Magnus and Hikaru Play CHESS 2.0!
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We really got Chess 2.0 before Gotham became a GM💀
Now he'll become a GM in Chess 2.0
@@timepass4783this is funny. What do you mean pin of shame?
We’ll get gta 6 before gotham becomes a GM.
At this point Levy is gonna Become GM before Gta 6
@@PlumGod just a snowflake, don't mind these ni
"this game was from 150 years ago... Some of you weren't even alive back then" 🤣
Show of hands. Who was alive 150 years ago? Somebody? Anybody??
@@cormacmacassery4702 🙋♂️
@@cormacmacassery4702 Sorry, I died 155 years ago.
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That made me laugh out loud which just makes me feel old
9:14 "this game was from 150 years ago... Some of you weren't even alive back then" so nostalgic 🥲
Yeah just some of us lol
Those would be the Biden voters.
And a lot of them voted for the current president apparently.
this implies at least some of the viewers were alive back then.
@@purple-47 you figured out the joke good job
Holy shit this Casablanca chess is fucking AMAZING. Like, we can now see how modern players would play against each other from positions of past world championship matches and see how the strategies have developed over the years. This is also like skipping directly to before the climax is supposed to be.
Casablanca chess on computers would even be more interesting and awesome, imagine the plays that the computers can do in certain positions in that particular game, it will either be a bloody battle or just a simple draw but we know that is never the case most of the time and computers will always find a way to win in the most insane ways possible
@@user-ci9uh5mt7nThat's how chess engines are ranked when the play against each other, they play a bunch of games against each other in various openings. The openings are predetermined.
@@SharatSBut it's only openings - not random positions like with Casablanca
Gotham, I am kind of new to the world of chess. Even though I have been watching you for years, I never really started playing until my precious wife gave me your book for Christmas. I finally started reading it and studying this beautiful game, and I want to say thanks. I am not young enough to have goals in PC games like Dota that I played before; I know I will suck soon-you can't stop aging. But chess is different. I can see myself in 50 years playing with my grandchildren. That's just magnificent. And when the day comes, I will be telling them about GM Levy, the reason why I started to play. Good luck on your journey!
unless i die in the apocalypse 30 years from now... shieeet
Chess is a truly beautiful game, and Levy is a wonderful ambassador for it.
Can just someone realise how wholesome that was way to go buddy cheers🎉
An absolutely beautiful post. Best wishes to both you and Levy!
this is genuinely a very wholesome comment. Good luck on your chess journey!
Levy never fails to milk Hiknus Nakarlsen.
Ok bozo
@@nenoavoid4387 google translate bugging
Magaru Caramura
@@maximodelvalle4030Mango Nakanaka
Nd u never fail to prove ur a 8 y/o
I love it for several reasons. 1. They are all professional players and still they come up with different ideas in the same position. 2. I just love the concept of putting top players in sharp positions that the computer claims to be even just to show how easy it is to go wrong even if you're one of the best in the world.
We got Levy and Hikaru playing new chess before GTA6
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150 years , some of u weren't even alive then 😂
None of us were alive 😭
@@JdjsjsbdjsoI don’t know about you but I was, turning 210 this year
@@Jdjsjsbdjsoany vampires in chat
@@Jdjsjsbdjso What are you talking about, I remember playing with my grandchildren at that time.
some of us are >150 years old ........ lol
I hope they'll nerf queen in the next update. Queen has been op for too many years
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And buff the king
they gotta rework the pawns aswell
New chess is TransChess, where the king identifies as a queen.
I really enjoyed the Casablanca chess format. Hope to see it more in future with more players
I think this new format is absolutely amazing. When computers play each other now this is what happens. Extending this to the top players is great because it becomes more about who’s the better player not who memorized the most lines. It could be really cool if they let the community vote on different positions to make the game more engaging to an audience
They let the Chat decide which position the players should start with in a poll at one point in another game they had the players vote amongst themselves
The community vote could either end up being really interesting or completely unbalanced, lmao
@@pietrocatalano4285I think they gave chat a limited number of choices that were all fairly even but with imbalances
Well, computers play paired games. Each takes a turn playing white and playing black. They don't start from equal positions most of the time.
9:16 I don't think anyone was levy 🤣
I was
He commentbaited you succesfully
Us... damnit
Exactly
@mickwous2795 you too (oh shit)
24:44 Magnus didn't rush anything, according to the tournament situation a draw was simply enough for him so he decided to go for an easy draw instead of pushing for the win.
He said in the interview that he actually saw that Bf1 line where you sac the a2 pawn and rely on the attack, but he didn't want to go for it since there is always a risk of messing up.
Lot of fun, and also enjoyed the way you presented it with the historical context. 10/10 would watch more of these.
''That was 150 years ago, some of you weren't even alive then!''
...bro wdym
he's trying not to exclude any vampires in the audience
Yes because at that time also Levy was trying to become GM from IM.
he's not wrong tho
10:42 - 10:46 - PLS! Someone just cut that to out of context!! xDD
This is the analysis I was looking for comparing old and new. I felt commentary during match missed this. Thanks
I am sure Hikaru and Magnus both won 1st and 2nd place only to be milked in a video by Levi Rizzman💀💀
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Levy*
Its part of the joke bro😭😭
Brainrot
Hate bot, probably in a bot farm in Russia, which is ironic
did they finally allow bishops and queens to en passant?
That's be so cool. I had the same idea for sometime but for knighta
Levy never fails to milk Magnus and Hikaru both at the same time.
Get a life nigga
This mental image isn’t something I needed in my head
😂😂@@C0mpaczubzer0
Sounds like Levy runs a genetic material gathering centre.
Nowdays comments are getting insane
Morocco mentioned lesgoooooo
Nice and interesting format. I love your enthusiasm reporting and explaining these games.
Such a great idea, would love to see more of this!
this format within low elo chess would be pure chaos
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Low elo chess always a chaos
In an alternate timeline,levy never fails to milk Alexandra botez and Anna cramling
I love that you included the historical game first and then went through the new games. This video was exceptional.
To make this format more full proof, The organisers should use engine games instead of famous historical games
@xfKYZacTri sure it's a good idea.
Just lower the depth and make sure each side has a similar amount of playability
You could even pick 3 positions per game and players bid on positions something to agree on a position.
This has been the most entertaining chess video. This Casablanca format is really nice
Predictions for the next title he is going to put:
- Magnus and Hikaru play chess 2.0
- New format chess: NO PREP!
- Crazy new format played by Magnus and Hikaru
An other one could be : "HIKARUUUU !!!! MAGNUUUUUS !!!"
This tournament show Magnus is the goat in every variant
Another one could be CHESS 20000000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not only this tournament,he always showed that hes the goat@@emanuellucin
This is the internet now. Just chanting the things we've seen a hundred times. It will be this until we come up with a codified abbreviation of these chants. And then we will chant the abbreviation until we fade into dust.
I really love this format, it highlights how different players approach the same position and thats so fun to watch
Bro is surely gonna become GM(M)-Grand Milker of Magnus
ALL MY 476 RATING HOMIES RISE UP!!!!
What about 298
I loved this format honestly
i love the new format, and also love (as always) your analysis of it. As mentioned, the weakness of the new format comes if one person knows the analysis of the historical position while the other does not. Could this be avoided by having the engine randomly generate a mathematically equal position? Also though the hidden beauty of this format is that it will encourage deeper studying of historical matches rather than memorizing opening lines down to the nth level. That's a good thing.
This is like playing from a puzzle till the end.
I love the concept of this format. Can you share how the positions were chosen and how/when they were revealed to the players?
2 from commentators
2 from viewers
2 from players
Fide gives 3 random options, they choose 1
Total 6 games
Players know the game only 2 minutes before match start
Thank you Levy for the vids as always
They could make a tournament out of this by making some sort of team chess format - 2 players and one gets each side of the position to play
World championships used to frequently take place in two cities -- and more. Before WW2 you had as many as 12 cities, but even two of the Karpov Kasparov matches were split, 1986 between Moscow and London and 1990 between NYC and Lyon. It's only since the title split (and later reunification) that all WC matches have been in a single city, although some of the FIDE WC tournaments during the split era were in multiple cities.
bassem crazy for that queen move fr
Levy never fails
Magnus vs Hikary
The Rooooooookk
Title of the video was 'Magnus and Hikary try new chess'
Pin of Shame
Lmao you just put all the buzzwords into one comment
Don't forget the more recent "we got thing before gta 6"
Hikary Dickary Doo
Gothamchess brain rot Speedrun
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I love this format, it’s very similar to an idea I had which is where you start about 15 moves into a random variation of an opening.
TCEC (the top computer chess competition) already does this although it's not always 15 moves and the positions are chosen to be slightly imbalanced, and the computers play both sides of the same opening against each other in a pair of games. the reason the openings are chosen to be slightly imbalanced is to raise the chances that the result of the two games isn't tied, i.e. one of the computers wins one game and draws the other
@@psymar yeah that's where I got the idea from. I forgot to mention that they would play both sides to make it balanced as well.
See, I think the issue with Casablanca chess is yes, it will always be an equal position but that doesn’t mean it’s a humanly equal position. Some moves will just come naturally to one side than the other, so there’s going to be a big RNG element wether u get a easy to play position or hard to play position. But that actually makes it a lot more fun, still less deterministic though.
The games were chosen by garry kasparov and other GMs, im pretty sure they know how to evaluate a position on a human level too.
Damn, they really do still be inventing new chess formats.
GOTHAM sacrifices the stare in the intro
Love the format
Having a chess format that is a puzzle 1v1 is quite interesting and does spice it up the quite a bit.
Levy never fail to be milked by hikagus carmoral
sus hikagus
Levy is on the verge of hitting 5M subs so on eve of this, please bring GTE ❤
I have a game show type idea for you:
You get random positions, and you guess who has a better one and for how much.
That would make us better at chess, + it would be very entertaining
5:51 f3 bishop to e2 would trap the knight and would be a gangster move
9:15 "some of you" 💀
The title is "Manus and Hikaru Try NEW CHESS" now
I like this format, thanks for covering the game Levy
"We don't care about the engine" -Levy. What if it's better than you?? 🤣🤣
Levy just casually forgetting to put Vishy in the title
ifkr smh pissed me off
Chess update(1.46)
One of my favorite chess variants I picked up from a novel by Piers Anthony about a guy who was playing this particular variant with a demon it's called pole chess
you have an extra piece on the side of the board called the pole
Play sing the pole on the board is a move from there the pole can move from any unoccupied square to any other on occupied square it may never occupy an occupied square which means it cannot capture however it cannot be captured
It can get really complicated really quick when an opponent can move their poll between your queen and your Bishop for example knights become far more important as a result
I really like this new format because it’s short and modern. Some food for thought would be to literally highlight the key ideas once for each position to get less experienced players on board with what’s happening in a blink of and eye
0:40 this is where gotham mentions magnus carlsen.
Dang bro 8 minutes and over a hundred comments? Levy's the goat
Gonna be hype to watch you play once this format makes its way online!
Fun fact: The name of the tactic “x-ray attack” could not have even existed during the Chigoran vs Steinitz game because it was in 1889 and x-rays were discovered in November of 1895.
Levy Rizzmans parents (Hikaru and Magnus) must be so proud of him.
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levy casually tag teaming both hikaru and magnus at the same time
“where we dropping?” “Byrne v. Fischer, 1956”
Thanks for the Recaps Levy I’ve already seen the games reviewed by several other you tubers but you are the most entertaining Enjoy your day
Bro took 43 seconds to milk Magnus
Oil up
It's an interesting format to add to the mix. I think I might prefer Fisher Random but it might be cool if Casablanca was a tiebreak or something.
bro this is actually fun af like its so exiting what format we can do with this one...like maybe we can make the players choose thier color like armagedon or like themes for the games like seasons stuff...make the game more enjoyable
Damn now he milkin both hikeroo and mango in one video, he’s improving.
Levy milking Hikaru Carlsen and Magnus Nakamura for his content now 💀
How old are you buddy
I really enjoy the comparisons for the first game, very interesting
They didn't live til 35. The high childhood mortality rate was what brings the average down. People who survived childhood regularly lived into their 60s and beyond
Magnus Milker: The Sequel
OMFG the clockbait is just geting repetive just embarisin
How was that a clickbait even?
Repetitive and embarrassing
@@michaelmassaro4375 but this wasn't even a clickbait, they were in fact confused and they did in fact play a new format of chess
Just unsuscribe and block, man. Milking the "milking" comment is embarrassing af.
Maybe a way to balance it would be to find equal positions that haven't been reached before
This is definitely a fascinating concept, though I think if it wants to be a more accepted "alternate chess format" like chess960, it probably needs positions from something other than historical games just because "happens to have analyzed this position before" is too much of an advantage that someone might just have "at random."
One thing that could be interesting would be to play equal positions from computer-vs-computer games. There's a massive set of interesting, extremely high level games that can't possibly have all been analyzed in depth-and you could just create more if you need to-which you can use to set up the games.
Yes
Congrats, you're first!
Who is here in 2054🎉🎉🎉🎉
CZcams no longer exists
@@guggzyAI will have created something better.
CZcams and other websites were hijacked in the 5th world war
Mr
I liked the contrast between the games, maybe you could toggle a a split screen with two smaller boards each for one game? That would help me see the structures a lot better :) thanks for the analysis and good time :)
This format is definitely gonna be interesting I would love to try it ^.^
If I use fortnite the kids will think im cool
BRO I WATCH UR SFA VIDS NO WAY U COMMENT ON GOTHAM UR GOATED BRO I AM A BIG FAN OOOOOOO ❤
Gotham looks like a Walmart Daniel Radcliffe
Please cover if they do more of this format. Big fan of the history coupled with seeing how modern players handle those positions.
I like how Magnus fianchettoed his bishop on the middle of the board
6:10 Thats about as safe as the king could POSSIBLY be on that square lol
"150yrs ago, some of you weren't even alive".... Dude's hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
We used to practice like this in chess club 10 years ago. Using chessmaster 11 game database. Choose a masters game one. Move 8-11 and each person plays it from both perspectives. Always had great fun and learned alot
This is Empire wars in AoE2. They added this gamemode where you start in the second tech level with a prebuilt base. It's interesting because it highlights a different kind of skill.
I think openings are stale and not too interesting, one of the major reasons i've never really wanted to get too into chess. But starting in the middle of a game seems quite fun.
Damn, from the preview i thought they would play a game backwards, from near-draw position to the starting one :D
"The game of chess has been around for THOUSANDS of years"
I hope you reach GM in the near future
If you could find a way to randomly generate equal positions instead of historical ones then I think there could really be something here
The format is a good show, cool to watch
I have an idea make the king hidden in one of the chess pieces and I'm from egypt 🇪🇬
They have tournaments like this on lichess, it’s fun and makes you learn new position you normally wouldn’t play
Please make videos about historically important games , they seem fun