks
@@Eoghan-hs2wz true I do that a lot to and I see why it can be annoying. Thats a reality check. But, honestly I don’t see much of a difference between what they did then and now. Plenty of people still do border runs they just stay at those locations a little longer. Bali & the Philippines are great as well.
That is suck to be a day trader living massive time zone diff …
Thanks for empathizing!
Forest Lee should do a collaboration video with Paul Lee.
This guy gets it with the seed oil and sugar.
Thank you! I feel heard! :)
flies, floats or f....s it is cheaper to rent then own, learn early
The guy looks broken, tired and even if he has glasses he smiled for only 5 seconds in the whole video.
what do you think if he has to wake up at 3am everyday?
Lol. Yeah. Not sleeping for 2+ years has been rough on me. Some people can do it...but I'm delicate.
One foot in, one foot out.... I think you need to be all in when you relocate to a different country. Your whole life needs to adjust.
What happened to Forrest ?
That Elite visa was OK, now its gone up , of course
I haven’t even gone to Thailand yet and y’all already saying I have to move out 😂
Q how do good men cope with the sleeze in Thailand . I know someone who went and he said if he had to see one more old man with a young girl he’d throw up .. how do couples and decent men navigate this
OMG, yes. I wanted to bring this up but didn't want to offend anyone. You nailed it 100%.
where Lambo?
American beef is cheap, but full of growth hormones. Banned in many countries. My mom retires in Thailand 20 years ago from France. She loves Thailand. Of course, she is in her 80 and is not as demanding as your friend. You guys are still young, therefore, the needs are different.
Dubai is a lot cleaner than Bangkok for sure
We are really liking it here so far! SO CLEAN.
Spot on the food I just use coconut oil if u Can’t s avocado or cold pressed olive oil. Also spot on the trading I tried it and I couldn’t stay up.
My brother! Same!
Good content but do we really need all the pile on reasons to leave thailand? The guy is already leaving because his girl is kicked out and also he doesn't like working late.
Why was he even in thailand in the first place. This video reminds me of a guy saying He hate Ferrarri when he can barely afford a hyundai.
Do you work for a 'travel agency there' or something? No one piled on as you say. Actually he said he loved it there, except for a few reason for his own situation. Truth hurts for some people I guess.
@@tonyste12 he is only leaving because his girl has to. Then he says he isn’t into Thai food and lists a bunch of other things that’s wrong with Thailand. Yes he did the primitive thing which is when you can’t have something you rationalise why you didn’t want it anyway.
I love Thailand but where i live is a better place for me except for the cost of living which is why my plans to retire there are in place. I can’t argue a guys opinion but when he makes up things that don’t make sense I’m going to speak up. Weird you don’t see the obvious lack of logic in his story and chose to make up a reason I’m wrong without actually telling the truth about it. Let me ask you, are you his attorney? Seems like it.
@@fastj1962 LOL...I do believe his main reason is that his girl has to go, but that does not make what he says not true from his point of view. What is that he said that is not true? So according to you, everything is perfect there and nothing is wrong? No I am not his attorney. I am also going to speak up when I hear BS. Are you a Thai person and if not, are you simping, thinking that Thai girls will like you more?
@@tonyste12 @fastj1962 You guys are hilarious. Keep it coming!
@@ewstuber free entertainment, what is better than that. :)
i guess you guys don't enjoy driving, cause Thailand has some best driving roads on planet earth...
I agree with everything he said. I spent six years living in Thailand and recently moved back to the US. While I miss many things about Thailand, it has become increasingly expensive. I find that I spend less on groceries here in the US when I compare the quality of food and meat directly to my time in Bangkok.
Contrary to popular belief, Thai food isn't necessarily healthy. The exception is when it's prepared at home with quality ingredients, something my Thai wife excelled at. However, we discovered that cooking with quality ingredients is both easier and more cost-effective in the US. Thais often use vegetable oils extensively, which can be worse for their health than the excessive sugar and MSG they incorporate into every meal. The worst culprits are soybean, peanut, and canola oils, in that order. These are considered some of the least healthy cooking oils.
Carb overload is another issue, and in general, Thais lack awareness about healthy foods and lifestyles. If you follow diets like gluten-free or keto, living in Thailand can be challenging. Additionally, other luxuries like cars, houses, and electronics are all quite expensive in Thailand. Land prices are high, often ranging from 0.5 to 1 million USD. Import duties on luxury cars can reach 200-300%. The list goes on.
In terms of value for money, we found that we can afford a much nicer, well-constructed house in the USA compared to popular cities in Thailand like Chonburi, Hua Hin, Bangkok, or Chiang Mai. All in all, life is surprisingly more affordable for us in the USA. The only way I can see Thailand being less expensive is if we were to exclusively consume unhealthy street food, rent a basic apartment, and lead a minimalist lifestyle, similar to the average digital nomad. However, if you have ambitions, appreciate quality, and enjoy luxuries, then Thailand is not a great place to live by any stretch.
"if you have ambitions, appreciate quality, and enjoy luxuries, then Thailand is not a great place to live by any stretch."
I spend parts of the year in Zurich and Oslo. What place in the US do you suggest for comparable quality of life?
@@viktor.egelund It's a challenging question to tackle because everyone's expectations and context vary. I've had the opportunity to visit Zurich and vacationed multiple times in the northern regions of Italy, which serve as my primary reference points. Personally, I would steer clear of the major US cities like Los Angeles, New York, or Chicago, mainly because they tend to be overpriced and overcrowded.
If you're seeking a location with a diverse landscape, proximity to a major city, affordable housing, and all four seasons, I would recommend considering Denver, Colorado.
Right? Thailand is cheap, but I feel healthier shopping at Costco in the US and end up spending less on quality food in the US. Crazy how that works.
@@viktor.egelund I heard Idaho is good. That's where Forrest "domiciles."
@@viktor.egelund I LOVE Switzerland. If I could have chosen where to be born, probably would have picked Switzerland. But I love Florida in the US. That's were we will end up soon.
I could have sworn that this guy was a military contractor, aka mercenary for hire. Is this relocation just a ruse for him to engage in the military conflict? There is this war going on in Israel at the moment. The US can't send boots to the ground, but they can definitely have private contractors to do the dirty work.
Lol. No, I'm done with that life! All I do now is trade/invest!
I could've sworn that these guys cooked and cleaned during their alleged military service. Do you really see any combat material in them? I absolutely do not. Just look at the way they whine about things in the US and in Thailand. Whiners are losers.
@@jcsung761 Oh, yeah. Cleaned all the time in the Army. I don't miss that! Have a nice day. :)
Mexico is a better option for him 👍🏻
Bye Bye Evan! Have a good one @ Dubai!
AAAAAAH TAX HAVEN, ALLHAMDULLILAH, as the fellas there say.
plenty of hidden taxes there. cost of utilities for foreigners, cost of alcohol, Salik -- not as good of a deal as you think...
@@fs5775 I completely agree with you, bud, but I think that place is not too shabby if you establish your businesses there, concerning the benefits towards the acquiring of citizenship, and after you have acquired it, many of these hurdles vanish. I kind of like it business-wise, but Thailand is the bomb, personally.
Devil's advocate here... If rice and noodles is really that bad for you.. Asian would have been the ones with the obesity or heart disease pandemic .. In the Chinese language, "to have a meal" is literally translate as "eat rice". And almost every single Asian dish to my knowledge is filled with nothing but carbs, yet Asian countries account for 50% of the top 10 highest life expectancy countries in the world, and Thailand is surprisingly higher than the US. Also the medical standard in Asia could not be more advance than the west.. just for a second thought
Have you heard of "tofu" people : thin outside, fat under.
Fat liver/ diabetes 2. Prevalent in East Asia : SCorea, India ...
and obesity is gaining in Thailand. Mc Do does not help sure
I'm not a doctor...but I can just feel that rice and noodles turn straight to fat on me. Maybe it's genetic. Dunno.
@@ewstuber Guess what, it's voluntary to eat rice and noodles. In Thailand and worldwide.
@@viktor.egelund True. I'm weak and can't resist the delicious noodles!
@@robbatayaki5505 also, many people are 'thin' because if you have no food to eat, you stay thin. Another factor is that fat is 'frowned upon' in most Asian countries. But as the income grows and 'fast food' are taking hold, kids are becoming overweight in Asian countries too.
Finally someone is talking about how unhealthy Thai food is!! I am on Keto and I find it is extremely hard to find quality meat and keto friendly food in the supermarket. Dark Choc is 4-5 times more expensive than Australia. Look at the isles in Lotus and Tops-clean veggies are limited but there are multiple isles of packaged junk food full of sugar and seed oil. We are leaving Thailand soon and that is one of the reasons. Another thing is lack of footpath. You generally walk much less and it is against my life style!!
I'm on your side with this issue. In Tops, 80% of the food is packaged and TERRIBLE!
Sounds like your friends head has left already, just his heart needs to catch up, day trading for me makes TH a long term problem at this time in my life atm also completely understand, nocturnal lifestyle can be brutal on the body its not living
Instead of trading US Session, he can trade the London session which is perfect in terms of timezone in Thailand. 2pm - 10pm. But everyone has their own market and stocks to trade. I guess he kept his trading routine from when he was in USA.
You self contradict yourself, why should you leave the USA and now why should you leave Thailand. No country is going to be perfect.
If you are illegal you can just walk into America now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You’re welcome!
The older you get the less friends you have….😐
Dubai is very nice :)
The best reason to leave Thailand is in the end, nothing can be on your name, not land, not houses, not business.
You have a tendency to come across as a whiner. Like the video about living in the SF Bay area being of Asian descent and being called names? Please dude grow a pair.
He should have been more concerned with the homeless defecating in the streets of the sf bay…in other words, “my voters.”
American with a Thai wife here. Such a sweetheart ❤. Her mom died this year. She was 94. Thais are tough people and they live as long as Americans. I think that it’s the Nam Pla (fish sauce) that gets them eventually. Too much salt- diabetes and heart problems. Just like Americans. I think Thailand is a great place to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there. I’ve been there for the Thai new year in the hot season. So hot, especially if your body is not used to it. I’ve been there when the family home was flooded, too. My wife loves the cool weather in Idaho. The air pollution is very bad in Bangkok and other places. The government is horrible. Charging foreigners double or more for entry fees? That’s Thailand in a nutshell. 😂
This guy loves it being everything cheap in Thailand and he claims he's come from a privileged background in the US? Does anyone know what this guy was during his service? I bet he wasn't an officer, he just doesn't seem and doesn't sound like that kind of material. If he started his military career as a private, it's very much likely that whatever high school was the last school he went to. As far as I know most people from privileged families go to college unless they are so terribly bad at school works.
I was enlisted. High school drop-out. From middle class family. But did school after 12 hour shifts in my 20s. Now have a master's degree. Yeah, everyone from the US is very privileged. Thanks for watching!
@@ewstuber 'everyone from the US is very privileged' hahaha you made my day friend are you delusional or something?
@@ewstuber saying 'everyone from the US is very privileged' is just as preposterous as saying 'everyone from Thailand is very much underprivileged'
@@jcsung761 I think he was being sarcastic about the privileged thing. If not, then it was 'funny'.
@@jcsung761 Bro, 100% having a US passport is a HUGE privilege. My fiance is Iranian...she is sanctioned by most of the world and life is NOT easy for her. Everyone born in America is massively blessed and won the birth lottery. I'm not saying America is #1, but definitely in the top 5.
Forrest, for a guy who has espoused on how your buddies are just "existing" in the rat race that is the western world, why are you letting this friend walk away from Thailand? I thought it was easy peasy to move a family to Thailand like you had suggested in other videos. If they can't figure out how to stay in Thailand which they obviously want to do, then staying in Thailand is not as easy as you make it out to be.
My situation is just weird. Not old enough for a retirement visa. And I work for myself with no income from a job. If you have a real employer it's easier.
Just FYI. High season has nothing to do with the pollution, Forrest.
yup Pollution is 330 days a year there.