Flying a light aircraft in turbulent conditions
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- čas přidán 19. 03. 2020
- You'll need to fasten your seatbelts for this flight from Blackbushe to Turweston. This was my first solo flight in a Piper Arrow 3, and the winds were very gusty.
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Well done Jon, in challenging conditions you flew safely and despite being shaken up - I’m sure you felt a huge sense of achievement. And I know all too well how easy it is to forget the call sign! Congrats. Great content.
Thank you Ben!
Bless you Jon that was a tough one for you thanks for your honest reporting
Thank you!
F**k me. That approach looked mental. Well done for getting it down on the first go.
Really like your honesty in your videos and your self evaluation, especially when it comes to things like the red, blue, green check.
As pilots we're always learning and it sounds like you got a good lesson that day. Don't be too hard on yourself, you were safe and always in control...and those conditions are some of the worst you'll find in VFR with general aviation. This should give you confidence. Kudos for publishing.
Well done Jon given you had testing conditions and a different aircraft. I was due to fly this weekend but given the wind warnings and your experience in this video, thought I would rearrange and hope for a calmer day. Good, honest content as always and thank you for sharing.
well done Jon , thank you for your honesty. happy landings
Thank you.
Ace flight Jon and loved the cartoon overlays. Looks like a Garmin G5 for your AI. No more worries about misbehaving squirrels in the comparable steam gauge equivalent.
That looked like a really difficult trip Jon. The cameras caught that one really big jolt well. I wouldn't say that you film to highlight what went wrong because usually it doesn't but I do know what you mean. We have always said our videos are primarily for self review but you are always very honest in your comments to camera and your voice overs and this is what a lot of people appreciate about your channel. Well done, take care and stay safe in these difficult times.
Thanks Tim. I hope you and your family are keeping safe, and above all, not letting it get you down!
Well done Jon! Made me laugh as I know exactly how you were feeling. I'm still getting used to our Rockwell Commander I have a share in, and it helps knowing I'm not the only one who gets out of the cockpit with my knees shaking and needing a drink! You had all the essentials covered and the rest will follow the more you fly her (or so I keep telling myself). Well done for going up in those conditions. Made for an entertaining video, and there's nothing like experience under your belt 👌
Thanks Kevin. It helps to occasionally, test your limits I think, within reason. I had flown with an instructor the previous week in similar conditions, so knew it was within my limits.
great to see another Vlog from you, well done on a hard approach and short final. you'll get there mate don't worry about it - we all have had those flight & we always learn something from them eventhough they are unpleasnt at the time.
Thanks mate.
Love watch your videos Jon, your honesty is what it is all about. It helps others. Please to hear you are nearly recovered from Illness, pleased your husband and Bertie are now recovered. Stay Safe 👍✈️
Thanks Stewart.
Great video - bumps can be a little scary! I flew over a ridge line of the Malvern’s on my QXC and my head hit the cabin roof the turbulence was so strong! Quite an experience and was happy to land that day! Thanks for sharing Jon.
Good job ! I remember one of my cross country flights in training coming out of my seat on final approach going into Saranac Lake NY airport. I used 10 degrees of flaps to lessen the turbulence.
I love your honesty Jon, there are many people who would cover that with an edit!
Thanks Dave.
Well flown.....what more can one say.......
Thanks Richard.
Well done Jon. That's me in GOPET at the end of the film :-) it was a breezy day!
I can remember having a similar gusty final experience when I first transitioned to Arrow which like you was from Warriors. The extra weight makes them quite different handling aircraft under certain conditions. Weight you learn to love.
&$£* that was %£$&*£$ bumpy !! - Good one Jon - as always
What a wonderful bit of flying - especially on final to Turweston. That turbulence looked like it would have been too much for me - a remarkably good bit of airmanship in my humble opinion. A
Such a good video.Blackbushe is my home airport I usually go to the bushe cafe for breakfast most Saturdays
Well done, yet another great video!
Thanks Michal.
Well done Jon, you could see just how difficult the conditions were on take off. I wonder if after the first bout of turbulence you were regretting taking her up, especially with your friend on board. I love they way you push yourself and how honest you are about your shortcomings. Ultimately its this honesty that will keep you alive and not take unnecessary risks.
I love the arrow it's such a sexy aircraft and such fun to fly
God Bless you Jon, you are an inspiration
Thanks Jonathan. It was handling as expected, until the big bump, and then the turbulent approach at Turweston.
Amazing landing!!!
That looked like a handful on final approach! Wow! Well done on the landing.
Thanks Jaco.
Nice landing, I flew in turbulence for the first time and it kinda put me on edge but the touch n go's and landing was good, nice vid and remember any landing you can walk away from is a good landing
Well handled as always Jon. Excellent stuff. 👌🏻
Thanks Rory.
Great video as always! I've had some of my most turbulent approaches at Turweston so I completely get your feeling when you finally made it to parking.
Yes, all my landings there have been a bit wild.
@@TheFlyingReporter I once did circuits on the often disused grass runway 16, that was quite the challenge as the markings are not all that great.. still nice place to visit, the cafe has great views!
Wow that did look exciting - well handled Jon.
It was 'fun'
Great job!
Great job with keeping the plane under control!
Thanks Mike.
Wow that was gusty! Good job getting to down. Never seen you shaken like that. Can’t wait to visit Turweston this summer (hopefully!)
It's a lovely aerodrome.
Nice video! Yes, it's hard to use a different call sign than the aircraft you used to fly? Luckily for me the call signs of my new plane (PH-3G2) differs a lot from my previous one (D-MOTT)... 😉
Well done! :)
Reminds me when I was flying in Newcastle-upon-Tyne...more than 15 years ago...
Excellent video, it seems every flight I take out of Denham learning to fly the 152 is bloody bumpy !!!! Not as bad as that air pocket you found lol great video and awesome learning experience. Thank you for sharing from this 54 year old LAPL wannabe.
Thanks for watching.
“...something stronger.” Cut. Shows fuel truck :D
Very good ;)
Haha, I hadn't picked up on that juxtaposition.
Well done!
Thanks.
✅ Ditto. 👍
It’s funny, we all know you landed safely because this is an edited video, but still gripping! Well done and keep ‘em coming! 👍🏻
Thanks Steve.
I hate flying in turbulence, good effort!
Challenging conditions, expertly handled. :-)
I generally start thinking how badly do I need to fly at 15 knots, and am no go at 20.
Haha, good timing considering the wind today.
I can understand your difficulty in remembering your call sign. I'm a Ham radio operator and I have had to have three different callsigns, first for my foundation licence MW6IVW then for my intermediate licence 2W0EXZ and finally for my Full Licence MW0MDV. Each time it took a good fortnight to get them right and even now I sometimes make a mistake and use ether my foundation or intermediate call sign. Love your Vlogs, they are great. would love to have been a pilot. just have to satisfy myself by flying models and flight simming.
We hardly ever use qfe here in New Zealand - everything about flying in the UK seems more complicated. You should come and fly down here for a break ;)
Nice Job Jon, I always do my landing checklist downwind, so I have plenty of time to concentrate 100% on the approach. Once you get used to doing that it's automatic after a while.
I do my BUMFI check downwind, after gear down. Do you put your prop full RPM on downwind?
@@TheFlyingReporter yes bump on downwind. Leaves me clear to stabilise the approach.
@@jerseyscampi Likewise, my prop goes full on downwind. Tends to also need a touch throttle increase as well.
Another great video Jon. Thanks. Very brave to make your first solo takeoff in a cross wind gusting quite a bit above the demonstrated max . How was the landing back at Blackbushe?
It was much better than expected.
Call signs are often a problem after a period of using one then switching. You set yourself a challenge by flying a more complex aircraft in hard conditions but you are better pilot after the experiance.
Wow! Looks crazy difficult. Personally I find bumps once you're at a safe altitude fun, but I probably wouldn't if I was in a relatively new aircraft
You're right Devin. The new aircraft made this more unsettling!
That looked like a real handful on approach.
Oh yes.
@@TheFlyingReporter Your expression after landing told it all. I was wondering, if you had been flying the old fixed gear PA28, would you have felt the same pressure?
As you pulled off the runway at Turweston, did you notice the nosewheel light flickering?
I feel you Jon, I did my check ride in a Cherokee this morning, 10 touch & gos in 20G28 winds. New aircraft, new airfield, new circuit pattern and strong winds - I was absolutely at the limit of my mental capacity. Wishing you calmer skies for the future.
Thanks Ian.
😂 Jon trust me your cameras were working just fine. I would have been begging for you to touch down from the right seat💩😂
Flights like that build your mettle. And the uncontrollable trembling does eventually subside. :-) Be careful the 'I've got to get this ******* thing down' mentality overriding a prudent go-around, as that's really the only danger in these circumstances. Fly in these conditions frequently enough & you start to enjoy them. Infrequent-passengers, often less so. :-D
Not a huge fan of Piper...BUT...the Arrow is a dream to land in gusty/windy conditions. Spot landings are also very easy to manage.
It certainly is.
Jon, you coped quite well I suppose but can I make a suggestion, I used to sort of specialize in flying in those gusty windy conditions in fact just pure foul weather was, in the end, the only conditions I would fly in and I am going to suggest you fly more and more and more in those conditions because my god you will gain so much confidence, I know of an instructor who will help you to cope with those conditions and show you how to deal with them if you need to do so.
Thanks David.
Interesting to say the least, but once the knees stopped I guess you would have realised just what you achieved in this flight and the old addage "a good pilot is always learning" is well applied for this flight. You are back on an upward learning curve more flight and it will flatten out. Stay safe
Thanks Mikey.
Jon, I wonder if you need a trigger for short finals a bit like the airline’s use the 1000ft ‘Stable Approach’ call. Like on a precision approach you have a decision height/altitude, you could use a fixed altimeter indication say 200ft, 300ft or 400ft to call out your RBG. Alternatively wings leave on the centreline I.e. finals turn completed as the trigger. You probably learned more on this trip than half a dozen milk runs.
Yes, I need to sort this out.
Whatever works for you.
Great landing in those conditions. If anyone watches enough of your videos, they’ll see that was a difficult one! What is the crosswind limit for the arrow? I know it’s 17 for the warrior that I fly.
Demonstrated crosswind limit is 17 knots.
The Flying Reporter I think you just demonstrated 20 knots :). Happy days.
So you got to Turweston before they closed the cafe. And before Blackbushe got its new procedures for Farnborough Class D?
Actually, the Farnborough airspace was already in effect on this date.
Really nice job. Those short stubby wings don’t handle the bumps well.
Usually not this bad.
How do you get the atc into your videos??
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It falls to me to be they guy who says he didn't like the music.
shaking like a french man lol
"camera doesn't reflect.."???
It gave me vertigo...and im not prone to it..!
Congratulations..!
At these aiports, it seems like you are talking to someone on the ground, but they don't seem like a tower. Who are you talking to?
An Air-Ground Communication Service.
A big beef of mine, as a radio operator, is pilots calling runway vacated when they have not crossed the big yellow lines that designate the runway. I think you may have done this. Turning off the straight line is not vacating the runway. But I accept you may have been a little shaken up by the experience. Love your videos and your continual effort to improve and not to be afraid of showing what goes wrong. We all fly safely on the backs of those who flew before us.
@@TheFlyingReporter Ah okay. So they provide information, but dont control the airport then?
Well done. Have a couple of beers on me :)
Excellent video, challenging landing in those conditions. I just did a vid on turbulence as well, I can relate to how you felt; check it!
Sir,..please take that chewing gum out of your mouth,...
Sam saw this vid before publication, and was kicking himself!
Disgusting habit, and downright rude to do it on camera.
Fun watching video....not fun watching someone chew gum like a 14 year old girl!