Nintendo Is Not As Family Friendly As You Think
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2022
- Nintendo. Beloved video game company. Safe. Warm. Nurturing.
For anyone who has played video games, this Japanese company has a very special place in our hearts. Gamers of all ages get nostalgic thinking about that first time playing Mario, Donkey Kong, or Zelda. But what if I told you that this company has a much, much darker history.
That’s right, much like Disney and movies, once you push past Nintendo’s family-friendly image, the company’s practices start to paint a different picture. From their treatment of their own employees, to destroying the communities who play their games, it becomes quickly apparent that Nintendo, the billion dollar corporation that defined your childhood, isn’t the fatherly figure they make themselves out to be. Today, we’ll be exploring some of the unethical things that Nintendo has done over the years, and present a different angle of this beloved developer.
This is the dark side of Nintendo
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Terrible online, underpowered hardware, terrible treatment of fan projects, consumer hostile. But dayum do they have Mario.
Pff, they have more than just Mario lol.
I mean, the hardware thing is a lot more complex than it just being “underpowered” with how the system is set up, and the online sucks because they refuse to make actual servers and try to run everything P2P.
But man are they consumer hostile. I don’t think any game company is that bad with some of the decisions they’ve made.
I'm glad they havent released a good pokemon game in 10 years so I havent felt the urge to support them financially
@@poolturtle5772 consumer hostile? Well that's new lol. I thought we often use the term "anti consumer". And you sure? Pretty sure there's many vg companies do poor decisions, especially jp vg companies.. "cough" Sega...
@@Lilybun Nintendo doesn't make Pokémon game though, but man I xc3 is such an awesome game nonetheless. Glad Nintendo now cares about jrpgs u Ike a decade where Nintendo really doesn't give a damn on jrpgs except Pokémon.
Did you know that, despite Nintendo's hostility towards modding, homebrew, and rom hacking, you can mod your 3DS?
It's surprisingly easy to do.
Its also the only way to obtain some of their classic ds games if you dont want to pay 200 dollars for a shoddy second hand cart on ebay
@@Lilybun Yeah, I modded my new 2DS to play Ghost Trick and TWEWY for the first time, as well as the Sonic Rush Games again. Some GBA Games too like the Klonoa GBA titles (buy KLONOA Phantasy Reverie Series btw)
It is such a good homebrew system and joking copypasta aside, I highly recommend anyone even remotely interested in playing DS, 3DS, and Gameboy/Advanced games in that form factor to pick one up. You don't even need one of those bootleg cartridges just a space on the SD card
@@QuestionableLogic_ I still use my 3DS pretty frequently, but I've never messed with homebrewing it before. If I were to, would it mess up any of the "vanilla" games I have downloaded or their save files? Also, could you reccomend a good place to find instructions on how it all works?
@@TrueYankeeFan The way my homebrew setup worked never messed with system updates, eshop or online functionality so I dont think it would mess with your stuff either. Dont remember where I got it from specifically, I just googled how to set it up and it was pretty easy, at least compared to how incredibly obtuse homebrew was to set up when the console was new
@@TrueYankeeFan it doesn’t mess with that stuff
A month ago, I committed the most abhorrent sin according to Nintendo's eyes.
I pirated and emulated GameCube games on Dolphin.
And did not feel guilty.
At all.
your days are numbered buckaroo
You will be taken out by their assassins in a few hours. Hope it was worth it
Congrats! There are many great games that can only be played like that now, since NSO is pretty bad.
Well your c***
So... You feel guilty when emulating non Nintendo games?
This is why I love SEGA where they actually encourage their fans to make fan games, heck even praising their fans for making fanart, fan games, and fan films
Yeah but at the same time they cant make anything themselves the best sonic game in ages was mania which was a fan game they funded sega without fan games would go bankrupt at least nintendo can make a good game
@@jknifgijdfui you are correct with that for SEGA with their games but in all honesty if you put in perspective the only bad Sonic Games in the 2010s were Sonic Boom, and Sonic Forces respectively, Sonic Origins is honestly an outlier but Sonic Frontiers I'm very excited for that to be launched.
@@ds2561 sonic frontiers looks good but not as good as bowser fury
@@maplemiles3381 facts! Although I still have faith for Sonic Frontiers. The Sonic complainers just need to chill out
@@M64bros I'm on the fence I like the combat in it
Rule of thumb with big multi-national gaming companies: There are always a few good actors that make everything better, but the corporate folks are demons.
Iwata was different
@@FormulaFanboy I miss Iwata
@@FormulaFanboy4:40 Reggie fils-aime too lol I was wondering who phillamy was lol pronounced fees-a-me, Reggie 😂. Though his disrupting the game book has a typos warning on Amazon, and audiobook has an exclusive dlc like interview. But thankful he got wii sports bundled with the console. GameStop thought he couldn’t be trusted with secrets, so he left.
I do recommend the ask iwata book. Better quality control and to the point, rather than typos and not have enough gaming info. There’s also the doomguy book by John Romero (nice way to celebrate quake 2) that is great as well.
Nothing about their behavior during the 80's? Demanding 3 year exclusivity for any game released on NES, preventing retailers from slashing prices on games...
That in itself leading to some of the third party developers to move on to other systems for more freedom. Fun stuff.
@@KonaKonaKaabisteru Nintendo was the reason the PlayStation became so successful.
One thing I can't stand is the instinct of nintendo fans to come to the defense saying "it's within their legal rights" to make the competitive smash scene and nintendo content creator's life a living hell when their actions harm their reputation, don't benefit them financially and don't protect anything since they are not producing a lot of the old products that people want to play.
Nobody is arguing that’s illegal either, which is why those folks miss the point.
Just because you have the legal right to do something, doesn’t mean its the right thing to do.
@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 100%
As part of the melee community it’s nice to see everyone else seeing the kind of shit we’ve been putting up with for well over a decade
Bruh just move on... I left Nintendo in the dirt and stopped paying anything to them, it is a shame I was able to download a rom and play it in a Switch emulator BEFORE it even releases to people who already paid for it beforehand...
I don't understand why the Smash players keep beating a dead horse instead of move on and play a new game... they keep the most toxic relationship alive
Melee has had nothing to do with nintendo other than bans from tournaments. Trying to hang on to a broken old fighting game by an ancient dev is never going to work for you.
Move on kid, melee is dead.
@@Mark-ps7eh point and laugh guys
@@Lanzetsu I don't think you would understand competitive smash melee players. 😏 You're just an outsider looking in. Yes, this game is 2 decades old. Yes, they still carry old-fashioned crt tvs, but for you to say its a dead horse is nothing but false. People get paid/sponsored to play a game like that. The community is an extremely active that carries its own weight despite Nintendo's involvement. Is it Toxic? Do some of those players smell like shit and piss? Fuck yeah. However It's far from dead, if so, then why would Nintendo themselves partner up with Panda Global to host something the Panda Cup? Why is there a cash prize for it? I await your explanation. I don't do competitive smash anymore, but I can respect it for what they can do.
Watching Nintendo try to tackle piracy and modding is truly among the most hilarious events of this generation.
No company is on your side. They will only be on your side (temporarily) if you pay them or you run it.
Yes and no, corporations only become corporations once all they care about is money and power and pleasing share holders.
People say indie games are the best but they can easily go the same way in a heartbeat
As a nintendo gamer: Nintendo is like a japanese step dad who acts warm and nice when you first meet him, he convinces your mom he's a family man, hard working, studious, and has a big heart. Then a few years go by, he is passive aggressive, he yells at you for tiny things, sometimes you feel he can't stand you just being in the same room as him, he communicates in all but words that he hates you, he did go to your little league baseball game a couple times, but mostly to win points with mom and tell you your trash and need to play better. Then once you're a teenager, you get into a fight and he kicks you out of your home. A few year later, you come back home to find he and mom have taken to foster care, and let me tell you, they love those little foster kids more then they ever loved you.
That's been my experience with nintendo
that’s...oddly specific?
I actually wrote a letter to Nintendo as proof that they still listen to their fans and they do after I told them about the whole people using Iwata's death as a weapon against them but thankfully it's not happening anymore.
@@M64bros ...so?
@@EbonMaster just telling people the truth.
@@EbonMaster Also, thank you for mentioning that this was also happening during the Iwata era. I'm absolutely sick of people pretending everything was beautiful and pretty when both Iwata and Reggie were still around. It's just that people using both as an excuse of them won't make a difference.
They're the Disney of videogames
Kid friendly until income is involved
At least disney lets you watch their good old movies. Good luck getting your hands on hgss or bw2 if you dont have one already, last i checked the former were 200 bucks second hand and they killed 3ds shop before ever releasing digital versions of half of their best selling ds titles
I dunno, Disney owns Hulu, ESPN, almost 50 percent of Hollywood, and could live exclusively off their theme parks alone if they wanted to. That's not mentioning their hand in every other form of merchandise imaginable.
Nintendo's not very consumer friendly, but Disney is an active problem in the global entertainment economy.
@@citizenlame246 name something disney doesn't own or wants to own lol
Monopoly on entertainment for sure
@@citizenlame246 I just realized, you might wanna change your legal first name, disney might sue XD
Combines the worst of Disney and the worst of Apple while having an outdated company policy made by old Japanese people.
Nintendo is my childhood, but I'll always miss the the GC era Nintendo.
Wii era better
Omg so true
Nintendos always been shifty we were just naive kids
Nintendo back in the 80's, 90's used to work with the Yakuza, there was even a weird incident where all of the prototypes or materials for a rival console were robbed suddenly, I can't remember if it was the mega drive or the Sega Genesis
Do you remember how Nintendo prohibited the winner of the Smash tournament on EVO Japan to be rewarded money and only gave them a golden Pro Controller?
I am pretty sure this had more to do with the japanese gambling laws...
@@RFLCPTR that didn't stop all the other games from getting actual prize pots from their developers
A golden pro controller is still something I will be more happy to win a gold medal over cash
I used to play smash in high school back in the late 2000s and I ended up quiting smash because they would shut down locals. THEY KILLED THEIR OWN GAME. Funny enough 6 years later Blizzard would do the same with Overwatch. That is a riiiiip
Then to add salt to injury, smash brawl fighting style was purposely designed to be a party game thanks to tripping.
@@therealjaystone2344 Yeah I remember ngl as bad as the Wi-Fi was on the Wii I remember doing the ladder on websites like Allisbrawl and what not good times haha. I remember doing online tournaments a few times man time flys
Some food for thought, since they've become too big to fail, it'd take a countrywide boycott just to significantly impact their bottom-line, and it'll take more than that to convince them to change their ways.
Man I'm so glad this stuff is finally coming to light. I've been saying this for years, thank you so much for this video!
Valve - Nice mod, want a job?
Nintendo - Omaewa mou shindeiru
If Nintendo wasn't such a shitty company behind the scenes they would literally be the best fucking video game company of all time
Agreed Nintendo has one of the strongest IPs on their hands and somehow they manage to ruin themselves by shitty basic business practices. Sony and Microsoft would be completely left in the dust in the gaming industry if Nintendo JUST has even the most BASIC action towards proper customer service there.
@@dereklucks4549 agree. But on the other hand we know that direct competition with Sony and Microsoft is a bad idea. Like they succeed when instead of going with what is reasonable, they go "who cares Sony is making new gta on psp, LETS MAKE BRAIN AGE"
Why is this a shock? Nintendo the corporation has always been cutthroat and ruthless against anyone that opposes them.
They have been like this since the 80s.
I learned a long time ago to separate Nintendo the game developer and publisher from Nintendo the corporation.
You know it's bad when SMG4 made a Story Arc about it.
Remember when video games were just fun? Now it's the same cost as your apartment rent.
The situation in smash is odd to me cause even Sakurai likes the competitive side
Sakurai was the director of Smash and was the main cause of the watering down of competition in the transition of melee to smash 4. he only warmed up to it retroactively in ultimate years later.
@@josephmama6212 Nintendo didn't want another Melee and demanded Sakurai make Brawl more casual
I bet if Sakurai did smash for Sega instead of Nintendo, it would have been different
Well, this officially aged like milk after what the competitive Community has done behind the scenes
Why nintendo is hostile?
2 words : Japanese boomers
As someone who worked on Project M, I am always livid when I see how they treat our players. Unlike Nintendo, I actually love the fans of our work. I want them to be happy and succeed. The difference is we don't make a cent out of it, yet we care far more.
Nintendo exists because of "us". They should be thankful we put them in this position to begin with.
Nintendo has done far more tuan even this video shows, and it would take an entire documentary to talk about everything.
Nintendo should not get a pass. Ever.
ok but they have mario kart tho
@Nuke Sony Hey, I got an idea. Let people enjoy mods.
@Nuke Sony I see how it is. Not worth debating with you.
@Nuke Sony fanboyism is never a good thing
@Nuke Sony That made no sense, whatsoever.
I'm surprised they were so petty with the joy cons. I remember way back when I called the number on the bottom of my GameCube and we were able to send it back to get fixed when we were having problems with the disk drive for free
Here is one you forgot. That dates back to the NES era.
Nintendo's certification on the NES.
They bullied devs back when NEC launched the Turbografix/PCEngine, if they made games for that platform, they would pull their Nintendo Certification for their consoles.
I work at a game store. It is very easy to see that the general good-will toward Nintendo has dwindled. Especially with Tears of the Kingdom being $70. I've seen many of my customers hesitant to pre-order any AAA Nintendo game out of fear due to lack of polish/content from previous titles Nintendo has released recently.
I never thought Nintendo was friendly. Then again I've been a melee player for many, many years. They have been screwing us over from day 1. They don't just not support us, they have in the past actively gone out of their way and spent resources to fight against tournaments and streaming of the game. They famously tried to block Evo from streaming the game and had to back down due to massive backlash, which was considered a huge win at the time but at the same time it didn't help all the other tournaments that got screwed over or the fact that the PM scene got outright destroyed. They could have spent the same money they were using on legal fees and cease and desist notices and sponsored the event instead. Rather than burning PM to the ground they could have hired some of the devs and maybe in ultimate there couldve been a game mode called like "retro smash" or something that uses melee physics. But instead of embracing the mods and making the game better and uniting the smash communities they just burned PM to the ground. It makes no sense. Even from a money perspective. Melee has a massive scene of players about on par with ultimate. Half of their player base isn't spending money on the new game...
Edit: well clearly I hadn't finished watching the video before I commented. I'm really glad you addressed melee.
I think they just don’t need to. Releasing a lazy new game catering to the masses makes them more than enough easy money.
Also don’t underestimate the ratio of casual mainstream gamers to hardcore competitive audience.
Tbf your community stinks.
This would be a good home movies episode
Well why would a company supported a modded game that gets then no revenue and minimal to no benefit. I think people have just gotten used to companies supporting mods and stuff that they get mad at nintnedo when they don't just because they expect every business in the industry to follow what others are doing. Nintendo is jusy protecting their product and IP. Technically and legally we in the community are the ones doing wrong because we don't have the legal rights to mod or broadcast without permission. Fair use technically is a work around but it's not a perfect system. Especially since it's a US law and so a Japanese company like nintendo doesn't need to abide by it. It's just a massive cultural difference which is also why most fans who are upset are American/follow a more American presence online.
It's not on par with Ultimate in terms of size/entrants. But it might have been if it had been allowed to flourish, it might have been bigger even
Sadly this is nothing new. Development wise nintendo has progressed far but business wise well nintendo hasnt survived for over 100 years while many of their business counterparts have fallen for a good reason.
To us its nasty practice. To them its just doing business in an ever competitive environment. Like every big corporation.
Nintendo is a corporation. So what theyre doing in the end is nothing new
@@simonchai3040 its bad for business to not sell their own games, they dont make any money on ebay scalpers who have the only legitimate copies available so theyre straight up leaving money on the table
From the outside looking in it may seem like bad business practice. But at the same time their 140 yr survival probably means they are doing something right. Which that kind of info only they are privy too.
Do we want them to be more generous. Oh yeah. But as we all know generiousity doesnt actually exist in the real sense when running any kind of business.
@@simonchai3040 It's not some secret info only they have access to nor is it essential for their long term survival to not sell their own goods and services in the age of digital distribution. Its bad and lazy business, like a supermarket that buys stock just to let it rot in a warehouse because they make enough money selling other goods to not have to care about the waste.
Nintendo is currently big enough that they can run their monolithic business with free money left on the table with little care or concern. This wasnt the case for the vast majority of their 140y history in case you didnt know.
Its weird but this is like the 10th instance this week of me seeing this phenomenon of "well they're doing it so it must be something they HAVE to do" despite evidence to the contrary (for several unrelated topics). Nintendo's practices arent always in anyones best interest in the long run, even their own (see the Wii U era and their decisions during that time, including their old CZcams policy). Their general mindset tends to be "pushing for more control is better" but, as history has shown, that's not always the case.
I'm really curious now after watching a couple of these kinds of videos on Nintendo, does Nintendo of Japan operate/think in similar/same ways as Nintendo of America does? How does Nintendo of Japan think of emulators and roms? Are there cease and desist letters being sent to Japanese citizens over some issue?
Actually, now that I think about it, I do remember one thing that happened in Japan, had to do with Go-Karts and using Nintendo like something or another that forced them to change the name of the whole thing. So perhaps they are😬
0:14 Correction: The GAMES they make have a special place in my heart. Nintendo as a company itself, does not. Very important distinction.
Finally a real guy that knows the truth, The only part I don't like about Nintendo is their broken DMCA bot or team in Japan. But I still respect their developers manners that work on those games
The Devs inside the company made the games you love, who most of them don't even work there anymore but luckily for Nintendo they have some good talent still.
Nintendo is just a corporate husk of a company
Why not Nintendo hire those very same modders to make your older game playable to make them available for switch
Just beat Odyssey on my PC a month or so ago. Decent game.
@Jeff Logan Yeah i just emulated it. A Lot more fun for me at least than playing it on a underpowered handheld. Heck if Nintendo put its game on steam i'd probably get them on a sale sooner or later. But hey its their prerogative,
@Jeff Logan I get that. All good. They got a lot of money off me back in my salad days at least haha.
If we _dont_ criticize them, they will not improve, if a 3rd party criticizes them and pressures them into going forward with improvements they wouldn’t do on their own, they’re _forced_ to improve lest their relationship with said 3rd party become strained somewhat. This is how corporations function unfortunately
The smash and splatoon communities were pretty much vocal when Nintendo filed a cease and desist on The Big House for online melee. The splatoon community actually changed their nicknames to #freemelee. They paid attention to it, they didn't care, resulting in the Top 8 for the official tournament to not be aired.
@@Hondunu Splatoon fans are shills too lol
Sadly even if u criticize em, they refuse to improve either.
@@PickledKong64 Same goes with the smash fans. The smash community is a cold-blooded toxic community itself that used Iwata's death as a weapon and sent death threats to Sakurai and his team over a stupid DLC fighter that never made it to Smash and continuing to spam free melee considering some of the people don't play Melee and aren't interested in melee. I'm just very happy and satisfied that the community itself is already dead. It's kind of cute and funny how the CZcams channel itself is an esports community considering they never told you about the toxic side. Probably because they're hiding something they don't want us to see.
@@invertbrid well since Japan lacks the message of eternal gift
It is ALMOST guaranteed Nintendo goes to Hades for each person who died.
Nintendo stalked a man?! The fuck?! How have they not been taken to court for invasion of privacy?
i hadn't touch my switch in a long time ago and when covid first started i thought i would buy some games and play. unfortunately i was logged out of my nintendo account so i tried to send a reset password email. it never was delivered to me and for the past 3 years i couldnt play multiplayer games. i put it down for a while but like a month ago i tried it again and it was delivered to me for the first time.
Always pirate Nintendo games
True
@@mr.junior7880 as long as those are not supported consoles anymore(i include 3ds and Wii u here) i fully agree, since there is a major difference between emulation and piracy.
@@Jebudu-cm9id Right!
@@Jebudu-cm9id no pirate the modern stuff to
@@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771 i think then we are crossing a line a bit here, I still consider fighting fire with fire as idiotic
Coming back to this after they just shut down SWT... what the fuck are they doing
That's the panda CEO
Very strong Video! A good Compilation of all the bad things that are happening at Nintendo.
No matter how amazing a game is when everything around the platform from the console to the services are terrible and anti-consumer it's hard to keep loving Nintendo
I know I will sound like an asshole, but buy an Xbox you will have opposite problem
@@Jebudu-cm9id better yet, steal an Xbox
@@rollman3044 fucking worse I have one. I have a pc already. What did I gain from this?
@@Jebudu-cm9id controllers that work by default on both of them?
@@Amsel_616 yea it broke, but on my fault I used a shitty ass cable to connect the controller. Yeah I gained a kick ass controller.
12:26 Okay so putting an image of Masahiro Sakurai here is... _kind_ of in bad taste, because he's pretty much a third party contractor who hasn't, to my knowledge, done anything to the Smash community (and if anything, him and his team are the reason characters like Bayonetta got nerfed as requested).
Also, unlike Nintendo so far, he's actively realized many fans' dreams by pulling strings to get Cloud (and later Sephiroth) in the game; not to mention King K.Rool and Ridley, two of the most requested characters in Smash.
Hell, even Byleth was a community nod, since that character's trailer directly references the amount of Fire Emblem swordsmen that popped up (a common complain by competitive players around the world) only for him to use more than just a sword.
As a last point, Sakurai also directly addressed that adding Steve from Minecraft was Nintendo's idea, which suggests that he's not a part of their business landscape.
Pretty much confirmed at this point, since he's got his own company.
I... know this must sound super nerdy to anyone who doesn't know any of this, and I apologize for that. I just want to say that this is the wrong target to put in this video. I usually don't comment this way for this channel, but I'd feel shitty not doing so when I have genuine stuff to share on this topic.
If I got any of this wrong and Sakurai's actually just as big an asshole, _please_ let me know.
nope you're not wrong my friend
He is Also the creator of Kirby, who Sakurai gave to HAL labs, and that was his best decision because HAL(And Sakurai) cares about the Kirby fanbase, giving out great Kirby games, tv show, orchestras, mini story books ect. Kirby and the ForgottenLand, Kirby's Dream Buffet and Kirby's Return to Dreamland Deluxe( Coming next year) shows that HAL, definitely cares about Kirby fans. The only time they did things Nintendo's way was with star allies..and they never did that again.
@@alphonsejohnson5601 Oh, I am _very_ aware of that. His li'l pink boi is in good hands, too, it's great.
Though I gotta say, Despite having elements of commercial stuff, Star Allies in an absolutely amazing send-off to everything Kirby's done from Super NES all the way to the 3DS and Wii. Like seriously, there's a lot to love about this game.
That said, yeah this added element is totally why I posted the originnal comment! Sakurai deserves lots of respect, and doesn't have much to do with Nintendo's marketing stupidity.
Have a Like, by the way! Kirby deserves love, and it's nice to see that you know exactly why that is. ^_^
@@nnayylewis4733 Thanks for the support ^_^ I appreciate the positivity.
@@twaggytheatricks4960 No problem, I've been a loyal Kirby fan since 2008 and I would have never been interested in Nintendo if Kirby didn't exist.
Sold my Switch for the Steam Deck and likely not looking back. Yuzu is getting multiplayer compatibility and that will be really nice for emulated switch games. Nintendo doesn't deserve the benefit of a piracy moral compass for how much they rely on the same Switch goalposts since 2018 "wait for NSO update, wait for BoTW 2, wait for switch pro, dont sell switch online is great", keep eshop prices at 60$ from 2016/17, the limited mario anniversary DIGITAL launch, etc. Would recommend saving your $300 or $349 for a Steam Deck that's capable of much more.
Not everyone can afford a steam deck and make fun of innocent people who can't even afford one. I have a Windows 11 and a Xbox 360 but not everyone is rich and spoiled
@@M64bros Where did I make fun of people? Where did you assume rich and spoiled? Say I bought a switch oled for $349, 4-5 games, the 12 month only collection onlune membership. I could buy a Steam Deck or even a PC, stop sipping your copium.
@@DrBeevo I'm not saying you're making fun of innocent people. I'm just telling you the examples of what's been happening outside of the hate that I'm sure some of the complainers didn't tell you or what you know about them. Also, I tried getting a steam deck on my own But unfortunately, almost All of them are expensive on eBay.
@@DrBeevo Sorry if I confused you a little bit.
I dropped Nintendo after being a loyal fan for 20 yrs after joycon drift
We have to boycott them, we'll buy every Nintendo product used now
I stopped supporting Nintendo a long time ago. Now I buy their games used and have never felt guilt playing their sh*t on an emulator.
Being a smash player and seeing their constant aggressiveness towards the community, coupled with their predatory behavior towards consumers made me hate nintendo above all other companies. What they said to treehouse guys for SUGGESTING a nuzlocke run is a primary example of how shitty of a company they are
Blame Miyamoto for Nintendo's success
I am not defending nintendo however I would like to point out some misinformation in this video so you know. Nintendo online is not 5 dollars a months. It is 20 dollars a year. And joy-cons that drift can be send in for repair completely for free no matter what. I am pretty sure everything else in this video is correct.
Wait what about the panda thing? Like smash tournament or something(I don't own any smash game so I don't know)
Finally a real actual dude that knows the truth!
Nintendo took down many fun things...
For example SMBX,Taia777 internet check point and pokemon brick bronze and many others...
Somehow there's still online and still available for download
@@M64bros pokemon brick bronze is unavalible there are copies but they get taken down quick so spending time in them is useless
And super mario obby also pokedex ex these games were made in roblox so theres no way to recover them
Also you answered my comment again? You did it too in one of chaomixs videos
@@Blaze-gq4bd That Sonic CZcamsr? Yeah, comment on his videos before. But I'm sure he doesn't even know that I myself actually wrote a letter to Nintendo as proof that they still listen to their fans. If you're interested, go to my most popular videos and scroll down until you find a video called. Nintendo has officially responded to me and you'll see what I mean.
Also, I'm aware that the Roblox games are down but at least Super Mario Bros x is still available for download along with the other Mario fan games. Super Mario 63, Super Smash flash 2 and the other older ones.
@@Blaze-gq4bd Also I've defended Sonic Frontiers ever since day one when it was getting a lot of backlash, I'm sure switch force was crying bloody murder when we prove to him he was wrong. Also, I like Sonic the Hedgehog but I dislike his toxic fanbase. However I do respect the respectful side
funny enough they even shut down a Splatoon tournament because the comp scene for the franchise at the time saw what was happening to melee and in protest, immediately responded by changing their tags to variations on Melee or FreeMelee.
let me re-iterate: they stopped footage of a Splatoon tournament from playing because they were butthurt over the players supporting Melee's comp scene.
For me I knew how bad Nintendo really are back in the 80s when they had a strong hold on the video gaming industry and I remember when and where I was when I first played any Nintendo games as a kid for the first time.
1980 (age 8) - Got the Game & Watch games from Woolworth in NYC.
1981 (age 9) - Played my first Donkey Kong arcade in a pizza restaurant at NYC Essex and Delancey street.
1985 (age 13) - Got the NES Deluxe Set with Rob from NYC store.
The NES does not count when it comes to sales. Nintendo cheated with it's illegal monopoly forcing nearly every retailer to only sell NES consoles and games, and forcing all 3rd party companies to make games only for the NES. Anyone who tells you that the NES has a legitimate sales margin compared to the competition is deceiving you. It was all forced. Think communism but in a video game industry. When there is nothing else to buy at the local shopping mall, the only choice parents had was the NES. Toys R Us and Macy's were the only retailers that I know of that sold the Sega Master System way back in the day. Control!, Control!, Control! - czcams.com/video/nwd56K7rp7A/video.html
Yeah, Nintendo's policies were pretty crap in the 80's. Still, it's not like they forced the developers to sign the retarded contracts in the first place. If they didn't want to sell out to Nintendo they didn't have to, so while obviously most of the blame goes to Nintendo, the developers were looking at teh munnies too.
Actually, they did force publishers; that was the problem. If you wanted to release games for the Master System, TG-16 or 7800, Nintendo wouldn't sell you or would undersell you cartridges, if it allowed you to release games for the NES at all. It would also "ask" retailers not to carry your product.
It was a massive success, Nintendo carved out it's own market and made it very hard for competitors. Evil? Perhaps but to the victor goes the spoils.
Being successful doesn't give a company any right to monopolize the market and remove consumer choice. The fact that Nintendo's massive dominance evaporated once it no longer had complete control shows that consumers wanted options.
Even AAA Game Publishers Think Nintendo Switch is for Kids Nintendo did this to them self in three strikes.
strikes one: Nintendo marketed there gaming system as a toy after the VG Crash of 83.
strikes two: Nintendo wanted to brand there systems as "family friendly" after they censored MK1 for SNES.
strikes three: Nintendo created all there IP like Mario, Luigi and Princess Peach in the style of Disney characters.
And you wonder why everyone and there uncle see Nintendo as a kid company.
Damn what an interesting data you put there, thanks for the info, I didn't know it was THAT BAD
@@Lanzetsu Yeah there's many more back story on Nintendo supplely bully other companies from even selling there games as Atari try but failed in a bad way but still show Nintendo side not in a good light czcams.com/video/vu_btLmrH2I/video.html
This is super consistent with their recent overcontrolling policies so it kinda seems legit.
"Think communism in the video game industry" my brother in christ you literally just described unrestricted capitalism
Well Nintendo gets what they deserve since N64 where third party games are impossible to make on Nintendo consoles
Nintendo did not have GTA on GameCube, even if they wanted to but GameCube discs are too small
For the love of God if you're gonna shut down pokemon Uranium for violating copyright then the least Nintendo could do is actually make the modern pokemon games worth playing so I don't have to resort to rom hacks.
Isn't Pokémon Arceus good?
@@alphonsejohnson5601 I'd agree that legends arceus was good, but its like comparing apples to oranges. Legends Arceus was great but in terms of traditional pokemon games, they haven't made a good one since SM (I think USUM was great but its too close to the original to be worth buying if you already had SM in my opinion.)
@@ethanwolters7901 heard that's because the A-team who usually worked on Pokemon got bored or afraid of monotone branding, were working on Little Town Hero at the time, and only returned for remakes or spinoffs(like Legends) while mainline Pokemon games were done by the B-team newbies
Here an idea, Nintendo is actually Yakuza and they works as such.
And Shigeru Miyamoto was the spike of it's gain
@@bailujen8052 So what you're basically saying is Shigeru Miyamoto is The bad guy and wishing he's dead. Am I correct?
Cuz that's something all Complainers say
@@M64bros Miyamoto gets more praise and blame than he deserves
@@aquamanbeforehewascool5347 So you think he's doing all those decisions even though he's not the CEO of Nintendo
@@M64bros Exactly not, hence my comment. Many people always pretend that Miyamoto is like Nintendo himself, that he is responsible for all decisions and that the rest of the people in the credits just programmed everything as Miyamoto tasked. So I'm with you
I would say a smash tournament shut down is just out right a slap to the fans for smash and as of now 2023 the games and things Nintendo is cooking up is not that great and other’s problems arises if these things don’t get resolved. It is a great interest that Nintendo needs to change.
They have already changed but the smash community basically killed themselves. Especially after being exposed for having p3dos and pr3dators in their community
Nintendo fell off ever since they started cracking down on Project M. That and shutting down melee tournaments. After that, they just suck now. The games are good, but their practices are reprehensible for how family friendly and open they seem.
They do literal mafioso tactics to take down fangames. If its getting to that point, I think we need to scale it back and think: Seems like overkill for a fangame. You know, a game made by a fan that is most commonly non-profit? I think that deserves scrutiny regardless of how good their games are.
But knowing how there are actual brainlets who still buy Madden every year, I majorly doubt consumers will stop buying Nintendo games en masse anytime soon. This will keep going until the money stops flowing. Stop giving them money, and they will start to listen. You take away their power, and they are about as beneath us as the average joe. Do what you must boys. #NintendNO
yes, I buy games on switch. but they're all 3rd party now except kirby (which can count as 2nd party. nintendo publishes and has partial ownership, HAL develops and also has ownership). but I only do so for the devs so their hard work isn't wasted.
@@turretboi Sure but like, we gotta let them know their shady practices aint going unnoticed, and the way to do that? Stop buying their stuff. If enough people can do it, they will have minimal choice but to comply.
Notice how they stopped their lootboxes after it couldnt be played in Belgium due to laws? Thats clearly to keep the money coming, not really to allow accesibility to em. That tells me they will listen if the money is on the line.
So really, that makes the play obvious: Dont buy their shizz. Dont buy Nintendo Online, their merch, their games or their consoles. If a mass group can do that, it will be felt by them. Words do nothing, but actions do.
it may work in the USA. but good luck persuading those in Japan where they have fans of immense stronghold.
Don't forget that most of their culture is group harmony centric. Not individual centric. Persuade the group, you got a better shot at potential change in culture movements.
@@sammichu1906 yes i am. But it still supports the devs and is actually more powerful than my potato computer
You actually support a smash community that has a lot of terrible actions and has a toxic community that sends Sakurai and his team death threats?
If only successful companies weren't actual bullshit
i knew this company was bad, but had no clue it was this awful...
It was never awful. The complainers are just bringing back the stuff back from 2020 and continue to cry about it 24/7. Also what's even worse is there are people out there that are using Iwata's death as a weapon against Nintendo saying "Nintendo died with Iwata". Also the complainers attack innocent people for liking Mario strikers and switch sports. Those types of people like the game but Still admit they need improvements but get attacked anyway
@@M64bros I wouldn't say that "Nintendo died with Iwata" is meant to be a weapon or insult, but rather something to pay honor to Iwata, as he's seen as the reason why this Nintendo period was "good". At least that's how it seemed to me.
It always makes me glad when someone covers this... I've been talking about this sort of thing for a long time and always get a ton of hate. You know the type of person that defends them no matter what messed up thing they've done? It is because of delusional people like this that they keep getting away with these things. Hell, you can go all the way back to our childhoods where they did everything they could to force other developers to ONLY make games for their system and not a competitor; if you wanted your game to be on a Nintendo system they forced you to sign an agreement that it wouldn't be on any other system. They did everything they could to create a monopoly and everyone forgets that.
To be fair this is practically every company in the industry.
Unfortunately.
@Nuke Sony
Probably because unlike the other companies, Nintendo consistently gets defended, even when they make horrible decisions.
i don’t think anyone with more than surface knowledge would think nintendo as friendly
And this doesn’t even mention the lack of content in new games. The Mario Kart DLC, newest Mario Party’s, Mario Tennis Aces, and Mario Strikers especially, all were designed so that the consumer buys an incomplete game, Nintendo bets their money, and then decides how much additional content they’ll add. Such a shitty company
Ayo the Mario Kart DLC is actually a pretty decent deal. All the other ones do not have content. That I agree with
@@danielestrada5511 i also disagree with mario party one, depending if he means super stars or the remake one, since even without one board remake is still really solid.
@@Jebudu-cm9id for sure super stars. Remake is solid
Yeah, if you ignore the dozens of games that dont do that.
And they wonder why people pirate there fucking games.
It's genuinely tragic that a company which has produced so many brilliantly-conceptualized games with such innovative and creative ideas is so shit in basically every area beyond game design itself.
One thing that astounds me the most about Nintendo is how much they can actually get away with their failures and bad business practices. They can do everything as mentioned in this video, while also having a couple hardware flops along the way (Virtual Boy, Wii U, etc.), and it feels like for the most part people will go, "eh, whatever" in a week or two. However, if a company like Sega makes their own mistakes (which, Sega surely has), they'll get lambasted *10 times harder* by the general public.
The problem is, Nintendo can afford terrible unethical decision-making because they have the *most memorable* video game franchises of all time, paired with some of the *best* game development talent on their team. So even if Nintendo does something incredibly evil that hurts their PR, they can announce some new big game during one of their Nintendo Directs and people will just eat it up, because of its cute, colorful art style and amazing gameplay. As long as people continue supporting those games, they're unfortunately also supporting bad business practices-- and it's making them money, so they can care less. Nintendo will never have a "lesson to learn", because they're not getting any serious repercussions for their actions.
It's been very confusing to discern what I should do about Nintendo as a consumer. I want to support good games and the developers making those games, but I *don't* want to support a bad company. I think when we hear more about the Switch 2, that may be the turning point for me whether I stop supporting them completely or not.
Slippi is actually not a game mod, it's an emulator mod. The iso is completely unmodified.
Of course the difference is only technical, but the technicality is in the community's favor
Nintendo as a Developer is amazing.
but Nintendo as a Company is dumpster fire
same with every gaming company. everyone's a dumpster fire
"fans had to buy controlers to fix the wondering stick" or you could try to repair it your self maybe? since the part for the stick is only 7-10€ and tutorials on how to fix it are all over youtube...
This channel is slowly starting to look like the score esport. Less and less video games documentary or analysis. And more and more drama, scandal around video games scene
It's odd how the pokemon company (remember they aren't Gamefreak and they don't make games) actually support the competitive community
But they are owned by Nintendo.
@@Hondunu yes so that's why I'm saying it's odd
despite the many flaws of its competitive scene, they still let it play around with support. Unlike all other Nintendo bound ips.
@@jirehtheprovider too bad, most people kinda cheat and get away with it in the Pokémon scene.
@@Hondunu hence why I added that initial sentence of "despite...". They got hacker issues that cannot be avoided and sadly ignored.
yet I still cannot get how Nintendo of Japan Let TPC not close their Pokemon World's and all other local and international Pokemon tourneys with Prize money.
Isn't that what can help their other PVP centric IPs.?
only thing I see missing in this video is Emplemon and his video on you tube about Nintendo's business issues.
Simply, the community should "step out of Never land, and Treat Nintendo as if it is just another gaming company. "
Spread awareness of this kind of stuff!
No specific thoughts on Nintendo since I don't like their games, I had more of a Playstation-childhood (my family had no Nintendo-consoles back in the 90s).
The terrible treatment they give their fans, yet those same fans will fight tooth and nail to defend it. Crazy.
I actually wrote a letter to Nintendo as proof that they still listen to their fans and admire their fans
@@M64bros I'm sure you got a "response" back about that letter.
@@CGImpala yes I did. They told me they're on both sides and admire that I make Mario videos surprisingly. I'm sure no other Nintendo CZcamsr wrote even have the balls to do that
@@M64bros And that's your substantial evidence of Nintendo caring for their fans?
@@CGImpala yeah, I could have joined the others on the Nintendo hate, Right before they decided to use Iwata's death as a weapon against Nintendo, attacking innocent people for liking Mario striker's battle league and switch sports, spreading misinformation about the company, pretending everything was beautiful and pretty when both Iwata and Reggie we're still around during the wii u failure. I love all of the CEOs just the way they are. Also, here's a real fact I'm about to tell you: both Doug Bowser and Shuntaro Furukawa Never made the decision to make the paid online membership, It was planned long before they even became presidents, which means Reggie himself was affiliated with that decision and well Iwata was hospitalized and giving Sakurai the final mission to make Super Smash Bros Ultimate. The thing is some of these people that complained about Nintendo 24/7 can't even get their accurate information and jump straight to make believe conclusions. Me on the other hand, I make sure that information is actually realistic and truthful rather than making up lazy crap just like they are doing. That is why on my CZcams channel I'm always truthful and serious.
Me, a smash fan, knowing they hate me for existing
A smash Meele fan.
@@luigifan001 no just a smash fan at this point.
Well, this needs an update video since Nintendo just released its controversial "Community Tournament Guidelines."
Nobody talking about when every time you play online mario maker 2 someone has to have the McDonald’s Wi-Fi
I wish u good fortune in the wars to come...(in the comment section)
Tbh, many of the points in the vid are either hearsay or just false/outdated reports... Expect the nso... Yeah its bad.
@@Mario123007 which ones then?
@@Mario123007 I'm very sure the employee stuff and such are just speculation and not 100% true. This is BS though. I came here to see what Nintendo is actually bad for! Not what people *assume* they're bad for. The worst part is when people have to go into the deep cobweb news articles and get out grandpa's info just to support their claims. This is getting boring and repetitive. Then it's time to turn over to the "I-don't-know-what-the-hell-else-to say-so-a-word-from-our-sponsor-inator".
we should certainly be mad at the higher ups, but not de the devs.
The devs are clearly verry passionate about their work, the higher ups are just passionate about money.
that's how I see it.
Well, Sakurai has been a dick to Melee players too
The developers wouldn't rush a game if they weren't used to it already. Directors man.
0:28 Mmmmm……. Are you sure about this President. 😒
Hate to be that guy, but you guys used the Mario Bros arcade game release date for the NES Super Mario Bros.
Between Nintendo and Sony the Japanese videogame industry is really behind in almost everything.
This videos is disappointing. It seems to be out of date on purpose to prove their point. I know Nintendo sucks as a company for their practices but they have corrected some things they mentioned here that expected to be mentioned as well. For example, there’s a program that fixes any joycon for free no matter the warranty. You just send them to Nintendo and they fix it. Granted, that doesn’t work worldwide, but it’s present in the biggest markets for Nintendo (na , eu and I believe jp too).
Also, Nintendo is now supporting smash tournaments, melee and ultimate. They are organized by Panda and they appeared on Nintendo news last week, so how is that for support? I know it must have been a pain to get there, but not mentioning in this video that came out literally yesterday is, at least, disappointing. It seems to be left out on purpose to prove a point.
I watch every akshon video and usually like them, but after this, I wonder how could have been misinformed by videos from this channel in the past.
Not cool
Yea, but many of the points are relevant. Employee mistreatment reports for American depo of Nintendo are still coming the last one I found is from end of September. I am not defending poor or manipulative research, i just want to pint out that there are legit points in there
@@Jebudu-cm9id I'm defending Nintendo against the people that are using Iwata's death as a weapon against them in a disgusting and disturbing way that disturbed a bunch of innocent people online. I don't care if Nintendo doesn't care about me, but I do care about their developers and respect their developers manners rather than throwing shade or sending death threats to them over a stupid Smash Bros DLC fighter.
But I won't defend them against their broken DMCA bot or their DMCA team in Japan.
I actually agree with you. To be honest, this Nintendo hate to start to become really boring and ridiculous. All the complainers are just doing is bringing up the past that Nintendo did in the past and just making it worse. Also for what's worse is There are people out there that used Iwata's death as a weapon against Nintendo in a disgusting and disturbing way that disturbed a bunch of innocent people online and their complainers out there that attack anyone for saying Mario strikers battle league is good in their opinion. Even some of the calm Nintendo fans say that those games are good but still need improvements but they still get attacked anyway.
@@Jebudu-cm9id What makes the situation more confusing though is some of the "employees" mentioned along the claims were presumably contractors who weren't even the equivalent of employees being "mistreated". People say they were being treated like...well..."Contractors". At this point you could argue that the conflict has gotten to the point where no solid proof can be adressed for a solid argument other than speculation.
It's good that someone is speaking about this. Even when you're criticizing a company you can be biased in your views. So biased actually that you end up making exaggerations which turn into misconceptions as well as misinformation. Which then creates a fake image of a company which is nowhere near good. It's not entirely for sure to say they ARE good though. Although it might be a tiny tiny bit more believable. There is a lot of stuff going on so it's hard to say *for sure.*
Nintendos leadership lacks self awareness, it's sad because I grew up with Mario games
My relationship with Nintendo is this: I'm absolutely a fanboy of Nintendo's games and some specific developers/development teams, but freaking hate Nintendo as a corporation. I don't need to run over how they own most mainstream game franchises but for sake of detail let's just mention stuff like Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Kirby, Fire Emblem, and even more, and obviously they have incredible developers like Miyamoto, Eiji Aonuma with Zelda, and more recently Hisashi Nogami and his development team working on Animal Crossing and Nintendo's most recent smash hit Splatoon. All of that on its own is fantastic, but everything this video covers has been coming out at full force recently, and I can only hope that it leads to a change if not simply so Nintendo doesn't eventually get one of the biggest PR nightmares in gaming history. The only part of this that was happening during the Iwata era was the Smash thing, and even then Nintendo just kinda shrunk back after a lot of backlash and ignored it after that until 2020 when we had a new president. It seems like Shuntaro Furukawa, Nintendo's current president, is running Nintendo exclusively as a corporation first and foremost, and it's having an impact on the employees, on the dedicated Nintendo fans, and even the casual gamers who just like Nintendo because of Mario.
Unlike the complainers, I actually have faith in Doug Bowser and Shuntaro Furukawa But I will admit that the DMCA stuff is pretty crappy Also real fact, Both Doug Bowser and Shuntaro Furukawa Never made the decision to make the paid online membership, It was planned long before they even became presidents. Let's hope this whole hate comes to an end real soon
@@M64bros Hopefully it will end soon. I am kinda sick and tired of hearing that Nintendo is a bad company.
This stuff was happening during the Iwata era too my friend.
@@AceLoveheart Yeah same here
@@EbonMaster Finally a real person that knows that everything wasn't beautiful and pretty when both Iwata and Reggie were still around. I love both Reggie and Iwata Don't get me wrong but the past was never perfect.
Title is kind of off if you already had a negative opinion of Nintendo
Nintendo are like 20years behind in reality but the gimics keep em alive. Short lived gimics.
Uhh regarding the first one, they do free repair in a lot of places now lol I got mine fixed for free by sending it to Nintendo UK (postage was free just to say)
I can kind of understand cracking down on mods, but the fact that they're so openly hostile to one of their most popular titles competitive scene continuously baffles me. Like from a business standpoint it makes no sense, allowing the game to be mainstream in tournaments can only improve sales and I'm fairly certain companies that allow the games to be played get a sizable cut of the tourney's earnings, so what could the reasoning be? Just confuses me so much.
"oh no! hype! we don't wanna to -deal with cheaters/toxic people- spend much money for game production!"
This wont be an easy thing to change, when it comes to abuse and the status quo in Japan, they sadly go hand in hand, and is the norm, I think in order to make a dent you need to unify the Japanese players/fans along with the global player base cuss at the end of the day they are a Japanese company, hit them in there home turf and we have a chance to make real change for the better.
It's refreshing to finally see people call this shit out. Somewhere between buying an e-reader and the release of the Wii U I started being way more critical of the companies that I supported and realized that Nintendo is just a business that wants to make as much money as they can. They do not care about our childhood nostalgia. They do not care about games preservation. All they care about is their bottom line. It is astounding to me to to see so many CZcamsrs make videos practically pleading with Nintendo to treat them better.
I actively tell my friends to pirate Nintendo games And I hope you all do the same
I would rather not be a criminal like those types of people.
@@M64bros Better stay within the lines of a crosswalk on the road then, don't want the swat team chasing you down for jaywalking either.
@@M64bros quit licking nintendo's boot
@@03chuckie imagine agreeing with a youtube video that also supported a disgusting smash community with p3dos and pr3dators in it
Really glad stuff like this gets more and more attention. Videos like these are really important. Nintendo's been getting away with too much these past years, especially after the huge success of the Switch. If any other company effs up, the community's immediately out to get them. But in Nintendo's case, that's rarely the case, simply forgotten after their next big reveal or some fanboys even step up to protect their shady business without knowing anything about their practices. Gamers need to view Nintendo the same as any other big company such as EA, Ubisoft or Microsoft. If they screw something up, let them know. Like, REALLY let them know.
Ok, enough ranting. Time to play some AM2R.
@@maplemiles3381 Partially, yes. And I think this video brought enough to the table.
Greed is a powerful and disgusting thing.
Racism required. Japan is responsible for the abuse because they are very violent and unprotective to up
Extreme copywrong doesn't protect IP, it ruins both IP and reputation
#FixCopyright
Edit: "Racism required" I am not sure if it would help but Japanese laws need to change.
The reason why I not got a switch is because of how fucking petty Nintendo are over everything. They are sitting on some of the greatest games ever made and do nothing with them. They make 2 games a generation and expect you to buy a new machine to play them.
As long there is nintendo bootlicker they will never truly respect it consumers
Speak louder, get into contact. DO SOMETHING. You guys do the bare minimum to speak for your requests. What makes it even more sad is that you blame the "bootlickers" for all of this. If the mass majority of the fanbase with negative opinions started rioting maybe things would change, but nooooo. It's all the bootlickers fault boo-hoo. "We can't do anything about it cause the bootlickers are in the way. Wahh-haaah"
@@mr.junior7880 licker detected
@@mr.junior7880 hey look! A bootlicker in the wild
How are you meant to convince an entire fanbase to protest Nintendo when they're still using them as their platform?
You just have to accept that Nintendo is no longer a gaming company. They're growing the Disney mentality.
Nintendo is the most anti-consumer company
They're not going to learn anything until they start losing out on their bottom line, at least that's the only hope I see. And with clear reaction and communication from the public as to why they'd be getting boycott. Obviously, I love the games. I don't think I skipped a single generation besides the gamecube, and even then I went back and got the games that mattered to me. I'd really hate to see them go under, but with all the damage done, the community really needs a solid apology. an apology backed up with action. How about you put some of court money you've fought for into someone else's pocket Nintendo? I'd love to see them add to the donation pool just for being monsters. Though I highly doubt it. They've reeked of desperation ever since the Wii U.
Nintendo USED to be family friendly. Now, not only do they accept hentai games in their store, they advertise them
This has been a thing for YEARS, I had to replace the joycon analog sticks. (They are Cheap on Amazon). Because I didn't want to pay $80 USD for new ones.
How long did it take for tours to break i just bought one recently, when shoud I expect the joy con drift fate?
@@Jebudu-cm9id I'm actually not sure when the joycon drift happens, but it started when around or before Smash Ultimate came out. I also don't know what cause it to happen to begin with. Replacing the analog sticks void your warranty, so if you on doing what I did, do it at your own risk. Me? I don't regret shit. Whenever it does happen? Its the cheapest solution I know of, cuz Nintendo forces you to pay a hefty amount to "fix" them for you.