Me too! And I actually think that it sounded even better when it was new. Even though this unit seems to have been taken very good care of, it was probably extensively used, causing some wear of the mechanical parts, resulting in some wobble. This was not addressed in this restoration. Also, as I mention in earlier parts of this restoration series, the original capacitors seem to have been better suited than the replacements, when it comes to noise resilience. So, it probably had even better noise performance originally.
The stereo in the end is beautiful. You probably could do an IR of the frequency response change for use in convolution plugins. Then just need to model that weird lfo for pitch…
Hi Guillermo Lopez! Interesting question. For the electronics, it would probably not be that hard to get most of the schematic right, but it would take quite a lot of time to map everything out. The transformers and motor might be quite a hassle though. If you cannot find matching ones, you might have to order costume parts, which I guess will be very expensive. The one component that will probably hinder your plans is the record head. I think it would be near impossible to find any modern, off the shelf part, that could replace the record head of a wire recorder. When it comes to the mechanics I guess it could be done, but given the complexity and requirements on precision for one of these recorders, it would probably be an immense amount of work.
@@SunandWeather As a matter of fact I vote on this being easier than youd think. The descendants of these machines were reel to reel tape decks. These are just very dumbed down simple versions of reel to reels and as a matter of fact I bet we can make it better today at home than back then in factories,And the heads are actually some of the simplest parts of the machine that with todays tech (wire EDM) could be easily manufactured and youd be suprised. As of right now I am designing my own reel to reel and the electronics are simple, with modern opamps of course. The same principals apply here that do with reel to reels. I think we can do MUCH better than our ancestors. Considering AC bias for improving recording quality on reel to reels was invented in 1929 we can oh so greaty improve the sound. If I were to do it id use off the shellf steel wire and essentially make the same setup as a high end tape deck would have. Erase record and playback head. And of course because were tryint to minimise. If math checks out and you could find someone who would be willing to make a single precision cut in a magnetically soft metal on a wire EDM machine, if you design a wire transport and have it unlike on these machines, actually speed controlled, 100cm/s you could easily record 20kHz onto it. And all this doesnt even need to be sophisticated
Hi Rusnan! Thanks a lot! I believe the only way to erase a recording on this unit is to put it in record mode while there is no input signal, and let it run over the part of the wire that you want to erase. So, if you turn the volume all the way down and start recording it should erase everything that passes through the record/playback head. If you find that it does not erase the data on the wire completely you could repeat this process multiple times.
This is from the manual for the Webster-Chicago Model 228: "Erase If it becomes necessary to erase a recording without, at the same time, placing a new recording on the wire, the wire may be run through in the Run direction with the Volume control turned to minimum and the Dictate button depressed." If your unit does not erase the wire during this procedure, there is most certainly something wrong with it.
I'm quite impressed with the quality of audio from the wire. Much better than I expected.
Me too! And I actually think that it sounded even better when it was new. Even though this unit seems to have been taken very good care of, it was probably extensively used, causing some wear of the mechanical parts, resulting in some wobble. This was not addressed in this restoration.
Also, as I mention in earlier parts of this restoration series, the original capacitors seem to have been better suited than the replacements, when it comes to noise resilience. So, it probably had even better noise performance originally.
And a nicely done RR as well
The stereo in the end is beautiful. You probably could do an IR of the frequency response change for use in convolution plugins. Then just need to model that weird lfo for pitch…
Yeah, it is fascinating how different we perceive sound when we get it in stereo.
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German electricity plugs for audio.
Neat
how hard would it be to replicate one of these?
Hi Guillermo Lopez! Interesting question. For the electronics, it would probably not be that hard to get most of the schematic right, but it would take quite a lot of time to map everything out. The transformers and motor might be quite a hassle though. If you cannot find matching ones, you might have to order costume parts, which I guess will be very expensive. The one component that will probably hinder your plans is the record head. I think it would be near impossible to find any modern, off the shelf part, that could replace the record head of a wire recorder.
When it comes to the mechanics I guess it could be done, but given the complexity and requirements on precision for one of these recorders, it would probably be an immense amount of work.
@@SunandWeather As a matter of fact I vote on this being easier than youd think. The descendants of these machines were reel to reel tape decks. These are just very dumbed down simple versions of reel to reels and as a matter of fact I bet we can make it better today at home than back then in factories,And the heads are actually some of the simplest parts of the machine that with todays tech (wire EDM) could be easily manufactured and youd be suprised.
As of right now I am designing my own reel to reel and the electronics are simple, with modern opamps of course. The same principals apply here that do with reel to reels.
I think we can do MUCH better than our ancestors. Considering AC bias for improving recording quality on reel to reels was invented in 1929 we can oh so greaty improve the sound.
If I were to do it id use off the shellf steel wire and essentially make the same setup as a high end tape deck would have. Erase record and playback head. And of course because were tryint to minimise. If math checks out and you could find someone who would be willing to make a single precision cut in a magnetically soft metal on a wire EDM machine, if you design a wire transport and have it unlike on these machines, actually speed controlled, 100cm/s you could easily record 20kHz onto it. And all this doesnt even need to be sophisticated
I saw your video part 1 to 6 . Is best .... i just want to know ...how abaut erase the record .
Hi Rusnan! Thanks a lot! I believe the only way to erase a recording on this unit is to put it in record mode while there is no input signal, and let it run over the part of the wire that you want to erase. So, if you turn the volume all the way down and start recording it should erase everything that passes through the record/playback head. If you find that it does not erase the data on the wire completely you could repeat this process multiple times.
I ve webcor chicago model 228 . The problem canot erase .
This is from the manual for the Webster-Chicago Model 228: "Erase
If it becomes necessary to erase a recording without,
at the same time, placing a new recording on the wire,
the wire may be run through in the Run direction with
the Volume control turned to minimum and the Dictate
button depressed."
If your unit does not erase the wire during this procedure, there is most certainly something wrong with it.
Oh yes tangs a lot info .