Family Fun In The Flying Suburban | Pilatus PC-12NG
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2023
- Hop onboard the Flying Suburban with me and my family for a trip to Kissimmee Florida. I had my yearly recurrent training while the family got a vacation!
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The ultimate test of a pilot's calmness...... the whole family on board haha.
Nice flight as usual, dude.
Nice flight. Driving was always a challenge with the whole family. I can’t imagine being a pilot. Kids looked like they were having fun. Thanks for taking us along.
Oh they had the time of their lives! We do some 15+ hour road trips to visit my folks, so a 4hr flight isn’t too bad for them. And it helps a lot that the PC12 has a lav available.
Thank you for sharing. Looking very nice.
Just subscribed because your Timelapse was done so well. Using the center audio was a great addition, plus the bass drop as you transitioned back to normal speed. Well done.
The effort and work to make the content is very much appreciated! This vid was suggested, glad it was. Good stuff 👍👍
Thanks Nathan!
As always awesome thanks
Nice job handling all the pilot AND atc duties, you make it look easy. I like how you talk your way through it all. Cheers.
Thanks!
Nice flight and video Grant. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Ryan!
Thanks for the great flight and channel! Happy Easter to you and your family!
Thanks and happy Easter to you as well!
Another great video! Cool to see you were able to bring your family on this trip
Thanks Chase! It’s always awesome when I’m able to bring them along.
Love that NGX panel!
thanks Sr fantastic video good luck forever
What a Beautiful, Mega Beautiful Aircraft!!!
Yes it is!
Glad I found this channel. Just up the road in Elkhart and work in SB at the fire department. Enjoyed the flight.
Wonderful trip. You have a beautiful family. Good times. Thanks for the ride! :)
Great video! Taking the whole family along must be awesome!
I love it when I have the opportunity to bring my family along!
Another great flight Grant........thanks for having us along for the ride!! Enjoy your time with your family...safe travels!!!!
Thanks John!
Muy buenas avionetas soy apacionado me LLa Milder Mora vivo en calle Mora de Rio Nuevo😢😮😅😊🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤ como están buenas Noches los saludo en el corazón de señor
Great video, thanks so much for sharing. Love that airplane too!
I really enjoyed your video. Thanks.
It looks like a lot of fun
Nothing like the sound of a turboprop spooling up! Great video! Got to do more of those split screens for my videos! Blue skies!
A PT6 startup has to be one of the best sounds there is!😍
Outstanding!! Great flight and landing. You are a good son in law! They should be proud as I am sure they are aware.
Thanks Anthony!
Loved it!
Nice flight and video. I'm not normally a fan on the time lapse on flight videos but I thought this worked well. The views above the cloud lines were great.
Great video! Taking the whole family along must be awesome!. Great video! Taking the whole family along must be awesome!.
Thanks! Yep it’s awesome that I’m able to do that sometimes!
Looks like the fam had as much fun as you did.
They sure did!
Try Bentley. Nothing that costs between 4 to 5 million can be compared to a suburban.
And as much as I loved the utility of my Suburban, I would never get aboard a plane compared to one. The wings would probably fall off about V1.
Just a term of endearment. It is a fully functional utility vehicle.😅
Grant I got the weather Briefing and filed and always have a Great Family flight and a wonderful Easter Weekend knowing that what Easter is all about
Thanks Bernard, happy Easter!
Enjoyed it.
Very much appreciate you posting a video of your gorgeous airplane. Thank you sir. Hope you guys had a good time.
Another epic video! Thanks for sharing mate!! Really cool. :)
Thanks Tim!
Nice job. You made it look easy
Thanks! I’ve had a lot of practice. 😉
I used to live just N of the airfield off CR40. I loved living there - with the airport in our back yard, when they'd have the Airshow over the July 4th weekend, having an airshow in my backyard as I was grilling burgers, with an F-18 Hornet doing high G turns over my backyard was kind of cool. We moved south the Spring of 2014, but my wife is originally from outside Shipshe... great vid!
That would have been prime location for the airshow!
@@GrantBaker It was - plus afterwards, we didn't have to fight the traffic. We had 1/2 an acre for plenty of parking for friends...
Great video
Hi Grant and family. Great little flight, and thanks for the additional flight info . As always, thanks for the flight stats. Looks like a great time was had by all.
Thanks Mark, we did have a great time!
Just came across your channel in my feed. Subbed. Great looking plane and family. Definitely a bucket list item, to come flying in the US one day. Got my CPL flight test coming up this week 🛩👍
Awesome! Best of luck with your checkride!
Very nice flight. Hope to see you at PDk sometime.
Terrific
The four camera view is awesome I hope you do more
Thanks!
Amazing side footage between 11:22 to 13:30. Those cumulonimbus clouds were a nice catch.
Thanks Micha!
Love your channel.. You fly a great aircraft!! Very informative flts also!! Thx….
Thank you, I love flying this airplane!
Great Video. Thanks for Sharing. It’s Been Awhile Since I
I have always loved your aircraft and you handle and fly it in a wonderful way. Done like you do it seems easier to fly than the PA28 I fly! Thanks a lot for your videos!
The PC12 is a joy to fly! Things happen faster than they do in your Cherokee, but it’s a very forgiving and easy handling airplane.
@@GrantBaker Maybe I found a pilot in Italy to do a test flight! I can't wait! 🤞
Oh that’s awesome! You’ll love flying it!
Nice Narration😁 did we here? " mnemonic, GIFYP ...Gear, Inertial seperator, Flaps, Yaw damper, & Pressurization differential.." ?
Yep, turbine version of GUMPS
Grant, this is one of the very best in-flight videos [private plane] I've seen, tons of kudos for the superbly matching soundtrack!⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐👌
(PS: new sub < 🇳🇴😉!)
Welcome to the channel Eric!🥳
Nice.
cool vid, awesome to see the clouds forming and moving in your fast motion part. God's earth is so cool! Safe travels to you and your family.
Thanks!
I have been seeing this thumbnail for 2 weeks I guess. I finally clicked to watch it 😂 I'm now a subscriber too 🤗
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Awesome flight video. So cool to have your family along. The one picture, the kids look like they could be ornery.😅
Oh yeah they are!
It’s been awhile since I’ve flown GA. Nice direct on departure. Lol. Enjoyed the video!
Yeah I get direct all over the midwest. It’s pretty nice!
Turbine suburban, LOL, nice description! But there are a LOT of parents who thank the gods that GM invented the Suburban or they'd have trouble finding a van that could haul their kids around. My parents had the short version, the 4 dr Yukon. They sold it to my uncle who found it SO handy that he drove it until it completely died. I KNOW he poured over 200,000 miles on it. ON top of the over 70,000 my parents put on it before...
We have a minivan and I love it. Tons of baggage space and with the seats folded down I can fit full 4x8 sheets of plywood flat on the floor! But growing up in the country on dirt roads, minivans got beat up bad and a suburban was the best thing to have!
Great video can you zoom in on the PFD so we can see headings and airspeeds. Also, write in the clearance and frequency change it helps a lot for us studying ifr.
Have you tried watching with subtitles/cc turned on?
😮😮woow
Just came across this video randomly and I hear Goshen traffic, this is where I learned to fly with Roger at New Horizons. So cool to find your channel, I love this video. Great stuff.
Roger is the man!
@@GrantBaker he sure is, one of the best humans around. As is his wife, Ronda.
Yep! I instructed for them years ago.
@@GrantBaker that's cool, I got my license there in 2019. I still live in the area.
Now that's a family sedan you can really brag about in school. Listen to that gas generator fire up. Music to the old ear drums.
Yeah the PT6 startup is 🔥!
Awesome flight and video once again Grant. I'm currently busy with my IF training, and if all goes well I should test for Com before the end of the month.
Awesome Franco! Good luck and let me know how it goes!
Nice flight Grant!
Haven’t been to Goshen yet but I hear their CTAF being in Holland Mi
I’ll get down there soon
Come on down, it’s a great place! There’s an informal hamburger fly-in every first Friday of the month except for during the winter. That would be a great excuse to make the trip!
@@GrantBaker I'll do that :)
I am never envious. Never! Until today. 🤷🏽♂️
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I hope you put your family up at Disney's Hotel and they spent time at the park. Have fun.
Didn’t go to Disney, but they had a great time!
👍👍
I worked as a valet in college at a really nice country club. A big Ole Escalade rolls up, and out hops this little toddler in khakis and a really nice button up, both which probably cost more than any of my clothes at home. He hands me a $1 bill and says "here you go, FREE MONEY." I have never felt so degraded by anyone in my whole life 😂
Hopefully there's no valet for this plane
Oh man, that’s frustrating!
Wish you could come into ORL!
ISM is just across town! You just have to fight Disney traffic for an hour to get there. 😅
Great flight and awesome video, just wondering what is the localizer for and why it's using Moss code (?) -- before entering landing procedures.
The localizer gives us horizontal course guidance for landing during poor visibility. Sometimes we use it to help make sure we are lining up with the correct runway. The morse code is so that we know whether it's working and making sure we have the correct frequency tuned in.
Having battled dyslexia all my life, I noticed Jet Edge 407 was given (20:36) the command to "...turn right heading two seven zero..." and it was read back as "...and right turn two zero seven."
I hadn’t noticed that! Apparently neither did ATC, or decided not to correct them.
fellow Hoosier!!!
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Awesome landing how do you keep the noise from kids down
Haha they do pretty well in the airplane even when they get to ride up front.
Ha, I fly out of Plymouth C65.
Awesome, I landed there yesterday actually!
I like your editing, family and flying, trip data, views and video, all excellent. You seem ahead of the plane all the time, so that is great. I notice how often other 'flying video' pilots seem to over control and mentally struggle, especially flying and talking at the same time and you do not, very professional. Enjoyable. Why am I interested? Well this is they year I buy something, candidates are New PC12NGX, Honda Elite 2, TBM 960 or secondhand PA42 Cheyenne 1000. Odd choice, have always been a fan of the Cheyanne, speed with 5 blade props 340 knots, range around 2000 nm. A small toilet, somewhat cheap less than a million, leaving room for updates. But massive uncertainty regarding spares. The Honda brings speed, 420 knots, a toilet, and 1480 nm range, but a small cabin, with few seats, all very attractive but I would soon fill it, all with excellent warranties on all components. Then the PC 12, the only down side is the speed. Slow in the climb, slow in the cruise, in fact under all conditions slow, downside - meaning head winds can bite a huge chunk out of ground speed, as a percentage of performance, adding trip time, yet the cabin is exceptional. So difficult choice. So keep flying and posting, I am learning more about the PC12 here on your channel than anywhere else, cheers, it sure is an exceptional aircraft. However, night flying in bad weather makes me think another engine might be handy, but the PT6 is an exceptional engine, great reliability being the counter argument, so who knows .. I am still undecided.
Thanks! Those are all good choices of planes in my opinion. We operated a Cessna 421C before upgrading to the PC12 and not having to worry as much about parts availability has been a nice relief. That could be an issue with the Cheyenne, although I'm not very familiar with maintenance on that plane, just basing that off it's age. Good luck with the search!
I guess, speed(250 knots in the climb !(440 Cruise) 2000 range' cabin size, put all that together and what do you get ??? PC 24 !! Costs a fortune, need a few second hand ones to appear first. You never know ?? @@GrantBaker
Did you really get lucky enough to get GSH direct OCF or did I hear wrong?
Nope you heard correct! 😍
yall seem normal for disney people
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Rich rich
question, does the ng have auto wind correction while taxing or you had to set the autopilot/ yaw damper to correct it
No the autopilot won’t help you on the ground. If you turned it on, it would actually hinder you because it would resist your rudder pedal inputs, which is how you steer on the ground.
@@GrantBaker thank you for responding, just was wondering why the pilatus yoke was moving during the rudder inputs. i know it is wind correcting but is the rudder and yoke systems connected that it does automatic wind correcting when you taxi?
@aceflywings6632 ah, yes that’s for in flight. There is an elastic connection between the rudder and aileron to help keep the rudder coordinated in turns. On the ground it doesn’t really help with anything other than I guess it keeps the ailerons from flopping around in wind.
@@GrantBaker thank you very much for explaining. it makes sense now. i know in flight school, we don’t have those and it got my curiosity
6 kids! Criminal
Be careful, another family just like yours broke up in flight and crashed in Central Florida about 5 years ago.
Could phave been overloaded + bad weather.
That was a terribly sad accident. 😢 Unfortunately, that one was 100% pilot error and wasn’t the result of overloading or bad weather.
Grant, they change the measurement of torque again? (Inches)?
No sorry, I misspoke there. I should’ve said pounds since it’s PSI.
@@GrantBaker no apologies please!
I am about to schedule the initial pc12 NG at simcom in orlando and feel that your videos have been a huge advance prep for me.
Keep it up.
Awesome! Have fun flying it, it’s a great plane. Are you an owner or are you going to be flying one 91/135?
Would love to see some of your Simcom training. All in sim or some in the airplane?
All sim. I had planned to include some of it, but they said they don’t allow it. 😢
@@GrantBaker last time I was there it was a lot of paperwork to use the airplane. Wasn’t worth it.
Sorry I wasn’t very clear there. I meant I had planned to include footage of training but they wouldn’t allow it which was disappointing. They still offer in-aircraft training along with sim if you want but I didn’t look into it.
@@GrantBaker gotcha
@@GrantBaker The fact your company lets you take the plane down and not fly commercial by yourself is amazing.
Direct ocf from South bend? Must have been a slow day.
Always a slow day in the Midwest!😉 I almost always get that going down to Orlando.
@@GrantBaker I get three fixes going from ocala to sarasota.
Yeah I can get direct OCF, but south of there is always fixes.
A lot of admin all that radio chatter phew nice PC 12
Right here in Goshen??
Yessir!
thats funny to see your maps zoomed so far out where you can see the entire Eastern US. I was flying yesterday and I'm so zoomed in I don't even have the whole state in view haha
Haha yeah I like it zoomed out pretty far so I can see the big picture. Unless I’m close to weather. 😄
That sky did not look “clear” at Goshen on departure
An AWOS can only see up to 12,000’ AGL, so “clear” really means clear below 12,000’. It could be a solid overcast at 15,000 and the awos would still report clear.
Came here just to say I think you should call it the TurBurban
Haha I like it!
Are you listening to the new frequency before you transmit right away!???
Oh yeah, definitely! I try to wait a bit before switching to allow ATC to correct a bad read back and also before transmitting on the new frequency so I hopefully don’t step on somebody. I just usually cut those pauses out for brevity.
Total curiosity here: How much $ was the fuel for the trip, one way?
Well it was 1519lbs @ 6.75lbs/gal so that’s 225gal. I don’t remember what the fuel price was when we made this flight, but at $5, that’s $1,125.
@@GrantBaker thats not bad at all. You couldnt buy plane tickets for the whole family for that much.
Great Q&A. I’d be curious about the price per hour.
$1,125/3.4hrs is $330.88/hr
@@dskainsyou can buy a lot of airline tickets for the cost of the plane, insurance, maintenance, hanger….the list goes on and on. The recurring training he is going to is probably 5,000$
But this is more fun!!
I like too fly in a PC-12 ? Anyone giving rides in the Savannah GA. Area?
Don’t have to hold the starter once it’s engaged.
That’s correct and I don’t hold it. I press start and then guard the start interrupt button until introducing fuel.
Can you post a link or video on how you are able to afford this plane, life etc? What type of businesses have allowed you this freedom, success etc?? I'm sure many would love to see a how I got here video
I can’t go into those details since I don’t own it. I fly it for a business. I do have a video where I share a recap of my career in aviation though!
czcams.com/video/eGVfIcKCuDE/video.html
Well a 5million dollar suburban. You are 8 people so that takes a certain size but there is huge potential in light car seat config twin jets, like a twin jet version of an SR22 or Lancair 4. Jet engines for an 800kg MTOW plane can be very small thus inexpensive to mass produce so you could easily imagine such a plane in the 300k$ range. And similarly less expensive to operate. It would be a revolution in aviation. A PC12 costs private jet money yet only has one engine and a front noise maker. Can't even fly it over water so it's quite a high price. 300k for family private jet freedom is a very different prospect. You could even imagine a lavatory in it, just plumbingless one time use inserts and wet wipes. Very civilized, even transatlantic capable.
I think you’re being a bit too optimistic about things. $300k won’t get you an SR22, which is over $1M even if it’s a couple years old. Cirrus does have a jet, the SF50 Vision Jet. It’s just a single engine and costs over $3 million. Compared to the PC12, it is about 20kts faster, carries half what the 12 does, has less range, is a bit more expensive to operate, and doesn’t have a lav like the PC12 does.
I have the same plane and it is very cheep and good it only costs 2000000
Going to see the mouse in FL
We considered it but didn’t end up going. Maybe another time
Nice to have money
What does NG stand for?
It stands for Next Generation
@@GrantBaker thank you, Grant.
what number should be one zero ten thousand?? @8:21 . European pilot here.
10,000. Not sure where that started, but a lot of pilots and controllers say it that way in the states for altitudes in the teens. The verbal version of writing 10(ten) thousand
OMG, those clouds look too white.... can they paint them a more inclusive color, like rainbow?
Do you own the aircraft or fly for a company?
I fly it for a company.
Why are you waiting for 1,000' for flaps? Why are you waiting for 3,000' for the inertial sep?
I have been waiting for 1,000’ to keep me closer to the airport in the event of engine failure. However, I was talking with a training provider down at the POPA convention who said he’s seen that it works out better to go flaps up at 100KIAS and then extend the flaps to 15 in the turn back. I’ll have to try both scenarios at my recurrent next month. Inertial Separator at 3,000’ is for bird strike protection.
@@GrantBaker Right on. I’ve always done: positive rate, out of usable, gear up, inertial closed (if not going into precipitation), yaw damp on, lights
400’: clear any obstacles, 100 KTS plus 10 (I like a buffer) - flaps up.
I want the speed coming in asap so I can trade it for glide getting back to the airport. Should be past 120 plus KTS by the 1,000 foot requirement to turn back putting me in a perfect place to do so.
@@GrantBaker Also, maybe I'll run into you at KCAC one day.
Hey maybe so! Regarding the inertial separator, I don’t remember ever hitting 780°C before 3,000’, but I’m almost always flying out of lower elevation airports (under 2000’MSL), and rarely see over 100° temps. Higher elevation and high temps would probably make you want to close it earlier, especially in the mountains.
So you own that pilatus?
No, I fly it for a corporation.
@@GrantBaker oh, well still. Must be nice lol. I love it! They let you use it for personal use also?
Oh, good God but I can’t believe some of the comments. Grant Baker doesn’t own the Pilatus, The company he works for owns the airplane, and he’s an employee who happens to be a qualified private pilot. His bosses let him fly the Pilatus from time to time, so don’t let the videos fool you. Tell you what, let’s cut the crap about the “lifestyles of the rich and famous.” Grant Baker is a hard-working American with a great family, so lay off him.
I’m actually an ATP, and flying the plane for the company that owns it *is* my job.
@@GrantBaker That was a quick reply. My wife were going to drive to Disney World this week but circumstances got in the way. Maybe next year. Looks like the entire family had a blast. Fly safe. That’s all I ask.
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In case no one has said it yet. Turburban.
Music too loud on top of ATC. I would rather hear them than music. Otherwise nice video. Make more please.
Yeah that can be a bit of a challenge to balance sometimes. Out of curiosity were you using headphones or speakers?