GOD’S FOREKNOWLEDGE & MAN’S FREE WILL (Segment 14)
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- One Day With The Creator, taught by John Lynn of The Living Truth Fellowship. It is a thrilling exposition of one of the most critical and most misunderstood subjects of Christianity.
God gave man genuine free will, and thereby limited
Himself to work within the framework of man’s choices. Thus His
foreknowledge is not absolute, and how things turn out is a
combination of man’s choices and God’s working in the world.
"It takes a greater God to steer a world populated by
people with genuine free will than it does to steer a world
of pre-programmed automatons". (Greg Boyd)
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God bless you John. Thank you for continually attempting to shed light on the eyes of those the god of this age has blinded. Continued prayers for you, your ministry, and all who are involved in it. Your the best!
This message is AWESOME! It strikes at the heart of the lie Satan originally told Eve, which was essentially, "You CAN'T trust God, so you need to take matters into your own hands". IF God is the source of the suffering and pain we see all around us, then Satan was right. Who can trust a god that arbitrarily kills innocent people or worse yet, "allows" it to happen when He (supposedly) could prevent it? Think people! Remember, all of the greatest truths we have today were once "heresies" to those who held tradition higher than truth!
Most Calvinists that I know are one or two “petal” Calvinists, means they only believe in one or two of the five basic tenants of Calvinism that are represented by the letters TULIP, regardless only believing in one or two points of Calvinism is still wrong. What John Lynn is teaching is absolutely correct and a blessing to really live your life knowing that.
Thanks John for helping to make the false accusations our Father's actions and lack of actions clear. Not to say I've ever believed Yahew was the cause of the sickness, pain, sorrow, suffering, hunger, poverty or mankind's worst enemy, death.
God's heart is for us to love Him and freely choose to follow Him and Jesus our Lord - This is a great teaching by John Lynn whom I consider to be a true Apostle of our Time
James R Cathey: Sorry, but there are no more apostles. The last Apostle was John. Why? Because in order for one to be an apostle two criteria had to be met: (1) they were taught directly by Jesus; (2) they were eyewitnesses of the resurrection (Acts 1:21,22). The only office established by Christ Himself and still in existence until He returns is that of pastor (Eph. 4:11ff).
James R Cathey: also this man's teaching is NOT faithful to Holy Scripture.
@@rickpettey8822 When you make statements like that, you really need to show why? Show your work as they say in grade school.
Dan Allan I need to show why? I provided the biblical references in support of the my statements. The "why" is God's domain.
Dan Allan: Upon further reflection, it may be that you ask the question having only read my response to James R Cathey. If so, you need to go further back in the thread where I provided the "why" behind my statement to him. I had already given the reasons for my statement and didn't feel the need to reiterate them. Pax.
hi john Ben V., great teachings ,, always a blessing I have found to listen to in this our day and time ,,, i s there a teaching just addressing Gods spiritual strength the same strength he used when he raised Jesus from the dead ,[ eph. ] and they laied hands on the sick and they recovered ( walk with the father . ?? a question asked today by believers ..
Hi John, I trust your teaching, but have struggled for some time regarding God being outside of time. I know, my mind is only small, but when you read Judges, surely he could have come up with some better than these? However, with a universe so large, I can image time would become an issue for a Creator. I believe as Christians we need to become more aware of the things we can't see. And, as you have said, it's all about prayer. Evan - NZ
I've never had a problem with the idea that God exists outside of time. It seems right to me. In what way does it not set right with you?
@@kg4st I get it, but my mind has difficulty grasping an existence where time doesn't exist.
@@alvinlee55 If God can be fully understood with this small mind we have.
Then he wouldn't be the God to be worshipped .
No one can understand him fully.
You are not the only one.
I do believe in freewill but I also believe our choices are known before hand. We still have choice but God knows the choices we will make. God is outside of time and the world is predestined Genesis 1:31. Everything after Genesis 1:31 in making it Genesis 1:31.
Is this for real 11:00?
Can you be more specific please? :)
John ur still on this CZcams channel?
@Adrian Drake thnx lyn
When you hold that God has limited knowledge, are you not positing that he a God of limited ability, a limited God?
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There is no limits in the knowledge of God; we may not comprehend the whole gamut of his thoughts, its processes or impact but he is not a "limited God". The classic passage on that subject is Psalm 139. David assured us that God knows when we sit down and when we stand up (verse 2). He knows our thoughts before we think them, while they are far away from us (verse 2; cf. also Ezekiel 11:5). He knows all our ways (Psalm 139:3), a word referring to the whole course and conduct of our lives. In other words, He knows everything that we do (cf. also Job 23:10; Proverbs 5:21; Jeremiah 16:7). He knows every word we speak while it is still on our tongues, before it ever comes out of our mouths (Psalm 139:4). He knew the choices of Christ regarding His redemptive plan even before the creation of the foundation of the earth (Ephesian 1.)
***** I recognise your fancy for the view that some knowledge of or acquittance with certain culture (eastern) or philosophical postulation is a stamp of authority for the truth. But the fact is that fatalism, determinism, and predeterminism or even the flip side - indertiminism or any construct of concepts or theories are nothing but academic disputations sneaked into Christianity in vain attempt at unravelling the mystery of the kingdom which is reserved for minds of "babes" (Matthew 18:2-4). You could have been very helpful if you gave a scripture that shows that "God limited Himself" - his ability to know, hence "does not know every thing", rather than resorting to text-book philosophies as if such constructions are canon of scripture. Lastly, "very wonderfully done" sermons abound in all religions, they are not Christian exclusive; but if the philosophy in your sermon diminishes the status of God as supreme and sovereign in power and knowledge suits you, then truly, "lets just disagree".
***** I have listened to it and insist that God knows all our choices. Simply look at Christ as an example, as every choice he will make was known and it was recorded even before his incarnation (Hebrew:10 7"THEN I SAID, 'BEHOLD, I HAVE COME (IN THE SCROLL OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME) TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD.'
God knew that Jesus, fully man, will make choices that will lead to salvation of man. This truth gives meaning to the following scriptures -
Romans 8:29
For THOSE God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters.
Ephesians 1:4
For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love. How can talk of the chosen if he did not know that Jesus will CHOOSE the cross, CHOICE of the father's will.Hence, if he knew the choices of Christ, he also knew our choices. Have a blessed day and keep loving the Lord
***** You need to do some "thinking" ... God is indeed deluged with a constant continuum of "surprises" every second by the "unknown" decisions of men and the milliards of intertwined intersections (multi-complexities) of produced and co-produced reactions that portend infinite unknowns, spirals and wire-frames of yet to be made decisions and actions of about six billion men and counting??? Check out bible commentaries for they hold that you are wrong on this open-theistic postulation.
Being fixated with concepts allows the vain assumptions that you have figured God out,. These postulations add no value to experiential walk with God.
However, if you are open to research, check out these varied commentaries in the following links.
www.studylight.org/commentary/genesis/22-12.html
carm.org/genesis-2212-now-i-know-you-fear-god
I am done with this; if you find the "knowledge limited God" helpful to leading a victorious Christian life and loving God absolutely, by all means remain fixated.
So let me get this straight, God allows us to Kill and Torture because we disagree with something, those actions are in gods nature?
Also Love is not love if we lack the choice not to love, is it really a choice if it isn't a full choice.
Totally agree that "Love is not love if we lack the choice not to love". To answer your question, it is NOT in God's nature to kill and torture, nor is it His nature to WANT for us to kill and torture, but it is within His nature to allow us to CHOOSE what He DOES wants us to do. ♥
WE DONT AGREE WITH TORTURELauren Easley
A Mac IF SOME ONE IS TRYING TO KILL YOU THEN THEY RUN THE RISK OF BEING KILLED