The Curious Case of Lance Stroll
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
- Let's take at Lance Stroll's racing journey so far. He jumped from Formula 3 to F1 and has never looked back since. Currently driving for Aston Martin, Lance is the driver to watch for in 2024 and I believe we are in for a surprise this season.
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0:00 Bianca Bustamante drama
1:38 Junior Career
2:38 F1 debut with Williams (2017-2018)
3:43 Racing Point (2019-2020)
5:17 Aston Martin (2021-2022)
6:10 Against Alonso in 2023
7:41 Underperformance?
8:06 Father's influence?
8:56 Worthy of F1?
9:36 Could Astons have finished higher in 2023?
9:48 Contract?
9:56 Improvements - Sport
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Stroll's biggest issue imo has always been consistency; sometimes he shoows up to a race and puts on a stunner (his comeback at COTA comes to mind), and sometimes he shows up and it looks like he's just asleep at the wheel, prompting wonder at how invested he really is in F1 and racing in general. While he's certainly not beating Alonso, I think if he could just show up to 100% of races next season he could do quite well for himself, provided the car is figured out
I think he's a bit like Romain Grosjean while he was still racing with Haas.
ON a good-day, he absolutely punches above his weight.
A bad-day however, and he completely falls flat on his face.
@@SomeoneProbably.
That means, that in good day he scores points, while in bad day he dosent even come close to scoring points. That is not that bad considering only top 10 positions get any points at all. Lance Stroll drivers ranking would propably a lot worse, if top 16 finishes for example scored points, because of Stroll lack of consistency.
This is going to be his 8th season. We need to stop treating Lance like he's a second year driver who just needs more time to develop. It's been almost a decade and a good performance every couple of years does not justify a Formula 1 seat.
Perfectly said he has no business other than his fathers being in f1
F1 is not democracy where you can kick people out that you dont like.
You can say the same thing about alot of drivers in f1
Lol...what are you talking about, his time in F1 has been long over what it should be!
@@babylon4953- Really? How many F1 drivers in F1's history whose father owns an F1 team?
Lance Stroll has an F1 seat for life as long as daddy is around. Lance is immune to the F1 performance data.
Would love to see Lance going back to Williams away from his dad and the pressure that comes with it. Man could thrive or at least find somethings thats been missing
That would be great idea would remove pressure from Lance then he will know if he has achieved the talent to become FI driver
"In a few years he will marture..." bro it's gonna be his 8th season like he's not a baby anymore
These kids be hyping him up thinking his some generational talent, that will eventually reach the level of Verstappen and Leclerc, but to be honest he never was even close to that, when his made most progress in F1 with his daddys money.
You forgot to mention that in f3 there were significant drops in competitors. Many teams and drivers decided not to race since they knew it was futile to race against stroll’s money. Also when he joined the Ferrari academy his father held the largest collection of Ferraris
He had the only gen 6 chassis when everyone else was driving 5s
I belive that his wrist injury has had more affect on his year than people think.
Wrist injuries are not easy to recover from.
He is not on Alonso's level but he is not the worst driver on the grid either.
Apart from the last part of your comment, I’ve been saying this ever since Lance couldn’t finish in the points mid season. I wouldn’t be surprised if Lance vacates the seat to Felipe Drugovich after Belgium this year
I think his wrists were slowing him down at LEAST until summer break, yep
We should stop branding autism as some kind of derogatory term.
Its a condition. Some people have it.
There are people who say that british people have bad teeth, but we dont push for cancelling them and getting them fired from their job
Tbf, basically saying someone has a mental disorder is attacking both groups
"In 2017 he made the leap from Formula 3 to Formula 1, in a similar fashion to Max Verstappen." That is just wrong. That is like saying Charles LaClerc and Nikita Mazepin made a similar jump from F2 to F1; same jump but very dissimilarly made.
While they both Lance and Max made the same 'leap' they were in no other way similar. Red Bull signed Max because their bid for what everyone knew was a generational talent included an F1 seat that other teams couldn't or wouldn't make. Lance made the jump based on the opposite, his dad paying a huge sum to get Lance a seat. For Max it was about the highest bid for Lance about the most desperate cash starved taker. Basically Max was paid to make that jump, Lance paid to make that jump. Rather than similar they are opposite circumstances.
I agree Lance is better than he is often given credit for. However, his jump from F3 to F1 was because his Dad threw a lot of money at a very cash strapped Williams buying Lance the seat. This was thoroughly discussed in the sports media at the time. Without that money he would have had to race F2 and hard to say if he would have made it past there or not. He is not the worse driver on the current grid, but there are other drivers who came up around him who have more talent and potential. So, I'm afraid Lance is always going to have that cloud over his head.
Without his daddys money. I bet Lance Stroll would be driving for backmarker teams like Haas and not mid-field teams like Aston Martin. He would propably last in F1 seven years in some backmarker team and then be done. His not as terrible as somebody, like Mazepin who never deserved F1 seat in the first place. Im not sure how long Lawrence wants to keep Stroll around in Aston Martin with his lack of results, but I think in few season he would want to demote Stroll to Haas where Stroll propably drives only few seasons, unitil his done from F1 for all with no returns anymore, because his not that great driver to make return to F1.
@@Jout8-re1ij I doubt it. Without his Dad's money, he would have never made it into F1. He did very well in Formula 4, but that was about it. His Dad's money kept him in seats. I agree he's better than Mazepin, but that's an awfully low bar for F1.
Some drivers spend years chasing at least one podium position, and Stroll already has 3 of them and a pole position. This puts to rest the discussion about whether he should even have been in F1. However, there are also F2 drivers today who could surpass him easily. Just because he deserved to get in F1 doesn't mean he should keep his place while underperforming.
He is arguably the most powerful driver on the grid where his seat is guaranteed regardless of results. Not even Verstappen can afford that that if he stops winning and starts to perform worse than his teammate he'll be sacked no doubt!
All the negative comments made by plebs on social media he doesn't give a shit, he never reads them, he's too privileged to be affected by them. He doesn't have to put too much effort for PR activities, he can state few words on interview then bugger off and he doesn't have to kiss anyone's ass. Virtually untouchable, very enviable position indeed.
Yet, the world is well aware of his great talent and potential, he himself knows that too. He scored his first podium on his rookie F1 year, he scored pole position some years ago. People dismiss that that he got lucky but everyone needs a luck to score a podium on debut year and he was there and took it.
Stroll has decent driving technique, but he isn't that naturally talented.
Naturally talented driver have the capacity to multitask and have great awareness, sometimes, he seems like he's totally incapable of doing anything else than driving the car on the road alone.
Stroll´s weakness is that he is living his fathers dream. And not his own. He is a decent driver but not a man that lives for F1 or should be in it. He´s also not new to F1 and i do not believe that he just needs more maturity. He had 7 seasons, he´s a veteran not a rookie and should be looked at as one. Alonso is the best driver he has faced and he´s been a complete bloodbath. And i see no changes going into 2024 unless Alonso drops off suddenly.
stroll is not as bad as people think but I think contending for a championship is a step too far. Imo there's no drivers on the grid who have a realistic chance of being at a top team in the next few years who he would be able to beat over the course of season in a top car, so even if he gets dominant machinery I'd back his teammates over him.
I agree with you that hes not as bad, i mean as far as i know hes won multiple championships and races
I wrote this comment before watching sorry
Bianca: Why are you booing me? I'm right.
i Agree no questions about it Lance is a F1 driver due to his skills/achievment and also owning a team with full finacial backing! people that have a problem with this are the people who dont know the sport or just hate him because they cant complain about any thing else?
but 1 thing i do wana say is that Lance needs a better race engineer who is more confident and afirmative on the radio
The W Series touted that they had the best female drivers on earth. Then a few days later, I remember seeing Bianca post that she was “excited for her first time in a race car”… Im guessing she doesnt put much thought into her posts.
In my opinion, it is more likely that Lance Stroll is autistic than he will ever be world champion. Also, there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a shame people use the word “autistic” as a slur.
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if you look deeper into his previous racing in other categories you will see his dad has always paid. Lance has consistently been promoted above other drivers who raced better and scored more points. His dad is always involved either way
Mansell and Hakkinen had become a race winner by their 5th and 6th seasons respectively. On top of that, plenty of podiums prior to their maiden victories.
great video! i appreciate the level-headed nuance you bring to your analysis, which most of the commentary surrounding lance stroll lacks. intentionally or not, i find that most people's personal perception of lance dilutes an otherwise "objective" discussion, and you end up seeing a LOT of subjective theories on how people predict lance will perform or has performed.
i also think lance is fighting in a losing game - regardless of his performance, i think it will be very hard for him to win over the hearts of f1 fans who will only ever see him as nothing more than a nepo baby. there's people in this comment section arguing over whether bianca needed to apologize, but think about how laissez-faire and normalized the public perception of lance has become that a development driver thought it would be remotely acceptable to like several tweets shitting on a formula one driver.
I also think that Stroll will have an amazing season this year. If the Aston Martin stays competitive, I can see him making the top 10 in the standings again. Of course Fernando will beat him, but I think he'll be closer than last year. And also I can see him getting a podium early on in the season. Who knows what this year will bring...
Strolls dad bought out his own team in Formula 3 as well. They also got found out for illegally upgrading the suspension for the car. The family buy themselves victories.
I totally agree and feel like you presented a fair and balanced, objective assessment of lance as an F1 driver.
Was this video sponsored by Aston Martin ? Lance is Canadian like me I would love to see the guy have success in F1 but I think his time has passed ! Time to give the seat to another young drivers that also deserve a chance !
Lol. I wish it was sponsored by Aston Martin 😂
You're making it sound like Stroll jumped from F3 to F1 by having the skill.
That's going to completely overlook the fact his dad was sponsoring Williams.
That helped, however his debut season was very good for a driver without F2 experience. Money got him the seat, but the skills he got them himself.
I mean, if anything, the twitter post is insulting towards people with real autism. You cant compare them to Lance... His condition does not have a name yet
yeap. not bad, but not champion material either. his main problem is the lack of motivation, knowing he basicly own the team. doing this "game" 4 years in a row, got him to not evolve. loot at george russel ambition and motivation while at williams. that got him to merc.
why not have play offs in F1? Maybe 40 teams could compete in the playoffs and the best 10 make it to the F1 group, the playoffs are repeated every quarter. This would give opportunities to many more teams and talented drivers
Not possible, too much money required
So why did their performance drop off so fast? Did they not do any upgrades? Even if they didn’t their car was quite dominant, proof by Alonzo’s podiums.
More teams: YES! 10/20 is just not enough. Like you said, with 20 drivers and a whole world full of amazing open wheel drivers tons of people will never get a shot. In the USA they have Indy Car which has 27 drivers most times. They have some races with more depending on the race, like the Indy 500. I know there’s a big series in Japan and im sure other countries have racing?
They took a development path that didn't get them the results and performance gain they were hoping for. They admitted that perhaps it was the wrong approach. While the upgrades of Mercedes, Ferrari and McLaren worked perfectly and gave them an edge over the Astons on most circuits in the second half of the season.
Another reason is that Aston was in the process of finishing the construction of their new state of the art development factory during 2023, they simply couldn't do a lot of the upgrades that they wanted. That's partly why Alonso consistently said that this is a starting year for more competitive years to come.
Overall, the AMR23 was a good car. It had great speed in medium and slow corners but suffered from drag in high speed. As well as higher than anticipated deg, specifically on the rear tyres. Which they wanted to fix by creating a less draggy diffuser and more downforce generated by a new floor design. Which they sadly failed with and couldn't fix due to struggles with production of better upgrades.
Hearing that he went from F3 to F1 "in a similar fashion to Max Verstappen" made my ears bleed a little. It's technically true, but the circumstances are not comparable at all.
The one thing that has defined stroll’s career is inconsistency. I see no reason why that will ever change.
there is no question that lance stroll is a pay driver
but so was schumacher and checo
hating him just because he comes from money is very unfair, he is not even that bad tbh
I won't deny he was a talented driver but if you still make rookie mistakes in your eigth year you just don't belong in F1.
Stroll did okay in 2023, MUHC better than Checo. People just hate him.
i thought the way people jumped onto harassing a woman of colour online was pretty awful
I'm a Canadian and I'd love to cheer for a Canadian driver, mainly because we don't produce that many. However, his arrogance makes we always cheer for him to come in 20th. I realize all of these guys have to have an edge or they wouldn't be where they are, but he's just a snob. I'll be glad to see the end of his time in F1.
Did Lance deserve a chance in F1? Yes.
Does he deserve to still be here after 8 years? Absolutely not.
Thats the issue with stroll, his inexplicable longevity - any other driver would have been sacked long ago.
Bustelmante liked the tweet where Stroll jr. was portraited as an autistic because the person who posted that tweet took a stand for her. Please cover the whole story.
Stroll jr. is often called an autistic by RPM and we all chucle about it. Don't pretent you are a Saint.
Exactly, Just another clickbate F1 channel
Difference is RPM doesn't represent a multi-billion dollar car manufacturer, not does he have delusions of being a superior driver to Stroll
Yeah well, circumstances, I guess. I mean I laughed at Vitchtits autistic joke, but I always have soft spot for Stroll because of the jokes as well, like whatever he did, people will always quick to judge him(his own arrogance and temperament didn’t help though)
@@officialoisonhow tf is this clickbait and how r u tryna defend her🤣 she’s a terrible driver who’s just with mclaren for pr
@@keeganstcroix6865 Shes a pretty good driver , maybe not championship winning but her F4/FA stuff is pretty impressive , And bro its a joke about stroll that she LIKED - not made... this video goes on so long when its not a huge deal , the title makes it seem so much worse so people click on it . Therefore : clickbait!
You said it yourself. The same thing we say about rookie drivers. “In a few seasons he could challenge for the championship. If he has the right car” yeah, so could Logan Sargent. Lance doesn’t deserve his seat in the past two years he has had a few lucky strategies. Nothing standout where Alonso passed other cars on track. “No fault of his own.
Stroll is a decent midfield quality driver. Thrives in wet conditions, he definitely has skills.
The most frustrating thing about Lance Stroll I find, talent level aside, is that he treats the whole endeavour as such a huge chore. If you're not enjoying yourself please go out and do something else with your life and give someone else an opportunity. Do us all a favour.
He will pursue a career as a professional tennis player if his F1 career doesn't pan out.
(Not a joke) He's a serious tennis player.
He won the F3 championship.....sure
People dragging him to hell for being a nepo baby as if the same ppl judging him wouldn’t take advantage if they had Lawrence as their dad lmao
It seems to me that Bianca would be an expert at spotting it. I'm going to trust her "like," coming from someone who knows more on the subject than me.😂
Great move, first make yourself look stupid, then follow it up by making yourself look weak.
Ohh I actually thought stroll has autism, like me, you can be good looking and autistic yoo
Lance Stroll is a top notch race driver. However , He is in over his head in Formula 1. The major difference between Lance and Fernando ..Talent. As a Canadian I want to root for Lance. I cant. Lance really needs to look at his career and go to a place where his talent can shine. Before someone else does it for him. With the increase in ownership in the team by others (Aramco), Lawrence is losing the ability to protect him.
I thought this video was going to try to professionally diagnose Stroll so we'd finally know what is actually wrong with him.
only thing is "wrong with him " is, his capability peaked winning in F3. Decent driver, with not enough skills to drive an F1 car to it's limits. Driving to 98% of any given car limits will make you an excellent second driver in a team. And that he is .
Whatever you smoked i want some
Sure, but it won't be cheap😂
@@f1alpaca 🤣👌 goodone
How much did stroll pay you for this video
Lol😂 I wish!
Lance Stroll is an anomaly in F1. All the negative stats against him when compared to his team-mates are blah blah blah.
As long as daddy owns the team, Lance will forever have a seat in F1.....and Lance is having fun driving an F1 car with some of the greats on the grid.
You cannot tell daddy how he spends or loses his money...its his money and his team regardless how underperforming his son is.
Oh I guarantee he's not losing any money.
yes he is only cause his money thats it FACT!
Yes F1 is a business but Lance is there because his father paid for him to be there. I'd his father didn't own the team he'd be long gone.
You must’ve been paid to do this video. You’re obviously very knowledgeable about F1, but deliberately left out how he never used his mirrors for 5 years straight and except for Sergei he has always been defeated by his teammates. If you have been watching F1, you know it’s cut throat so no driver without daddy’s money would be allowed to continue with his record. 7 years in F1 and he still making bonehead mistakes like ramming into Ricciardo on a yellow flag! It would be more genuine if you admitted to being funded somehow….
how can you still defend stroll in 2023? he is a terrible driver who does not deserve his seat in f1 and if it werent for his fathers money he wouldve lost his seat after two years in f1. yes he has a few good race performances. yes he had pole in turkey. but thats not an excuse as to why he should stay in f1. especially after 2023, when you compare alonsos 8 podiums to his 1 lucky 4th place finish. he is by far one of the worst f1 drivers in the last few years and saying that he might be competing for a world championship in the future is absolutely wild. any excuse of him still needing time to develop and improve is completely stupid. yes he is under a lot of pressure from the media which could understandably impact his performance. but other than that he really has no excuse to perform so badly, in a car that was at times the second fastest car on the grid. and did everyone suddenly forget his rude behaviour from qatar in 2023? i really dont understand where all these stoll sympathisers now come from
are you drunk?
Baby Stroller is only in F1 because daddy owns the team, he is hopeless and wouldnt be in F1 otherwise
He's definitely a decent driver,
On a good-day he definitely shines, such as the Mexican Grand-Prix - P11 to P6 is nothing to scoff at.
Yet his more repetitive bad-days definitely plague his general black view. Not to mention that his temperament doesn't help his already quite strenuous position.
No shit Sherlock
He got rushed into f1. All f1 drivers are rich 😂😂. Bianca is a shit driver.
It’s a fuckin joke, people are soft
Bustamante should be Yuki's girlfriend. #getyukiagirlfriend
I thought he already had a gf.