Easy Method - Brutal Challenge 6: Rulers of the Outer Worlds ( Required for 7 star Hotel Trophy)
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- This is one of 2 easier methods, the other one is the limit swapping technique but I found that took too long, spent upwards of 40 mins doing it.
So this is the divekick Tifa method credit to MaliceNX for the strat but it wasn't explained in the video so I thought I would do a video explaining the strat like I said it still takes a bit of skill but has massive damage output and should help you get through it easier. its explained in the video but it basically comes down to buffing Tifas Chi level and then unleashing loads of divekicks! If you have any questions lemme know.
Start Phoenix and Kujata 00:00
Bahamut and Titan 03:44
Odin and Alexander 06:27
Gilgamesh 09:15
Sephiroth 12:35
The Build 19:53 - Hry
Dude thank you so much, it took me 2 days of trying on my own, then I found your channel took me less than 30 minutes finally done with brutal challenges, definetly gonna subscribe, Thank you so much.
Aww awesome dude happy I could help that challenge is stupid but there is harder ones after it. Have you managed to do the legendary ones yet? I'm releasing the last character ones today then the super long ones tomorrow 😊
Dude, your strategy of attacking first & staying within distance of Sephiroth helped a lot. I used another CZcamsr’s idea to have Barrett utilize Barrier-All during the Virtual Sephiroth battle. Both of you guys helped me out a ton.
Thank you man.
Awww I'm so happy it was helpful. Sephiroth is really the only difficulty here just with the fact those chains but yeah barrier is definitely a good shout. I incorporated that in another build.
Limit Support is really helpful! It actually helped me perform Tifa's limt and prevented Gilgames's limit in the last second! Thank you for your video!
Awww nice yeah I always forget about that materia lol.
THANK YOU! This build worked out for me. Needed to get used to Tifa’s combo, and then learning to more consistently parry Odin, Gilgamesh, and Shadowy Chains, but practice made perfect. Beat it on my second try of Sephiroth. I’m now subscribed, thanks so much.
Awesome dude! Congrats 🎉 what have you got left to do in terms of completing it? Thank you for subbing too! I'm gonna be uploading some other builds this week some point too so there are other options too 😄
@@SolestroThank you again! I have the remaining Legendary Combat Challenges (except for Cait Sith, managed to do that after a few tries), but decided to take a “break” by doing some Chapters in Hard mode for now. I’ll definitely be looking at videos for the remaining Legendary simulations so would love to check yours out if / when you’ll have them.
I just wanted to add that I what appreciated most about your video is hearing you talk through what you were thinking as you were doing each battle and going through the materia. I’ve been following some trophy guide videos for other simulations, but being able to hear your thoughts out loud is what really helped me out.
@@anothermarvelfan5142 I will defo be doing the other VR missions again just to record them so I can show easier ways to blast through them so hopefully they are helpful.
Oh really? I always just think im rambling most of the time but its good to hear that it was helpful for you :D
Finally managed to beat this using your guide as a base! Finally managed to consistently beat Greg using magnified manawall on Cloud and Esuna on Barret. Had to clutch up on parries to finally beat Sephy but its finally done!! Thank you kindly!
Awww so happy that you finally did it well done. Is that them all done for you?
I spot a FFXIV player! Lali-ho!
Thank you so much really thought I wasn't going to get through this despite the fact I'd platinumed both remake and intermission.
Thanks for the vid dude! Very informative and great, liked it alot. I will try this out but modify it a little. Cheers!
Aww thanks dude hopefully you can get it done 😁
Thanks for making a vid with not only footage, but an explanation. I tried this build before, but I wasnt maxed out and left unimpressed. Tried it again now, and wow...
Other very good build is aerith and yuffie atb spam with mp aborb, but not as good vs seph
Dunno about anyone else, but I'm fed up with challenges that bore you through easy rounds just to practice the challenging part. Well prepped, you can enter these rounds full hp n mp anyways, so...
agreed and noted.
I'm stuck on gilgamesh, been using cloud, barret, and red (completely different build). This was a well done video and gave me some good ideas/tips on how to progress. Thanks! Also liked and subbed.
Still had a little trouble with Gilgamesh after this video but absolutely DECIMATED Sephiroth first try, thanks for this fam 🙏🏼
Brilliant dude! Well done for doing it, yeah Gilgamesh is always an issue but Sephiroth is a push over when you get past them. You going for the plat yeah?
Saved this video for future reference i've also seen the quakega build do some hefty damage
Yeah I tried that build on stream last night it's actually nutty. Did it with yuffie so I could 4 cast quakga lol. Gonna do a video on it soon. Not sure how viable it is on the summons.
I have tried this also. It works up until the Odin fight and Gilgamesh
Out of all the guides, this is the best one. By far. Holy crap Barrett
FairPlay you make this look so easy! Gilgamesh is so annoying getting so close each time to beating him but finding my MP runs out fairly quick.
Still sloppy but thank you lol. Il be releasing some more builds to beat these as I know this isn't always the easiest way to beat them for people. Yeah the MP is what is the killer you always need to make sure you don't use more than half every round.
Thank you so much, and I subbed because of this. Altered somethings, because I also barely use atb boost. Limit siphon on Tifa with the enhanced medal with cloud worked a lot, and I did a white cape on Barret so he doesn’t turn into a frog.
That's a good plan actually keeping the person away from being frogged with the cape is a great idea. I'm in the process of making another guide incase people want to try new methods cause these fights are so annoying.
@@Solestro thanks man, I’m on the last two with Zack and Sephiroth
@@xx_chillwill_xx nice not many more to go! Goodluck 😁
I'm so tired with the Aerith and Yuffie combo, I will try this method instead.
Edit: F*** THIS GAME!!!!!
Can't wait to try this strategy. Still in chapter 13 on my first run. I've seen that it's a good idea to keep a backup save before fighting gilgamesh so that you can practice for this challenge.
Thought I'd throw that tip out there even if I haven't gotten to it myself
That's actually a really good idea with the back up save considering he literally had about 30 freaking moves he can throw out lol. Had to learn him on the fly 😭
Nothing in this game is a challenge. Gilgamesh was a joke like every other boss in the game. Instantly pressure in one hit then spam attacks for stagger. Game was boring as fuck. Materia was boring.
Weapons sucked
Skills sucks
Open world was boring as hell
Story sucked
This game flopped period idc about fangirls glazing over FF. I played every Final Fantasy, and this is trash boredom filler. For real.
@BetterThanYouAtVideoGames you're so cool that you were able to kill every enemy and boss in one singular swoop of your sword instantly and simultaneously. Please teach us all how to be amazing like you copium
Why even comment on here my guy
@@BetterThanYouAtVideoGamesso do you do this on all game guide videos then
Unfettered Fury is the same thing as Unbridled Strength, but it buffs her magic based attacks instead. If you're using Divekick as your primary damage method, Unbridled Strength would be the more efficient buff.
You really goated for finding a different strategy than the limit break one, this strategy seems more fun imo
It is deffo more fun. I tried the limit breaks strategy it just takes way too long with the animation and there's a lot of room for failure. Still a fair bit you can fail on here but the damage output makes it very quick so you can practice.
Square nerfed a bunch of stuff like the HP plus materia, the ATB charge rate, the Ga-Magic and tons of other stuff but they didn't even bothered with Tifa's divekick, still as broken as the previous game
Exactly lol. It's funny it took me about 20 hours into the game before realising that they made the firaga etc take 2 atb and I was like "why the hell is it not letting me cast it lol"
@@Solestrolol seriously Ga need 2 ATB 😅 ive on chapter 10 never realise about this 😂
@@DarkVenimage yeah lol. I kept bringing up the menu and being like " I have plenty of MP wth is going on lol" then eventually I looked and saw the 2 red bars showing I didn't have enough atb. Too used to just being able to spam it in remake 😭
@@Solestrodidn’t cast magic one time my entire play though. It’s so underwhelming and not needed. This game flopped in my opinion. Don’t care about sales. The game is boring as fuck
To be fair, it may cost double, but the difference in damage between Ra and Ga is absurd. It costs more but it also deals A LOT more then usual. It was my first 9999 in this game, the Ra isn't even close to that kind of damage.
YESSSSSS!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!! I FINALY DID IT!!!!!!! YOU ARE A GIFT UNTO US ALL!!!!
Side note, dodging Odin tends to work better than blocking since he won't Reprisal as much if you dodge. But anyway...
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
Haha thank you, I just explained it better than some other videos. But happy it worked for you. Yeah that's true if you try and kick him he hits you back it's best to just keep wailing on him. Il have some other videos tomorrow for easy ways to do Barret, tifa and Aeriths legendary missions. Those were fun.
Don't get too relaxed though the last 2 legendary missions are worse than what you just did lol. Unfortunately
@@Solestro Thanks, you just convinced me to give up on the platinum at 87/88 after 172 hours. I just don't have the (perfect block) skill to survive Gilgamesh long enough to even get this tactic started, and I don't particularly want to spend a week fighting the first three battles over and over again just to get a chance to practice and die in less than a minute, not to mention sephiroth still waiting in the next round. Nor do I look forward to the last two legendary missions being worse. This just seems like purely sadistic game design, and I honestly couldn't be any more disappointed in Square Enix for designing it this way. These should be divided up. The summons are enough for endurance. Gilgamesh and Sephiroth should each be separate missions. All of the 10 round fights are bad. I should probably quit videogames forever. Sorry for the negativity, but I'm just done.
@@kythlyn if only they put a checkpoint in the middle that would have made it way more bearable. Was saying that today while I was streaming, literally all they need is a checkpoint you shouldnt be punished for not being perfect and having to go all the way back to the start. It's annoying, especially on the harder ones.
@@Solestro Thanks for the supportive reply. I get a lot of people that defend Square Enix unconditionally that tell me things like, "You brought this on yourself for going for the Platinum. You don't have to play it." But I feel like this punishing, sadistic game design is just... bad. Like, I know you're a content creator and you're supposed to be positive about the games you play, but, can you honestly say you enjoyed this fight? And if so, help me find the fun.
@@kythlyn
So the challenges should be easier simply for your sake? Sorry but I want stuff thats actually difficult and square nailed it on these imo. I do agree however we needed a way to practice against V sephy. But gilgamesh can be practiced on. Just chapter select, easy, and go make a save before his proto quest fight. Then practice.
If you pres triangle to use up your Concentration during stagger, you increase the multiplier to make your dive kicks do more.
It's the easiest stagger multiplier that I've found so far 😉
Oh deffo. I just didn't want to do it to keep her chi level high just incase but yeah you can boost the damage and kill them quicker by doing that 😊
@@Solestro Ideally you would want 2 full chi combos for Tifa plus a synergy ability with the other characters to get a few more seconds of stagger and bonus damage then throw limit breaks altough I don't think thay gave us enough time to do everything so maybe you have to choose what to do. It's pretty tricky to do since it requires great timing and I could get only 1 Tifa combo + syn ability + 2 limit break once or twice but I'm still in chapter 13 and I just tried the Phoenix & Kujata and Odin & Alexander fights and they are way too difficult now because I was at lvl 49 and have lvl 1 elemental materia so yeah I'll do them in post game for sure!
Still weird to me that Bahamut & Titan were a super easy first try but the other 2 fights are insanely tough and very unfair regardless of the level because of the off screen attacks and lack of i-frames when you get knocked down (which is an issue in cactuar crush too and getting hit deducts your point).
Anyway great video, I'm going to use it as a guide when I am stronger and I can't wait to lose my mind to unlock the platinum trophy!
You can pause or slow down game for decision making helps a lot here like pause figure out who is being targeted from sephiroths grab switch to character for perfect block.
That's actually a pretty good idea, like I said this was my first actual win on this, very sloppy and didn't know he would just randomly go after characters lol. But that's a good thing to do.
I used the Limit Siphon on Cloud with the accessory that maxes out his limit level... then I used Yuffie as my battery... Transference Module and Limit Support. I used her broken Enemy Skill (Plasma Discharge) + HP Absorb along with ATB Assist... My third character I used Tifa to win. Had Barret in before her, and got far. But Tifa closed it. She definitely is a beast.
Thank you bro, because of you I finally beat this! I didn't use your exact build and characters, but your guide was the best at helping me find my own way to beat it. Tifa divekick for the win!
Amazing dude 😊 it feels so good to finally beat these challenges, have you done the other ones? Or were you doing this to get the gottadamerung first. Yeah tifa is broken lol.
@@Solestro I was going in order, so it was the last Brutal challenge for me, and I was doing it for the Gotterdamerung. Now I'm onto the Legendary challenges. I'll definitely be looking at your content and others for help with these fights.
Thank you for the video. I am currently stuck in the 4th brutal challenge. I believe it’s the one with a White Terror & White Flan on round 5.
I have all tje materia here, but not all of it maxed. You mentioned parrying. I’m guessing that’s the R1? I seldom if ever use it in tjis game, bug if it’s like Sekiro/Lies of P, I should be fine.
There’s a Barret ability you mentioned- a bullet that takes off his health to increase damage. Is that from the folio? I’m at party level 9, and having done all sidequests and intel combat (with the exception of hard mode proto relic games), is there any other way to raise party level? Playing chapters on Hard Mode, perhaps?
Oh god yeah the one with the flan and the wolf. I hated that one, best thing to do for that one is use the summon when it becomes available the rest of the battles are easy in that fight.
The move is called lifeblood cannon it's unlocked through the folio at party level 8 and it's very strong. It does take 2 atb and half his health but it's a good trade off.
Party level is determined by the side quests and everything else in the game but If you need to allocate points you can reset them. If you need more folios you get 60 something from hard mode, some from the story and some from the side quests again.
I was stuck on White Terror for a while cuz of trying to use actual methods for the fights. Once I said screw it and just had everyone throwing every ATB they got at the wolf from the start the fight went hella smooth. Same thing with Odin, keep one ATB for a healing spell and just nuke Odin with everything else. He'll get a couple of reprieves off but the ATB you throw at him easily offset it.
Cleared using basically this strategy. Some of my changes in case they might help others.
I swapped cloud to enhanced expeditionary medal so he'd have lvl3 LB. Then swapped his ATB boost materia with limit siphon. Whenever Tifa had enough gauge to fill his I'd have him siphon it off. That let me use his LB fairly often in the last 3 fights. His lvl 3 lb gives a ton of stagger and basically stun locks enemies so you are free to pound on them with Tifa/barrett while he's going off. Helped me a ton both offensively and defensively to have the enemy basically just sitting there for 5-10 seconds. If you notice they'll be staggered after the LB you can use that time to just build 2 atb bars with barrett and tifa.
The second change was to have cloud equipped with barrier + magnify and more empowerment off in place of cleanse. That helped me a ton during sephiroth since if you manage to reach him with decent MP you can manawall his octaslash and survive it. I would just single cast bravery on tifa during burst windows.
The last thing was a smaller change I removed barretts Opening ATB bonus since he starts fights with 2 atbs thanks to accessory+first strike. I forgot what i used instead.
That's actually a good build too. Happy you finally beat it dude. Guessing onto the even harder ones now? You going for the plat I take it?
@@Solestro yup doing my hard mode clear in between the brutal and legendary vr missions since I need to leveling a warding and a quick cast materia anyway to make some of those easier.
Should do a video of that build @Grukthar . More methods the better
@@ritabeverige4391 exactly the more builds we see the more we can understand the game and blast through these 😁
@@ritabeverige4391 Sadly I forgot to save the replay after clearing but, it plays almost the exact same as the method in this video.
Some slight changes to strategy,
Since it's single target bravery i would only use it right before stagger windows on tifa only.
If you ever see that tifa+cloud have a full limit gauge between them have cloud siphon it. You should only ever cloud LB3 with that build since barrett has the materia and cloud takes tifa's gauge. Whenever you use an lb3 or a synergy ability switch to one of the other characters to build gauge since the bosses typically get stunned during those moves.
Abuse the heck out of cloud + tifas synergy ability that gives you MP0. During MP0 use magnified curaga + magnified manawall to keep your team really safe.
Hello there! Have a quick question : where u got your 3rd magnify materia? Ik cait sith brings one if he join the party, one via side quest in cosmo and the 3rd or 1st u should finde in chapter 1... now my problem is I finished all 3 options, only have the buggy party animal quest left... and cant find the one who should be in nibelheim tutorial. Heard that the one u find in prologue u lose after it. So what can I do to get the 3rd magnify? Dont have them and dont find them >.
The one in chapter 1 is temporary the 3rd is from a brutal VR mission :) so you'll be able to get it from there.
"Elemental Materia" is the key of this!!!! 👌🏻
Elemental materia is amazing. Love being able to just heal off every attack
Hey man, just wanted to say thank you, I got my platinum not long ago, I have beaten a good amount of the Legendary Bouts thanks to you, but this was the video that helped me out the most. The only challenge I struggled sooo much with and no other guides helped me like yours did. Well detailed and explained with pretty safe approach for what's it worth. So instead of spamming all of your videos with comments I'm leaving one here, this is hands down the best guide for RotOW. Some tweaks can be done to materia and stuff, but the 2 most important things are Tifa divekicking and parrying a lot. Seriously I am not exaggerating by saying that you have to parry a lot, it is absolute neccessity to beat Gilgamesh and VR Sephiroth. so from a mechanic I wasnt using at all it became a part of my playstyle and also very important for all the future Legendary Bouts that were to come. So thank you Solestro, you are the real MVP
Aww thank you that means a lot I'm so happy you got your platinum! I'm so happy my guides have been so helpful I didn't expect them to be as helpful to people as they have been. I always feel like I ramble when I talk but im just glad I could be of help! 😁💙
I’m definitely gonna try this, all I need to do that’s left in the game are the hard mode vr missions and hard mode for story.
Yeah the vr missions can really get in the bin on this game. I liked them in remake but they just put way too many stupidly difficult ones in this. The ones after these are even harder even though you have the gotterdamerung, which makes no sense lol. It's cause you can only use 1 character in each
@@Solestroit’s kind of keeping me from doing them
I think one way to avoid shadowy chains would be to teleport the character that's about to be attacked, ala block commands
Potentially yeah it would be interesting to know if that worked. I know Aerith could probably teleport to her ward but using her here would be suicide lol
Does ATB assist only trigger if you use the same ability twice or any two abilities ? Also I wonder if you can use both limit siphon and limit support and siphon someone’s max limit to give LB to both. Would probably be redundant but never actually tried
Same ability, so if you do something like tifa dive kick constantly thats the same skill so they will get atb
Also nah that only really works with aerith siphoning it from others and giving it back with her level 3 lol
I combed through like 2/3 of the comments before posting because I didn't see any mention of it, but why did you give Cloud the Rune Blade (Magical Weapon)? Does his improved magical attack (not mp) affect his buffed spells in some way or help nullify the attacks with the armor-materia slot? I hope this question makes sense lol this game so complicated in all the worst ways.
Haha no that makes perfect sense. Tbh I didn't really think about the other characters it was mostly focused on tifa. Im gonna be making a much easier method for this soon so keep an eye out for that. But if you utilise all characters in this method with tifa it goes a lot faster lol.
I got this to work but I switched Tifa to Jarngreiper because I think the weapon skills are a bit better for this build and I switched Cloud to Slipstream Saber, the skill to recover MP when he receives big damage is super beneficial for making it to late game.
After that, it all comes down to skill, knowing when to go in and when to be patient.
Ooo that's interesting didn't know that about the slipstream saber il have to have a look into it. Happy you got it done though! Well done 😁
Gilgamesh can be practiced by having a save file right before you defeat him the first time. You can probably chapter select to chapter 13 on hard mode to get a more realistic practice session. I assume that he has the same move set, or at least he mostly does, compared to the VR mission one.
EDIT: Looks like I missed the other comment that mentioned this when I skimmed them before posting.
Yeah I never even thought of that I was having too much fun while playing the game to think about keeping a save before Gilgamesh lol. But yeah it's a very good strategy because imo he's not of if not the hardest in this mission.
Chapter select doesn't let you redo any of the Protorelic events, unfortunately.
@@MalachiLper You can restart the chapter with no previous data, but I'm not sure if doing this with Chapter 13 would just wipe all progress. And no way am I trying it just to find out haha.
@@OverlordShanbo It erases QUEST progress, but not Protorelic progress. I restarted all quest progress so I could redo all sidequests on Hard mode (Since any with bosses give you manuscripts) and I couldn't redo anything related to the Protorelics.
@@MalachiLper Ahh I see, thanks. So for the Genji Gear, can I just start Chapter 12 on Hard and re-fight the intel enemies? Or do I have to redo the Intel to get what I need from them? Also is getting those manuscripts necessary for the platinum? I'm still trying to get a read on just exactly what I need to do.
I haven’t done this but don’t you need to debuff Odin as well as dodging/parrying? He always used to use zansetsukan unless I did that
Zantetsuken's "counter" goes up as he lands hits and down as you dodge and hit him with ATB. Debuffing him doesn't inherently do anything to the counter, but the damage changes may make it sway more or less.
What they say yeah, if he keeps landing hits on you you are gonna get zantetsukened. That's what builds it for him, you have to either parry or dodge out the way and keep hitting him which is easy with tifa. Hit him enough he buffs/debuffs himself and gets pressured.
1 question a magnify-barrier could work for gilga and sephirot to mitigate some of the damage?
It probably could yeah but magnify cuts the time down a lot on buffs so it wouldn't last super long.
Ok thanks I'm not that good with parries thst is whu I'm looking for ways to survive more
Does this method work on Genji questline? Opening rotation on Kujata and Pheonix doesn't even scratch Kujata HP like in video. Do they have more HP in Protorelic questline? :(
My biggest problem when going with this strategy is that alexander always hits everyone with strong attacks, knocking out barret fast even with everything here, and I can never parry odin's attacks because of alexander's wave attacks. What can be done about that?
I already beat this but messing around other builds - had a specific question is octaslash physical damage or magic damage? I don’t want to waste extra mp if I don’t have to thanks o/
I believe it counts as physical damage but I believe limits have a different property and do a lot of damage regardless. They don't go through all defense I believe but I think they ignore a bit of it.
Man that fight with V Sephiroth was awsome to watch
Haha thanks dude. I'm waaaay better at it now lol. Done it for loads of other people and my parry skills against sephiroth are even crazier. Thank you though! ☺️
i saw the 4min spdrun of the guy doing the dive kick with courage buff, genji and dark arts
Have have equip Elemental Materia with Fire Materia on the right slots with all the party memebers and Phoenix always kills me with his Flame of Rebirth. Can somebody explain me please?
Do you have it on your armour? Elemental and fire linked on your armour absorbs all the damage from phoenix.
@@Solestro Oh jeah you right it worked! Thank you!
@@Alice_Rosfieldno probs 😊
How do you activate the extra damage on Tifa at the beginning of the fight? thx
She has a skill in her folio where she has a 50% chance to activate it at the beginning of a fight so its just chance but it does help 😁
I want to try your build with a twist, everything identical but with Aerith instead of Barret, Limit Siphon and expeditionary on Aerith, the ATB to Limit thingy on Tifa, advanced expeditionary on Cloud. A single (properly timed) Planet's Protection would mean Odin will never Limit, neither Gilgamesh nor Sephiroth can hit you for the most part, and you are free to Divekick and recycle for Finishing Touch over and over. In my mind it works 😆
EDIT: Oh, and DeBrave + DeProtect to instantly pressure Odin at the start.
That's a good tweak I may have to try it myself. Making another couple builds on this incase people are still struggling cause imo it's probably one of the hardest ones.
@@Solestro I'm struggling more then my ego would like to admit. I can't, for the life of me, parry with the slightest consistency, most of the times I lose at Odin which is embarassing.
If I have to cheese it, so be it, the whole challenge is a cheese 😆
I found a way to kill the phoenix before using rebirth flame. In short its just using a synergy ability on it and using Tifa to powerhouse it while it's stun-locked. The fights still easy without it but it definitely saves time.
Is this build working for the other Brutal Challenges too? Im struggeling at Challenge 4 and try the Aerith Limit Build but cant past Fight 9 because shes dying so quick
It seems to yeah. I can do a video showcasing it if you want. I'm in the middle of doing the legendary challenges but always up for making more videos.
Awesome, i give it tomorrow a try and it looks that you are my platinum safer xD more videos like that would be great. It seems that many people struggeling in the first brutal challenges like me and the most videos where i found was from people with builds with Götterdämmerung or Genshi Gloves. And by the way, great video with great explaining how it all works.
@@derGoldige awww thank you that means a lot. I feel I ramble sometimes when I do these videos but as long as you get the idea lol. But yeah il be releasing probably the full set of the challenges. Best tip I can give so far is to do them in order. I just got the gotterdamerung from this fight and it helps loads in the Legendary fights.
is this build viable for hard mode
@@solidsn0ke844 it is yeah but hard mode is a pain in the ass, you constantly switch characters during the story so you are constantly swapping materia if you want a specific build. I can't count how many times I've hard to pause and swap everything around.
I'm deleting all my other negative comments just to say THANK YOU! Finally managed to do it with your method, with a few materia tweaks.
Gilgamesh was pure pain, whereas I beat Seph on my second attempt.
Cheers mate!
Awww dude so happy for you. Yeah Gilgamesh is by far one of the hardest ones to fight, Sephiroth is just a nice chill end to the fight 😂 you going for the plat? If so you've got harder challenges to do.
That Gilgamesh fight is a bit sweaty. But looking forward to trying this
Oh 100% the Gilgamesh fight is very sweaty lol. It's fun though
I've tried this strategy several times now, and i have to ask, How do you get the enemies to attack your other players. As soon as i switch to tifa i start getting attacked by both leaving NO time for me to do the dive kick methods. during several of your battles the other characters seem to be able to hold the aggro of the other enemy long enough to get the process started. but it doesn't seem to be working the same for me.
This, it's insane at times specially when it comes to gilgamesh, the window gap for dodging it's so slim jesus
Question. Are you holding down square when attacking with Tifa to get all that ATB? She just keeps doing her uppercut for me
A mixture so if you hold it she will usually do the uppercut but if you keep mashing it she will do a big slam into the enemy and you get loads of atb just practice it a bit before doing this. Takes a while to get used to. Also take advantage of dodge to cancel the animations.
@@Solestro so am I essentially just mashing square for a bit and then holding square down after that? Or is just mashing square until she does the slam?
@@ryandelapine4199 I usually just mash it. Was using it in hard mode story today as well and it does seem to be mashing as soon as she does the palm slam that will give you a huge boost of atb then you know to do a move or cancel and do it again.
does this strat work for the original battles you have to do on gilgamesh island?
Yup it does indeed. Those guys are pushovers on Gilgamesh island though unless you are doing hard mode. just switch it to easy if you want a simple time.with them
Chakra on barret is really nice too heals him 50% with his passives i think
yea. so many suggestions about prayer and I'm like, "why?" lol
So i swapped time and empowerment. Cloud has the first time strike on, and the atb boost, and as someone who forgets to use it also, this made sure i didn't cuz first thing i do each fight is use that thing, cast hast, then switch to barrett use the lifesaver. Then tifa, and if she's almost got 2 atbs then i attack until i have both, use a dive kick, then atb boost, and use back to back divekicks for a total of 3, that should give barrett what he needs to have atb for bravery, and remember everyone, Overcharge usually fills up an atb, basically unless youre slowed it will. So i can get up faith for cloud after casting bravery for tifa. That also allows me to take off barrets magnify and put a healing on him...im just uncomfortable only having 1 character out there with the ability to heal. I also realized, i could just use sonicboom with tifa, and that will buff her with bravery and haste and i could take that off entirely. Probably best to do one or the other of those changes... assuming you have the enemy skill on tifa per this guide, id say just use atb boost to give her two, then use sonicboom to buff her, get your rise and fall up and then divekick your ass off lol. Great video though, im sure lots of people did their own little tweaks for their own comfort but credit to you for a great base strategy thanks.
do you think plasma discharge with tifa could be good once you have everything else set up?
Potentially yeah gives you extra damage. Extra damage is always good. I use that for most of my builds but didn't use it here.
Definitely worth it
If only for the extra stats
I improved the material equipment, removing the assist subjects and adding chakra to everyone and rebirth to everyone since barret dies very quickly but with the chakra material everything is healed
Nice that's a good tweak did you manage to get it done 😁
I FINALLY BEAT Virtual Sephiroth! I used Cloud, Barrett, & Tifa. All I needed to do was have Barrett cast Barrier-All twice & I was able survive Virtual Sephiroth’s Octaslash each time. It was awesome.
My final attack was EPIC!!!
Cloud’s Limit Break Ascension occurred right after Sephiroth’s Limit Break cutscene for Octaslash. The game let Cloud go first & & I won! 😂
I never parried Sephiroth’s Shadowy Chains once.
1. Barrett cast Barrier-All 2x.
2. Tifa’s armor: Cetran Armlet
3. Tifa: Tranference Module
4. Cloud: Limit Booster
5. Cloud cast Regan-all at the beginning of each battle.
6. Tifa cast Haste-all at the beginning of each battle.
It only took me 30hrs 😂 I couldn’t beat Sephiroth’s Shadow Chains & I kept having stupid deaths to Alexander, Odin, & Gilgamesh.
I dont understand why I copied everything down to the letter. Equipment, materia everything and my dive does no where near the damage yours does?
Hey man, how do you have 3 magnify materia? All the guides Ive searched for say you can only get 2? the 1st on in Chapter 1 you cannot keep, so how? Or am I getting it wrong that youre using magnify on Cure, Bravery and Haste?
In one of chadley’s challenges in the simulator, it gives you the third magnify materia
@@Cra1gDav1d ah thanks mate, Im actually about to challenge the brutal challenges so need to prepare
Yeah like they say they are all from the simulator missions all the 3 elemental materia. Sorry never had so many comments on my videos lol.
Gilgamesh is my roadblock here. Timing the defends and parries are really difficult.
You've just gotta commit, all the times I did It I was afraid to stand there and block. As long as it's not the exclamation mark moves you can stagger him pretty easy by learning the timing. Trust me I was the same, least with this method it doesn't take long to get to him. When I did the limit breaks method it took me ages to get to him and I was just getting annoyed.
@Solestro I've been doing a blend of Tifa dive kick buffs/debuffs and the limit method. It's been working pretty good. I can get to Gilgamesh in about 13 minutes.
@@mariahtheriault9221 that's not too bad. If you can merge both techniques that's pretty good too cause the limit method is good, I just felt it was too slow for me. I like to be quick lol.
How are you getting such good timing on guarding Odin? On the charging attack I don't even know when the hit is supposed to even register,
You should see me now I'm even better at it lol.
@@Solestro Are you thinking of making another video? I was struggling to understand the steps at the start, lol, but from what I gathered it's basically kick their ass with Divekick and use buffs with the other characters. I'm not just not very practiced with the perfect guard on their moveset
@@Jdeadevil I potentially might make another more concise video since I've done this a lot quicker and easier now. See if it can help some people
You make Gilgamesh look ridiculously easy.
I make him look easier now, since I've done it loads of times for other people lol.
@@Solestrocan u do it for me please 🥺🙏
@@theoc511there's a link on one of my newest videos to my patreon/discord you purchase it on the patreon then message me on discordn and il get it done.
10/10 awesome run
Thanks dude. Very sloppy in parts but it was fun ☺️
You whacked Gilga in less than a couple minutes, it's highly impressive and with a little optimization you could easily do this in sub 10 minutes. I look forward to ice-skating around with Tifa =]
@@heiral7773 it felt longer tbh he's the scariest fight in this lol. The other fights are pretty fun il be releasing those tomorrow. Haha yeah tifa is so good. Glad she is still broken
how do you have 3 magnify materia? I thought the one from chapter 1 you lose after the chapter ends
You do you get another piece later from the VR missions.
@@Solestro aah i see i imagine its from one of the hard vr missions
@@michelleonart yeah but it's not a super hard one it's called brutal challenge Hellions intonement which is a bunch of tonberries but you just put on the safety bit or another item that stops insta death and its easy 😁
This is clutch! How’d you get your health back when he hit you with the ‘Sloppy sword attack?’ It said 2222222
How are you in 1v1 vs titan all the time and bahamut not interrupting?
As soon as you stagger one it staggers the other because it breaks their protective shield. So you want to focus titan down first and then you have free reign over bahamut.
Would you use this similar set up for the other brutal sims?
You could do yeah. Or you could use the broken magic build from my Aerith video. Which would allow you to just spam crazy amounts of magic.
@@Solestro I’ll check those out thanks mate 😎
@@thegoat8089 no probs dude goodluck with it 😁
Interesting. I notice from the Genji gear that you did this after hard mode.
What I did for the Genji gear was just switch to chapter 13 on hard mode to get the gear then switch back to my normal mode playthrough. I did everything on normal before doing hard mode chapters. As you only need to kill the big monster bosses on hard, malboro, Quetzalcoatl etc
can you make a list of all of the materia each character has?
Shows you at the end of the video?
When i finish a round i only get 50% HP and 30% MP, someone know why? I want 50% HP and 50% MP
They changed it in the recent update.
I think you can stop Odin from doing his big attack is to debuff him. he wont do it while debuffed from poison etc
Yeah I heard that, debrave, defaith and poison pressure him an insane amount, realised that recently.
Good stuff.
Thanks!
I'm still struggling against Sephiroth, I'm not good at the parry at all and it takes so long to even get to him to practice. I really hate that Shadowy chains moves. I need a method that doesn't need to parry so much..
I think you can use your counter attack from the prime more etc. Don't quote me on that though. But that also doesn't help the other 2 characters.
I can get gilgamesh about half way. But i run out of magic and can't build atb quicj enough . I took off the atb boosts because i need assess materia, as well as barrier and revive on tifa.
You don't need assess materia just remember what they do. That saves you one slot you can use for something more beneficial. Also if you are running out of MP you can pair MP absorb materia with the spell you are using to get some back
@@Solestro no I need assess for sephiroth for the playlog lol.
Ahhhh lol. That makes more sense I need to do that too 😅@@LivedLegna
How to parry
Does this method work after a normal mode or do you have to complete hard mode first?
Nope I did all the VR missions before starting hard mode. If you want more manuscripts to unlock everything though best to do hard mode.
@@Solestro thank God, I want to get the gottenlongword accessory before starting hard mode, I heard this one is hard as balls so I wanna follow a guide for it, thanks man
Yeah when you have the gotterdamerung hard mode is super easy lol. @@aminerz979
Comming back to it wouldn't make Red instead of Cloud make more sense here if you don't really use them. I mean he is tankier (does less magic dmg than Cloud) but should get insanely fast his Vengeance bar full since you block so much.
And you can use that either for dmg or to heal or buff a full haste on everyone.
And now that I'm think of it shouldn't Sentinel Stance work against Sephiroth's Shadowy Chains?
Which in turn would make Sephiroth easier as well?
Red is probably the better choice thanks to Sentinel Stance if you're not that good at blocking.
On the other hand if your a god at blocking using Yuffie with all her perfect block buffs would make the whole fight faster as well. But with yuffie and tifa you risk that that they just both die constantly.
The first time I got to Gilgamesh, I was somehow able to beat him first try. And then Sephiroth spams me to death.
Brilliant.
Yeah it's one of the most annoying things about getting to the end. Try the brumal form method video I've done. Gets you there a lot faster so you can practice plus most of the time if you are quick you can just kill Sephiroth before he can get going.
@@Solestro I tried Brumal Form Method, can't get passed Odin and Alexander.
This challenge sucks. 😭
@@Solestro I FINALLY BEAT THIS CHALLENGE!! I used Cloud, Tifa and Barret. And aside from a few close calls, it went pretty well! Thank you for not just this guide, but all your other guides! They've been very helpful!
How did your just WHOLE team eat the rebirth flame without taking ANY damage?
Elemental - fire on armour works wonders lol. That's why I put it on 😁.
really really appreciate
No probs 😁
How do you get three elemental materia ?
They are all from the VR combat simulator stages.
How are u blocking their attacks so precisely?
Practise and presumably the purple materia for perfect blocking
What they said yeah. The purple materia gives you a much larger window and just a bit of practice. You can still see how sloppy I am at parts though. But if you can parry a fair bit makes it a million times easier.
I’ll be putting the Assess Materia Earrings on for Cloud just so I can Assess Virtual Sephiroth.
UPDATE: I beat the challenge and assessed Virtual Sephiroth at the same time.
Nice well done! Onto the harder ones 😅
@@Solestro I already did the Legendary Bouts before this.
@@brandondonato7648 including the ones with Zack and sephiroth?
@@Solestro Yes, I just got the Platinum yesterday, and Rulers of the Outer Worlds was the last thing I did for it.
@@brandondonato7648awww nice congratz! I'm surprised you struggled with that one if you did Zack and sephiroth they aren't easy themselves. I got the plat myself last night on stream such an amazing game. Time to do the bits I missed like other folios etc and find some busted builds 😂
How you get a 3rd elemental and magnify? :o
You basically get the 3rd ones from the combat simulator. Once you've got all the intel etc and then some are from the brutal missions.
Well I used optinoobs strat and now I can make it to sephiroth and he kills me. So he does shadow chains and then I recover and he does it again like right after. It's weird why he does that so so fast a second time
Would be able to utilize this method on my first playthrough?
First playthrough in general or on hard mode? A lot of the materia is later on in the game
@@Solestro in general, trying to complete everything on my first go around.
Hoe do you get the gotterdamerung before this fight? It's the prize for this fight.
Maybe Im just bad at this but I cant get Barrett to stay alive long at all. Even in Round 1 hes taking so mich damage hes at 1hp very quickly. Im trying to block and parry, not very well, and cloud cant heal him fast enough. Ive not been able to get past Odin/Alexander 😕
If you are stuck at Odin/Alexander it shows you need to do more parrying or dodging. Is he managing to Zantetsuken you or is Alexander killing you? Parrying is pretty much required for these fights, it is frustrating but you will get the hang of it. Do you have the materia on that makes it easier?
@@Solestro Oh yeah I definitely need to get the hang of parrying. I still try and play like remake and it doesnt work. I am using the purple materia Im just too used to trying to dodge 😅.
Its not Zantetsuken, just racking up damage, then as soon as Barrett goes down Im on the back foot and cant recover.
Still, I cant be the only one that feels these fights are way overtuned?
@@JimmyDoesGames oh no they are 100% overtuned, the ones later on are even worse, you beat them up for about 5-8 mins each and there's 10 in a row... I hope they do it better for part 3. But yeah they defo built this around the parry mechanic mitigating all the damage.
@@JimmyDoesGames also in regards to Barret going down too fast what's causing you to take so much damage? Odin should be away after about 30 seconds and you should only be dealing with Alexander whos damage can be avoided.
@@Solestro yeah Ive seen the videos, looks like this Plat might be out of my grasp 😅.
With regards to Barrett, Im not 100% sure but I can only assume because Im taking too much damage as Tifa and his lifesaver is taking it all. Ive tried tinkering with barrier magic as well but it makes setting up take longer.
i don't understand why your tifa is intant heal on every hit ?
It's cause of lifesaver on Barrett. He absorbs all the damage and heals you instantly
The Sephiroth fight is just obnoxious. Who actually thought it would be fun to fight an enemy with 100k health that non-stop spams a move that permanently disables one of your characters, then deals 6k undodgeable damage to them?
I cannot do the intoment one
Does the jump command avoid Odins 1 shot? Jump , survive amd then ress the ppl who dies?:p
Never tried it. You want to be the guinea pig lol. I think the jump command is too fast no?
imma try that lol
@@Manudyne xD
@@Solestro I tried the karmic cowl but it does not work against zantetsuken, I guess only for normal insta death moves
Yeah i think thats why they gave it damahe so people cant do that. It just hits for max health lol. Tricky odin. @@Manudyne
How did you get to party level 10 ? I did all the side quests and everything and still says level 9
did you do all the hard versions of the protorelic mini games?
@@wildbill9681 oh no, you have to also do that?
yes@@alejobradley
@@alejobradleyyeah, unfortunately
Yup like the others said gotta do hard modes too. You need to do them for Johnnys trophy too so just get them done lol.
Actually, atb assist works as long as you use two command in a row, doesn't need to be the same command. I personnally like the overpower twirl that can be chained with dive kick, or if the timing is starpower followed by divekick to boost dive kick. But it doesnt need to be two of the same command to trigger atb assist
Starshower*
How does Tifa regain HP from Gilgamesh's attacks?
It's Barrett's lifesaver ability. It heals the person and he takes the damage. You'll notice he takes a lot of damage lol
@@Solestro I'm 300+ hours in and I didn't know that about lifesaver 😐 thanks for the quick response! This should help me a lot now. I'm going to finish chapter 13 and 14 on hard mode to complete my folio tree because I found Gilgamesh nearly impossible.
No probs dude. There's loads to the game so Im not surprised lol. If you are still struggling at a certain point I offer the completion of rulers as a purchase on my patreon. I've done it for like 250 people now. Well mostly the bonds of friendship/to be a hero but it's there if you need it. @@Dank7Rebirth
it’s anoying having to go so many rounds to get to final round , that’s biggest issue I have with the game , hate redoing multiple fights just to try the one i’m stuck on
Yeah I'm the same dude, it gets worse after this one. The last couple you need to do are 10 rounds which takes about 45 mins to 1 hour each... And if you die you are going right back. I hate it.
I really cannot block Gilgamesh. Any help? I've been trying loads of different ways for about 10+ hours and still no luck :(
I can defeat Alexander/Odin and Gilgamesh without blocking consistently.
I just spamming O until i got an opening to attack. And avoid to run near your other party member.
@@librashooter Managed him finally. Died at sephiroth :(
Awww nooo dude. Sephiroth is usually the chill out fight just due to how you can push him back so easily by parrying. Hope you manage to do it. Let me know.
@@Solestro Got it finally! Thank you bro
@@sammassey1887 NICE! Huge congratz dude, I know how frustrating it can be going back to the start constantly. What you onto next?
There is an option on the menu that is remember. Is so much faster.
Having the auto weapon materia on characters, would that help too?
Can you combine unbridled strength and unfeather fury?
In this game dive kick does more damage than true strike?
Yeah you can enable that to make it easier if you don't like the shortcuts like me lol.
You could technically replace a bit of materia for the auto weapon ability if you want like I said there's a bit of room to swap some.
Yup so if you use unbridled strength and then unfettered fury you will be at max chi level with unfettered fury skill active, but if you reverse that order you will be in the unbridled strength chi level with that skill on the triangle button. I believe dive kick is way more powerful I think I tried both out.
@@Solestro oohhh you dont like the shortcuts lol i was telling myself, so slow 😂 😂 I
I was wondering
Here is the real question.. How do you get good a parrying!?
thanks this build worked for me. still have to be fairly competent at the boss fights so i wouldnt call it easy. hard part being if any one of these guys die the party falls apart pretty fast
Yeah it's as easy as you can make it with your team really. It defo isn't a free win like some of the matches but glad it helped 😁
Why on Earth cant we have Tifas OG outfit?
What do you mean?