Exposed: The Actual Debate between Svami Vidyamanya Tirtha Shripaadagalu and Shri Karpatri ji
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- Harihi Om.
In 1965, there was a debate between Svaami Vidyamanya Teertha Shripaadagalu and Shri Karpaatri. The debate was initially won by the latter, but the actual stance of the debate was is not well known...
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Another debate took place in 1965 between Swami Karpatri and Madhva sampradaya sanyasi Sri Vidyamanya Teerth. Sri Vidyamanya challenged people to defend Advaita Siddhanta. Swami Karpatri accepted the challenge and the debate went on for 2 days.[19] As Vidyamanya Tirth Swami Ji posed insightful questions, Karpatri Maharaj Ji resorted to logical fallacies. The flaws in his arguments became evident, leaving him with no substantial counterpoints. Eventually, Vidyamanya Tirth Swami Ji's logical reasoning prevailed, marking his victory in the debate.[20]
Vidyamanya tirtharige jayavagali
Hari sarvothama
Vaayu jeevothama ❤
It is historical and we have heard it from so many scholars irrespective of ideology, every one accepted the defeat of Shri Karapatri ji and respected great victory of His Holiness Shree Palimaru Math Divine Swamiji. Even our Gurus told it without any jealousy
Harihi Om.
Thanks a lot. Great video. 🙏❤️❤️
All glories to Shri vidyamanya tirtha Swami ji
I'm from Madhya Pradesh,read and heard a lot about Swami karpatri ji maharaj & his debates but never heard this debate !!
Great info I will confirm these sources ❤️❤️🚩
Jay shree Ram 🪷
Vaishnava Dharma Sada Vijayate🙏🏿🙇🏻🚩
The founder of ISKCON A.C bhaktivedand swami prabhupad also refer bhuta as ' of the living entity.
Madhvacharya ki jai
Ramanujacharya ki jai
Hari bol
Hari Hari prabhu, prabhu i want to study madhva shastra, I mean a lot like nyayashastra, tattva sandarbh darshan sanskrita linguistics debating logic bhakti hermeneutics and lot more what should I do and where can I find such literature
Harihi Om.
You'll need to know Sanskrit quite well, because these granthas are not translated in English. A lot of these are available at anandamakaranda.in. Only a few of them were translated recently and are available in physical copy.
hari sarvottama vayu jeevottama
Do the Sattvata and Jayakhya samhitas of the Pancharatra mention Shrī Shiva? If yes then can u please give some verses from both the samhitas .
Even Saint Dnyaneshwar Maharaj (12th century) of Alandi, Maharashtra used ‘Bhuta’ word to mean Jeevas and in his prayer he prays Shrihari for all Jeevas to becomes friends with each other (Bhuta paraspare jado Maitra jivanche, in Marathi)
ಬ್ರಹ್ಮ ಚರ್ಯ ಹರಿ ಪ್ರೀತಿ ಸುವಿದ್ಯಾ ವಾದ ಶಾಲಿನಹ, ಇಷ್ಟದಾನ್ ಕಷ್ಟ ಹರ್ತುರ್ನ್ ನ: ವಿದ್ಯಾಮಾನ್ಯಾನ್ ಮುನಿ ನುಮ:
Shree shree palimaru bhandarakeri ubhaya peetadhipathi shree vidyamanya teertha gurubhyo namaha ....
👌🏻🙏🏿
You are doing a great job 👍🏻
❤❤❤
!! HARI SARVOTTAMA !!
!! VAYU JIVOTTAMA!!
Harihi om
What is the meaning of (satyam jñānam antam brahma) ?
Is this mean that liberated souls have full knowledge ?
Harihi Om.
No, it means that Brahman is satya (truth), jnaana (knowledge) and ananta (infinite). It doesn't refer to liberated jeevas.
@@bhaktideets
Harihi om
Thanks you
what is the right for vedarambh Sankara and is it a dosha if one does not do this after his upanayan?
Harihi Om.
No idea. I’m not a Dvija. If you’re referring to studying the Vedas, it should be done after Upanayana, as that’s what is supposed to be done by a Dvija and the very purpose of Upanayana.
Harihi Om 🙏
Nice Video 💯
Harihi om
But why Sri Vidyamanya teerth did not opposed him on that day when debate was happening?
Haraye Namaha.
Watch the video carefully. He already provided the same arguments, but Shri Karpaatri didn’t accept the proofs, as he was unaware of the existence of the Geeta Taatparya.
Harihi om
Sri Vidyamanya teerth ji also had upa siddhanta dosha in the word (moksha) .
Harihi om
Sir Can you provide proofs where Sripad Madhvacharya accepted Bhuta as( Chetan tattva ) from his Gita bhasha with reference.
@@bhaktideets Harihi om
Sri Karpaatri jiwas A Great scholar how can even say that he was unaware of Tatparya nirnaya existence and in the debate. Sri Vidyamanya teerth ji said that there can be many meanings of A word so Sri Vidyamanya teerth ji said there can also be jiva as a meaning of word (bhuta).And in this Sri Karpaatri ji criticised him.
Harihi Om.
> -> Nope, it's Apa Siddhaanta dosha and there was none from his side, as what he said was in accordance with Madhvacharya's Geeta Taatparya.
> -> It's Taatparya Nirnaya, Adhyaaya 13, Shloka 35, not his bhaashya, as said in the video itself. You can find it here, before the fourteenth chapter starts: anandamakaranda.in/document/bhashya/bhagavadgitatatparya/#BGT_C14
*जीवानामचेतनप्रकृतेर्मोक्षं भूतप्रकृतिमोक्षम्* ॥ ३५ ॥
> --> Simply because the Bhagavat Geeta Taatparya Nirnaya isn't well known since a long time. Most Aachaaryas just write a single work on the Bhagavat Geeta, the bhaashya. And Shri Karpaatri was a North Indian, so he wasn't completely aware of Madhvacharya's works on the Bhagavat Geeta and had studied only his bhaashya.
Hallo nice video. Can you pls share the name of the book which you are quoting from. Thank you 🙏
Haraye Namaha.
It's not a book. Those are two letters written by the respective Smaarta Vidvaans we mentioned.
@@bhaktideets Can you please upload them in a form of pdf and share with us so that we can show them as reference when indulging in a discussion with the opposite party
I am really having difficulties to proving the point that you discussed in the video without the the actual references. Thank you 🙏
Haraye Namaha.
Sure, we shall see. There isn't really much to upload, as they are just two pages. You can simply shared the link to this video and mention that those are the letters sent to Shri Vidyamanya Teertharu.
@@bhaktideets yes you are right and I have been doing that since I have seen you video, but the prblm is to see them from the video 1st you have to change the res to 1080p then zoom to read the content. So it would be really helpful if we had them in a pdf format. Pls make them available for us if could it would be really helpful. Thank you 🙏
Hare Kṛṣṇa
Dandavat Praṇāma 🙏🏻🙏🏻
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Nicely explained
🙇♂️🙇♂️👍🙏🙏👌👌👌good job.
Can you give the link to the letter shown in the video.
Thanks
Harihi Om.
It's not available on the internet. This photo was taken at Shri Palimaaru Matha, Udupi.
@@bhaktideets Jai Sri Krishna. Thank you. In the archives digital library there is a pdf by name "Swami Karpatri vs Swami Vidyamanyatirtha 1965" which is from the advaitin's perspective. If you can compile all the info regarding the debate and upload it as pdf, it would be very helpful to get the complete picture.
Harihi Om.
Sure, shall think about it.
@@bhaktideets Jai Sri Krishna.
I had heard long time ago, that Sri Madhvacharya had written in Bhagavad Gita commentary(or in his other works )that mukt can be achieved quickly via ashtanga yoga(patanjali system), but that particular mukti is inferior compared to mukti achived by respective sadhana according to ones yogyata, something like that. Since you are a respected follower of Sri Madhvacharya ji's tattvavada, so can you provide me the reference?
I faintly remember thinking that it was in the 6th chapter commentaries, but i could not find it.
I dont know who else to ask, so that is the reason i am asking your good self. If you can kindly reply, i will be greatful. 🙏
@@vishnubuddha4188 Haraye Namaha.
I'm not aware of any such thing. As far as Patanjali's Yoga is concerned, it is not considered a Moksha-Shaastra or suitable to provide complete knowledge about Paramaatma at all. In the Brahma Sutras alone, it is rejected as a flawed philosophy (and only those portions which accord with the Sadaagamas are considered).
IS THERE ANY OTHER FAMOUS DEBATE IN RECENT TIMES(LIKE ABOVE) BETWEEN DVAITA VS ADVAITA BY FAMOUS SWAMIS
Is it true that Sripada Vidyamanya Tirtha forgot his charana paduka after this debate ?
Many Smarthas teased me on this 😥
Harihi Om.
No, it may be there only in the Smaarta version of the story, which has a lot of false accusations and if fanatics tease sanyaasis, then it shows their own cheapness. Nothing more.
According to Sripada Madhvacharya Present Shiva will become Sri Adi Sesha in Next Kalpa....Can you please tell this by citing some verses from Scriptures 🙇🏻💙
Shreemadhwacharyaru had quoted from aitereya Upanishads regarding that
Actually many verses were interpreted by blasphemous people so now there are few pramanas
I did not understand anything 😢
Harihi om
Somepeople are saying that rig veda and other vedas are only emerged after Sri Ananda tirth he established brahmana dharma and Vaishnava dharma is only 1200years old and the basis is we (hindus) have only 700-600years old manuscripts of the vedas.
Harihi Om.
No need to even talk to them. There are manuscripts of the Vedas that are thousands of years old and the Shatapatha Braahmana has been dated to 3,000 BCE.
Shree shree Vidyamanya teertharige koti koti namaskaragalu 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Even today half filled pots like Shree Karapatri maharaaj and his followers I.e kinkaras are making noise..... Its swabhaava of them we cannot do anything...
Biggest lies some madwa Brahmin
vidyaranya and akshobhya never meet each other
Haraye Namaha.
I'm not even a Brahmin or a deekshita Maadhva. The video's about the debate between Shri Karpaatri and Shri Vidyaamaanya Teertharu. At least get your facts right before blabbering anything you want!
Don't be so insecure. Debate between Akshobhya tirtha and Vidyaranya is a fact, Vidyaranya's defeat in that debate is a bigger fact. Accept or don't, truth doesn't care. Moreover it's irrelevant here. Vidyamanya Tirtharu had a decisive victory over Kharapatri which was later twisted by sore losers like you.
If you know kannada read this article more details adbhutam.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/grp-on-aksh-vidya-sem-vrm-.pdf
Haraye Namaha.
LOL! An article of V Subrahmanian, the hate monger who considers himself a Smaarta, abuses Vaishnava Dharma and Vaishnava Gurus, in his blog articles and considers Shri Vishnu a jeeva! That article's been refuted already, as it simply revolves around the argument of Madhvacharya's dating being uncertain and claiming that Vidyaranya would'nt have met Alshobhya Teertharu. And just relax, due to the demands of you and others, we shall definitely make a video on this topic, in the upcoming months. :)
@@dineshabhatt3203Read Sri Akshobhya Vijaya Vaibhava part 2 written by the current pontiff of Sri Akshobhya tirtha samasthana and see how foolish were Patil's comments 😂😂😂😂
Harihi om
Science believe that everything is energy and this world is false and Acharya Madhva says that this world is true and created by the Supreme Being and Can we say that Science is closer to Acharya Shankara ?
What is Science in Madhva's works?
Harihi Om.
Modern science and spirituality are two different fields. Both are unrelated and Shripaada Madhvacharya himself stated in Tattvadyota, that we do not need Shaastras to know something that is known through common sense. Shaastras are needed for knowledge of Bhagavaan, who is incomprehensible to our minds and senses, as both have high limitations.
Coming to this theory of modern science, it has thousands of varying theories, which are repeatedly debunked and new ones appear all the time. It is not reliable. The Shaastras do mention multiple times that the universe is real and not false, as well. Moreover, science and Advaita Vedaanta do not even go hand in hand, as some reputed Shankaracharyas themselves have made absurd remarks, like the Earth being stationary and not rotating.
@@bhaktideets
Harihi om
Shankaracharyas are saying that earth is stationary is as per the scriptures like Surya Siddhānta and other jyotish shastraas and we smaartas do not really prefer science as source of knowledge and also in our mathas the way which science prefer to gain knowledge (like with the help of machines) about things is debunked several times.
Do Dvaitins believe that Vedic scriptures give ways to find bonafide knowledge about anything ?
@@ShankaracharyaFollowerRead Shankaracharya Brahma Sutra Bhashya 18.66
"The appeal to the infallibility of the Vedic injunction is misconceived. The infallibility in question refers only to the unseen forces or apurva, and is admissible only in regards to matters not confined to the sphere of direct perceptions, etc ... Even a hundred statements of sruti to the effect that fire is cold and non-luminous won't prove valid. If it does make such a statement, its import will have to be interpreted differently. Otherwise, validity won't attach to it. Nothing in conflict with the means of valid cognition or with its own statements may be imputed to sruti."-Adi Shankaracharya
Can you please tell the meaning of valmiki ramayana 3.47.23
Haraye Namaha.
Your comment went unnoticed. The translation as given on IIT Kanpur's website, is: "Rest here awhile. My husband will return with plenty of meat of many kinds from the forest, killing deer, alligators and wild boars."
You can find it here: www.valmiki.iitk.ac.in/content?language=dv&field_kanda_tid=3&field_sarga_value=47&field_sloka_value=23
@@bhaktideets So, Sri Raam a Meat eater ! Maa Sita ji was offering Meat to a Brahmin !!
Hari Hara !!
@@bhaktideets He was asking for the "meaning" of the verse :P
Haraye Namaha.
False! Raama literally vowed not to eat meat for His entire stay at the forest. How can He contradict Himself? The animals were killed for pashu-bali and hunting practice, for acquiring animal skin, etc., not for eating their flesh. In most cases of pashubali, the animals were not actually killed, and if at all they were, they would be given moksha. As of now, these practices are prohibited.
@@bhaktideets Hunting practice ?? !! Waah waah !! Animal skin for clothing ?? ! Sita ofeering meat to Brahmin ?? !!
bro, i think dwaita and adwaita all are valid. did sripad madhvacharya have any opinion about it ?
Wow what a video of telling whole truth and whereas channels like sanatan dharma decoded boast about the victory of karpatri maharaj
Madhwaya namah!
I have heard various mayavadis , and as a result I used to think that, maya vaad is actually true,, i started considering all great vaishnav acharyas inferior to Shankaracharya but now I have realised that,,, nooh the philosophy of shripad madhavachary is more deep and conceptual ,,, and now I really want to realish the nectarian taste of all the great works or commentary of jagad Guru madhavachary.
Because it will be very much helpful to move further in devotion.
Because any vaishnav sampradaya , does accept dwait. ,
Although they don't call it dwait but actually all are dwait .
Like vishstadwait of Ramanujachary.
Sudhadwait of vallabhacharya.
Bheda abhed of nimbarkacharya .
And achintya bheda abhed of chaitnya mahaprabhu ❤️.
Hence all vaishnav do accept dwait , so I want to relish the actual dwait which was given by shripad madhavachary ❤️_ to make more progress in my bhakti yog. Because a sincere bhakti initiates with dwait , that is dualism. ❤ All glories to supreme lord shree krishn Chandr ❤️ purn tam purushottam 🙏
Yes true you can read Mahabharata tatparya nirnay for full knowledge of taratamya and real facts
@@jujutsu108from where I can get this commentary??
@@keshavkumarjha5763You can pick up the English version from Sri Palimaru mutt or login to madhwakart to buy the same
This is the truth and we have a leaving proof
Harihi om
Great work but,
Sri Karpatri ji. didn't declared himself the winner but when Sripad Vidyamanya Teerth left the conversation then the people who are watching the scriptural debate live declared him the winner
Harihi Om.
Who said that Svaami Vidyamanya Teertharu left the debate? His arguments weren’t considered by the judges or Shri Karpaatri ji, as they were unaware of the very existence of Shripaada Madhvacharya’s Bhagavat Geeta Taatparya Nirnaya itself, despite repeated explanation. That’s why Karpaatri ji was declared the winner initially, until other Smaartas themselves accepted his defeat.
Harihi om
Thanks a lot
@@bhaktideets
Harihi om
Can you provide me the copy of that debate ?
@@ShankaracharyaFollower Harihi Om.
It's not available online. The letters though were shown in the video at 02:29 and 03:10.
@@bhaktideets
No I think it is available on archeive and there it is stated that Shri Vidyamanya Teerth ji left the Debate.
Do you know who is Shri Karpatri Mahabhag
Haraye Namaha.
Yes, obviously. Otherwise, why would we even make a video on that topic?
A person who spreads lies about his ignorance.... He is Shree Karapatri maharaaj...
you should make video on hindi
Haraye Namaha.
Sure. Shall think about it.
Harihi om
Great work.
Some mayabadi claim mani darvid shatri debate with plaimaru matha and most of his questions could not be answered by maddhi acarya.
@sweeperkeeper2089
They had a cordial relationship. That Mayavadi is an idiot
@@harekrishna6402 does these vakyartha debates in mutts declare victories of anyone?
Due to the fight between Brahmins, Hinduism became weak and other religions got advantage and Hindus were converted to other religions. Brahmins primary duty is to protect Hinduism. When they are going to stop this kind of activity.
Haraye Namaha.
Propagating and following Dharma is the duty of all human beings, not just Brahmins. Even many of our Admins themselves aren't Brahmins. But that is not even relevant to the topic of the video.
I know in this lot of bogus proofs are against swamiji to prove him wrong I know it I belong to Sringeri region and you are just defaming my gurus swami karpatriji name there is no such evidence in matha which was written by swamiji
Send me the letter and proof that Sringeri and other math’s and said that karpatri ji was defeated
Do you are aware who is karpatri maharaj your Madhwa swamis will never match his intelligence
I respected madhwadis
Now my respect them has got down
Haraye Namaha.
So, according to you, the letters by the Kudli Shankaracharya himself and Shri Polakam Raama Shastri, shown in the video, are "bogus proofs?" Don't say anything randomly. We already showed them and you can read what they say.
And by the way, we don't need respect from people like you who already have a superiority complex that our Gurus are inferior to your Gurus and what not!
@@bhaktideets i think he doesnt know to decode those tabloids after all mayavadis they seems to stand on mythya bashya
It js one angle of the story who knows what is the other angle.
Haraye Namaha.
The other angle is already well known, with Smaartas propagating that Karpaatri won. But these proofs presented here are by Smaartas themselves.
If you want we advaita peopless also gove 100 s of informetion that Akshobhya tirthru {i am giving him because hi is a monk) not difeated Shri sari Vidranya swamiji of 19th pithadishru of Shri shankaramatha of shringeri. I will challenge
Haraye Namaha.
Don't deviate from the topic. The issue is about the 1965 debate between Shri Vidyamaanya Teertharu and Shri Karpaatri. It has NOTHING to do with the debate between Shri Vidyaranya and Shri Akshibhya Teertha. By the way, relax, due to popular demand from you and many others, we have already planned to make a video on that topic too. 🤣
You can't tolerate the issue of one debate, yet you continue to humiliate Vidyaranya Maha Swami, who truly taught and laid a strong foundation for Sanatana Dharma in South India, for a debate that doesn't even have strong proof of ever happened
Haraye Namaha.
LOL, what are you even talking? Isn't it YOU who is commenting here and abusing all Maadhvas for no reason when we presented proofs about the 1965 debate, and are changing the topic to a totally different one? And what do you think is not "disrespect" to Shri Vidyaranya? Cancelling all proofs of the debate between him and Shri Akshobhya Teertharu, just because some people now find it "humiliating" for him.
And relax, before directly claiming there aren't proofs for it. We said we shall make a separate video on that debate too, and compile all proofs in favour of it, and also address the objections laid by those who believe it didn't happen.
Lol correct your English first
I want you to know the meaning of abusing
Then you will understand who abused whome
यो विद्यारण्यविपिनं तत्त्वमस्यसिनाच्छिनत्।
श्रीमदक्षोभ्यतीर्थार्यहंसिनं तं नमाम्यहम्॥
Please understand
Your sampraday after defames other sampraday to show the superior if that’s the senecio I challenge you for a debate
Haraye Namaha.
Yeah, after all, sharing some proofs by Smaartas about this debate is "defamation of other sampradaayas," but when Smaartas insult Shri Vidyamanya Teertharu over this debate with their story of him losing, it is "glorification of other sampradaayas," isn't it?
And we don't need your challenge. Neither are we Vidvaans who are eligible to debate, nor is the topic even something worth debating on! The proofs we shared are clear about it and are available at Shri Palimaaru Matha.
Another debate took place in 1965 between Swami Karpatri and Madhva sampradaya sanyasi Sri Vidyamanya Teerth. Sri Vidyamanya challenged people to defend Advaita Siddhanta. Swami Karpatri accepted the challenge and the debate went on for 2 days.[19] As Vidyamanya Tirth Swami Ji posed insightful questions, Karpatri Maharaj Ji resorted to logical reasoning of vedanta. The flaws in the arguments of Vidyamanya Tirth Swami Ji became evident, leaving him with no substantial counterpoints. Eventually, Swami Karpatri Ji's logical reasoning prevailed, marking his victory in the debate.[20]
Source Wikipedia
Haraye Namaha.
That is the same debate in question here. We already explained that the popular narrative about it is not true. And that Wikipedia page is written by a Smaarta, so they will obviously not mention this.
Lol. Avdaita vadi creating their own happiness. Anyone can write page in Wiki.
Harihi Om.
Bhagavaan is beyond the material forms, gender, etc..
न स्त्री न षण्ढो न पुमान् न जन्तु: ।
Then why do we always use masculine words like 'Him', 'His' to denote Him?
Harihi Om.
Your comment has the answer - material forms or gender. The quotation is from the Bhaagavata Puraana, Skanda 8, Adhyaaya 3, Shloka 24 and it talks about how Bhagavaan is completely beyond all material tags and identities. Similarly, he is not a man or woman, like human beings and other living entities are. However, it must be known that He alone ultimately possesses the characteristic of Purushatva, as He is known as Parama Purusha or Purushottama, in the Vedas. The jeevas and other entities are masculine only for namesake, but only He is the original Purusha and therefore, possesses its characteristics too.
@@bhaktideets Harihi Om.
Can you please elaborate 'the characteristics of Purushatva'? 🙏
Harihi Om.
In simple words, Bhagavaan alone is truly considered male, while the souls and other entities are genderless.
@@bhaktideets Harihi Om.
Thank you so much. 🙏❤️
What is this argument and winning or losing . Two ignorent people argue . Two intelligent people discuss and know the difference. Today's seekers of knowledge are far better than these outdated theorists .
Haraye Namaha.
Okay then, if someone argues with you, you're also an ignorant person. And such "outdated theorists" have knowledge of the Shaastras, which are perfectly applicable for real life even till date, unlike today's "seekers" who make several varying conclusions and are sometimes unsure about their sex and how many genders exist! BTW, next time, don't be ignorant of the spelling of "ignorant"!
india has no image in philosophy in front of other countries without these "outdated" theorists.
@@bhaktideets well said and a great yet intellectual rebutal
Lol. How ignorant. Just like if you dissolve sugar in water , there remain no difference between them. Similarly it applies to jiva and bhagwan. It's common sense. But you will not understand this.😂
Hare Raama.
LOL, how is your comment even relevant here? And that's exactly why bheda between jeeva and Eeshvara is eternal -- the molecules of sugar, when dissolved in water, do not lose their individuality and provide a taste of sweetness, which is NOT the property of water. This is exactly why the Katha Upanishad, while describing the process of moksha, says:
यथोदकं शुद्धे शुद्धमासिक्तं *तादृगेव भवति* ।
एवं मुनेर्विजानत आत्मा भवति गौतम ॥ १५ ॥
As (one quantity of) pure water poured into (another quantity of) pure water **only becomes similar to that**, O Gautama, so the Aatma of the Muni, who knows, becomes like that (with Brahman).
--Katha Upanishad, Adhyaaya 2, Valli 1, Mantra 15
Here, the words taadrk and eva imply that the jeeva can only become similar to Brahman, but do not lose their individuality.
Keyboard warriors like you can never be more knowledgeable than great philosophers like Shripaada Madhvacharya, who has been appreciated by other scholars as well and had the title of Jagadguru. Random vaakyas from the Shaastras cannot refute the Siddhaantas of Rshis, as bheda between jeeva and Eeshvara is a natural tenet of Vaishnava Dharma, which was founded by Bhagavaan Vishnu Himself.
@@bhaktideetsif the water is changing after adding sugar then how can it be satyam? Om Purnamadah... So it is not complete right? Thus this is a try to understand the satya through mithya or say the truth through the false.
Shows you don't have common sense. Evaporate the water, and the sugar content stays back, proving that they were always different and will remain so.
@@SanatankePoojariGyaanYogsadhu Haraye Namaha.
That's exactly our point - Brahman alone is purna, complete. The water (jeevas and Prakrti) are not, which is why they depend on Brahman.
@@bhaktideets ya but the atman is purna right?
Vaishnava Dharma sada vijayate.....Hari sarvottama vayu jeevottama 🙏
Karpatri ji maharaj was won always
Haraye Namaha.
And the Shringeri Shankaracharya and other Smaartas who themselves accepted Karpaatri Ji's defeat, didn't exist, right, as per you?
Karpatri ji won
Haraye Namaha.
In the dreams of the opponents, obviously. But in real life, Smaartas themselves accepted his defeat.
@@bhaktideets😂good one
@@bhaktideets Keep crying my man! Pitty satisfaction you might get. Carry on
Haraye Namaha.
We are having tears in our eyes laughing at your situation. You cannot answer any of the proofs shown in the video and can only make irrelevant comments. 🤣
Lol. Your bogus claim were kicked by karpat Maharaj and your achara left only lefting his sanda 😂😂😂l
Haraye Namaha.
Where saar? In your dreams or those of rakshith raman? In real life, though, other Smaarta Vidvaans themselves accepted Karpaatri's mistake. By the way, being a Shaiva, there is no need for you to defend Smaartas for any reason.
@@bhaktideets No samarth never say's such things, but some neos couldn't digest their deaft. And spread such hypocrite talks .
Haraye Namaha.
Do you even have a functional hippocampus, in the first place? Watch the video and then talk. Who are you to declare the Smaarta Vidvaans mentioned here as non-Smaartas!? And you're a Shaiva and have no business in defending Mayavadis in matters involving Mayavadis and Vaishnavas.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Karpatri#cite_note-20