The MOST powerful smartphone 4.0! iPhone A16 Bionic vs Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 for Galaxy vs Tensor 2!
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- Round 4 of the best and most detailed chipset comparison on CZcams is online! With Apple's A16 Bionic being the defending champion, can it be unseated by the new and improved Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 - or better yet, the specialized version of the chip called the 8 Gen 2 for Galaxy? How will the Google Tensor 2 fare against these tough opponents? Let us know in the comments below what you think about these beasts, and how the future looks for them!
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6:05 AnTuTu Benchmark
6:59 Geekbench ML Benchmark
7:42 3D Mark Benchmark
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9:30 Battery
9:54 Conclusion
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My favorite part of all these tests, is how upset people get over them. If their phone of choice loses (especially samsung owners of which I am one s23 ultra) the tests are rigged. The only folks who don't seem to care are Pixel people cause they never win, always get the smoothest android experience, the best AI features and pay less. These tests are really pointless for Apple people because using a XS max is just as smooth on ios as a current 14 pro max (own them both and day to day things can't tell a difference). A better test would be who has the best apps, that's what your phone does anyways, open and run apps.
As a Pixel owner myself, I completely agree. Even though our Tensor chip isn't the best performer numbers wise, it is the smoothest experience on the Android side in my humble opinion. I'm happy and grateful for the Pixel Series.
Isn't s23 series the smoothest android?
@@muhammedzayan4399 not really its the second smoothest but its the best android i have ever used
Look at isamarcial his version is way more optimized
You can say wahtever you want. But this guy is biased and racist.
All in all these benchmarks are just for your satisfaction.
Both the 8 gen 2 and a16 bionic chip are very efficient and are very smooth with no lags with better heat management so no issues with the processors although the results may vary on different devices having same processor ( they do actually).
yeah, any smartphone has an amazing octa-core cpu these days
Cry
cap..iPhone's a16 bionic cannot maintain sustained performance in long term and will lag cuz it doesn't have a cooling system
A little mistake at 9:27, 8 GEN 2 F.G. should be at 2nd place with 776.77 points
Yes I saw that too
Who cares
@@noimnotakpoppfpsheacy2526 what are you doing here if you dont care this is literally what the whole video is about
What is 8 gen F G
@@rogergoldsmith7482 FG = for galaxy. It's the Samsung version of the regular 8 gen 2
I think it would be interesting to also include last years chip in the comparison to see just how far we’ve come
Very interesting results. I think Apple will be forced to improve their chips or they will fall behind their snapdragon equivalents in the future. I'm running the Pixel 6 with the Tensor G1, which is by all means much slower than all the flagship chipsets, but still gives a really smooth software experience.
Benchmark doesn't tell everything, software optimisation is the key.
@@avs_ytb completely agree with that. You may need raw power in mostly niche situations like high end gaming or exporting, but otherwise I think we've gotten to a point where there's way more than u need
@@aidannorth 💯, these flagship chips have reached a threshold where more performance dosen't bring substantial difference in the experience.
But being overpowered today will be a great thing to have down the road like in 2 years when apps could really catch up to them.
There’s no threshold, optimization is not key. That’s just a trendy ass word right now lmao.
You’re a dumb a16 is the fastest ever … s23 chips will slow down timely
When looking at batteries are you adjusting for the rated mah of the different batteries?
if you used S23 Ultra instead of regular S23, you should also have chosen 14 Pro Max instead of just the 14 Pro. Bigger battery, better heat management, better performance.
and also using other apps where are not only for Iphone optmized to be fair..
Technically yes
Buttt it's very close to what shown especially the iPhone since there cooling is mostly the same which is very poor
@@sehrgut14
I do agree on that regard choosing equally optimized apps on both oss is very important to give the real most true result
He used Adope Rush and Geekbench which are better optimized for ios, he should have used kinemaster which is better optimized for Android.
14 pro and 14 pro max is almost the same 🗿 you can't actually notice the difference 🗿
Greatest channel. I love the videos here... superb work!
Great video!
At 9:20 there’s an interchange between the scores of galaxy and tensor 2.
Yes, he mixed up with the score
You're right - there are just so many numbers to punch in, this happens sometimes even when we check. Sorry! 😜
@@Versusdotcom Sure, we pretty much understood the numbers and of course the effort you make is enormous and highly appreciated✌️🔥
Don’t mind us, we check on too much details 😂
It’s so weird seeing videos where Apple wins. People say things like “use different apps, results will be different”, “Samsung is really doing well this year!”, or something unrelated to the video entirely, like bezels or something. Everyone just wants to see Samsung win in the department that matters the most. Good luck to Samsung and other Android companies.
Android fanatics can’t accept that A Bionic is a powerful chipset since the day Apple invested to create their own silicon
@@Quartza_ and they'll make up any excuse or even lie like "as an apple fanboy" to make up for samsung being #2
Hey Versus, Does the S23 Ultra come with the same capabilities as the S22 Ultra where you can go into Processing Speed in settings and change it to Maximum for more performance? Would we be able to get a test between the S23 Ultra in that setting, and a iPhone 14 Pro Max?
The Phone do it by itself
Please also compare the newest chips with its predecessors so we can see the improvement
none of the adobe apps are optimized for the android except for the lightroom, that's why, otherwise 8gen2 for galaxy is taking a minute less than a16 bionic in kinemaster pro
Your videos are so high quality, informative and interesting to watch ! Your channel is the role model for tech vs tech !
I can't remember who did a video rendering between S23 Ultra and iPhone 14 Pro Max with Adobe Rush and iPhone came out faster but when using another video software, the S23 Ultra finish it faster. So there's a possibility that it might not be the hardware but the optimization.
Yes of course Samsung users always find an excuse for their phone losing
@@michealadebz he's correct though, different benchmarks measure different performance factors. Ultimately both android and iOS are pretty good now and I doubt any of us will be disappointed with any of the devices tested in this video.
@@michealadebz im sad that ur iphone performs better in few apps and most of them are paid XD
@michealadebz3034 So we point out that Adobe is optimised for IOS and not for android. A fair and equal comparison would be both non optimised apps or optimised apps for both. Try inshot. Not optimised for either phone. Faster than Adobe. 🤷♂️ It's always been the case apple have focused entirely on Adobe where Samsung specifically has kept more options.
lol skill issue
Are you running s23 ultra on maximum processing speed?
Watching all these high end smartphones while rocking a 4+ year old OnePlus 6T on LineageOS 20 (Android 13). While battery life is making me consider upgrading, the fluidity and features of Android 13 plus the custom dev support keeping this phone alive nearly 2 years after EOL is what really keeps me hooked on Android. Sadly the only real vendor that has good dev support on Android these days is the Pixel which compromises a lot on power, but it's a solid choice all things considered especially in this niche use case. Overall I have no problems with either OS as I daily an iPad Pro, but Android is my personal choice when it comes to smartphones.
I heard there was alot of bugs in Lineage 20..
Whats your opinion? Should i also upgrade .
Im also on 6t. 😀
@@FACTUAL_KEY So far no major bugs on my end. One small thing that I am having an issue with is Google Maps not showing the media controls for Spotify when it's playing even though it's enabled in settings. It's still accessible from the notification bar so it's no big deal but it's something that I didn't experience on Android 12 with Pixel Experience. Other than that the battery life is excellent (for a 2018 phone) and Magisk is working well with root, banking apps, and NFC payments. Definitely daily driver material.
@@DChosenOneD thanks bro.. battery life has been getting worst and lots of delay while gaming so thought of installing the lineage...
Thanks for the advice 🙏
How did you get the Android 13 update on 6T when I can't get it on the 7?
@@Shankar-Bhaskar read again, it's a custom ROM, you can find instructions how to flash it on XDA
My S23+ had 2000+ on geekbench6 single core when I tested it a few days ago... Same with other tests.
Did you by any chance test it with that battery friendly profile turned on?
Mine had single 2.1k and multi 4.6k
He ran geekbench 5, latest is 6 and you get higher score on that. I get 2.5k/6.5k with A16
Great video 👏💯
Very nice content, thanks! Please do one with last gen chips! I'd like to see the Snapdragon 8 gen 1 vs. Tensor G1 vs. the A15 bionic. then if you could compare the last gen results to current gen results in this video, that would be so awesome! Btw, I see very little real-world speed difference between the speed of my iPhone 14 Plus (A15), Pixel 7 Pro (Tensor G2), and Motorola Edge+ 2022 (Snapdragon 8 Gen 1). They all seem nice and snappy. But then again, I'm not doing anything intense on them. What I do notice, however, is the higher refresh displays on the Pixel (120hz) and Motorola (144hz) vs. 60hz on the 14 Plus. I also notice the better cameras and sound quality on the Pixel 7 and iPhone 14 Plus vs. the Motorola Edge+. Still, the screen of the 14 Plus doesn't necessarily look bad, just like the Motorola doesn't necessarily sound bad. You'll just notice where one is improved over the other in a given area.
The video I was waiting for❤❤
Yeah I already knew who was going to be in first, second and places more or less. Samsung and Snapdragon have bridged most of the gap with the bionic chip but they are still not quite there. And my opinion, the Google tensor has a long way to go to catch up with them.
Kid needs to see phonebuff lol
@@ImtheIC phone doing same 10 apps opening and ram management more than a decade! It doesn't even stress the processor!
@@sterron8377 what this troll has done exactly is even worse than phone buff. Being a pcmr top nerd, I always roast noobs like mkbhd, max tech, mrwhotheboss, or phone buff. I took his name to suggest less bs.
Apple wins with the cpu, google wins with the gpu.
@@ImtheIC "pcmr top nerd" you sound insufferable
Extremely disappointed that the Dimesnity processor is not included in the test.
Finally somebody who knows how to make a comparing video.. 😢😊
Did you change the performance settings in the Samsung?
efficiency is all that matters because the rest is just peak performance you will never see outside benchmarks
but the other parts of the phone like firmware, screen, build quality, ergonomics and stuff like that matter more
why pixel tensor despite having lowest temperature, didn't manage to have highest battery level at the end, what happens with that energy?
There is a graphical error at 9:20....8gen 2 for galaxy scores and tensor g2 for exchanged
Great video as always.
To be honest all phones are so fast now that these minor differences don’t matter at all.
Thanks again!
@@shankarmuralidhar7836 true, to me a more important aspect is efficiency
yes, i believe that the arrival of Samsung s23 ultra with snapdragon 8.2 f.g, is a revolutionary start to beat apple's bionic chip.
It is definitely a big step forward compared to the Exynos Chip, but Samsung did a big mistake with overclocking the 8 Gen 2 which isn't the best in maintaining low temperatures over longer times of high workloads and not even using a cooling as efficient as Vivo did for the standard 8 Gen 2. It was clear that it will have problems with thermal throttling from the moment they announced that they use a special overclocked version. And maximum performance at the same time is only slightly above the standard 8 Gen 2 so it doesn't even bring a significant advantage at that point. 56% stability in the Wildlife extreme stress test which is only 20 minutes long is very bad and will result in a very high drop in framerate while playing graphic intensive games for example. Vivo even used a very big vc cooling to achieve a good stability of around 85% but on the standard 8 Gen 2 and that's barely enough to keep the framerate high over a long period of time!
😂😂😂lmao great joke
@@flo_h_96 did you jusst copy that from someone else's comment 😭
@@neb7777 no, why do you think so?
@@flo_h_96Exynos will come back again, and also the Exynos 2200 outperformed the 8 gen 2 in Ray tracing Benchmark performance.
Interesting. Very good fun to watch
Considering the Apple chip came out in 2022 and the Snapdragon is a 2023 model…Apple is still far ahead
Dude 5 months difference, that's bullshit not a difference
5 months doesn't change shit. Plus, the hardware iphone has shows better perfonmance.
But, both chipsets are very powerful and do ur job without your knowing the differ.
Look at all the Android sheep getting insecure. Apple destroying android phones with a phone from last year lmao
@@chrisak49 As the A16 may have outperformed the 8Gen2, it's also more expensive. I'm an Apple guy but I love the competitiveness this year.
@@Dirkvnh When you can spend 1500$ on a phone, you can spend 2000$ too.
Please tell me the names of the games being tested,thanks
Why you did not run Geekbench 6 ?
is Ipad M series (M1 / M2 etc) chips fair to compaire with most performing android tablet chip ?
im curious to see if M1 / M2 chips are worth it with iOS vs android with other chips
What ??? M1 will absolutely destroy the competition.
M1/m2 destroys other mobile chips in tablets. Im curios about this year galaxy tab with snap8 gen 2 thought.
Of course it’s not, that thing competes with chips on desktops and defeats most of them
Ab Minute 9:22 ist ein Fehler aufgetreten, da wurden die Scores vertauscht, der Tensor G2 wäre eigentlich wieder auf dem letzten Platz gekommen
mixed up the results around 5:06
Tensor is a mid level chip and it's performance is actually very impressive
Do you think the video rendering had to do with the display quality as it’s rendering more pixels per inch per second so I feel like it’s gong to take longer than that. The iPhone still has that non Uhd display and it’s honestly looking pretty dull and outdated at this point (I have a 14pm)
How does a retina level 2000nit Dolby vision display look dull and outdated💀
Everyone are talking about timing and performance but the optimization of G2 is so good. Also the temperature of Pixel is also the lowest among all in entire video.
Which is better with the camera, the Redmi K40 Pro or the Redmi Note 12 Pro Plus?
thanks perfect video, Kindly do these more, thank you!
Thanks, will do!
Actually, I don't think much would change if Samsung used normal 8 Gen 2 because Samsung was already the most optimized brand with Snapdrgaon. The difference is less than I expected, and it is interesting that there are points where it falls behind.
I think there's a mistake with the web test. The tensor was the lowest.
9:20 - No, you got the Tensor 2 and the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 For Galaxy mixed up.
I have a question - how good do you think the Tensor 3, the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 For Galaxy and the A17 Bionic chipsets will be? Do you think Qualcomm will finally outperform the Bionic chipsets?
bit early to ask that dont you think
Unfortunately, it was a mix-up in the list. I said the correct versions while speaking though!
It's also a little early to think about these chipsets. Tensor should improve at a faster speed though because the other two are already towards the top of the list.
Check out this video by geekerwan, he shows the increase from the sd1 to 2 and the increase is insane. czcams.com/video/c1j5p4iNvRM/video.html
Apple will lose next year if they don’t boost their hardware in other areas.
The next s24 series could come with the Exynos 2400 according to some rumors
@@androidoneiu5206 Unless it is better than the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, please don't use Exynos.
Whats about MediaTek cpu?
It's dope bruh 😎
this video is amazing... congratulations for bringing this type of content... apple leads with the amazing A 16 Bionic
Was a weird test overall since no app should be used which is optimised specifically for a particular operating system.
In the Basemark web test on the phones there is different score and in the graph its different for tensor 2 and 8 gen 2 for galaxy.
For the first time Galaxy's got some serious performance! (antutu & 3D Mark)
Now It's fanboys such as me see the the Galaxy as an RTX 4090! 🤩
I have realized in video rendering in Android phones they use a bit more than half of it's processing power in the app this way you can jump to whatsapp and answer a message and come back to rendering ind the Android phone will continue to rendering in the background but on iPhone looks like they use all their processing power in the rendering, because if you are rendering and you go to answer a whatsapp message when you come back you will have to start rendering again.
I think Google are trying to manage the temperature because Tensor 2 mostly become the coolest compare to other
What about the Dimensity 9200?
The fastest overall phone is quite relative these days. Smartphones are mostly fast enough that it comes down to you choosing which one suits your needs best.
Nope, if your using this logic never buy flagship powered chipset, ur never rendering i guess.
@@archie7288 Did you miss the part where I said to get what best suits your needs? Of course you prioritize what's best for your needs. Some people their priorities are watching videos, social media and photos. Others gaming. Mine. I'm a power user, who uses the spen, Dex, and yes: video editing with Lumafusion. So what suites my needs the best is a Samsung Galaxy Ultra phone.
@@archie7288 if you truly do want to do some serious rendering it is just so much better to buy an actual high end laptop Or assemble a suitable PC. It'll cost around the same as any of these phones and yet It'll perform far better at rendering or anything else. Who actually does serious level rendering on a smartphone anyway? That is a recipe for shortening the life of your phone significantly, doesn't matter if it is the latest and greatest iPhone pro max or the galaxy ultra. It will die a lot faster.
Should have waited for like a month or so for Samsung to roll out some updates to fine tune. Its like my iPhone 14PM at launch was very weired, gliching out and scores were all over the place.
Commenting because I love this video!!
Amazing comparison. Better than every other one I've seen so far and more detailed. Good balance between synthetic benchmarks and real world tests. I think it's really funny, that at the moment Samsung announced that they use a overclocked version of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 and only stating that they use a better cooling system but not going into detail I knew this will be a failure. The flagship chips from Qualcomm aren't known for there stability over longer periods of high workload, but for having problems with thermal throttling. The 8 Gen 2 might not be as bad as the 8 Gen 1 but still not good compared to the latest Mediathek Dimensity chips for example which are slightly lower in maximum performance but they have zero thermal throttling, reaching stabilities up to 99% in the 3D mark Wild extreme stress test. Xiaomi for example is at around 75% with the standard 8 Gen 2 in the 13 Pro and Vivo uses a very big cooling for the standard 8 Gen 2 to achieve around 86% stability and also to not have a significant thermal throttling in practical tests as for example playing games and therefore not having a drop in fps. The Xiaomi with its 75% stability in wildlife extreme stress test already has to much thermal throttling while playing graphic intensive games over longer time and therefore has a clear fps drop after a while. So who at Samsung fought it would be good to overclock it without using a very big cooling? 56% is embarrassing for a phone at this price point and I'm sure playing graphic intensive games for longer than 10 to 15 minutes is a horrible experience. And at the same time the maximum performance no matter if in benchmarks or real world scenarios is only slightly better or sometimes even worse, depending on how optimized an app is, so it doesn't really bring any significant benefits for short high performance tasks and therefore doesn't justify the big shortcomings in stability. Would have been nice to see the Mediatek Dimensity 9200 which Vivo uses in the X90 Pro because this is probably the best chip of all of them. But you probably don't have a X90 Pro available so far, so no problem, maybe redo it as soon as get your hands on a phone with that chip.
I hope tensor next generation will be more optimized
It's not about the optimization Google is doing good with it, the main problem is they are using old cores and gpu + samsung's bad 5nm, fortunately samsung will move to 3nm much more efficient and advanced technology vs the current fabrication, hopefully Google will use the latest cores and gpu from arm, if so Tensor g3 will be a huge selling point for the upcoming pixel 8 - pro
Google has the smartest features. Their chip is built on ai learning like more innovating features. Samsung most features and most customization. Apple well they the most efficient and consistent.
@@user-hm8xh9yw5w it's also because they lag a year with releasement...tensor was planed to be intoduced with pixel 5 not 6 but they changed plans because of chip shortage and when you think about what's featured in the SOCs it amkes Sense
@@user-hm8xh9yw5w snapdragon 888 is using 4mm, this is not about the mm its all about the optimization scripts.
@@_abdulla_nasir
Samsung fabrication is inferior to tsmc's fabrication, efficiency, power consumption, heat, performance, all are better in tsmc, but samsung is the only one who accepted the making of Tensor for Google, fortunately there are rumors saying that samsung's 3nm will be much better and close if not better than tsmc's, also this is not enough the also must upgrade their plan to use the latest offering from arm, after all u can't make everything with AI and ML.
You can turn on enhanced processing on Samsung...
It will perform soo much faster on rendering
Enhanced processing turns on when you run benchmark apps so that way it can cheat and perform in such a way that wouldn’t happen under normal circumstances.
@@Mistygio but you can use enhqnced processing for video rendering n so on...
It was not a cheat if it is available for use...
I turn it on whenever i need to render videos n audios...
It makes so much difference..
6:28 "Current performance of normal device is obviously beyond the normal level suspected of cheating." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why would overclocked gen2 be much slower than normal gen2 in export test? Something doesn't add up if those are identical but just a slight clock difference.
Optimization
Because High Clock only works in Benchmarks, you will not use it on a daily basis, my A15 Bionic runs games in Low Power Mode because of Heating, The Performance Cores are Hungry for Power and you will not want them running for a long time at high load, Apple has been improving the efficiency colors with each generation, in fact it has always been about efficiency, with more efficiency you get
Other hardware and software
Samsung users are here talking shit about Apple
They don’t even know that Samsung workers are using iPhone but iPhone workers don’t use Samsung 😂😂😂
When?
Basemark web the last position is the galaxy?not the tensor?
So 8 Gen 2 For Galaxy Ranked 2nd overall?
We need MediaTek also for this test. 🔥
to score half of what the Tensor brings? haahaha
@@musiclover2328 Dimensity>Tensor
At this moment Mediatek has the most powerful chip
@@user-wj8kv2rv4u I wouldn't say more powerful than Snapdragon or Bionic but definitely better than old Exynos and Tensor. Dat Dimensity 9200 Plus tho 🔥
And people still complain on iphone‘s ! That is why i love apple, they are good in all different scenarios!
In performance they are since years on the top with the most powerfull processors and the Most important for me is that nobody can keep up with the battery life of the „pro max“ models!
And then people say that they are to expensive.. i mean yeah, they are very expensive, but the high end android phones like the s23 ultra are almost the same price, but in comparison to them, apple make their own hardware like their chips and their own OS, which is, why they are perfectly optimized and iphones are faster overall! And another difference is, that iphones get minimum 5 years updates and they run smooth even after the 5 years!
That was the point, why i switched from android to ios, because of their optimization! No freezing, no lagging, even after years it runs butter smooth! Android runs smooth when you buy it, but after time, they get slower and slower and after 2 years, they are slow as hell and freeze and BS like that!
I was years against Apple and an extreme android fanboy, but after i switched to apple i understood, why so many people swear on apple and buy only iphones!
And don‘t say it is because of the „android brand“ that i have bought in the past! 😅 i had samsung, lg, motorola, sony, xiaomi, redmi, oppo, one plus and a lot more! And only the high end models, and a few mid-end models aswell!
A lot of my friends said to me „try this time and iphone and you will never go back“ even they knew, i hated apple since years! And what should i say… they were right!
I mean, i like a lot of the newer things on android, like the foldables and overall they are a lot better in performance overall as they were in the past, but i will never switch to android again, because i know, that i would miss my iphone fast! Because of the battery life and then at the latest, when the first stuttering and lagging begin 😅
Im not trying to convince you to buy Android but your comment seems to be biased and only based on the Past experiences, im just here to correct some of your statement, 8 Gen 2 is more powerful than A16 Bionic Interms of GPU or Raw performance and the proof is when you try to play Games like Genshin impact and 8 Gen 2 will show it's magic, performing better fps at the same time less heating, and you're also wrong about battery that you said "no one can compete in Iphones Interms of battery" S23 Ultra is just literally almost have the same battery life as iPhone, but 14 pro max is still better but it's close and the battery champ this year is ROG 7 that outlasted 14 pro max and S23 Ultra by almost 3 hours.
nice, the difference is negligible in real life but it's nice to see some improvement overall from the snapdragon side, but if you're one to just browse the web and watch a couple of videos on youtube and other streaming services, this shit is overkill. for gaming, it's a lot of perception it feels like oh, this is the best because benchmark and because people that are influencers, celebs and TV uses them...for me, get what works for you. Either or of any of those devices should be good for casual use. overkill but still.
I have run emulators on my 8Gen1 and it's pretty awesome but I also have one of those "freezing fans" to help cool it down for long gaming. the s23 ultra looks pretty great but man, the price, is way above my budget. iPhones for me, would be nice if there were some form of "pro mode" to allow sideloading and stuff like that. albeit, the apple fanboys would hate it because they too, like typical fanboys of any brand, would support things blindly. I use samsung but recently i made a joke online about samsung copying Apple and some samsung fanboy got mad and called me an iSheep haha. hilarious.
However, i'm really impressed with the battery life of the s23u, but i need real world test before i accept these "tests" because reviewers and such, have their own routines on their phones/tablets, and i have mine so it's really a give or take situation. I've seen some people blast through their iPhone battery in one day yet, on benchmark tests, they're like 2 days straight or some shit like that.
anyone want to give me a loaner of either phones? haha.
looks like Qualcomm figured out their "gen" cpus. I remember the gen1 was "as fast as Apple's A" chips but in the process used 6x the battery and became supercritical from heat.
I think this battle will never end. Apple underclock their chips so they can perform better with the software and Samsung releases first in the beginning of the year trying to close the gap and apple will release later in the year and destroy the competition then Samsung comes back again a few months later with a new device trying to close the gap apple releases yet again to widen the gap. Imo just pick your side and run with it I love both I switch from iOS to Android maybe 3 or 4 times a year.
But however samsung's optimization for gaming is not good as apple , even with that 8gen2 in s23u you can't play games with consistently with higher fps , samsung mobiles will drop performance to maintain temperature, this continues every year , so samsung not for gaming even if processor is excellent
My fps drop on iphone too lol
@@ABCD-wz4jw fps drops even in iphones sometimes , but samsung are not even playable because it' drops too much and not smooth like iphones or gaming phones
@@No-Name360 then just go buy gamjng phone lol
@@No-Name360 It's the opposite this time around, the S23 Series have much better thermal management compared to the iPhone 14 Pro lineup. When analysing benchmarks, the A16 had inconsistent performance leading to lower fps on average compared to the Snapdragon Gen 2 due to thermal throttling.
It's SSD writing speed. I'm using the S23 ultra now, it performs much worst than a lot Gen1 phones in almost every game. But S23 does use a better ssd
wat
At 9:25 you swapped the scores between Tensor 2 and SD8G2 FG
that brotato ost caught me off guard :D
9:16 sndFG scored more than the tensor and sndg2. So your flowchart
was wrong
Hey it will be nice if you could add a15 in these comparisons
I would like to see an M2 on the future iPhone 😂 15 pro and 15 pro Max,
I think they’d rather give Android a chance than destroy them.
That will make android users mad* 😂
The heat generated by that chip will be tremendous. The modern day phone chassis isn’t advanced enough to be able to manage that type of heat.
@@ahmedmustafa2395 I believe apple can pull it off if they want to do so.
@@Jedidiah_ They probably could and will in the future.
I heard that Adobe rush is optimized for apple products so yeah
I wonder how these same phones perform after 5-6yrs ! What would be they order ?
Well I have a tab s6 and it runs mostly great! N I'm a power user
8gen 2 for galaxy is well optimised for battery we can see that clearly, however samsung's optimization for gaming is not really equal to it's scores , if you play pubg in s23u you'll get average 50fps and in iphones you'll get average 58fps .. and samsung decreases performance in gaming to maintain temperature 🤒 and brightness, iphones doesn't drop performance but they drop brightness to maintain performance and heat
Samsung did a big mistake with overclocking the 8 Gen 2 which isn't the best in maintaining low temperatures over longer times and not even using a cooling as efficient as Vivo did for the standard 8 Gen 2. It was clear that it will have problems with thermal throttling from the time they announced that they use a special overclocked version. And maximum performance at the same time is only slightly above the standard 8 Gen 2 so it doesn't even bring a significant advantage it that point. On the Vivo X90 Pro+ from what I've seen pubg runs at 60 fps and it can hold it over a very long period of time. But they used a very big vc cooling to achieve that on the not overclocked 8 Gen 2
@@flo_h_96 the s23 has very good thermals to counteract this. By far the biggest change between s22 and s23 is the thermals and it does seem to make a big difference.
@@KazeHorse I mean they definitely improved it compared to the S22 Ultra there is no doubt about that. But still the stability is awful, which is because the cooling isn't even good enough for the standard 8 Gen 2 but they additionally overclocked it that's a bad combination. As I already mentioned stability in the 3D mark wildlife extreme stress test, which is 20 minute long benchmark test, it has a stability of 56% in this video and the best I've seen in other videos was a bit over 60%. This means in less than 20 minutes the power gets reduced by nearly 50% because of thermal throttling. This is really not good. Phones which are better and only reduce power by 30% are not even able to maintain high framerates in graphic intensive games for example. So if they give you a bad experience how can a phone which is way worse give you a good experience? You need at least around 85% stability which means reducing power by a maximum of only 15% on the 8 Gen 2 to be able to not get a lower framerate if playing graphic intensive games over a long perdiod of time or not feeling the phone getting significantly slower in other graphic intensive tasks. Vivo X90 Pro+ is the only phone with a 8 Gen 2 which is able to achieve that so far, which is because they use the biggest VC cooling in all the phones and a standard 8 Gen 2. There are also phones which use the Mediatek Dimensity 9200 chip instead which is only slightly weaker in maximum performance compared to the standard 8 Gen 2 but has a stability of 99% without the need of a big cooling, so it doesn't do thermal throttling at all no matter how long full power is needed. So it will more or less never reduce power, that's what I call great!
@@flo_h_96 it is very difficult for them to provide a gaming phone level cooling system in the Ultra though, they also have to house those huge camera sensors and hardware, the bigger battery and most importantly, the S-Pen. Those things seriously limit the amount of cooling they can provide in a phone, which is already far too big and quite a bit heavy for a mobile phone. It isn't a dedicated gaming phone anyway, for that the ROG phone or Iqoo phones are better off, but then those phones do not give a stylus for multitasking, a very feature rich yet relatively clean software experience or professional level camera output.
@@mihirojha4475 The Vivo X90 Pro+ has a way bigger cooling system, therefore doesn't overheat that much and gets warm slower. As a consequence the stability is way better. Its as good that you won't notice a big decrease in performance even in very graphic intensive games. After a few minutes of gaming it overtakes the S23 Ultra in performance and the advantage over the S23 Ultra gets bigger and bigger. The Vivo X90 Pro+ has even bigger camera sensors than S23 Ultra, in fact 3 of the 4 sensor are way bigger then its counterparts in the S23 Ultra and one camera sensor is only slightly bigger. It also has a separate processor for the ISP which from what I know the S23 Ultra doesn't have. And yes it doesn't have something like the S-Pen, but the battery is more or less as big and the Vivo X90 Pro+ is way thinner than the S23 Ultra except for the part with the camera module there it in not much thinner. Also the Xiaomi 13 Pro and Ultra have better cooling than the S23 Ultra with bigger sensors, same battery size and being a bit thinner at the same time. Not as good as the one in the Vivo but clearly better than the S23 Ultra. So it would be possible to have better cooling!
Bro for this to be me more fair just use the system apps which the once developed by manufactor company not third party apps , most of this apps are not optimized for a specific phone , like thie IOS apps does , it's a huge deff between optimizing an app for one OS than optimizing it for all you definetly won't get the full potentual from the CPU or the preformance you wanna get
Great
What I don't understand is why A16's getting hotter than Tensor AND doing it faster too. I mean, why's everyone complaining about Pixel so much when iPhone's not doing any better? Crazy!
Interesting one
Thanks for watching!
Which phone is used for 8 gen2???
Vivo X90 Pro +
Comparing Android vs Apple in these scenarios is a little bit useless. I know that there's nothing else you can do to compare cpus but even when running the same program they're doing different things comparing to each other since the same program made for Android is different from the one made for Apple. Different libraries used, different languages aswell as optimizations depending on the chipset and the os which is running under it. It's impossible to have a fair comparison, at the end of the day all we can do is appreciate our smartphones which can do things that 20 years ago we could only dream about to do on our phones!
Galaxy Note 9 user here. Everything runs smooth as butter on my phone (YT, Chrome, I don't play a lot). Can't convince myself to switch- there's no need to. Have a great day.
I think it's better if you use apps that aren't optimised for neither to test performance.
Obviously ios has way more optimised apps which beats the point of the test.
It's not Apple's fault if your OS ain't optimized and open source.
@@remyroland8016 Apple users are just pawns. You can only do what they want you to.
Android companies listen to what we want and give us exactly that.
Coming to your statement. Well, you can't call the test legit when you compare a well optimised app with an un optimised one.
@@sidwayne3464 Android users are just sheeps. Google spies you through your phone and collect all your data and sell it to china unlike apple who announced they collects data and just keep it with them. Never in my life i'll ever buy that open source spy OS.
But you accept Antutu for comparison. Tells it all.
I think maybe Samsung bots should group optimization feats with performance feats and stop crying.
For tensor I would say they need improvements in the stress test, i think think they will pass snapdragon and apple bionic, google is new to the smartphone chipset industry, so i wish them luck
Their Chipset isn't even midrange lvl interms of speed but the optimization and smoothness of their software>>
@@yazouruaim694 the G2 is comparable to a 2019 High end chipset (e.g. the snapdragon 855 (the g2 is quite a bit faster)) . Thats pretty mid-range-ish as many "mid range processors" today (e.g 778g) dont quite reach the past standarts of "performance"
@@bermshred Tensor 2 isn't even Faster than Nothing phone that have Snapdragon 7 version Chipset
@@yazouruaim694 yea no, quite frankly, it is
@@yazouruaim694 the np1 has a 778+ as i remember, and thats just about the same as the gt2.. you cant just trash talk a processor and hope to feel better, after saying "but my mid range phone is better"
The a16 chip from the iPhone is good bit its struggels when its gets toasty
Me and my phone:
*Opens CZcams*
Phone: are you sure about that?
Me: yes
Phone:heats up like the sun
Does sd f.g mean that Samsung manufactured their chipsets and not tsmc ?
Should've added a phone that uses latest dimensity soc
Tensor 2 made by Samsung was doomed from the start, because if it was any good, Snapdragon 8 gen 2 would be made by Samsung too.
The only thing apple lose is the sustain performance. A16 will throttle really bad if underload for a very long time. 8g2 FG won't.
Can anyone explain the difference between the 8 Gen 2 and the 8 Gen 2 F.G.??? How can i tell which chip my phone has out of the two? (I have s23 Ultra)
For Galaxy
The 8 gen 2 F.G has higher clock speed for the cpu and gpu (should mean higher potential performance) , and it's for the S23's only
@@heatseeker3725 thank you! :3 have a great day!
Np 👍🏾, thanks and hope you enjoy your ultra :D
@@adamwesty4569 Super helpful comment
With Geekbench 6, Tensor 2 scores are so much higher, resulting in around 1400/3700.
Others score more than 6000k in new one😅
@@Dangerous-Boy You either lack knowledge or are simply ignorant. No one is measuring PP's here.
@@Ki-Bi watch new geekbech 6 videos noob
yes, iphone was & still the king 🍎👑❤️.
One thing is certain and that is Phone are now running some absolutely amazing single cores especially the iPhone. One A16 performance core compares to i9 11900k's core. Absolutely amazing stuff there.
These iPhone performance cores are hungry for power, I need to turn them off to play without heating, and all games run at 60 fps using only the 4 economy cores, Apple’s CPU is far ahead of what the competition has to offer, and most games today demand CPU power, Genshin is one of them.
Should put the pixel pro up against the iPhone X judging by these scores… it’s out of its depth in these tests!
I thought everyone knew that a Adobe products are optimized for the iPhone. Am I wrong?
Thank god for Qualcomm or consumers would be ending up paying an arm or a leg for their future phones!
Hey, I'd like to say that premiere rush is NOT optimized for galaxy devices. In fact it's not even downloadable via the play store and the galaxy store anymore. Please use a different program in the future that is compatible and is available normally on ALL devices