Anyone Who Marries a Divorced Woman Commits Adultery
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2023
- Confession exhortation at a covenant renewal service by Pr. Jack Shannon at Saint Athanasius Church on June 25, 2023 AD.
Note: We had audio issues the Sunday these exhortations and sermon were given. Pr. Jack rerecorded the exhortations and sermon at a later date.
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My wife committed adultery by remarrieing. She is trying to justify it anyway that she can. There is no justification for remarriage and living in adultery.
We're sorry to hear this, brother. But we are glad to hear that you are standing strong on the words of Christ. God bless.
@@SaintAthanasiusChurch what of the polygamy of the bible? Man is allowed to have as many partners as long as he marries them? What is a raped virgin woman to do? Marry her rapist as the old testament suggests?
What do you care what your ex wife did? She is no longer your wife. Just move on! And don't listen to any ding dong who would claim you are somehow "still married in God's eyes".
@@dh605xmarriage is until death. You're the ding dong
@@dh605x Why is that a "ding dong" if that what God intends and believes, and has revealed to His one true, Catholic Church?
That's true : but ' if her husband died, then it's not Adultery if she chooses to marry again.. the Bible states that clearly.
No such thing as growing apart. It’s called willful abandonment.
Can assure you that one grows apart once they discover their church-going spouse is a pedo.
I lost @30% of our meeting's attendees here when I taught marriage permanence over 10 years ago. Before that, I had not held such a view, but after examining the doctrine fully for the first time in depth, I had to accept the reality that the Lord clearly charged adultery against remarriage during the lifetime of the original covenant spouse. I've lost lots over this including friends, the acceptance of other local ministers and church folk.
What I gained was grief according to Eccl. 1:18 in knowing the Day of Judgment will not go well with those who are willing to take a remarriage after divorce to their graves. And further because it's endorsed and promoted and defended by those in the pulpits who have often officiated such remarriages as a model to their congregants.
Thank you for your faithful stand. Where are you a minister? We would like to hear from you if you'd be willing. contact@saintathanasiusfc.com
Have you considered what is written in Deuteronomy 24:1-4, 1 Corinthians 7:28 as well as Matthew 5:17-18, 12:7 before you coughed up nearly a third of your membership? I studied the marriage permanence doctrine in light of Scripture and came to a very different conclusion. Namely that is is a bunch of hooey, and that's putting it charitably.
That part about losing your salvation if you don't agree with them was a nice touch, though. "Why risk eternity in the Fiery Notheaven by getting remarried? We could be right, you know!"
I don't expect you to change course anytime soon, especially when doing so would imply coming to terms with a tragic error that cost you dearly in terms of friends and support.
@@dh605x I had held to the opposite view on DnR for 37 years after conversion, but then about 12 years ago, I did a long study of the relevant passages I arrived at marriage permanence.
So, what mostly led you to conclude it was a lot of hooey?
@@Jere616 The short answer is that the marriage permanence doctrine simply does not fit God's character, especially in cases where the marriage is broken beyond repair due to some serious sin. How does forcing celibacy on someone whose spouse has destroyed the previous marriage covenant supposed to be honoring to God?
I also never read Matthew 19, Mark 10, and Luke 16 as Jesus condemning any and all remarriage after divorce. Instead Jesus condemned the abuse of these things, particularly condemning dumping a faithful spouse just to get with someone you like better. That kind of thing is a cruel and dishonorable act that He rightly condemned as tantamount to adultery. But it does not automatically follow that He would condemn all remarriage after divorce in this way, especially in cases where the need to divorce was clear and compelling.
@@Jere616 I also made some observations about those who promote the marriage permanence view. This isn't specific to you or the author of this video, but it is common:
They have a way of being often wrong, but never in doubt about Scripture. I've heard them explain away Deuteronomy 24:1-4 as Moses giving the green light to something Jesus would never approve of. That's bonkers on its face. Moses issued the Law with the full endorsement of God - to suggest otherwise is nothing short of heresy. Aside from that, Moses got in enough trouble with God for striking the rock (Num 20:10) - so is it reasonable that he would have overstepped his authority when he wrote Deuteronomy 24?
The way they rewrite 1 Corinthians 7:15 could have come out of a George Orwell novel. "Not bound" means "not bound". It's that simple!
They would also fabricate doctrines out of thin air. How can you be legally divorced but "still married in God's eyes"? Where does even that concept appear in Scripture? Same for the notion that there's some caste system among marriages. A marriage can be inappropriate for some reason, like in Ezra 10, but I see no example in Scripture where a marriage to anyone would be inappropriate solely because they are divorced. (Note: "divorced" and "put away" are not the same thing.)
Also, whenever I appeal to 1 Corinthians 7:9, they would make disparaging remarks about people whose sex drive is such that they are unsuitable candidates for permanent lifelong celibacy. When Paul said "it is better to marry than burn with passion", would that not be just as applicable to someone who years ago got hitched in a Vegas chapel and divorced a week later as it would to someone who has never married?
The way these people treat their proof texts is something I would regard as nothing short of pharisaical. No reasonable Christian would read Luke 18:22 ("Go and sell all you have...") and say you must forfeit your earthly possessions to gain eternal life. What then, makes them think it is appropriate to treat 1 Corinthians 7:10-11 or Romans 7:2-3 that way?
Another observation: I've never once heard anyone who believes in this doctrine give a credible answer to Matthew 5:17-18 and Luke 16:17. Jesus did not alter the tenets of basic morality in any way. And God isn't known for issuing Licenses to Sin.
As does every woman that marries a divorced man.
It specifically doesn’t say that. Your adding to the word of GOD. Your assuming.
Are you saying that men can remarry and our Lord God Almighty will allow it to be good.
Nope, all are the same when one is in the spirit. There is no male or female, rich or poor, Jews or Greeks. We are all one in spirit thee Spirit of Jesus. We come to Him pure holy and blameless if we do not wilfully sin. Follow and obey Jesus as there is no other way to be with Him in Eternity forever.
@@ronbo30yes it does in Mark
@@CRN47675 then mark and Matthew account of this contradict each other.
No such thing as a 2nd marriage Mark Chapter Ten vs 1 18 is adultery.
PERIOD NO EXCEPTIONS Peace my friends
So you mean to tell us that adultery was lawful under the Mosaic Law? See Deuteronomy 24:2. How could this scenario have occurred without anyone getting stoned to death?
If the Church annuls the first marriage, the person can marry! Yes, there is an exception.
Keep preaching pastor goof job Jesus Christ is king
*good
My husband cheated with his married coworker. She left her husband. She expected my husband to leave me. He never did, not even for 1 day. He never expected me to discover their affair but once I did I was - 100% shocked, hurt, angry, in disbelief.
Your husband committed adultery, which could have severed the marriage bond if you so chose.....or you can choose to forgive him.
Everyone will sin in marriage. Yet husband and wife still stay together and we forgive one another. No sin will end a marriage. Only death does.
@@holinessofthebride1935i wouldnt care if my wife cheated (versus her leaving me)... thats between her and God.. as long as she stays with me.. then I can still have guilty free sex..
Very painful but forgive him
@@sfs1167 Nope. Not as a Catholic it would not. Where are you getting this? The Catholic Church does NOT teach that adultery "severs the marriage bond." That is some strange Protestant teaching! LOL.
Yes, confess and repent.
This subject has been openly discussed with the remarriage of Joni Lamb of Daystar Television, & Doug Weiss, who's a marriage counselor, & has a show on Daystar, & who oddly enough divorced his wife for "emotional abuse" & then married Joni with the blessing of another marriage counselor, Jimmy Evans. Now Joni became a widow when her husband passed away a year earlier, & she had a right to remarry, but Doug's wife is still alive, & on top of it, we never heard her side of the story & the accusation that was made against her from her husband. Then he marries arguably, the most powerful woman in Christian television & perhaps, the most beautiful too. And the whole thing just doesn't seem right when you consider what GOD says about divorce & how He allows it if there's adultery, but still hates it . But I suppose this is between them & GOD, as is the case with all of us...
Even a divorced man doesnt have a right to get married again along the wife is still alive
It is good for a man not to marry his disciples said
Jesus replied not all can receive the single life
Eunuchs were mentioned
Passion urges can be a problem causing one to
Marry without considering
The consequences!
😮hello
Marriage is a vow (promise) to "The Lord." Breaking a vow with him is sin. Which equals death. Unless you repent. The Lord is a husband to Israel and the believers. Israel broke the covenant . So he divorced her. And that's why he died, so he can remarry Israel. Paul said we grafted in. There is no remarriage unless your spouse dies. The world (satan) says you can. But "The Creator" says you can't remarry unless your spouse dies.
This makes no sense to me, if a marriage doesn’t work out then your forbidden to ever marry again? That’s sounds depressing and unfair and downright mean… I’m a Christian but this whole topic seems evil
The woman of samaria had direct contact with Jesus!
Yes! Jesus recognized each marriage that she had as He called each "husband." They are recognized marriages (unless one calls Jesus a liar) and if you are married to someone, you are supposed to honor and be faithful to that person. Therefore, one who marries someone who was previously divorced (even for reasons other than adultery or abandonment) is expected to hold to that commitment. Some critics will erroneously state that anyone who is married to another after a divorce must leave that marriage and return to the original spouse (against scripture).
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
You ain't Jesus and sin is genderless. It's written 7th commandment. I see way to many Jezebels taking this out for context. Go repent and stop lying to yourself
The bible is castin the stone nt a man
So what other sins arr not washed away by repentance..lead a preacher does not no context....read paul..it is only for believers how many women are true believers in your church
What? Speak in coherent sentences.
The tenets of basic morality are fixed and constant throughout time and space. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. And pi is 3.14159... These things do not change.
For this reason, something that would be a sin if done by a believer must also be a sin if done by an unbeliever, and vice versa.
The church needs to focus on believers and non believers..who are the non righteous that God tells us not to be yoked to so on and so forth...who is a harlet..a drunk a liar a fornication..a believer is someone who has confessed and turned from there wicked ways...all the church is doing is holding people in bondage to sin that alot God has set free....
If remarriage after a duly enacted divorce was as heinous as this speaker claims, it would have never been lawful even in the days of Moses. It is people who make an idol out of marriage permanence that need to repent.
There is no merit to the asinine notion that people who are in a 2nd marriage need to "repent" by getting a divorce least they forfeit their salvation. It is blasphemous heresy to say such things.
Sounds like someone is divorced and remarried.
@@SaintAthanasiusChurch Not me. But would it matter anyway?
You got one guy who dumps his wife just so he can get with the OnlyFans girlie. Yep, I can see how that would be tantamount to adultery. But then you got another man whose wife is abusive, uses recreational drugs, plays cruel games, etc. After her third arrest for shoplifting, he finally says he's done and divorces her while she's doing time. Three years later, he meets Deanna. Are you telling me it is somehow "adultery" if he marries Deanna? What blasphemous, brain-dead nonsense is this?
If you truly think this is the teaching of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, then you need a remedial course in basic Scripture.
Yes, it is adultery you disgusting liberal heretic. @@dh605x
"Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.” Mark 10:11-12
"Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery." Luke 16:18
"For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man." Romans 7:2-3
@d865x Jesus addresses specifically your contention about Moses. Did you not HEAR what HE said? Look it up! Matt 19: 8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. WHY CAN YOU NOT HEAR JESUS??? because you are of your father the devil him you will hear!! He abode NOT in the truth. Worse you charge the Holy Spirit with blashpheny who said the words in Matt 19.How can one Forfeit a salvation they never had? God is not the friend of aldulterers that refuse to repent.James 4:4 Repent and be saved or don't.
@dh60h Sounds like Someone has "made an idol" out of Adultery..and seeks to stone to death those that believe in "marriage permanence". Its backwards ,its sleazy, its despicable and it is NOT from God. Worse it teaches adulterous ways to children.
Bullshit
If a woman was abussed or something like that she my divorce
And remary
According to your OPINION NOT SCRIPTURE
Catholic Church needs to ease into the 21st Century.
The 21st Century needs to repent and return to the words of Christ.
I never thought I'd defend Mike Pence but your toxic judgment is cruel and SINFUL.
This person does not speak for God.
To the author of this video: refer to Matthew 5:17-18, 1 Corinthians 7, verses 9, 27-28 and 1 Timothy 4:1-3. Then refer to Revelation 22:18-19 and consider that my warning to you.
And it is against scripture, unless you cherry pick. Now, I'd challenge the speaker that if he wants to do that, he needs to hereby write each person who comments on here a check for $5000 each. The Bible says to give to those who ask from you. Also, pluck out his eye as it is likely that he has looked at a woman in lust. Legalism isn't salvation.
@@sfs1167 People have tried for centuries to convert the tenets of ethics and morality into some nice and tidy legal code. But it is a fool's errand in part because no legal code can fit every situation. Also, you are always going to have those Pharisees who are great at keeping the letter of the Law while concealing their evil. Their cruel exploitation of loopholes, clauses, and technicalities will testify to their true colors.