Guys its also possible to get over 50k and EVEN 60k if your name is Pawel and you are cracked at the game. This spot is good until you unlock endgame agris spots cause Jade eats away at your agris, I can only grind here every 2 days for example. but don't be discouraged if you can't get over 30k or 40k on your first few attempts! its all a learning process and it also took me some time to get used to the spot and now after grinding hours and hours I can get over 40k on most classes EVEN if I haven't grinded a SINGLE HOUR on those classes. Enjoy the learning process :-)
my average was 18k with my best hour being 21k and that was with agris and a yellow scroll. 298-291 ap with a succ lahn. my real issue was that i never could manage to pull multiple elite packs together without them instantly resetting. if i had ground this efficiently have gotten my flame 15-20 hours sooner
Started here about a month ago and had a 1-2 hour grinding session 2-3 times a week. Got like 18k trash an hour. Now I'm pulling 32-35k. Highly underrated spot even in endgame imo
Thank you very much for this guide. I used to do the rotation right after the quest guide and usually made like 23k trash (277ap/331dp), tried your rotation and with extremely scuffed hour (died a couple of times because of pulling two packs of elites together) i made 28.5k (probably 30k+ without deaths). There is a lot of room to grow so yeah, probably can make like 35k
granted i suck at this game mechanically, but watching this literally boosted my trash per hour from like 16k to 30k. not even joking i had no idea about the elixirs, and i was "grinding" up front near the daily npc. thank you so much dude
This was hilarious at times, and very informative, thanks! I am a bit confused though, at first you say just kill them where they are, but later you show how to pull them. Can I get those numbers with just killing totem then killing mob at spot? Hilarious subtitles too. Did you use a bot for that or something? It was just so bad. I read it anyway, it was I couldn't look away.
Basically you kill the small ones as elites where they are and you don’t pull them to next packs. UNLESS it’s in that one spot and you can get a 3x pull. And yea it’s auto captions done by capcut
Summary of this "guide". The most important things are : 1) Totems are not affected by AP cap. The more Ap you have the better. 2)Totems not only look different but also have different effects. The most important effect is knockback. 3) Don't pull more than 6 mobs to single totem. They will receive a DP buff which will make them stronger. 4)Do not pull those smaller goblin like elites to normal group of mobs. The are very slow and will reset often. (Sometime it is viable thou) Practice will bring results eventually. Playing smarter and not harder is the key. And a small personal note "This game is a marathon rather than sprint"
bro is HIM good summary I'd add: - Use protection when you kill the totems ( besides the brazier, that one doesn't knock you down ) - Don't overcomplicate your combos on your class, all that matters is killing the totem fast - Elixirs are not a must but will increase your trash by 2-5k ty :]
the real reason beside the rotation and mistakes are the fact you are over 300 ap and most people sitting 280-290 so its ok to do 30k t/loot with 280 ap
Thanks for the guide! This helped me a lot in understanding how to grind in Jade Forest. However, can this be applicable to a 281 AP kutum Archer? I just get about 20k trash loots with Agris and Yellow scrolls. I probably might be doing it wrong.
I kill packs quite fast and try to lure medium/big elites to another pack but I still barely get 30k with agris + yellow. No idea what Im doing wrong. ALso main rotation has multiple spots where its just too far to pull elite to another pack w/o reseting them. Do you wait for the elites to spawn and then pull them or you just jump from pack to pack and when you notice they are elites then you pull? Waiting for the elites to spawn feels like waste of time but Im not sure
Yeah idk how yall do it im succ ninja 290ap 356dp and im pulling 16k using courage,giant,simple cron im def doing it right cause every one of my abilities is aoe shud i be running elixers and if so i need more dp
it appears that you're not doing it right though, succ ninja is one of the best classes there and on my first try every succ ninja i got 43k there is a video of a guy getting 59k trash on succ ninja, i watched it and tried learning from that.
So basically there are 3 totems, one of them give explosives, great explanation, but what about the others ? What about the one in middle of packs (the brazier one) ? What do they do ? You forgot to explain what the other 2 do.
one totem gives CC, means as soon the totem breaks everyone gets CC'ed (stunned on the ground) and if you also too close you also get the CC unless you have , super armor skill active when it breaks. the second totem gives high explosive damage and the third one gives increased damage to the mobs affected by the totem. that is pretty much what i found out.. the only thing you have to be careful with is the "jade starlamp" or whatever its called.. thats the one doing CC
@@raz6864 Thank you for reply. Great info. Sadly, with my 295 ap succ DK I did like 11k trash/h. I just realized how important skill add-ons, crystals and lightstones are. Also just found out that if I am at AP cap, best way to increase damage is to stack demihuman/kama/human damage (demihuman at jade forest from what I've seen). Quick question: Would Extra monster damage apply when ap cap ? Asking as the lightstones for human/demi/kama are a bit expensive. At least until I can buy the proper ones.
The tall "Lamp" knocks the mobs down (including you so use superarmor when it dies) plus it explodes like the others, it's mega dmg (down attacks), I think the most out of all 3 totems, when you kill the lamp you insta kill the pack pretty much. The small brazier just leaves "explosives" behind, and I think a debuff that "burns" the mobs a bit (not sure on the last part). The other tall one idk, I didn't pay attention...tbh only the lamp matters because it's a double edged sword, but it's amazing once you get the timing right and you use SA skills when it dies. Basically they all leave those "explosives" behind and debuff the mobs with 1 DP debuff, then each mob that dies debuff all the others still alive with 1 extra DP debuff until they are like paper to you.
@@Valyoyoable if you are at AP cap, get demihuman dmg lightstone combo for this spot, afaik it goes beyond regular AP cap, idk about other types of AP, you might have to research on that.
Well, I must say that I am still not convinced on your numbers at that spot, I already knew all those mechanics, and you missed the one on the respawn of Erebjork (Guardian miniboss), I already tried the spot outside Marni room and I also changed from "weak point" to vicious shadows" and also "demi humans attack" on lightstones, and still my best push is 32k/hr on Musa and he is 310AP fast as hell, with T-5 and 4T-4 pets, I only lack on the PTW tent but I used furniture buff instead, I might say the best place for horse is at the top (where the other player met you during video), there you can easily get access to it from many sides during rotation. Maybe it is your cristals or maybe my class is not that good. Still, thanks for video.
I didn't mention boss spawn cause it slows you down and is kinda self explaining. boss spawns = kill boss. and even without good crystals and all that min maxing 40k is still easy. I grinded 1 hour on musa which I have NEVER ever played before, I learned the combo for 10 minutes and went grinding with 750 weight in my inventory. I ended up getting 38k trash with 300 AP. Trash just depends on understanding the spot. As I said in the video, I coached my friend who got 27k before and after my coaching now gets 39k on 293 A.Musa.
@@vyus 12 to 18 extra caphras and a pity part of the flame always good from Guardian miniboss (worth mentioning), 38k/hr with Musa!!!??, I would certainly like to see full video, I have played Musa Awak for 2 years and I have gotten almost all above average trash/hr at many places, like you; I am a dedicated student of all spots and mechs, it is weird the only mark I can't accomplish is this 40k, I usually grind Yzrahid, Dehkia or Gyfin lower, but when I saw your last video about those 54k or 45k/hr casual at Jade (almost double than me), I was like OMG what did I miss?, why am I not even close?. Still thanks for video and reply's.
@@fenixcisne the boss is usually not worth cause it slows down your grind and the trash you could get during the boss time is probably worth more than the caphras, But yea I don’t rly play Musa I just really tagged it to grind 1 hour. There are many videos out there though of people getting over 50k at jade I recommend watching them. Idk when I’ll upload a jade video since I’m only grinding crypt rn.
@@Lethmyr_ class matters a lot here yea but its definitley 100% more about understanding how to grind here. I grinded with random classes that I tagged 1 time just to prove a point (classes I never played) and I got 38-42k on my first tries.
@@Lethmyr_ Watch the video homie, he mentions that you stack as much ap as possible here, becuse you want to kill the flags/braziers as fast as possible and they are not AP capped
Guys its also possible to get over 50k and EVEN 60k if your name is Pawel and you are cracked at the game.
This spot is good until you unlock endgame agris spots cause Jade eats away at your agris, I can only grind here every 2 days for example.
but don't be discouraged if you can't get over 30k or 40k on your first few attempts! its all a learning process and it also took me some time to get used to the spot and now after grinding hours and hours I can get over 40k on most classes EVEN if I haven't grinded a SINGLE HOUR on those classes.
Enjoy the learning process :-)
Is it better than Kratuga considering Kratuga doesnt spend that much Agris?
Pavel did it with an insane quick class (nova) and he used broken crystals back then that doesnt exist anymore.
@@MiraMaj1 Good 'ol demihuman crystals ^ ^
@@_Aynix I'd say its better than kratuga yea, and i say that even though kratuga is one of my favourite spots
yeahhh my valk only does like half of your damage at 284 ap, 10b in crystals and with event buffs lmao
my average was 18k with my best hour being 21k and that was with agris and a yellow scroll. 298-291 ap with a succ lahn. my real issue was that i never could manage to pull multiple elite packs together without them instantly resetting. if i had ground this efficiently have gotten my flame 15-20 hours sooner
Started here about a month ago and had a 1-2 hour grinding session 2-3 times a week. Got like 18k trash an hour. Now I'm pulling 32-35k. Highly underrated spot even in endgame imo
Yea for endgame it kinda just eats too much agris besides that it’s crazy
Nicely done. Best guide for Jade. I only hit 20-23.5k and now I know why. Thank you.
Thanks for the great video. We needed a no BS guide to jade for a while now.
sorry for the delay bro haha
@@vyus do you run demi human dmg lighstones set?
@@jforce268 nah I don’t, but I really should.
Thank you very much for this guide. I used to do the rotation right after the quest guide and usually made like 23k trash (277ap/331dp), tried your rotation and with extremely scuffed hour (died a couple of times because of pulling two packs of elites together) i made 28.5k (probably 30k+ without deaths). There is a lot of room to grow so yeah, probably can make like 35k
Update the next day, grinded another hour and made 33k trash, again, thanks to your guide
@@resdon4860 good job bro keep going at it
granted i suck at this game mechanically, but watching this literally boosted my trash per hour from like 16k to 30k. not even joking i had no idea about the elixirs, and i was "grinding" up front near the daily npc. thank you so much dude
HELL YEA THIS IS WHAT I WANNA SEE
I kept getting stunned from flame so thank you for this guide
Just an fyi its only the jade lamp that knocks down. It also doesn't knock down the big guy so its not worth the time to dps it down on that elite
This was hilarious at times, and very informative, thanks! I am a bit confused though, at first you say just kill them where they are, but later you show how to pull them. Can I get those numbers with just killing totem then killing mob at spot? Hilarious subtitles too. Did you use a bot for that or something? It was just so bad. I read it anyway, it was I couldn't look away.
Basically you kill the small ones as elites where they are and you don’t pull them to next packs.
UNLESS it’s in that one spot and you can get a 3x pull.
And yea it’s auto captions done by capcut
finallyyy xd ty for the guide homieee
4:13 Obviously we wanna use Volkswagen
Summary of this "guide".
The most important things are :
1) Totems are not affected by AP cap. The more Ap you have the better.
2)Totems not only look different but also have different effects. The most important effect is knockback.
3) Don't pull more than 6 mobs to single totem. They will receive a DP buff which will make them stronger.
4)Do not pull those smaller goblin like elites to normal group of mobs. The are very slow and will reset often. (Sometime it is viable thou)
Practice will bring results eventually. Playing smarter and not harder is the key.
And a small personal note "This game is a marathon rather than sprint"
bro is HIM good summary
I'd add:
- Use protection when you kill the totems ( besides the brazier, that one doesn't knock you down )
- Don't overcomplicate your combos on your class, all that matters is killing the totem fast
- Elixirs are not a must but will increase your trash by 2-5k
ty :]
Finally, ty !
Can I ask do you prioritize the totem or you destroy the totem ask you kill the mobs?
Hey love the vid ! what ur outfit?
the real reason beside the rotation and mistakes are the fact you are over 300 ap and most people sitting 280-290 so its ok to do 30k t/loot with 280 ap
280 = 30k sounds reasonable, starting like 289 40k is doable (I know cause I did it)
@@vyusr1 yes im 281 and 390 dp and with succ zerker i pull 28-29k
Can you make a guide for Lahn Orc Camp?
Thanks for the guide! This helped me a lot in understanding how to grind in Jade Forest. However, can this be applicable to a 281 AP kutum Archer? I just get about 20k trash loots with Agris and Yellow scrolls. I probably might be doing it wrong.
with that AP you can get 30k for sure
@@vyus thanks. highest i got so far is 23k using frenzy and perfumes. Ill try next the elix rotation.
I kill packs quite fast and try to lure medium/big elites to another pack but I still barely get 30k with agris + yellow. No idea what Im doing wrong. ALso main rotation has multiple spots where its just too far to pull elite to another pack w/o reseting them. Do you wait for the elites to spawn and then pull them or you just jump from pack to pack and when you notice they are elites then you pull? Waiting for the elites to spawn feels like waste of time but Im not sure
when i kill a pack and see the message that elite spawns i just try to remember and pull them on the next rotation but never wait
what are the songs in the background ? sounds like some lo-fi metallica covers :o great guide btw!
yea I just looked up metallica lofi haha, don't have the playlist link though. ty
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the unforgiven - metallica
@@spektre2381 thank u !
fake video honestly, 25k-30k is the max you can get here stop lying
I’m gonna touch you thugbat
dont threaten me with a good time
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i think this might be legit , a steamer just did it with agris ofc 38k trash
Yeah idk how yall do it im succ ninja 290ap 356dp and im pulling 16k using courage,giant,simple cron im def doing it right cause every one of my abilities is aoe shud i be running elixers and if so i need more dp
it appears that you're not doing it right though, succ ninja is one of the best classes there and on my first try every succ ninja i got 43k
there is a video of a guy getting 59k trash on succ ninja, i watched it and tried learning from that.
I didn't know this was with Agris and I tried YS and only got 15k would agris make a big difference? Is this an agris only spot?
yes its an agris spot
It's a good agris spot because it burns slowly. At least until you go past 301 ap. Then the speed might make it burn fast.
What class are you using and is it good for pvp and pve?
I’m playing Lahn and id say she is good for both
So basically there are 3 totems, one of them give explosives, great explanation, but what about the others ? What about the one in middle of packs (the brazier one) ? What do they do ? You forgot to explain what the other 2 do.
I legit say in the video I don’t know what the totems do exactly, it’s just important to know that they all explode on kill
one totem gives CC, means as soon the totem breaks everyone gets CC'ed (stunned on the ground) and if you also too close you also get the CC unless you have , super armor skill active when it breaks.
the second totem gives high explosive damage
and the third one gives increased damage to the mobs affected by the totem.
that is pretty much what i found out..
the only thing you have to be careful with is the "jade starlamp" or whatever its called.. thats the one doing CC
@@raz6864 Thank you for reply. Great info.
Sadly, with my 295 ap succ DK I did like 11k trash/h. I just realized how important skill add-ons, crystals and lightstones are. Also just found out that if I am at AP cap, best way to increase damage is to stack demihuman/kama/human damage (demihuman at jade forest from what I've seen).
Quick question: Would Extra monster damage apply when ap cap ? Asking as the lightstones for human/demi/kama are a bit expensive. At least until I can buy the proper ones.
The tall "Lamp" knocks the mobs down (including you so use superarmor when it dies) plus it explodes like the others, it's mega dmg (down attacks), I think the most out of all 3 totems, when you kill the lamp you insta kill the pack pretty much.
The small brazier just leaves "explosives" behind, and I think a debuff that "burns" the mobs a bit (not sure on the last part).
The other tall one idk, I didn't pay attention...tbh only the lamp matters because it's a double edged sword, but it's amazing once you get the timing right and you use SA skills when it dies.
Basically they all leave those "explosives" behind and debuff the mobs with 1 DP debuff, then each mob that dies debuff all the others still alive with 1 extra DP debuff until they are like paper to you.
@@Valyoyoable if you are at AP cap, get demihuman dmg lightstone combo for this spot, afaik it goes beyond regular AP cap, idk about other types of AP, you might have to research on that.
my max was 29k600 at hashashin awakening, 293ap
i think different AP bracket has different strategy am i right?
for sure, if you're very high up in AP you dont have to double pull, you just kill elites
is it viable if i only have 340 dp? or do i stick to kratuga till i get to 350?
its doable but can be scary if youre not good at your class
@@vyus I see, then I’m guessing I won’t be as efficient either. I’ll just wait till I caphras my way to 350dp
I started at 278/340 and it was not enjoyable. Back now at 293/364 and it's night and day difference.
@@JamieR damn, guess ill have to wait
crystal build lol ?
crystal build is depending on your AP and Accuracy, but main goal is to stack as much ap as you can.
What's your rotation with succ lahn?
watch the lahn guide on my channel :)
I've watched it before but I doubt you use the full combo at Jade. What's your combo at Jade?
@@WetFlamez still same=
F - S+F - LMB
By then the pack is usually dead
On the next pack I use crescent barrage or blade dance as filller
anyone here tried this on marni? is it capped to around 15k/h in marni? I've only been running in marni..
nvm, tried it again, it's 20k/h with agris fire on
marni is also 40k+ with 301ap
@@vyus I'm back, now I have 298 ap with elix + lightstone demihuman..I'm still making 15k/h, how much for tutor bro
@@radrenVideos dm me on discord, we can discuss there, discord: vyus
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Well, I must say that I am still not convinced on your numbers at that spot, I already knew all those mechanics, and you missed the one on the respawn of Erebjork (Guardian miniboss), I already tried the spot outside Marni room and I also changed from "weak point" to vicious shadows" and also "demi humans attack" on lightstones, and still my best push is 32k/hr on Musa and he is 310AP fast as hell, with T-5 and 4T-4 pets, I only lack on the PTW tent but I used furniture buff instead, I might say the best place for horse is at the top (where the other player met you during video), there you can easily get access to it from many sides during rotation. Maybe it is your cristals or maybe my class is not that good. Still, thanks for video.
I didn't mention boss spawn cause it slows you down and is kinda self explaining. boss spawns = kill boss.
and even without good crystals and all that min maxing 40k is still easy.
I grinded 1 hour on musa which I have NEVER ever played before, I learned the combo for 10 minutes and went grinding with 750 weight in my inventory.
I ended up getting 38k trash with 300 AP.
Trash just depends on understanding the spot.
As I said in the video, I coached my friend who got 27k before and after my coaching now gets 39k on 293 A.Musa.
imgur.com/a/UM3yIov here is the hour
ur just horrible at the game than its very easy git gud thanks :)
@@vyus 12 to 18 extra caphras and a pity part of the flame always good from Guardian miniboss (worth mentioning), 38k/hr with Musa!!!??, I would certainly like to see full video, I have played Musa Awak for 2 years and I have gotten almost all above average trash/hr at many places, like you; I am a dedicated student of all spots and mechs, it is weird the only mark I can't accomplish is this 40k, I usually grind Yzrahid, Dehkia or Gyfin lower, but when I saw your last video about those 54k or 45k/hr casual at Jade (almost double than me), I was like OMG what did I miss?, why am I not even close?. Still thanks for video and reply's.
@@fenixcisne the boss is usually not worth cause it slows down your grind and the trash you could get during the boss time is probably worth more than the caphras,
But yea I don’t rly play Musa I just really tagged it to grind 1 hour.
There are many videos out there though of people getting over 50k at jade I recommend watching them.
Idk when I’ll upload a jade video since I’m only grinding crypt rn.
dude say that frenzy has no use anymore when ulukita is a thing, just delusional-
He says he’s not using them because he grinds here, he literally reiterates that they are useful and that he’s not saying to not use them Lmao
Bro i have 300ap I DONT think i can get 22k trash here.. at 285-290 I only made 16k.. I only done marni though
Bro watch the video😭🔥🔥 could also be that you are doing wrong DPS rotation for your class idk
with 300 AP you are probably 150-200 over the 30% softcap. Definitely not a gear issue.. classes matter a lot though.
@@Lethmyr_ class matters a lot here yea but its definitley 100% more about understanding how to grind here.
I grinded with random classes that I tagged 1 time just to prove a point (classes I never played) and I got 38-42k on my first tries.
With this ap 30k should be your lowest with agris and YLS. Even my succ guardian would average 34k at this ap.
@@Lethmyr_ Watch the video homie, he mentions that you stack as much ap as possible here, becuse you want to kill the flags/braziers as fast as possible and they are not AP capped