Thanks for the video! Would love to see some open field tests. Since the majority of players are not the ralliers, we want to know whether he's worth it for us and who his best pairs are for that. Thanks!
very informative! I've always liked wick's videos and logic, but I'd also like to mention that Nevsky primary can be great to a commander with aoe damage, because that aoe active skill damage would increased by a great margin, Nevsky/Mehemed for an example!
Hi Wick, next is please make a vid about best parings for F2P the ones that will give you good trades (From pre SoC pairings to SoC pairings). And muderball marches that are available for F2P.
You said, nevsky has good chance of improving his own skill damage when used secondary to other cav commanders, pls try making video of testing him as secondary to mina, xy, chandra, saladin. Thanks
Hey wick thanks for awesome video . Appreciate your testing reports for nev as secondary. Saw lots of crazy reports for XY-Nev so far 😱. Both open field and rally !
Thanks for doing the testing. I have a quick question. I'm running Saladin/William open field (and have Khan on the bench) do you think its worth investing in Nevsky for open field considering these commanders or am I better off sticking with what I have for now and making improvements else where? Thanks again.
Will do, in a 1M troop count with swarm the battle is very quick and this detail almost doesn't make any difference. You will notice a better result with another commander order if the battle is very long and there are a lot of reinforcements. There, even 5% stats over time can make a good difference. The choice of using Nevsky as primary was made because we could have a FULL top equipment on both sides without having to test 10 different times. You can't swap equipments in Osiris. But having had similar experiences with other commander testings, I can grant that the result is very similar for the reasons stated above. Very good example is when Pakal came out and I was the first and only one testing him as primary to Harald, while everyone was saying Harald would perform better as primary. Maybe this isn't a comparable example, but at the end everyone is using Pakal primary, except maybe in Osiris where sometimes you see Harald primary because you don't care about the trade and you care more about the speed in killing the enemy's troops. I also think that some pairings will be better off with Nevsky primary. I hope this detailed answer clarifies more my position. Cheers mate
Wouldn't Xiang Yu/Nevsky perform better than Nevsky/Xiang Yu? active skill rage cost is 900. Also, would love to see you explore various talent trees (conquering). Thx as always for the great vid wick!
hey, great video and detailed analysis! I'm still struggling whether or not to invest in him. I've got already Saladdin and William as Cav. potential pairs for Nevsky in my roster would be Mehmed II or Aethel (both Museum updated). you think it's worth it for open field?
The hype are so high on Nevsky, I know this is some sort of "introductory" video. I expect the next Nevsky video gonna be rocking hard, Mr. Wick. Hes well wide love and loathed already😆
Wick, can I ask you a question? You know that the number of cavalry commanders has increased and I don't know what combinations to use. I have SALADİN William XY, MAURYA, ATILLA, TAKEDA, NEVSKY and the new cavalry commander to come to the governor.And the full CAO CAO developed with the museum system How do you think I can pair with them for open field. I also have ALEX and YSG.can i put these behind any cavalry commander too? Thanks in advance
Hi Wick sir , thank you really waiting for your video I have Chadragupta Williams maxed and should i max Nevsky first or XY Which will best with Nevsky , XY or Chandra 🙏🙏
Probably Nevsky primary would work better. Reduced skill cycle compensates for the damage factor of Honda cut in half when secondary. I know it works great with XY Honda. But you need double AOE and Nevsky is not AOE
Shouldn’t Xy/Nevski be way better for rally? Since Nevski/Xy would not do as much damage? Xy causes the 30 percent defence reduction, has 850 rage requirement, and after the Xy active skill Nevski will benefit from the extra 35 percent skill damage which is way better on 2300 damage factor vs 1700 on Xy? But yea this combo does not handle swarm (neither does chandra really) we swarmed every Xy Chandra rally with ease
Will test him as secondary as well - my note is that in a 1M troop count with swarm the battle is very quick and this detail almost doesn't make any difference. You will notice a better result with another commander order if the battle is very long and there are a lot of reinforcements. There, even 5% stats over time can make a good difference. The choice of using Nevsky as primary was made because we could have a FULL top equipment on both sides without having to test 10 different times. You can't swap equipments in Osiris. But having had similar experiences with other commander testings, I can grant that the result is very similar for the reasons stated above. Very good example is when Pakal came out and I was the first and only one testing him as primary to Harald, while everyone was saying Harald would perform better as primary. Maybe this isn't a comparable example, but at the end everyone is using Pakal primary, except maybe in Osiris where sometimes you see Harald primary because you don't care about the trade and you care more about the speed in killing the enemy's troops. I also think that some pairings will be better off with Nevsky primary. I hope this detailed answer clarifies more my position. Cheers mate
@@WickGaming it did and thank you very much for clarifying your point. This video was 100% helpful though and I look forward to all your videos as you have a very unique and concise way to break things down
Wick, I greatly appreciate your contribution to the game. Thank you so much for that!!! My Xiang Yu is 5555 and I am an open field player as 99% of people. Should I prioritize William or Nevsky for the secondary position for my Xiang Yu? I dont have enough gold heads to upgrade both of them at the same time.
Hi Wick, if a march is swarmed with 3 Nevsky marches or if a garrison is rallied by 3 Nevsky rallies, will the target gets 135% defense reduction when the skill of these 3 marches/rallies is activated?
Hi Wick, I might be wrong but imo Nevskys first skill applies a def reduction if he get's swarmed (up to 3 Marches swarming him), not if he is part of swarming another march.
one of nevsky skills is 20% health if he is otside aliance territory... what if nevsky with jadviga ( jadviag + nevsky) deffend coalition flag in kvk his ? they will have 20% health or ?
Hey Wick! Love the content! Been seeing reports with Jadwiga + Nevsky working quite well during kvk. Would like to see it be tested without the crystal tech muddling results!
It will follow. We had all the equipments on Nevsky. You can't change while testing. It would have required us weeks. But that is not relevant on 1M swarmed rally, the difference is very, very minimal. It would make a bigger impact on a longer rally. And there are also other upsides of having Nevsky as primary. Overall, I can grant that this type of test is very close to a real scenario
Wick if you can, please do tests with Nevsky as second. Skill cycles are shorter with khan nev, xy nevsky. If you could also set a baseline of rallying with Xy Chandra, that would be great to compare to! Glad to see you are rolling. Cav equipment is superior with hp, but it would still be nice to test the commanders without equipment, and then with equipment to isolate commander strength and compare them
Will test him as secondary as well - my note is that in a 1M troop count with swarm the battle is very quick and this detail almost doesn't make any difference. You will notice a better result with another commander order if the battle is very long and there are a lot of reinforcements. There, even 5% stats over time can make a good difference. The choice of using Nevsky as primary was made because we could have a FULL top equipment on both sides without having to test 10 different times. You can't swap equipments in Osiris. But having had similar experiences with other commander testings, I can grant that the result is very similar for the reasons stated above. Very good example is when Pakal came out and I was the first and only one testing him as primary to Harald, while everyone was saying Harald would perform better as primary. Maybe this isn't a comparable example, but at the end everyone is using Pakal primary, except maybe in Osiris where sometimes you see Harald primary because you don't care about the trade and you care more about the speed in killing the enemy's troops. I also think that some pairings will be better off with Nevsky primary. I hope this detailed answer clarifies more my position. Surely I will test anyway Khan and XY primary - but I figured that there are already some good testings online as I said in the video :) Cheers mate
Wick i thought overaging is not good ? Youre using feral nature + horn. 😢 other than that, in summary nev 4th skill applies to nevs first skill correct?
thanks! maxed him already hehehe. would you use the same tree for open field? (although probably i will use him only as secondary, so I guess doesn't matter.) Looking forward to see your inverted pairing as most of us believe he's a much better secondary comm due to the damage increase of the 2nd comm due to the talents in the skill tree (All for One)
It’s a little odd, but can you test Nevsky with YSG? Alex/YSG was surprisingly strong in the early days and I was just curious if this may be the same. Thanks
Thanks Mr.Wick. so you suggest to use Nevsky primary? Would you mind to compare Nevsky/Xy and Xy/Nevsky in open-field? Or Nevsky/William and Nevsky/Mina? Thanks alot man :)
Chandra primary Nevs as secondary it should be better according to nevs skill damage boosts ….. would you like kindly test it also with Xiang as primary as well
@Wick. Bro. Know you you want to know what people are saying, but please ignore the nay sayers and negative critique completely. Your content is wonderfully detailed and well thought through. I sometimes learn something on other channels, but almost always learn something here. Keep up the good work!
So my conclusion, XY Nevsky crushes pretty much, but Zenobia and Theodora performs still quite decently against them, any other is gonna be crushed except for huge troop difference
Nev+Mina is in this video and Mina has the relic. With CC I haven't tested but I'm sure it will perform worse than Nev+Khan, which also is in this video. About open field, I will surely keep that in mind!
I thought we will see Xy/Nevsky, it doesn't make a lot of sense to have them the other way around, since Xy has a lower rage requirement and the additional skill dmg is not as good for Xy as it is for Nevsky's primary. Btw, I was not saying you are the wrong about the skill - I thought that maybe the developers wrote the wrong description because it didn't make sense with the animation that shows the armor breaking.
Nevsky made primary when you know you're going to surround the target for the defense debuff. Outside of that yes XY would be the best primary. Wick did test both commanders as primaries. There wasn't a big showing of the reports only said that in both scenarios the rally did well 1 v 1. Tune in Sunday for more in-depth testing including Bertrand.
Thanks for the info wick. I really think 2300 damage is better be boosted by 60% than just 25% skill damage. I really think he is best as a secondary commander. I guess XY nevsky(30% defence from XY ), Chandra nevsky (40% all damage from Chandra), will be the best pair, Pls try it
Why Nevsky Chandra ? Isn't Chandra Nevsky better because that 40% buff from Chandra first skill will apply to Nevsky super high damage nuke ? Looks like for rally meta it's gonna be Chandra Nevsky this time. Xy Nevsky for Openfield. Another unrelated but interesting idea is: I always thought Pakal Harald is the best march for open field in getting swarmed situation, then Atila Takeda is in the 2nd spot. But someone pointed out to me that Leo Harald is actually even better for getting swarmed on the field. Thoughts ?
why nevskiy-chandra? why not chandra-nevskiy? in my opinion its more better and interesting variant, becouse buff from chandra 40% dmg and 60% skill dmg to active skill nevskiy is really impressive
another informative video thanks. Several people suggest that Nevsky has to be the secondary to get full value from his 4th skill. May I ask what your opinion is on this and why?
Will test him as secondary as well - my note is that in a 1M troop count with swarm the battle is very quick and this detail almost doesn't make any difference. You will notice a better result with another commander order if the battle is very long and there are a lot of reinforcements. There, even 5% stats over time can make a good difference. The choice of using Nevsky as primary was made because we could have a FULL top equipment on both sides without having to test 10 different times. You can't swap equipments in Osiris. But having had similar experiences with other commander testings, I can grant that the result is very similar for the reasons stated above. Very good example is when Pakal came out and I was the first and only one testing him as primary to Harald, while everyone was saying Harald would perform better as primary. Maybe this isn't a comparable example, but at the end everyone is using Pakal primary, except maybe in Osiris where sometimes you see Harald primary because you don't care about the trade and you care more about the speed in killing the enemy's troops. I also think that some pairings will be better off with Nevsky primary. I hope this detailed answer clarifies more my position. Cheers mate
@@WickGaming as always very helpful. Thanks I’m open field so the battles are not very long. What I am getting from your reply is that in short battles having Nevsky primary or secondary doesn’t matter as regards the application of his 4th skill. I’m sure there is going to be a lot of testing. Looks like he will be a very popular commander. Thanks again
Nice video!!Nevsky is really a damage dealer…. I think Nevsky should be always secondary in order to activate that skill damage and using Xiang Yu or Saladin as primary.From Chisgule I saw that Chandragupta Nevsky breaks Attila Takeda like nothing.With Takeda as secondary and Nevsky primary I don’t saw anything wow(Takeda is still a good comms which makes every cav comms tanky:I’ll use with Saladin). I would like to see Nevsky Cc(with relic obviously) Nevsky Ysg,Attila and Nevsky,William and Nevsky and reverse. I asked about this combo because,in case of inf,when Leo arrive,everyone said Alex Leo works the best,and in final conclusion everyone use Leo with Guan Yu. Nevsky is really damage insane dealer(like a combination between Edward and Cheok for cavalery) I like your post and keep going. Btw when Bert will be maxed I would be so curious if he works in field or in garison!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hey wick since night of iron can active with the other commanders active skill. I think that Bert primary is gonna get is 2nd and 3rs skill attack of his active skill boosted by the 35%. Kinda tested it out with Freddy and I believe that was the case
why don't you put Nevsky 2nd in these pairings? didn't u say that one of his skills is cast only after the active of the 1st commander? isn't this making him more viable as a 2nd in the pair? (i.e. whether it is with Chandra or with XY or with Saladin, etc).
@@WickGaming i mean the commander who has a 10% or 30% chance to apply a debuff on the target using one unit, for example, weaken the 3 millionth march by sending one unit several times
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yo wick u tried jad/nevsky vs nevsky rallys i saw very strong looking results
we need you to talk some sense into the other content creators about the new iconic equipment...
I don't know who said what, but Wick, you are one of the people who really cares about this game and us.Good luck, thank you
Thanks a lot buddy
Finally, remember guys watch wicks video before maxing a commander
Thanks for the trust you have in me :)
Shit no one told me stop at 5541?
@@michaeljohn1508 wait should I stop at 5541 ???
@@volkov9381 I have no idea!!!!! Wick help me!
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I've got the same feeling when attila came out back then... He is too op i envy the ppl who have rrs to max him🥺
I was able to 5554 him which is a major blueballs moment
Thanks for the video! Would love to see some open field tests. Since the majority of players are not the ralliers, we want to know whether he's worth it for us and who his best pairs are for that. Thanks!
Thank you for putting your time into testing new commanders! Really appreciate that.
But Xiang first debuff target by 30% defence and then when nevsky hits he hits harder with knight of iron proc too.
very informative! I've always liked wick's videos and logic, but I'd also like to mention that Nevsky primary can be great to a commander with aoe damage, because that aoe active skill damage would increased by a great margin, Nevsky/Mehemed for an example!
Hi Wick, next is please make a vid about best parings for F2P the ones that will give you good trades (From pre SoC pairings to SoC pairings). And muderball marches that are available for F2P.
I agree. It should be done. For all troop type
Alex/ysg
A\T
You said, nevsky has good chance of improving his own skill damage when used secondary to other cav commanders, pls try making video of testing him as secondary to mina, xy, chandra, saladin. Thanks
Definitely interested to see Bertrand/Nevsky rally. Especially because of Bertrand with defense tree.
We will for sure test Bertrand very soon
Or for open field as infantry style tank couple
It has to be Xiang Nevsky or else your missing out on a lot
Hey wick thanks for awesome video . Appreciate your testing reports for nev as secondary. Saw lots of crazy reports for XY-Nev so far 😱. Both open field and rally !
Will do that!
He using talent gear and non talent gear as a "Test" 😂
Thanks for doing the testing.
I have a quick question. I'm running Saladin/William open field (and have Khan on the bench) do you think its worth investing in Nevsky for open field considering these commanders or am I better off sticking with what I have for now and making improvements else where?
Thanks again.
I’m wondering too!
i've tested khan nevsky in open field and this is worth it
Thanks for the deep testing. In my opinion you should focus your time on testing Nevsky secondary tho
Will do, in a 1M troop count with swarm the battle is very quick and this detail almost doesn't make any difference. You will notice a better result with another commander order if the battle is very long and there are a lot of reinforcements. There, even 5% stats over time can make a good difference.
The choice of using Nevsky as primary was made because we could have a FULL top equipment on both sides without having to test 10 different times. You can't swap equipments in Osiris. But having had similar experiences with other commander testings, I can grant that the result is very similar for the reasons stated above.
Very good example is when Pakal came out and I was the first and only one testing him as primary to Harald, while everyone was saying Harald would perform better as primary. Maybe this isn't a comparable example, but at the end everyone is using Pakal primary, except maybe in Osiris where sometimes you see Harald primary because you don't care about the trade and you care more about the speed in killing the enemy's troops.
I also think that some pairings will be better off with Nevsky primary. I hope this detailed answer clarifies more my position. Cheers mate
Hi Wick, how do you think the best 5 calvs for open field? or best 4 or 3 marches?
Wick, is Saladin good with Nevsky, if you plan to get Nevsky but do not have any other cav commander?
Wouldn't Xiang Yu/Nevsky perform better than Nevsky/Xiang Yu? active skill rage cost is 900. Also, would love to see you explore various talent trees (conquering). Thx as always for the great vid wick!
Yes as I said XY Nevsky is great, too.
Nice. This Nevsky dude is crazy I’m just gonna look at him from a distance 😂. Good vid bro. Glad to see Chandra has been revived thanks to Nevsky.
XY is it better to leave it 5515 or get expertise? I use it only for open field
Happy that chandra will still stay as part of meta
perhaps i missed it....but what talent tree are you using on nevsky?
There are a huge difference outcome between your reports and Fleish reports. Is it because of equipments?
hey, great video and detailed analysis! I'm still struggling whether or not to invest in him. I've got already Saladdin and William as Cav. potential pairs for Nevsky in my roster would be Mehmed II or Aethel (both Museum updated). you think it's worth it for open field?
The hype are so high on Nevsky, I know this is some sort of "introductory" video.
I expect the next Nevsky video gonna be rocking hard, Mr. Wick. Hes well wide love and loathed already😆
I would like to see some openfield testings :) like Saladin Nevsky
Its ok But saladin is Not that good for him
how come u didn't do nevsky as the secondary first? I always thought that's where u are supposed to put nevsky?
as a russian it is funny how you were saying neevskiy
XD
thanks for your videos, wick. Most ov us appreciate yoyr approach
My pleasure!
Wick, can I ask you a question? You know that the number of cavalry commanders has increased and I don't know what combinations to use. I have SALADİN William XY, MAURYA, ATILLA, TAKEDA, NEVSKY and the new cavalry commander to come to the governor.And the full CAO CAO developed with the museum system How do you think I can pair with them for open field. I also have ALEX and YSG.can i put these behind any cavalry commander too? Thanks in advance
Hey Wick . I know is crazy but Can you try Zeno / Martel?
Hi Wick sir , thank you really waiting for your video
I have Chadragupta Williams maxed and should i max Nevsky first or XY
Which will best with Nevsky , XY or Chandra 🙏🙏
how about a Honda (primary) / Nevsky (secondary) combo? Honda seems to deal a ton of damage as a primary commander
Probably Nevsky primary would work better. Reduced skill cycle compensates for the damage factor of Honda cut in half when secondary. I know it works great with XY Honda. But you need double AOE and Nevsky is not AOE
Shouldn’t Xy/Nevski be way better for rally? Since Nevski/Xy would not do as much damage? Xy causes the 30 percent defence reduction, has 850 rage requirement, and after the Xy active skill Nevski will benefit from the extra 35 percent skill damage which is way better on 2300 damage factor vs 1700 on Xy? But yea this combo does not handle swarm (neither does chandra really) we swarmed every Xy Chandra rally with ease
I would think by the descriptions of skills that Nevsky needs to be a secondary commander
Will test him as secondary as well - my note is that in a 1M troop count with swarm the battle is very quick and this detail almost doesn't make any difference. You will notice a better result with another commander order if the battle is very long and there are a lot of reinforcements. There, even 5% stats over time can make a good difference.
The choice of using Nevsky as primary was made because we could have a FULL top equipment on both sides without having to test 10 different times. You can't swap equipments in Osiris. But having had similar experiences with other commander testings, I can grant that the result is very similar for the reasons stated above.
Very good example is when Pakal came out and I was the first and only one testing him as primary to Harald, while everyone was saying Harald would perform better as primary. Maybe this isn't a comparable example, but at the end everyone is using Pakal primary, except maybe in Osiris where sometimes you see Harald primary because you don't care about the trade and you care more about the speed in killing the enemy's troops.
I also think that some pairings will be better off with Nevsky primary. I hope this detailed answer clarifies more my position. Cheers mate
@@WickGaming it did and thank you very much for clarifying your point. This video was 100% helpful though and I look forward to all your videos as you have a very unique and concise way to break things down
Wick, I greatly appreciate your contribution to the game. Thank you so much for that!!!
My Xiang Yu is 5555 and I am an open field player as 99% of people. Should I prioritize William or Nevsky for the secondary position for my Xiang Yu? I dont have enough gold heads to upgrade both of them at the same time.
I might have missed something in the video. But I dont understand why using nevsky primary with xy not xy nevsky .
We had equipment on Nevsky. But as I said a couple times, one or the other works extremely well.
Hi Wick, if a march is swarmed with 3 Nevsky marches or if a garrison is rallied by 3 Nevsky rallies, will the target gets 135% defense reduction when the skill of these 3 marches/rallies is activated?
Hi Wick, I might be wrong but imo Nevskys first skill applies a def reduction if he get's swarmed (up to 3 Marches swarming him), not if he is part of swarming another march.
Nope, you’re wrong
Try Nevsky Ysg pls. And i have Xy, william, saladin, nevsky max how should i use them? Saladin nevsky and XY william?
you said that nevsky crushes jadwiga. in this scenario was the pair jadwiga yss? if so could you test out against jadwiga+nevsky as garrison?
Yes, Jad+YSS. I will surely test Jad+Nevsky, many are asking. Thanks for the suggestion!
one of nevsky skills is 20% health if he is otside aliance territory... what if nevsky with jadviga ( jadviag + nevsky) deffend coalition flag in kvk his ? they will have 20% health or ?
Most likely they won’t have 20% health as flags count as territory
Nevsky+khan vs zeno+wu. Wu gives skill reduction. should be tested? Great video by the way
Hey Wick! Love the content! Been seeing reports with Jadwiga + Nevsky working quite well during kvk. Would like to see it be tested without the crystal tech muddling results!
Thanks wick another great video👊😎
Hi wick, why the test always nevsky primary? We want to see nevsky as secondary especially xy/nev and chandra/nev
It will follow. We had all the equipments on Nevsky. You can't change while testing. It would have required us weeks. But that is not relevant on 1M swarmed rally, the difference is very, very minimal. It would make a bigger impact on a longer rally. And there are also other upsides of having Nevsky as primary. Overall, I can grant that this type of test is very close to a real scenario
Would he be any good in open field pair with Mulan? Buff and debuff combo?
Wick if you can, please do tests with Nevsky as second. Skill cycles are shorter with khan nev, xy nevsky. If you could also set a baseline of rallying with Xy Chandra, that would be great to compare to! Glad to see you are rolling. Cav equipment is superior with hp, but it would still be nice to test the commanders without equipment, and then with equipment to isolate commander strength and compare them
Will test him as secondary as well - my note is that in a 1M troop count with swarm the battle is very quick and this detail almost doesn't make any difference. You will notice a better result with another commander order if the battle is very long and there are a lot of reinforcements. There, even 5% stats over time can make a good difference.
The choice of using Nevsky as primary was made because we could have a FULL top equipment on both sides without having to test 10 different times. You can't swap equipments in Osiris. But having had similar experiences with other commander testings, I can grant that the result is very similar for the reasons stated above.
Very good example is when Pakal came out and I was the first and only one testing him as primary to Harald, while everyone was saying Harald would perform better as primary. Maybe this isn't a comparable example, but at the end everyone is using Pakal primary, except maybe in Osiris where sometimes you see Harald primary because you don't care about the trade and you care more about the speed in killing the enemy's troops.
I also think that some pairings will be better off with Nevsky primary. I hope this detailed answer clarifies more my position.
Surely I will test anyway Khan and XY primary - but I figured that there are already some good testings online as I said in the video :) Cheers mate
Wick i thought overaging is not good ? Youre using feral nature + horn. 😢 other than that, in summary nev 4th skill applies to nevs first skill correct?
Finally some testing on Nev being swarmed. Thank you.
More tomorrow! And tomorrow's video will be very exciting I hope :)
thanks! maxed him already hehehe. would you use the same tree for open field? (although probably i will use him only as secondary, so I guess doesn't matter.) Looking forward to see your inverted pairing as most of us believe he's a much better secondary comm due to the damage increase of the 2nd comm due to the talents in the skill tree (All for One)
How about Chandra/nesky ?? Plz. I need watch report
Appreciate your videos. Keep it up.
It’s a little odd, but can you test Nevsky with YSG? Alex/YSG was surprisingly strong in the early days and I was just curious if this may be the same. Thanks
Мы же просто пошутили три года назад, про то, что Невского введут в РоЦ... И вот он...
Is his first skill debuff in effect if the other person attacking the target is in another alliance?
Thanks Mr.Wick. so you suggest to use Nevsky primary? Would you mind to compare Nevsky/Xy and Xy/Nevsky in open-field? Or Nevsky/William and Nevsky/Mina?
Thanks alot man :)
Amazing testing with the rallies and the swarms! Eager to see how he performs in OF!
How have you become my fave rok content creator.. you are so genuine and love your content buddy. Keep it up
Wow, thank you! I appreciate that!
Thanks for your hard work , appreciate
Chandra primary Nevs as secondary it should be better according to nevs skill damage boosts ….. would you like kindly test it also with Xiang as primary as well
appreciate all the time you spending just to make everything so clear to us
great work wick..thanks :)
@Wick. Bro. Know you you want to know what people are saying, but please ignore the nay sayers and negative critique completely. Your content is wonderfully detailed and well thought through. I sometimes learn something on other channels, but almost always learn something here. Keep up the good work!
So my conclusion, XY Nevsky crushes pretty much, but Zenobia and Theodora performs still quite decently against them, any other is gonna be crushed except for huge troop difference
Also, Nevsky gives a decent reason to max chandra
Thx for the video, wick, my question is what was your thoughts on Nev/Mina for open field.
I haven't tested that but I suppose it's a bomb for single target and "cheeseburgering"
La penalización de defensa del 30% o 45% es sobre sí mismo o sobre el enemigo?
Hi Wick! Thank you for this video! Can you test Nevskiy with CC or Minamoto with relics? Especially in the open field
Nev+Mina is in this video and Mina has the relic. With CC I haven't tested but I'm sure it will perform worse than Nev+Khan, which also is in this video. About open field, I will surely keep that in mind!
Hello Wick, XY/Nevsky vs XY/William which one is the best for openfield?
XY William
I thought we will see Xy/Nevsky, it doesn't make a lot of sense to have them the other way around, since Xy has a lower rage requirement and the additional skill dmg is not as good for Xy as it is for Nevsky's primary.
Btw, I was not saying you are the wrong about the skill - I thought that maybe the developers wrote the wrong description because it didn't make sense with the animation that shows the armor breaking.
Nevsky made primary when you know you're going to surround the target for the defense debuff.
Outside of that yes XY would be the best primary. Wick did test both commanders as primaries. There wasn't a big showing of the reports only said that in both scenarios the rally did well 1 v 1.
Tune in Sunday for more in-depth testing including Bertrand.
I have seen good reports of Jadwiga/ Nevsky in garrison, what do you think?
We still have to test that :)
I am curious now about Nevsky Cao Cao, will it do worse than Wil or Takeda?
queria muito que o wick voltasse a gravar videos de ROK...
Can you please try YSS or theo or Zeno or YSG (all garrison build) + Nevsky in garrison vs XY or chandra + Nevsky
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Thank you so much, brilliant as always 👏
Thank you very much!
Would a double rally count as a surrounding attacker? Would the defense reduction take affect then?
Yes
One question.
When new Legendary infanteri coming !!!!!😭😭😭
No idea mate
Is nevsky 5515 enough or it should be expertise?
Thanks for the info wick. I really think 2300 damage is better be boosted by 60% than just 25% skill damage. I really think he is best as a secondary commander. I guess XY nevsky(30% defence from XY ), Chandra nevsky (40% all damage from Chandra), will be the best pair, Pls try it
Wick , Active skill William says “attacked extra skill dmg cant take effect” , is this for our troops or enemy troops?
William is the best counter. I'm gonna speak about that
Why Nevsky Chandra ? Isn't Chandra Nevsky better because that 40% buff from Chandra first skill will apply to Nevsky super high damage nuke ?
Looks like for rally meta it's gonna be Chandra Nevsky this time. Xy Nevsky for Openfield.
Another unrelated but interesting idea is: I always thought Pakal Harald is the best march for open field in getting swarmed situation, then Atila Takeda is in the 2nd spot. But someone pointed out to me that Leo Harald is actually even better for getting swarmed on the field. Thoughts ?
Chandra back to business meta
Thank you soo much for the video plz do a open field video too 😍
why nevskiy-chandra? why not chandra-nevskiy? in my opinion its more better and interesting variant, becouse buff from chandra 40% dmg and 60% skill dmg to active skill nevskiy is really impressive
oh yes! thanks for your first video with your opinion about 4 skill nevskyi. you only one who read it correctly
How about nevsky and helrd the 3rd ? Rally and field It would be not good but I am curious
Why don't u use the same talent tree than Gk in your vid ?
Hey buddy - a lot of comments so someone probably already asked this (but I haven't read them all): did you test Jadwiga + Nevsky in garrison?
Not yet, but we will!
another informative video thanks. Several people suggest that Nevsky has to be the secondary to get full value from his 4th skill. May I ask what your opinion is on this and why?
Will test him as secondary as well - my note is that in a 1M troop count with swarm the battle is very quick and this detail almost doesn't make any difference. You will notice a better result with another commander order if the battle is very long and there are a lot of reinforcements. There, even 5% stats over time can make a good difference.
The choice of using Nevsky as primary was made because we could have a FULL top equipment on both sides without having to test 10 different times. You can't swap equipments in Osiris. But having had similar experiences with other commander testings, I can grant that the result is very similar for the reasons stated above.
Very good example is when Pakal came out and I was the first and only one testing him as primary to Harald, while everyone was saying Harald would perform better as primary. Maybe this isn't a comparable example, but at the end everyone is using Pakal primary, except maybe in Osiris where sometimes you see Harald primary because you don't care about the trade and you care more about the speed in killing the enemy's troops.
I also think that some pairings will be better off with Nevsky primary. I hope this detailed answer clarifies more my position. Cheers mate
@@WickGaming as always very helpful. Thanks I’m open field so the battles are not very long. What I am getting from your reply is that in short battles having Nevsky primary or secondary doesn’t matter as regards the application of his 4th skill. I’m sure there is going to be a lot of testing. Looks like he will be a very popular commander. Thanks again
Nice video!!Nevsky is really a damage dealer….
I think Nevsky should be always secondary in order to activate that skill damage and using Xiang Yu or Saladin as primary.From Chisgule I saw that Chandragupta Nevsky breaks Attila Takeda like nothing.With Takeda as secondary and Nevsky primary I don’t saw anything wow(Takeda is still a good comms which makes every cav comms tanky:I’ll use with Saladin).
I would like to see Nevsky Cc(with relic obviously) Nevsky Ysg,Attila and Nevsky,William and Nevsky and reverse.
I asked about this combo because,in case of inf,when Leo arrive,everyone said Alex Leo works the best,and in final conclusion everyone use Leo with Guan Yu.
Nevsky is really damage insane dealer(like a combination between Edward and Cheok for cavalery)
I like your post and keep going.
Btw when Bert will be maxed I would be so curious if he works in field or in garison!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
When I said Leo with Guan Yu I meant:Guan primary and Leo secondary😅
Is nevsky khan a good pairing in open field?
I would like to see a Zeno/Wu garrison
Why not use XY/GK as primary??
Looks like Nevsky is really worth it
I think so
does a double rally count as a sorround?
As always, never disappointing... 💪💪
Wondering about Jad/Nev as garrison... I saw a report winning but might be unbalanced stats
Hey wick since night of iron can active with the other commanders active skill. I think that Bert primary is gonna get is 2nd and 3rs skill attack of his active skill boosted by the 35%. Kinda tested it out with Freddy and I believe that was the case
Would love to see you do a jadwig nevsky garrison. Bc in our KvK yesterday we saw a saladin nevsky garrison demolish a Pakal harald rally.
Hello Wick!Would you recommend a different talent tree for Xiang Yu?I mean would you suggest to focus on getting Feral nature?
You can check my talents for rallying/open field on my discord :) or there is a vid on the channel
why don't you put Nevsky 2nd in these pairings? didn't u say that one of his skills is cast only after the active of the 1st commander? isn't this making him more viable as a 2nd in the pair? (i.e. whether it is with Chandra or with XY or with Saladin, etc).
He said that he’ll do some more testing at the end of the video
How about Nevskiy and Honda???
what do you think about the reason for applying a debuff by one unit with a commander who has a chance to apply a debuff with a normal attack?
Sorry, you mean using the 1-troop exploit? It could work, but it needs to line up to Nevsky firing off his active skill. Otherwise it won't work
@@WickGaming i mean the commander who has a 10% or 30% chance to apply a debuff on the target using one unit, for example, weaken the 3 millionth march by sending one unit several times
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