From 7:38 to the end of the vid was identical to a flight I had from Huntsville, Alabama to West Palm Beach, Florida in a Cessna 210. About 4 hours of nothing until I saw the runway at West Palm Beach. Thanks for taking us along 👍
On Greg Minks channel Premier 1 Driver a viewer mentioned your name and said that you were much like his podcast. So I came on over and subscribed. Thanks for your work and videos.
Interesting to go back and watch this video and compare it to your current videos. That panel looks amazing for a 421. Technical question: So minimums were raised by the NOTAM, did you go missed at minimums? Or use that altitude as a MDA and wait until the runway to go missed?
It was a great panel! If the minimums for an ILS are raised, you continue on the glide slope until hitting the new raised MDA and that’s where you go missed. You don’t treat it like a non-precision approach and continue to a missed approach point.
I’m sorry I worded that wrong. I meant DA, not MDA. However now that I think about it more, maybe I was incorrect and it should have been treated as an MDA. I can’t remember the exact wording of the NOTAM now, but either way I wouldn’t have seen the runway that day. I’ll have to check next time I see a NOTAM about ILS minimums.
I’ve been flying since 1981 and instrument rated since 1985 and other than training and recurrency in sims, never had a missed approach, a course reversal, or a hold.
I have about 950 hours in the 421, all but a handful in this airplane and only one flight in a B model. This one is a C model with the trailing link gear, and also has spoilers. It really is the king of piston twins. It’s a stable IFR platform and lands like a dream. I had landings where I barely felt the touchdown with that trailing link gear! For passengers, it’s quiet, roomy, and a pretty smooth ride through turbulence. It does come at a premium of more maintenance than other planes though.
I only have a handful of hours in the 414. The owner was considering those two when moving up and a typical mission for us was 500nm or less, with a few stretching out to 750ish. I think useful load was why they decided to go with the 421. The two fullest I’ve had was 1) a family trip with 4 adults (including myself), two toddlers and luggage and we were able to top off the tanks 2) a business trip with 6 men plus myself, but we could only take 2hrs of gas on this one. They have about the same cabin size, and I think they fly about the same with the exception of landings without trailing link gear. The 421 is quieter and has less vibration from the engines.
It was a missed approach on the ILS RWY 27 at KGSH, followed by a landing at KEKM. If you look closely at the altimeter after I was going missed, you can see I transitioned from a descent to a climb. A “missed approach” is an instrument procedure where you have to abort the approach to landing, most often because you weren’t able to see the runway but could also be because you got off course too far or equipment anomaly/failure.
OMG... add cameras focused on the instruments... some on the pic/copilot... atc audio and edit your voice or words into the final editing? THIS VIDEO would've been so much more informative. Otherwise, it was very magnetic.
From 7:38 to the end of the vid was identical to a flight I had from Huntsville, Alabama to West Palm Beach, Florida in a Cessna 210. About 4 hours of nothing until I saw the runway at West Palm Beach. Thanks for taking us along 👍
On Greg Minks channel Premier 1 Driver a viewer mentioned your name and said that you were much like his podcast. So I came on over and subscribed. Thanks for your work and videos.
Thanks for checking out my channel, glad to have you here!
@@GrantBaker I’m starting from the beginning of your journey. Thank you for the response. I appreciate it.
Gotta get an audio adapter so we can get some audio 👌
It’s on my list!
Thanks for the content! Love the twin cessnas
Thanks Blake, I really enjoyed flying it! We upgraded to the PC-12 in June so our 421C is currently on the market if you’re interested. 😉
@@GrantBaker have a link? I am in a mooney bravo and not going anywhere for the next year but I know some folks that are looking at 414's etc
Yeah, sure! www.barteltaviation.com/inventory/?/listings/aircraft/for-sale/194887483/1981-cessna-421c?dlr=1&pcid=20&ssf=0
I joined and liked.
NICE Job Dude :)
Thanks Adam! Not too often you have to go missed in the real world.
@@GrantBaker Yaa, but you can see your confidence and how you are way ahead of the airplane the whole time. ,)
Interesting to go back and watch this video and compare it to your current videos. That panel looks amazing for a 421.
Technical question:
So minimums were raised by the NOTAM, did you go missed at minimums? Or use that altitude as a MDA and wait until the runway to go missed?
It was a great panel! If the minimums for an ILS are raised, you continue on the glide slope until hitting the new raised MDA and that’s where you go missed. You don’t treat it like a non-precision approach and continue to a missed approach point.
@@GrantBaker I can’t remember ever running into this scenario- in real life or theoretically. Will have to think about it.
I’m sorry I worded that wrong. I meant DA, not MDA. However now that I think about it more, maybe I was incorrect and it should have been treated as an MDA. I can’t remember the exact wording of the NOTAM now, but either way I wouldn’t have seen the runway that day. I’ll have to check next time I see a NOTAM about ILS minimums.
I’ve been flying since 1981 and instrument rated since 1985 and other than training and recurrency in sims, never had a missed approach, a course reversal, or a hold.
Yep this is one of only a handful of missed approaches that I’ve had.
@@GWNHomestead Pointing out how rare it is to have missed approaches, course reversals, and holds. Nothing to do with my achievements.
@@GWNHomestead Accepted, thanks.
PARABÉNS. BEATYFUL LANDING. LINDO POUSO.
Would love your thoughts on flying this model.
I have about 950 hours in the 421, all but a handful in this airplane and only one flight in a B model. This one is a C model with the trailing link gear, and also has spoilers. It really is the king of piston twins. It’s a stable IFR platform and lands like a dream. I had landings where I barely felt the touchdown with that trailing link gear! For passengers, it’s quiet, roomy, and a pretty smooth ride through turbulence. It does come at a premium of more maintenance than other planes though.
Grant Baker thanks. Considering the 421C or 414A as a family of four with a dog. Most trips 300nm or less. A few 500.
I only have a handful of hours in the 414. The owner was considering those two when moving up and a typical mission for us was 500nm or less, with a few stretching out to 750ish. I think useful load was why they decided to go with the 421. The two fullest I’ve had was 1) a family trip with 4 adults (including myself), two toddlers and luggage and we were able to top off the tanks 2) a business trip with 6 men plus myself, but we could only take 2hrs of gas on this one. They have about the same cabin size, and I think they fly about the same with the exception of landings without trailing link gear. The 421 is quieter and has less vibration from the engines.
Missed approach? But it wasn't missed. The plane landed.
It was a missed approach on the ILS RWY 27 at KGSH, followed by a landing at KEKM. If you look closely at the altimeter after I was going missed, you can see I transitioned from a descent to a climb. A “missed approach” is an instrument procedure where you have to abort the approach to landing, most often because you weren’t able to see the runway but could also be because you got off course too far or equipment anomaly/failure.
Hi how is your plane
How high?
The minimums were NOTAMed higher than the standard 200’ that day. I went missed around 300’ AGL.
#1000.
OMG... add cameras focused on the instruments... some on the pic/copilot... atc audio and edit your voice or words into the final editing? THIS VIDEO would've been so much more informative. Otherwise, it was very magnetic.
Not much for the uninitiated viewer.
If only I’d had something set up to record cockpit audio for that one!😭